S**********r
发帖数: 553 | 1 你学数学的吧。 别浪费时间炒股了。 原始资本少，就算翻了20倍也没意义。
不如好好学习数学，毕业后进入DE Shaw或者SAC Capital这种牛公司。
哎，我们这种非学生此生已经没机会了。。。 加油！ |
s********u
发帖数: 1054 | 2 In my opinion, he would have some serious trouble completing his Ph.D in math.
It would be an excruciatingly painful experience to study math once one
lost his passion.
【在 S**********r 的大作中提到】
: 你学数学的吧。 别浪费时间炒股了。 原始资本少，就算翻了20倍也没意义。
: 不如好好学习数学，毕业后进入DE Shaw或者SAC Capital这种牛公司。
: 哎，我们这种非学生此生已经没机会了。。。 加油！
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r*****t
发帖数: 7278 | 3 这是正道。我也是如此觉得。
学生时代还是好好学习，没有事情多和老板在一起。不要分心在这股市上面。 |
o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 4 和老板在一起有个Q用，这念头老板自己求funding都跟狗一样，还顾得上别人？
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 这是正道。我也是如此觉得。
: 学生时代还是好好学习，没有事情多和老板在一起。不要分心在这股市上面。
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r*****t
发帖数: 7278 | |
s********u
发帖数: 1054 | 6 I am not entirely convinced. I personally know a few math Ph.Ds graduated from very top schools like Harvard and MIT who were hired by investment banks right after graduation. From what I heard, the starting salary is not that high.
prodigy,
talking
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: DE Shaw 年薪450K
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i***o
发帖数: 778 | |
w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 8 exactly.
The entry level is similiar as in IT fiel, sometimes can be lower...
from very top schools like Harvard and MIT who were hired by investment
banks right after graduation. From what I heard, the starting salary is not
that high.
【在 s********u 的大作中提到】
: I am not entirely convinced. I personally know a few math Ph.Ds graduated from very top schools like Harvard and MIT who were hired by investment banks right after graduation. From what I heard, the starting salary is not that high.
:
: prodigy,
: talking
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 9 Jees, those models are PDEs.
【在 i***o 的大作中提到】
: PDE的东西难道真能用到stock上？
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a*****e
发帖数: 1717 | 10 he would have no chance to get an interview from DESHAW
I knew tons of ivy students who did not get interview from DE SHAW.
one of my friends got the interview, and it was humiliating .
SAC/ DE SHAW would get any entry level > 300K. (bonus included).
but millions paycheck is not rare in these company.
Heard a guy got MD in Citadel before his 30's.
20M bonus. but seemed to have law suit again the company for
non-compete reason. |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | |
a*****e
发帖数: 1717 | 12 my experience is 70k - 250k for 1st year entry level(bonus included).
average is around 100k these days.
few ppl could get promoted so this is highly liquid job market.
not
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: exactly.
: The entry level is similiar as in IT fiel, sometimes can be lower...
:
: from very top schools like Harvard and MIT who were hired by investment
: banks right after graduation. From what I heard, the starting salary is not
: that high.
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m*****u
发帖数: 5534 | 13 less than 500K & linear salary |
b******r
发帖数: 16603 | |
m*****u
发帖数: 5534 | 15 must be crazy work, like 14 hours a day, like a slave.
prodigy,
talking
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: DE Shaw 年薪450K
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 16 Beijing Ivy students doesn't mean first priority for job hunting.
Many years ago, one Harvard PhD who is my friend, later I knew he tried his
best to jump in my company, for 3 times of interview, got rejected for no
reasons.
He was quite surprised that I got offer of only one-time interview and felt
very weird.
At that time, I didn't have PhD yet, my school was also second below Harvard.
None of fields can prove I was stronger at all. My company never told him
the reason to reject.
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: he would have no chance to get an interview from DESHAW
: I knew tons of ivy students who did not get interview from DE SHAW.
: one of my friends got the interview, and it was humiliating .
: SAC/ DE SHAW would get any entry level > 300K. (bonus included).
: but millions paycheck is not rare in these company.
: Heard a guy got MD in Citadel before his 30's.
: 20M bonus. but seemed to have law suit again the company for
: non-compete reason.
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 17 Obviously he was overqualified.
his
felt
Harvard.
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: Beijing Ivy students doesn't mean first priority for job hunting.
: Many years ago, one Harvard PhD who is my friend, later I knew he tried his
: best to jump in my company, for 3 times of interview, got rejected for no
: reasons.
: He was quite surprised that I got offer of only one-time interview and felt
: very weird.
: At that time, I didn't have PhD yet, my school was also second below Harvard.
: None of fields can prove I was stronger at all. My company never told him
: the reason to reject.
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 18 well， I believe he applied for the position closer to his field and
research, otherwise they didn't need to interview. He loved this company
best and knew it very well.
Something hidden that we could not see but company might have realized.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: Obviously he was overqualified.
