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JianlianYi (Air Yi) 于 (Thu Mar 1 19:47:24 2012, 美东) 提到:
发信人: JianlianYi (Air Yi), 信区: NBA
标 题: Shaq-Kobe 16年的恩怨情仇
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 1 19:46:29 2012, 美东)
个人档案:
Shaq: Shaquille O'Neal,NBA历史上最有统治力的中锋,7尺1(2.16m),325磅(147kg)
。1972年出生,1992年NBA状元,被魔术队选中,1995带队进入总决赛。96年转会湖人
,与kobe一起建立湖人王朝(00~02三连冠),04年总决赛败给五虎将的活塞后,转会热
火,协同年轻的D.Wade拿到2006年总冠军。之后状态下滑,08年转到太阳,09年转到骑
士,10年转到波士顿,11年宣布退役,之后加入TNT和巴克利作伴。
Kobe: Kobe bryant,1978年出生,打PG或者SF,6尺6(1.98m),205磅(93kg... 阅读全帖 |
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h**********g 发帖数: 3962 | 2 Here are some stats of the 2000 NBA Finals.
Smits was no match to Shaq.
Lakers won in 6 games.
06/07/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 87 - 104
06/09/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 104 - 111
06/11/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 91 - 100
06/14/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 120 - 118
06/16/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 87 - 120
06/19/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 111 - 116
Game 1: PTS REB AST STL BLK TO PF MIN FG FT
Shaq: 43 19... 阅读全帖 |
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i********w 发帖数: 2223 | 3 第四章得分很诡异
Here are some stats of the 2000 NBA Finals.
Smits was no match to Shaq.
Lakers won in 6 games.
06/07/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 87 - 104
06/09/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 104 - 111
06/11/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 91 - 100
06/14/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 120 - 118
06/16/2000: L.A.Lakers at Indiana 87 - 120
06/19/2000: Indiana at L.A.Lakers 111 - 116
Game 1: PTS REB AST STL BLK TO PF MIN FG FT
Shaq: ... 阅读全帖 |
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J********i 发帖数: 50662 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 NBA 讨论区 】
发信人: JianlianYi (Air Yi), 信区: NBA
标 题: Shaq-Kobe 16年的恩怨情仇
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 1 19:46:29 2012, 美东)
个人档案:
Shaq: Shaquille O'Neal,NBA历史上最有统治力的中锋,7尺1(2.16m),325磅(147kg)
。1972年出生,1992年NBA状元,被魔术队选中,1995带队进入总决赛。96年转会湖人
,与kobe一起建立湖人王朝(00~02三连冠),04年总决赛败给五虎将的活塞后,转会热
火,协同年轻的D.Wade拿到2006年总冠军。之后状态下滑,08年转到太阳,09年转到骑
士,10年转到波士顿,11年宣布退役,之后加入TNT和巴克利作伴。
Kobe: Kobe bryant,1978年出生,打PG或者SF,6尺6(1.98m),205磅(93kg),还在不断
刷新记录中。1996年13顺位被黄蜂队选中,随即交易到湖人,为湖人效力至今,为湖人
取得了00~02,09~10的五个冠军。
1996~1999
Sh... 阅读全帖 |
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J********i 发帖数: 50662 | 5 个人档案:
Shaq: Shaquille O'Neal,NBA历史上最有统治力的中锋,7尺1(2.16m),325磅(147kg)
。1972年出生,1992年NBA状元,被魔术队选中,1995带队进入总决赛。96年转会湖人
,与kobe一起建立湖人王朝(00~02三连冠),04年总决赛败给五虎将的活塞后,转会热
火,协同年轻的D.Wade拿到2006年总冠军。之后状态下滑,08年转到太阳,09年转到骑
士,10年转到波士顿,11年宣布退役,之后加入TNT和巴克利作伴。
Kobe: Kobe bryant,1978年出生,打PG或者SF,6尺6(1.98m),205磅(93kg),还在不断
刷新记录中。1996年13顺位被黄蜂队选中,随即交易到湖人,为湖人效力至今,为湖人
取得了00~02,09~10的五个冠军。
1996~1999
Shaq那时候是球队绝对的老大,急迫地想拿到冠军戒指。Kobe和他同时加入湖人,还是
刚从高中毕业的毛头小孩,乖乖坐板凳。不过当时的他就极度自信,一些队友认为他傲
慢自私。当然他的技术出色,弹跳惊人,97年拿到扣篮冠军,98年入选全明星。Shaq给
Ko... 阅读全帖 |
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J********i 发帖数: 50662 | 6 个人档案:
Shaq: Shaquille O'Neal,NBA历史上最有统治力的中锋,7尺1(2.16m),325磅(147kg)
。1972年出生,1992年NBA状元,被魔术队选中,1995带队进入总决赛。96年转会湖人
,与kobe一起建立湖人王朝(00~02三连冠),04年总决赛败给五虎将的活塞后,转会热
火,协同年轻的D.Wade拿到2006年总冠军。之后状态下滑,08年转到太阳,09年转到骑
士,10年转到波士顿,11年宣布退役,之后加入TNT和巴克利作伴。
Kobe: Kobe bryant,1978年出生,打PG或者SF,6尺6(1.98m),205磅(93kg),还在不断
刷新记录中。1996年13顺位被黄蜂队选中,随即交易到湖人,为湖人效力至今,为湖人
取得了00~02,09~10的五个冠军。
1996~1999
Shaq那时候是球队绝对的老大,急迫地想拿到冠军戒指。Kobe和他同时加入湖人,还是
刚从高中毕业的毛头小孩,乖乖坐板凳。不过当时的他就极度自信,一些队友认为他傲
慢自私。当然他的技术出色,弹跳惊人,97年拿到扣篮冠军,98年入选全明星。Shaq给
Ko... 阅读全帖 |
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s***m 发帖数: 2 | 7 A few thoughts after watching last night's game.
