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r*******u
发帖数: 8732
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Shaw放弃手机网络
转攻户外WiFi服务 分析员错愕 股价挫3%
【明报专讯】加西有线网络商Shaw Communications(代号SJR.B)昨宣布,取消筹备已
久的传统手机网络计划,转而為现有客户发展户外WiFi无线上网服务。但分析员认為,
这样做错过了发展迅速、利润最高的手机数据传送服务潮流。投资者有同感,Shaw股价
跌3%。
Shaw总部设在卡加利,在2008年投得手机无线频谱,但其后多次延迟推出手机无线服务
。它决定完全放弃手机网络计划,无异放弃电讯领域中最赚钱的一环。
和Shaw同时获得无线频谱的新手机网络商如Wind Mobile,早已开始了服务。现在Shaw
决定放弃,转而集中发展WiFi,其中一个原因是WiFi佔用的频谱是免费使用;况且现在
建立一个手机无线网络既昂贵,竞争也太剧烈,对它这些缺乏规模经营的新进服务商并
不划算。
Shaw解释,建立户外WiFi网络,容许该公司扩展流动宽频互联网服务,而毋须承担建立
全面手机网络的费用。该公司指出,以近年发展最快的平板电脑為例,至今卖出最多的
是只具备WiFi功能。Shaw显然以此作為放弃手机网络,专心发展WiFi... 阅读全帖
e******u
发帖数: 537
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来自主题: NCAA版 - Shaw lied and suspended indefinitely
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/usc-cb-josh-shaw-admits-he-
lied-about-heoric-act--retains-a-lawyer-230956759.html
Josh Shaw’s heroic story was a lie.
The USC senior cornerback admitted as much Wednesday in a statement released
by the university, which also said Shaw had retained a lawyer.
Earlier Wednesday, the LAPD told Rivals.com site TrojansSports.com that Shaw
was a subject in an ongoing investigation into a burglary at an apartment
complex.
Witnesses described the suspect:... 阅读全帖
e******u
发帖数: 537
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来自主题: NCAA版 - USC's Shaw is a hero!!
too bad we now lost our starting CB and the defensive caption indefinitely...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/uscs-shaw-jumps-second-floor-00070
USC's Shaw jumps from second floor to save nephew
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Southern California senior cornerback Josh Shaw injured
both ankles after leaping from a second-story balcony to save his 7-year-old
nephew, Carter, from drowning in a pool.
Shaw was named a team captain on Saturday and later that night was attending
a family function at a cousin's apart... 阅读全帖
c****s
发帖数: 5892
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加拿大有线电视和通信服务供应商Shaw Communications(以下简称Shaw)将于2011年末推出LTE服务,作为新的多重业务(互联网、电视、手机和固话)的一部分。
Shaw是加拿大五家移动运营商之一,在2008年投入1.895亿加元拍下无线频谱。Shaw近期宣布本财年将投入1亿加元建设LTE网络。
Shaw开始积极投入到无线市场的开拓,公司总裁Peter Bissonnette在一份公告中表示:“下一代无线通信将不仅仅是手机。我们将以革新的领先的方式进入无线市场,为我们的客户在室内外都能享受到激动人心的移动体验。”
Shaw将成通信市场新手之一,Mobilicity、Public Mobile和Videotron都是新近打入加拿大无线网络市场的企业,力图从加拿大贝尔、Telus和Rogers等运营商手里分一杯羹。
Mobilicity将网络管理外包给了爱立信,这笔交易是爱立信在加拿大的首个网络运营管理合同,也是北美第二个大合同(仅次于去年与Sprint Nextel的合作)。
a**********n
发帖数: 59
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For my understanding, DE Shaw Co is the prestigious hedge fund, big player
in the market.