:
: his
: felt
: Harvard.
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s********u
发帖数: 1054 | 19 well, a degree from an ivy league school would probably give one some edge
in the job market. for example, if you have a math ph.d from an Ivy school,
you would probably have a greater chance of landing a job with a reputable
financial firm than a math ph.d from a second tier school.
his
felt
Harvard.
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: Beijing Ivy students doesn't mean first priority for job hunting.
: Many years ago, one Harvard PhD who is my friend, later I knew he tried his
: best to jump in my company, for 3 times of interview, got rejected for no
: reasons.
: He was quite surprised that I got offer of only one-time interview and felt
: very weird.
: At that time, I didn't have PhD yet, my school was also second below Harvard.
: None of fields can prove I was stronger at all. My company never told him
: the reason to reject.
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a*****t
发帖数: 822 | 20 I second it. The right company needs the right person.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: Obviously he was overqualified.
:
: his
: felt
: Harvard.
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a*****e
发帖数: 1717 | 21 I did not say Ivy or decent school means anything.
but it's the fact that for most financial company,
they will put your resume into garbage bin if your
school name in your resume is not Dazzling.
I have through away some of these resume already.
I knew there might be some genius from "bad" school.
but no one has the patience or time to dig into it.
Just too many candidates from top schools.
his
felt
Harvard.
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: Beijing Ivy students doesn't mean first priority for job hunting.
: Many years ago, one Harvard PhD who is my friend, later I knew he tried his
: best to jump in my company, for 3 times of interview, got rejected for no
: reasons.
: He was quite surprised that I got offer of only one-time interview and felt
: very weird.
: At that time, I didn't have PhD yet, my school was also second below Harvard.
: None of fields can prove I was stronger at all. My company never told him
: the reason to reject.
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m*****u
发帖数: 5534 | 22 Below 500k-something, all worker level, no matter what the job is.
If one really wants to do something, maybe he has to be a manager of some
kind, then make millions every year.
Like CEO of Citi bank, he gets big bonuses in good years, and also gets high
pay in bad years. I like this kind of job. He is not the smartest people:
smartest people know how to make money consistently without losing huge in
bad years. But, he is smart enough to know he never loses huge pay from his
job. This is the point. |
i***o
发帖数: 778 | 23 PDE in math is quite different from PDE in stock.
Even the same equation, different approach.
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: Jees, those models are PDEs.
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s********u
发帖数: 1054 | 24 Well, I know math ph.ds in algebraic number theory who are hired by wall
street firms.
【在 i***o 的大作中提到】
: PDE in math is quite different from PDE in stock.
: Even the same equation, different approach.
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i***o
发帖数: 778 | 25
high
his
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~and this can not be learned from PDE. haha
【在 m*****u 的大作中提到】
: Below 500k-something, all worker level, no matter what the job is.
: If one really wants to do something, maybe he has to be a manager of some
: kind, then make millions every year.
: Like CEO of Citi bank, he gets big bonuses in good years, and also gets high
: pay in bad years. I like this kind of job. He is not the smartest people:
: smartest people know how to make money consistently without losing huge in
: bad years. But, he is smart enough to know he never loses huge pay from his
: job. This is the point.
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i***o
发帖数: 778 | 26 I heard the same story b4. I admit math phd should have the best training in
analysis, however, the earlier enter into this market, the better
understand it. I am always thinking this guy should quit earlier and go to
wall street cuz he done so eventually.
【在 s********u 的大作中提到】
: Well, I know math ph.ds in algebraic number theory who are hired by wall
: street firms.
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x*******i
发帖数: 1791 | |
t******g
发帖数: 462 | 28 DE Shaw just have a 10% cut
Citi CEO was previously owner of a fund, purchased by Citi with ridiculous
high price. Honestly speaking, both the CEO and the company sucks.
high
his
【在 m*****u 的大作中提到】
: Below 500k-something, all worker level, no matter what the job is.
: If one really wants to do something, maybe he has to be a manager of some
: kind, then make millions every year.
: Like CEO of Citi bank, he gets big bonuses in good years, and also gets high
: pay in bad years. I like this kind of job. He is not the smartest people:
: smartest people know how to make money consistently without losing huge in
: bad years. But, he is smart enough to know he never loses huge pay from his
: job. This is the point.
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j********q
发帖数: 1001 | 29 Two years ago, it was quite easy to get a very good job
Two years later, now, it is so hard for most of people. Recruiters are so
picky
his
felt
Harvard.
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: Beijing Ivy students doesn't mean first priority for job hunting.
: Many years ago, one Harvard PhD who is my friend, later I knew he tried his
: best to jump in my company, for 3 times of interview, got rejected for no
: reasons.
: He was quite surprised that I got offer of only one-time interview and felt
: very weird.
: At that time, I didn't have PhD yet, my school was also second below Harvard.
: None of fields can prove I was stronger at all. My company never told him
: the reason to reject.
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m****o
发帖数: 4921 | |