a) Shaq still owns the paint. Yao did not guard Shaq that much at all. It was
Taylor and Cato who sucked most of the abuses from a raging shaq. JVG was
smart in sacrificing the little guys to save their best offensive weapon--Yao.
If Yao had guarded Shaq 1-on-1 just like Shaq did to him, Yao would have
fouled out before the 3rd quarter ended. Just count how many fouls Taylor and
Cato took for Yao.
Right now Shaq is a lot slower now than 3 or 4 yea |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 8 Love, LA fans make major fuss on Kobe, not Shaq. Most people went to
Staples to watch Kobe fly high, not Shaq powers the way. Kobe can shoot from 30 feet,
Shaq doesn't make many shots beyond 3 feet. All star votes went to Kobe
with a life sentence hangling and made him No.1 voted in west still, and
Shaq couldn't top YM again. Shaq is a big kid whom everyone better loves.
And when he's not treated like that, especially Mitch and Buss, he's pissed
off and jealous. No hate to Shaq, wish him a good |
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e*****d 发帖数: 160 | 9 老姚身体比较软,爆发力差,说是防shaq最好好像太过了,老yao运气好,来nba的第二
年,shaq就走大下坡路了,得分能力一下子降了5分多,完全被kobe比西下去 ,第一年
shaq伤了一段时间,后面两个遇上了我记得很清楚,yao先盖了他几个,不过总体防不
住之得了10分,shaq搞了30多。 最后靠sf3得了个40分搞定laker |
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f*****e 发帖数: 1394 | 10 我看你自己才没看明白,录像你自己打回重看。
别人就问这个冠军对于他个人来说意味什么,有提SHAQ没。
这段话(1 more than shaq & I won't forget anything)不管含义到底是什么,玩笑
,不当真的话,或者真话,建立在提问里面只是问他个人意思来说,这样的回答就是差
劲。
MJ HOF SPEECH第一提到的就是队友功劳,然后是TEAM WORK,COACH,最后嘲弄RUSSEL还
先说声he is such a nice guy,跟何况嘲弄的人是自己的对手根本就不是以前的TEAM
MATE WHO CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CHAMPS HE GOT.
别忘了kobe前三个冠军就是靠SHAQ拿到的。现在嘲弄SHAQ未免不有点小人得知,虽然
SHAQ确实也很STUPID RAP DIRTY ON HIM.
自己把KOBE当个宝没关系,别人说说还不行了那就不对了。 |
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L*A 发帖数: 554 | 11 re
我看你自己才没看明白,录像你自己打回重看。
别人就问这个冠军对于他个人来说意味什么,有提SHAQ没。
这段话(1 more than shaq & I won't forget anything)不管含义到底是什么,玩笑
,不当真的话,或者真话,建立在提问里面只是问他个人意思来说,这样的回答就是差
劲。
MJ HOF SPEECH第一提到的就是队友功劳,然后是TEAM WORK,COACH,最后嘲弄RUSSEL还
先说声he is such a nice guy,跟何况嘲弄的人是自己的对手根本就不是以前的TEAM
MATE WHO CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CHAMPS HE GOT.
别忘了kobe前三个冠军就是靠SHAQ拿到的。现在嘲弄SHAQ未免不有点小人得知,虽然
SHAQ确实也很STUPID RAP DIRTY ON HIM.
自己把KOBE当个宝没关系,别人说说还不行了那就不对了。 |
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w*******9 发帖数: 1433 | 12 99-00 (Kobe at the age of 21)
Shaq 30.7 ppg 15.4 reb 3.1 ast
Kobe 21.1 ppg 4.5 reb 4.4 ast
O’Neal led the team in scoring 16 games during the playoffs with games
scoring 46, 43, 41, 41, 40 plus eight other 30 point games. Bryant proved
his offensive skill leading the team in scoring six times with highs being
35, 33, 32 and 32 again at the age of 21.