DE Shaw lab is a pure research lab focusing on Bio-Chemistry stuff that the
Boss of DE Shaw opened for personal interest...
n******m
发帖数: 1551
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为什么不敢去买啊?再不去就什么都没有了。
红国宝20磅的是$27,10磅的是$15,5磅的我忘记了。
下午,我想去我这附近另一家shaws再扫点红国宝,结果一去,那家shaws还在好好的卖
东西,一点倒闭的倾向都没有。好像是CT有5家shaws没有关门,难怪这周我这里还在发
shaws的广告,不过只有反正面一共4页。
G********n
发帖数: 615
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http://www.ams.org/news?news_id=1166
这俩人一个20岁拿到博士一个23岁拿到博士
Christodoulou and Hamilton Receive 2011 Shaw Prize
Demetrios Christodoulou of the ETH-Zurich and Richard Hamilton of Columbia
University have jointly been awarded the Shaw Prize of US$1 million "for
their highly innovative works on nonlinear partial differential equations in
Lorentzian and Riemannian geometry and their applications to general
relativity and topology." The work of the two prizewinners exemplifies the
power of geometric me... 阅读全帖
n*****y
发帖数: 361
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 谁知道De Shaw Inc这家公司怎么样?
D.E. Shaw 是偶像级的.成了billionanre后,开了个 D.E. Shaw Research 一心搞科研
去了。
据说创始人离开后,D.E. Shaw hedge fund 就走下破路了。
录取条件据说是街上最苛刻的,必须是牛校,奥赛冠军,或者什么其他特长,才会考虑
你。
我被裸拒。
a*******t
发帖数: 867
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来自主题: Living版 - shaw的木地板怎么样?

我也在看地板。一般的Review认为Shaw要比Bruce高挡一点。当然也要贵一些。
我不是很清楚到底是品牌更重要呢还是木料的种类更重要。比如说Shaw或者是Somerset
的Oak一般也要4-7刀,而HomeDepot的Brazilian cherry, Tigerwood也才5刀多。
当然牌子是Home Legend,基本上算是HD 自己的牌子,外面基本上是没有听说过的。牌
子是肯定不如Shaw了。但是品牌能差多少呢? 而木料是实实在在的不一样了。
另外如果从HD 或Lowes买料再请人装,比较担心如果出问题后比较难处理。
如果从专门的地板公司同时买料和安装,总觉的贵。从材料来说,HD和Lowes的便宜多
了.
比较纠结。
n******m
发帖数: 1551
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好几周没去搞shaws,今天本来是要买点海鲜的,一进门真的是吓了一跳,一打听才知
道CT所有的shaws都倒闭了。
所有的商品,除了烟酒,邮票,GC等,都半价,也不让用MFC了,不过,我还是找到了
好deal,红国宝也是半价,我把剩下的25磅红国宝扫清了,算下来比flushing的价格还
要便宜,还买了些organic的鸡蛋,也是不错的deal。
shaws倒了,我倒是有种解脱的感觉了。
l********a
发帖数: 3058
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shaws阿shaws阿shaws阿,就冲你问这个你就该发包子
我梦寐以求免费炒菜油....
k**i
发帖数: 10191
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都快被搞晕了,星期一去SHAWS买了四盒梦龙雪糕,这周BOGO,给我扫了四个胖子。然
后今天我又去买四盒,小二扫一个ITEM,紧接着就扫一个胖子,结果到第三个和第四个
的时候,胖子就无法扫过了,系统认定是OVERAGE,过不了。本来想想算了,就结账了
。结果求知小二叫来经理来问,经理去查COUPON POLICY,回来把四个胖子全收了,退
了我$3 CASH。。。
回家查了一下SHAWS COUPON POLICY,上面居然没有任何关于BOGO SALE怎么用胖子的描
述,估计经理也是查了这个觉得四盒雪糕可以用四个。。。
想跟大家确认一下,SHAWS BOGO SALE到底是用1个还是2个MQ。。。我都混乱了。。
j******n
发帖数: 74
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现在shaws推出优惠 5箱百事的易拉罐汽水(每罐12瓶) 卖 5元,平均每罐不到1毛钱
。 60罐 5元,这也是我看过最便宜的可乐价格了,而且还有mountain dew 这样我的最
爱。
而costco的大概是 36罐一箱,约 9元
当然,也有前提
1,需要花5.8元买一个22小包的薯片套装 原价是7.8元
2,需要使用coupon(shaws的入口的海报上有这个coupon)
3,需要shaws的卡,免费办理,与stop shop类似
4,一次必须买5箱,多了少了都不行。
K*4
发帖数: 1808
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With or without LeBron James, Brian Shaw will coach the Cleveland Cavaliers.
