w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 1 对村长来说，天天都是heaven，
涨了就call，跌了就put，
猴了/猪了就straddle, strangle,哈 |
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B*S
发帖数: 1328 | 2 I think this is politics. TG is worried that tons of flies will come in
through this hole...
If they cannot control it, they will strangle it.
But Wall Street may have a different opinion, though. |
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l******f
发帖数: 42 | 3 Here are some possible effects – in no particular order except for #10 -
if US debt gets downgraded due to political failure to raise (or preferably
eliminate) the debt ceiling and get some meaningful spending cuts:
1) Money market funds may again break down below par ($1) because according
to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission rule as of January 2010 money
funds are required to hold at least 30% of their assets in Treasuries.
Money market funds hold $1.3 trillion in Treasuries so if T... 阅读全帖 |
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 4 被MM玩死了。。。
呵呵。
卖strangle吧。 |
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l*********g
发帖数: 1154 | 6 My Strangle option 82.5 call and 80 put in red, need to drop more to make a
profit |
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 7 The stock was ~85 yesterday? Then your call was ITM and your put was OTM,
hence you had a bullish bias in your strangle, i.e., you were slightly long
as of yesterday. Therefore, you lost money today after a 10% move down.
Now you could take a loss to get out, or if you want to "extract value" out
of the options, you would need to trade the stock well (7 days is still a
long time for this market). For instance, if you think 77.5 is the low, you
should sell the 80P now and keep the call hoping ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********g
发帖数: 1154 | 8 thanks for your response which is very helpful.
exactly, I was slightly long by initiating the strangle position yesterday,
hoping for an up trend or big down. the problem is that before the earning,
most of the option premimum went to the time value,if the stock doesn't move
enough in either direction, the risk to lose money is big.
long
out
you
the
already |
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j*****h
发帖数: 3292 | 9 有回复了
"We do offer more advanced options trading through OptionsFirst. You are
able to write naked calls in an OptionsFirst account. OptionsFirst offers
more advanced options strategies such as spreads, straddles, strangles,
collars and butterflies. OptionsFirst accounts are held separately from
Scottrade brokerage accounts and cannot be linked. "
大牛们帮看一下，可以stock 和option link在一起的broker有哪些？IB我知道是，但
是IB是倾向于active trader的，我不想交易那么频繁，有么有其他的broker?
10个包子表谢意 |
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r*****3
发帖数: 570 | 10 本来打算玩一次strategy, 不过太贪了.哎..不过赌就不怕输,NND下星期再搞NFLX.这次
上Strangle,在IV上玩一下. |
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a********t
发帖数: 4508 | 11 有道理。其实诸位赌徒可以尝试一下Straddle 或Strangle。 |
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r***s
发帖数: 1805 | 13 我指的是strangle. 股市就一赌场. 不过我赌GOOG/AAPL ER 就很成功. |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 14 目前有
19OCT 3 call 0.17 / put 0.18
21DEC 3 call 0.55 / put 0.37
本来买 19OCT 的还不错
可是 Q3 ER 日期未定 如果是 19OCT 后的话。。。那就没用了
但买 12月的 很贵啊。。。
你们觉得呢 |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 16 请大牛详解啊
比如像上次这样价格大幅波动 这个策略还可以啊
为啥说是瞎搞呢 |
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 17 你没有odd赢啊，这次即使赢了，以后（用不了多久）迟早输回去。
er前类似znga这种股票option都会贼贵，er后马上time value消失,起码要有5%的move
才能打平.
再说了，straddle一般用在价格贵的股票，起码要有个几十刀吧，比较理想对象是aapl
/goog/bidu/cmg/pcln等等，znga就3刀怎么搞straddle啊 |
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m******t
发帖数: 1694 | 18 straddle一般用在价格贵的股票，起码要有个几十刀吧，比较理想对象是aapl
/goog/bidu/cmg/pcln等等，znga就3刀怎么搞straddle啊
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
nod
move
aapl |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 21 恩 上次一时冲动赌er 结果没加put 亏废 唉 |
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U********f
发帖数: 2482 | 23
it is too expense. i would wait untill Nov. option come out.
