b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 1
see
我就打7-10-15这种距离,所以我的好的标准就是
1。底火敲了就响,AE,WWB,RWS都有过底火一个坑,其他完好的。SB,UMC,AG,MT没
出过问题。
2。不会FTF,FTE。UMC,我就不说了。AE和WWB在1911新的时候有,不一定能算。
3。干净,AE,WWB,AG,MT打完手上都有黑渣子。弹壳干净,AG差些。
4。便宜,9mm,10块一下,45,15一下。
除了AG只打了300多以外,其他至少是一千。 |
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Z********g 发帖数: 434 | 2 Winchester White Box vs Remington UMC (9mm 115gr FMJ)
(张三) I've found the "generic" practice ammunition by the "Big 3" Federal,
Remington and Winchester to be pretty decent stuff across the board in the
calibers that I shoot (primarily 9x19, .45ACP and 7.62x39) most frequently.
(李四)I find WWB to be cleaner than UMC but other than that I've had no
problems with either.
(王五) Winchester WHITE BOX is a little more punchy then UMC。
(赵六) I have always found the Winchester to be a bit more accurate mys... 阅读全帖 |
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k**********i 发帖数: 8706 | 3 有答案了,果然是最近的这批WWB都是美国造(以前是捷克S&B造),比以前明显脏了
Quote:
ok...dirty talk part 2 found some WCC 00 and WCC 04 9mm...sorry don't know
lot numbers (loose in ammo can) and a recent box WWB "USA Made" the new crap
is dirty no doubt about it, fired in Beretta 92, Taurus older model semi,
the old WCC 00/04 was cleaner less fouling, shot better (tighter group), FTF
/ FTE none, newer crap "Made in USA", dirty, a few FTF / FTE groups a
little wider. shot from a borrowed Ransom Rest.. sorry wish I had a chrono..
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b********y 发帖数: 895 | 4 我在MD这边的walmart一直没看到federal,都是WWB,我的WWB是前一阵买的,感觉比
federal干净 |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 5 我试过几种大路货,AE,WWB,REM后来就settle在这个上面了。没有感觉特别的脏。最
脏的是WWB是不是外包了。 |
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s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 6
贵了点。我们这里WWB $23,不过federal 50 rd $10.47
另一个店federal一样钱,不过WWB就19.97. |
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w****f 发帖数: 1420 | 7 cz75b stainless steel 昨天到的,今天直奔室内靶场
圆形靶:10米。慢速,双手。WWB 115gr 9mm
人形靶:10米。双手快速连射,打头部和胸部,WWB 和 Federal champian
觉得cz真好,虽然没有拥有别的枪,但是还是第一感觉极其良好。一共打了100发,没
卡。 |
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g*****h 发帖数: 642 | 8 赶紧买吧,我这里的 WWB 已经是$23.97/100rd了,前不久还是$21.97/100rd,我都打
算用reload戳纸了。。。 $178/1000rd。Walmart WWB算上税都快$260/1000rd了。。。 |
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e*i 发帖数: 10288 | 9 Forward this post to your email--if you are using telnet
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l***n 发帖数: 542 | 10 Sorry, I was wrong about something. The reason to add another sensor is to
add a pivot for checking who is closer to the black-white edge. And another
condition is that the angle between sensor 2 and sensor 3 should also be
less than 180 degree in clockwise. For instance, the sensor 1, 2 3 can
evenly distribute on the circle with 120 degree between each pair. So the
sequence wwb->wbw (or bww) can tell the rotation direction. |
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D******r 发帖数: 491 | 13 completely newbie, has been trying several models.
Finanlly got a chance to try my new CZ75 sp01 tactical this afternoon.
It's an amazing gun at the price, very easy to shoot with minimal recoil,
the grip fits my hand just right, put about 150 round WWB 9mm through it,
not a single malfunction.
I was using standard 25 slow fire pistol target at 10 yards, each time my
first shot was right on( DA shot, seems all the DA dry fire really paid off)
red center, but then I start to forget about all the |
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w***z 发帖数: 398 | 14 I saw 100rd WWB for 19.99, and some 50rd Monach for 10.xx...
there |
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O**e 发帖数: 246 | 15 Hi-point 995 9mm carbine. 10 shot mag loaded with WWB. Looking forward to
weekend plinking fun. |
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 16 Federal has Military contract...they usually make cleaner ammo
anyhow, i still like WWB |
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s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 17 virginia的几个walmart都有。 federal 一直比WWB便宜。 |
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o*******p 发帖数: 722 | 18 Well, cheap 9mm JHP rounds are all sold out at Walmart. But they have
Federal 9mm and WWB 9mm FMJ target rounds readily available in large
quantity all the time. For JHP, all my Walmart stores only have Winchester
PDX1 Bonded 124gr 9mm for $19 per 20 rounds. If you research on youtube, you
will find that these rounds are JUNK.
BTW, my local gun shop also has G19 3rd gen for $499, and G17 gen4 for $529.