A source told FanHouse the Lakers assistant is finalizing a deal to join the
Cavaliers just one day before James' much-anticipated free agency begins.
Shaw was a finalist with former New Orleans and New Jersey coach Byron Scott
after Michigan State coach Tom Izzo declined the team's offer earlier this
month.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/29/source-brian-shaw-to-coach-cleveland-cavaliers/
e******u
发帖数: 537
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来自主题: NCAA版 - USC's Shaw is a hero!!
things getting a little bizarre....
@ABC7Curt: We have an interview with Josh Shaws sister who confirms Josh
saved her son from the pool and was hurt in the process.
Curt Sandoval ‏@ABC7Curt Asia Shaw - the sister of #USC Josh Shaw says
her son is ok - and Josh was on the balcony and "reacted". The Story at 5:
45 with @ABC7Rob

Palmdale,
with
a***c
发帖数: 315
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DE Shaw是歌大钱计算机系教授。华街计算机金融先驱。开创用超级计算机进行trade的
对冲基金,D.E.Shaw. 现在是Billionair. 每年自己掏钱雇了一帮电脑天才和科学
天才为他做科学研究。不过发的paper都要挂上他的名字。以前听说有stanford毕业拿
到好几个排名前十学校Offer不去,而去D.E.Shaw的。
a***c
发帖数: 315
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Completely separated though profit from DE Shaw CO may be used to fund DE
Shaw Research.
b**g
发帖数: 335
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原文刊於Institutional Investor (March 2007)
WHEN DAVID SHAW turned 50 in 2001, he paused to take stock
of his life. D.E. Shaw & Co., the New York-based investment
firm he had founded more than a decade earlier, was thriving.
Its core business -- a quantitative-based hedge fund that
relies on sophisticated computer-driven algorithmic models
to find mispriced securities -- had grown from $28 million
in 1988 to more than $3 billion. But Shaw, who has a Ph.D.
in computer science from Stanford University
c*******e
发帖数: 150
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今天收到shaw第二轮on-site面试的通知。偶知道DE Shaw是非常非常selective的firm
,以前听说找full-time的师兄面了七轮八轮到最后background checking了还会被回报
掉。基本是和高手过过招长点经验值,不可能生还到最后的。何况偶又是在找
internship,基本更加不可能了。最近还有秋季学期的project和准备期末考试,觉得
这些更重要一些。
问问版上的大侠,大家知道有成功申到DE Shaw暑期实习的先例么? 谢谢啦
偶觉得事先知道必死的命运感觉更好一些,也可以更集中注意力申其它行的职位
b***k
发帖数: 2673
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☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cavaliere ( the Griffins ) 于 (Wed Dec 12 22:54:46 2007) 提到:
最近在等,比较着急,到版上向前辈达人询问一下。10天前提交DE Shaw quantitative
researcher的申请,8天前收到Strategic Growth 的那个Technical Information
Sheet,就是问各种计算机语言的经验以及理论课程,写代码经历的那个表格。挺认真地
填了当天就寄回去了。到现在什么反馈都没有。
本来DE Shaw也抱着比较轻松的心态去申请的,要求这么苛刻的HF,基本不可能有机会
活到最后的。不过就好比和欧阳峰过招,最后即使败了,也能长一些见识和经验值。所
以还是有点期望能有第一轮面试的。请问有可能那个表格填的不好,第一轮面试DE
Shaw 就不发的可能么。我是应该继续耐心地等等还是写信给SG询问一下呢?
谢谢指教啊
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
kosine (仰视星辰)
f*********3
发帖数: 4
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极近BU/BC!! 下楼2min57路, 地铁绿线 B线,1min香港超市,3min shaw's!
紧邻香港超市(原88超市)和Shaws。楼下既是 57、66、64车站。走路去bu也只要10-
15分钟。
对BU/BC学生超级方便。4间卧室中的一间。非常大,房间朝向好,采光好。室友均为BU
学生,女生!