I will only buy option cheaper than 10% of its stock price.
in this case, LESS than 30 cents. |
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c*******9
发帖数: 6411 | 24 just buy the damn stock
it will shoot to the roof! |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 25 不敢了 上次脑子一热 亏废了
如果买，也一定弄上put |
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U********f
发帖数: 2482 | 27
go roof first, then moon! |
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U********f
发帖数: 2482 | 29
NOV OPTION will come out after Oct. |
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 30 小同学玩得越来越花了，嘿嘿，半年来长进好快啊！ |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 31 这是什么道理呢 为什么现在有 9月 10月 12月。。没有11月？ |
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 32 我没有查ZNGA，照你描述的看，ZNGA quaterly是按3, 6, 9, 12来循环的。
另外它会keep 2 front monthly open，所以等今天9月结束，下周开始，应该
有10，11月open。 |
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r*****e
发帖数: 4611 | 33 价格贵的也不好搞
曾经搞过goog的，er公布后短期的call和put各跌80%。
正确的搞法似乎是er前1个月就买中期的call和put，er的前一天都卖掉。
move
aapl |
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U********f
发帖数: 2482 | 35
looking for volatility high stock, like GMCR NFLX RIMM HPQ FSLR |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 36 不是一回事吧
znga 我是不会去long 的
我只想尝试 Strangle option 玩 他的 er
看上的是他可能的剧烈波动 |
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a*******0
发帖数: 201 | 37
Inverted strangle到期可能只assign only one side. 第二天有个gap risk. |
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m*****g
发帖数: 3029 | 38
刚才一个大牛做了spy的Strangle, short both call and put with the same
expiration date. Both call and put are out-of-money很多，
这样风险小，收益小。
如果他搞的itm或更近些，收益大些，但风险巨大，划不来。
取决于市场趋势判断。趋势很明显时可卖itm的options。比如有一个股上升趋势明显了
，你也愿意hold for a while if something happens, then it is good to naked
short itm puts. Naked short out-of-money puts 这时肉就太少了。
又比如GS,现在117.7.下星期Naked short Dec/2012 and Jan/2013 125 CALL 是性价比
较高的买卖。
如股价有反弹，可加烧call一点。赢面较大。 |
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k******r
发帖数: 4011 | 39 列出了各种股票 各次 er 如果买strangle 的 最后盈亏情况
看着挺有意思的
现在找不到了
谁知道啊 |
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f****r
发帖数: 5118 | 40 你可以试试啊，这叫straddle or strangle spread. You will lose money because
of veta decay |
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c*********o
发帖数: 8367 | 41 我特别同意你说的。。其实这么多年过去了， 只有一个真理在股市里面颠扑不破。
那就是风险和收益成正比。 完美的策略就意味着低收益。风险低的万全之策就赚个巴
费钱。风险高的，收益就可能巨大， 当然亏损也可能巨大。 经过各种测试，比如单
向OPTION，STRADDLE STRANGLE， BUTTERFLY， IRON。。。再做做FUTURE，，最后
还是回到炒股票的老路上来了，而且还只做单边LONG，发现还就这个适合上班一族 LOL |
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y*******o
发帖数: 6632 | 42 will hold till Wednesday
515 and 490 |
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i*********n
发帖数: 5465 | 43 果子的option做起来是挺吓人
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7 |
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y*******o
发帖数: 6632 | 44 sold 80% 490 put @8.5 to cover 80% of all cost.
hold the rest puts and calls for one more day |
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d********1
发帖数: 3828 | 46 这就是卖option的尴尬。直接short暴赚，bearish的short strangle还赔。 |
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 48 AMZN options IV priced in big price movement.
As a options writer, I won't sell 280 put today, this is too risky.
I said that at that time just to emphasize that I am a writer only...and
selling strangle is one of my trading ways. |
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m*s
发帖数: 6855 | 49 amzn er 最喜欢的事情是出er后 暴跌, 然后又涨回来且比er前高.
不知道这次怎么走. 可以买atm 的strangle, 然后盘后lock: 不过要求的margin或者帐
户比较大. 我做不了 |
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s******n
发帖数: 158 | 50 我知道是不是问本人， 不过， 我还是回答吧。
Butterfly, strangle, spread .... 都是华尔街正规军的东东，有用， 但不够。
本人多年摸索出来的， 是游击作风。
有人朋友的孩子， 本科在柏克莱学生物，对finance 感兴趣，得到本人几个小时的真
传，击败藤校科班毕业生，华尔街最低谷时候被高薪聘用。
找国人， 利用游击作风，优化策略，在适当机会下手， 赚它一笔。 |
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