Not bad. |
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o*******p 发帖数: 722 | 19 那就不如买100-round box WWB了。 |
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 20 WWB, $0.36/round for me, $0.40/round for retail |
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 22 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2357943
Wolf Ammo 9X19 9 MM, Full Metal Jacket Bi Metal, 115 GR, 1150 fps, 50 Rd/bx
$8.48
CCI Blazer Handgun Centerfire Ammunition 3578, 9 mm, Full Metal Jacket, 124
GR, 1090 fps, 50 Rd/bx
$9.16
Tulammo Pistol Ammunition , 9mm, Full Metal Jacket, 115 GR, 50 Rd/bx
$10.20
Winchester USA Centerfire Pistol Ammunition USA9MMVP, 9 MM, Full Metal
Jacket, 115 GR, 1190 fps, 100 Rd/bX (SAME AS WWB at WALMART) (NOT HOLLOW
POINTS)
$20.61
http://bargainamm... 阅读全帖 |
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 23 WWB is getting realli realli dirty recently... |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 25 又及:
45的Magtech脏的一塌糊涂,同是1911,80发Magtech的45,比300发的9mm WWB黑很多。
估计毛蛋也就这个水平。该试试J老板推荐的了。 |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 26 我用了几百发124的,觉得不错。反正比WWB和UMC好的多。 |
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c*****t 发帖数: 490 | 27 你的两只枪都broke in了?umc 9mm要比wwb 9mm短几个毫米的样子,和海军一起打靶发
现的。两个差不多一样脏 |
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W********t 发帖数: 8514 | 28 说起来,你可能都不信。我03年买WWB的时候,50rds才7块钱。。。 |
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a*******d 发帖数: 4846 | 29 昨晚我google了半天加州枪展的评价,基本觉得今天不用去了。今天跑
了两个walmart,终于买到了WWB 9MM 1****[email protected], 比
Federal S&B 9MM便宜了不少。 |
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S***Z 发帖数: 1029 | 30 上次的S&B 9mm我都快打完了,确实比WWB干净多了。这deal还有吗? |
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y*****n 发帖数: 11251 | 31 这个星期好像wwb 9mm 24.96了,有两个$5 的gmtn mir。这个rebate保险么? |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 32
Kimber不喜欢UMC,总共就买了六盒UMC,卡壳十几发,我就不说了。229更是卡到整个
slide都卡死,好在把枪把的握片去掉后,用螺丝刀把Sear复的位。UMC我是白给都不敢
用了。关键是两把都是打了七八百WWB或AE以后出的问题。现在半年多,小两千了,都
没事。 |
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W********t 发帖数: 8514 | 33 我个人的体会是劲儿足,脏的程度和WWB差不多。 |
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 36 网上民意调查结果显示Remington UMC出现feed问题比例最多。如果你的枪不挑子弹就
无所谓。
其它铜壳弹Winchester White Box(WWB),RWS,Federal Champion,CCI Blazer Brass
等都差不多质量,火药脏些。最后两种子弹便宜一点是因为弹壳加工工艺不同,好像是
类似冲压成型的,表面不如其它子弹弹壳光亮,但不影响供弹顺畅和弹壳强度(至少对
于常见手枪弹是这样)。
Tula这类钢壳弹没有试过,价格优势太小,我觉得不值得去试,除非实在是荷包紧又要
有练习量。
我只买最便宜的铜壳弹,现在Walmart的9毫米应该是百发装Federal Champion。 |
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g*****h 发帖数: 642 | 37 我的子弹明天才到,手头上的wwb只剩100发了...
btw,你咋总能weekday蹿出来,我现在想跑路,vacation都用的差不多了... |
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l***1 发帖数: 1500 | 38 我觉得他是枪少才去的频,我个人经验是:人有一把枪,每天都去靶场,人有7把枪,
一个星期去一次,人有30把枪,一个月去一次。拥枪数与去靶场数成反比。呵呵!
我的子弹明天才到,手头上的wwb只剩100发了...btw,你咋总能weekday蹿出来,我现
在想跑路,vacation都用的差不多了...
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H******S 发帖数: 6011 | 39 F. C. U. K!!! WWB did rise to $23.97 in walmart! |
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T********e 发帖数: 533 | 41 是滴,不到一年前Walmart的9mm WWB是$19.97的,当时.45ACP就是$31.97。现在9mm从$
19.97到$21.97,再到$23.97,.45ACP还是没变。
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 42 歧不歧视不说,很多人都有对WWB(walking while black)的偏见和提防。 |
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H****y 发帖数: 221 | 43 对WWB提防 is common sense in this country |
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 44 对行为诡异的人提放是common sense,对WWB提防最起码也是偏见。 |
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H****y 发帖数: 221 | 45 WWB=行为诡异, this is common sense |
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d*****h 发帖数: 1266 | 46 子弹用的是卧玛wwb 165g的,据说是原厂弹里比较软的。家里还有180g的比赛reload,
靶场不让打。 |
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H******S 发帖数: 6011 | 48 一直用WWB,可能是运气好吧,没有遇到这情况。今天才又打了两百发。 |
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T********e 发帖数: 533 | 49 打过几千的WWB 9mm/.45ACP,一般好像都没什么问题,碰到过一发9mm跟楼主照片里的
有类似问题,但是没有这么惨不忍睹,后来那发子弹进不了枪膛,卡住了,所以没办法
闭锁,拉出来的时候还得使点劲。 |
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H******S 发帖数: 6011 | 50 10 yard,自己吐口痰都中靶心了,要啥精度?
呵呵,开玩笑的啦。我是觉得有些许影响,但除非是打精度,实际上打IDPA什么的差那
么一寸半寸没啥区别。不信你自己买下不同的子弹打打就知道了,反正我打Tula这个俄
国弹的散布就要比WWB什么的要大。 |
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