家具有:双人大床,大书桌,椅子,大衣橱,书柜,无线网络。 楼下就是洗衣房。
房间内有三个大窗户,白天都能有阳光照射,采光非常好
有1厨房,2厕所,1客厅,
租期6月1日到8月31日。租金700/月。希望女生入住。
包水费。其余费用如网费、暖气费等加起来大概一个月十几块
有意者可找我要照片! 随时欢迎看房
地址是 72 gardner st, Allston, MA, 02134, 2楼
f******[email protected]
617-849-2293
i******y
发帖数: 898
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二手交易风险自负!请自行验证是否合法和一手卡!:
y
我想卖的物品:
Publix/winndixie/albertsons-acme-shaws/safewa
单张面值:
25
可接受价格(必须明码标价!):
**可以交换 rainbow gc**
Publix 75 0.9
winndixie 75 0.9
albertsons-acme-shaws star-jewel 75 0.9
safeway 175 0.92
物品新旧要求:
new in hand
邮寄方式要求:
YCYP
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
default
付款方式说明:
BOA or non-cc paypal
其他补充说明:
广告的有效期:
till gone
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
EPG/ss
我的联系方式:
mitbbs
Warranty期限:
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
yes
f*********3
发帖数: 4
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极近BU/BC!! 下楼2min57路, 地铁绿线 B线,1min香港超市,3min shaw's!
紧邻香港超市(原88超市)和Shaws。楼下既是 57、66、64车站。走路去bu也只要10-
15分钟。
对BU/BC学生超级方便。4间卧室中的一间。非常大,房间朝向好,采光好。室友均为BU
学生,女生!
家具有:双人大床,大书桌,椅子,大衣橱,书柜,无线网络。 楼下就是洗衣房。
房间内有三个大窗户,白天都能有阳光照射,采光非常好
有1厨房,2厕所,1客厅,
租期6月1日到8月31日。租金700/月。希望女生入住。
包水费。其余费用如网费、暖气费等加起来大概一个月十几块
有意者可找我要照片! 随时欢迎看房
地址是 72 gardner st, Allston, MA, 02134, 2楼
f******[email protected]
617-849-2293
g********k
发帖数: 838
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shaw research好像是research lab,co是投资银行,有什么关系吗?
评价怎么样啊?好像人很少,查不到什么资料
g********k
发帖数: 838
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恩,谢谢,看来research lab比较一般对吧
一般说的shaw co是很大的投资公司,谢谢了!

the
t****z
发帖数: 14
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小的现在是在加拿大东海岸,6年工作经验,半工半读了Master in computer
engineering。方便大家下面都是美刀USD
现在远程给NVIDIA做硬工,也算是一个小lead目前管了几个印度人做GPU,拿着$135k
base, bonus $20k + $35k stocks。
我大概一年前面过DE Shaw Research做DV engineer,但是我说因为家庭原因我不能去
NYC。最近他们说有limited term 1-3年full-time职位让我远程做,估计跟上次offer
差不多,去年给$230k base + $100k sign-on。
才在NV干了一年,感觉还有上升空间,而且股票飕飕涨不知道值不值得离开?听
recruiter口气3年后在DE Shaw Research继续干就要搬过去,我因为家里原因很困难。
本地硬工选择少工资低,NV这个职位很不错了,是不是应该就乖乖做着?求大家给点意
见谢谢!
r********6
发帖数: 217
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来自主题: Living版 - shaw的木地板怎么样?
想要装地板,contractor推荐shaw家的。以前没听说过,上来问问有知道的吗?Shaw家
的木地板质量如何?和Bruce的比如何?谢谢
w**********t
发帖数: 206
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - 这周shaws的冰激凌买1送2
没shaws。。。
排有shaws包!
m*r
发帖数: 37612
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - 这周shaws的冰激凌买1送2
我不是神医,我是打酱油的护士
很少去shaws
刚才为了confirm那个买300刀gc送30的deal
特意去访问了一下shaws.com, flyer第一页很大的买1送2
不知道原价几毛钱
w********e
发帖数: 2113
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - Shaws的GC deal又来了
New Gift Card promo- (9/4-9/17)
Buy $100 in Gift cards (excluded Shaw's, AMEX, MC, Visa) in one purchase and
receive a Catalina coupon for a $10 store (Shaw's) gift card.