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00-01 (Kobe at the age of 22)
Shaq 30.4 ppg 15.4 reb 3.2 ast... 阅读全帖 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 13 I did, Shaq lost his PJ buddy, and nobody is going
to defense him and bash Kobe any more, plus Buss is
not giving him the extension he didn't deserve, he is leaving.
And Shaq's stepfather critizie Kobe in plyaoff which
Shaq agrees with? No coincidence, right? He can't keep it
behind locker room. Always feel a need to bahs teammates
in public. You don't bahs your teammates and ask them to love you.
Lakers are not playing like a champ in Rox series, Shaq sucks, and
Kobe didn't say a thing. I am no |
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x**l 发帖数: 978 | 14 I read an article from SLAM magzine.
Kobe and Tmac were good friends when Tmac was in Raptor.
They called each other often, they often play video games together in Kobe's
home.
When Tmac moved to Orlando and become Shaq's neighbour, tmac and shaq started
getting very close. Then Kobe and Tmac are not as close as before.
Shaq and Tmac are still good friends now.
Shaq was actually the third wheel. hehe.... |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 15 主席和Shaq其实挺match,
而且主席有一点长处,他不怕,有韧性.
就算被Shaq灭了,也能学到不少东西,不断进步.
现在看来,全NBA防Shaq最好的,就是Duncan和主席. |
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 16 不好说
prime的shaq的力量,爆发力,移动速度跟弹跳好很多
小明同学的背打无解主要的过人之处在于身高体重高可以压住人,
然后手感非常好finish成功率高(转身后仰或者侧身小勾手)
打prime shaq的话很可能受到严重的多的干扰甚至被盖,
不是说打不了,但成功率未见得有"爆"这个水平
反过来prime shaq打prime yao,因为移动速度的问题,那可真是要爆的彻底了
02年的时候小明同学比后来巅峰时瘦不少,移动能力还要高些
那时候单防都吃亏.
换到巅峰时的yao的话,进攻会好些,防守要差些
但恐怕还是没法说能跟prime shaq互爆. |
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J********i 发帖数: 50662 | 17 http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnkaUtE2Y5CRTFi7TnYOAOC8v
‘I’m about to retire’
BOSTON (AP)—Shaquille O’Neal, a 15-time All-Star who struggled to get on
the court last season because of injuries, tweeted on Wednesday that he is
going to retire after a 19-year career in which he won four titles and the
2000 league Most Valuable Player award.
O’Neal wrote on Twitter shortly before 2:45 p.m. that, “im retiring.” It
included a link to a 16-second video in which he says, “We did it; 19 years
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 18 Shaq还是因为他力量太强.
比如你们说他转身好,其实那是因为他把防守队员死死卡主,
然后Shaq还有余力变向.防守队员没有余力,所以无法及时变向.
结果总是出现Shaq转身就扣或者小勾手.
换我和小学生打,也能转身牛B.这是力量差距太大造成的. |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 19 如果主教练重点就是防守,那
让Shaq得分23左右,命中率50%左右肯定是可以的.
当然,蓝下需要包夹.
马刺当年就是这么干的.
你去查Shaq打马刺的统计,他还没Duncan数据好呢. |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 20 主席一来个子高,二来进攻强,能消耗Shaq体力.
我记得主席第三年就圣诞节灭Shaq了.
那时候主席还远没巅峰呢. |
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w********w 发帖数: 1550 | 21 3:17开始,版上的女同胞有这么厉害的嘛?shaq大概350磅
【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
发信人: MQMQ (rt), 信区: Basketball
标 题: can u believe it? shaq's gf, a 5-2 woman is able to pick up 7-2, 350-pound Shaquille O'Neal and walk
关键字: pfnd
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 3 00:09:23 2011, 美东)
shaq's girlfriend, a 5-2 woman is able to pick up 7-2, 350-pound Shaquille O
'Neal and walk him across a floor in high heels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zll6Bk_3kIc&feature=youtu.be
starting from 3:17 |
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K***n 发帖数: 92 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
【 原文由 Kawin 所发表 】
She said she's a Lakers fan so when she knew Shaq went away to Miami Heat,
she was so mad at him that she didn't want to meet him when she was in
Miami. She just felt Shaq was the major part of Lakers wins, and wanted to
kick him for the trade...
When Jay asked her "how about Kobe?" She paused for a long while and "en...
he's good but I like Shaq better...yeah!"