The Catlina coupon is dated to expire in one week, and the coupon says limit
one coupon per purchase per day.
s********g
发帖数: 3740
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - shaws GC deal疑问
flyer上写着每天只出一个,那如果我换一天用同一张shaws卡再买100GC,还会出
20grocery的胖子么?
另外,我可以用shaws的GC来买amazon的GC么? thx
k**i
发帖数: 10191
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - 家附近有shaws的来讨论一下吧。
这周shaws有什么可买的,有哪些胖子可以打印?谢谢!
我家附近有两个shaws,不知道这周有什么好deal么?求达人攻略,大家集思广益,"
共同致富"。。。哈哈。
k**i
发帖数: 10191
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$2.5 each at Shaws. Coupons.com有0。75 OFF胖~~ DOUBLE后减掉1.5, 最后价格是1
刀一瓶~~ 价格还行吧? 有买过更便宜的吗? :)
a*****e
发帖数: 1717
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来自主题: Stock版 - Mayoutu,好好学习进DE Shaw吧
he would have no chance to get an interview from DESHAW
I knew tons of ivy students who did not get interview from DE SHAW.
one of my friends got the interview, and it was humiliating .
SAC/ DE SHAW would get any entry level > 300K. (bonus included).
but millions paycheck is not rare in these company.
Heard a guy got MD in Citadel before his 30's.
20M bonus. but seemed to have law suit again the company for
non-compete reason.
x*******1
发帖数: 28835
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一次就跑出39yard啊。 不是shaw在中间狂跑,估计比赛早结束了。 shaw 和worley 扔
得都很不靠铺,估计去礼拜天打球没戏了
e******u
发帖数: 537
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来自主题: NCAA版 - USC's Shaw is a hero!!
"Neither the LAPD or the Palmdale, Calif., Sheriff's Department — Palmdale,
Calif., is where Shaw's cousin lives — has any record of an incident with
Shaw or any warrants out for his arrest."
-- but if what says below is true. he should be kicked off the team...

story
a***c
发帖数: 315
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D. E. Shaw是个人材黑洞.招了不少计算机名校PhD, 然后就都销声匿迹了. D. E. Shaw
公司本身是quant.但招的计算机PhD好像不是去搞quant.据说是在搞bioinformatics.
x******r
发帖数: 367
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D.E.Shaw has built a lab working on computational biology after he made a
lot of money from finance.
He is a super smart guy.

Shaw
w***s
发帖数: 424
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谢谢谢谢~
个人感觉D. E. Shaw喜欢有统计背景的人,面试问了我很多统计的问题,比如怎么
approximate heavy tail distributions,
such as power law。D. E. Shaw面试官都是大牛,主要面我的有两个人,一个印度人
,EE专业,统计背景很深,另一个俄
罗斯人,Java Expert, and CCIE,这个俄罗斯人是我在美国见过写程序最牛的人。
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Con, D.E.Shaw Group or D.E.Shaw Research?
Anyway, both have fancy locations in Manhattan.
w***s
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谢谢谢谢~
个人感觉D. E. Shaw喜欢有统计背景的人,面试问了我很多统计的问题,比如怎么
approximate heavy tail distributions,
such as power law。D. E. Shaw面试官都是大牛,主要面我的有两个人,一个印度人
,EE专业,统计背景很深,另一个俄
罗斯人,Java Expert, and CCIE,这个俄罗斯人是我在美国见过写程序最牛的人。
s*****x
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Con, D.E.Shaw Group or D.E.Shaw Research?
Anyway, both have fancy locations in Manhattan.
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Well, from my understanding, both of them were successful as faculty/
researchers.
And both are running hedge-funds with 20--30 billion dollars.
The differences are:
Shaw is focusing drug-design via computation biochemistry, if success,
it will have HUGE HUGE impact on humankind. His vision is great,
the D.E.Shaw research team has ~100 talents now working on this.
Simons seems more successful in running financial section, yet donates money
to basic research and health science, but doesn't have a
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来自主题: Mathematics版 - 2015 Shaw prize: Faltings and Iwaniec
The Shaw Prize in Mathematical Sciences 2015 is awarded to Gerd Faltings,
Managing Director at Max Planck Institute for Mathematics in Bonn, Germany,
and Henryk Iwaniec, New Jersey Professor of Mathematics at Rutgers
University, USA, for their introduction and development of fundamental tools
in number theory, allowing them as well as others to resolve some
longstanding classical problems.
Number theory concerns whole numbers, prime numbers, and polynomial
equations involving them. The central p... 阅读全帖
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tongqiao (tongqiao) 于 (Thu Mar 29 02:27:29 2007) 提到:
发信人: tongqiao (tongqiao), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 请教关于D.E.Shaw的phone interview
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 29 02:24:39 2007), 转信
Software engineer position, 30分钟的phone interview, 不知道回问些什么东西?
请教有经验的大侠,多谢多谢!
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quantsquants (quantsquants) 于 (Thu Mar 29 10:42:35 2007) 提到:
I didn't interview D.E.Shaw. I heard that they ask a lot of tough
brainteasers for quant position
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来自主题: Quant版 - 关于D.E.Shaw的问题
金融领域也有很多金牌。
难道非要每个金牌都去做Fields/Nobel级别的研究吗?
这是对社会资源的极大浪费。
应用领域也需要很多高素质的人才。
D.E.Shaw要填的大表,纯粹是扯淡。
实际上他们基本上就看一眼你毕业的学校,就把你聚了。
一个mid-size的hedge fund,能招多少人?
几乎所有找工作的兄弟们都被要求填这个表吧。
D.E.Shaw sucks.
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Subject: Automatic acknowledgment from the D. E. Shaw group
Thank you for expressing an interest in the D. E. Shaw group. We will
contact you shortly if we decide to pursue your candidacy. If we are
unable to identify a good match between your particular background and
experience and our immediate requirements, we will keep your resume in
our files indefinitely on the possibility that a suitable position may
become available at a later date. Your resume will be shown to the hiring
managers
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olympic (WaveRider) 于 (Fri Aug 24 13:36:57 2007) 提到:
rumors floating around.
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helpme (范坚强) 于 (Fri Aug 24 15:20:51 2007) 提到:
什么rumor,要到了?good。

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Eg (EG) 于 (Mon Aug 27 22:29:42 2007) 提到:
According to Financial Times last week, one fund of DE Shaw has been down 22
% in August, and another has been down 7%. DE Shaw refused to comment.
Some commentators in FT say DE Sha
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来自主题: Quant版 - David Elliot Shaw
(born 1951 in New York) is a computer scientist and computational biochemist
who founded D. E. Shaw & Co., a hedge fund company which has been described
by Fortune magazine as "the most intriguing and mysterious force on Wall
Street." A former faculty member in the computer science department at
Columbia University, Shaw made his fortune exploiting inefficiencies in
financial markets with the help of sophisticated computer models. In 1996,
Fortune magazine referred to him as "King Quant" because
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来自主题: Quant版 - [合集] DE SHAW内幕揭密
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bluechange (蓝易) 于 (Thu Oct 4 14:45:48 2007) 提到:
情况是这样的:
DE SHAW最近面临重大亏损,公司高层焦虑不安,于是召集几位金牌想想办法。
几位金牌通过仔细分析/建模/计算,得出的结果是公司人员的IQ普遍太高,过于集中,
没有将IQ RISK给diversify掉。
公司高层觉得有理,当即将几位IQ过高的金牌lay off,银牌暂时留下,同时通知HR部
门大规模招一些弱智进来。
HR于是在各大网站/高校贴出各式各样的工作职位,并故意将number of openings显示
为0。
凡申请者,当即给予OFFER,并承诺年薪200KD。。。
(注:KD-Kuwaiti Dinar)
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killcy (金融研究员) 于 (Thu Oct 4 14:51:50 2007) 提到:
haha, u r 2 bad
as we know, de shaw got no
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