I think Kobe'll be pissed off by this. |
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z**i 发帖数: 5276 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
发信人: MQMQ (rt), 信区: Basketball
标 题: can u believe it? shaq's gf, a 5-2 woman is able to pick up 7-2, 350-pound Shaquille O'Neal and walk
关键字: pfnd
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 3 00:09:23 2011, 美东)
shaq's girlfriend, a 5-2 woman is able to pick up 7-2, 350-pound Shaquille O
'Neal and walk him across a floor in high heels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zll6Bk_3kIc&feature=youtu.be
starting from 3:17 |
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j***h 发帖数: 37 | 24 We should give shaq some credit. He was lazy during the regular
season, but he did work hard in the playoffs. When he dove for
the ball at mid-court during game 3 with SAS, it turned the whole
series around. But the problem is he is getting old, and his
"dominancy" is limited by foul troubles. Worst he eats up too
much salary that it is hard to get fresh blood.
From shaq's point view, even considering trading him, is unfair.
Which, to some extend, is justified, I think. After all, he
was the one |
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l******e 发帖数: 94 | 25 I'm new to this board, but an over 10 year NBA fan already.
In my opinion, what Shaq want is money, money, and money, since he already
got so many rings. So what Shaq claim is" Hi, you guys, who give me 30M/year,
I will bring you Champion", he knows he is already decling, but still deserve
30M in 1-2 years. The question is it's hard to find the one who can pay so
much for him.
Phil Jackson is undoubltely the greatest coach in NBA history, and his
strongest merit is to keep superstars tog |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 26 Kobe is naive, he's too nervous talking to police, dude,
you don't need to talk, that' lawyer's job.
Shaq ain't no innocent, where is your bravery like you boasting
affair with Cindy Crawford?
The media: offseason is too long and we need some controversy.
Better hype the feud now X'mas is not too far away.
Result: Shaq is motivated like never, he wants to win a ring without Kobe.
Contract year, isn't it?
Kobe is now No.1, does this dude need more motivation? No, the dude
just needs the freedom t |
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t*****e 发帖数: 2470 | 27 就算不是repeat也轮不到LBJ+Shaq
Shaq对于LBJ不会有太实质性的帮助,还不如一个老实蓝领来得强 |
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g******l 发帖数: 75 | 28 Shaq目前赢Kobe太多了 刚拿个冠军就开始吹了啊 Shaq几岁Kobe几岁 能比么 |
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 29 郎利除了中投可能比中后期的shaq强,还哪点能看出来技术比shaq好? |
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 30 除了罚球,这几个shaq哪个没有?
反过来,我没见过郎利做体前变向,没见过他在篮下有跟shaq相当的背打脚步动作 |
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m********r 发帖数: 2895 | 31 这个太乐观了----我这个姚蜜都觉得不可能
Shaq prime那几年真的是没法防的,包夹都夹不住 |
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c********g 发帖数: 3968 | 33 shaq轻松打姚是一定的
姚无包夹情况下打shaq也能打,命中率会相对低点但也是能稳定有效的打 |
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 34 学化学的,不过做点儿计算,你说的还能理解:D
我还是觉得yao的移动低,对于prime shaq这种bug级的中锋灵活性
太致命了
预判确实可以一定程度上弥补速度的差距
但当速度差到你如果不把中心放出去死命跟就肯定被一步过的时候
这个差距就没法弥补了
具体到shaq打yao,横向移动加上转身,yao就会相当被动了. |
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c********g 发帖数: 3968 | 35 这个因不因为shaq不好说,但受影响比较大的确实是shaq这类的中锋,连带着姚明也受
影响 |
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j**y 发帖数: 7014 | 36 那DH跟shaq比,基本就是在侮辱shaq
当然了,现在的中锋也就DH最强了 |
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p*a 发帖数: 3350 | 37 不要迷信shaq,shaq就是一加强版的glen davis |
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c*******s 发帖数: 735 | 38 问“what does this wmean to you, individually?”
答“I got one more than Shaq."
下面一个记者问你知不知道昨天shaq怎么说,他听了后想了想"That's ... nice.." |
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f*****e 发帖数: 1394 | 39 he got one more than shaq, but all the first 3 he got is mainly because of
Shaq. He said in the last "You guys know how I am, I won't forget anything"
shows his absolute low EQ, if he says something nice in the end, it could
be totally different. |
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l****8 发帖数: 1843 | 40 June 2008, Shaq: "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste?"
June 2010, Kobe: "I GOT ONE MORE THAN SHAQ." |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 41 他和奥拉据王,是仅有的没有对内第二稳定的分点也能夺冠的人。
有Duncan,或者有奥拉据王,和有Shaq完全不是一个概念。
Shaq吃亏在技术不全面。罚球和防守不是最顶级的。 |
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 42 国人一直把shaq叫做shark(鲨鱼).可是为什么很少(如果不是从未)见老美这么叫?shaq
有那么多外号,从来没见到shark是之一.
到底老美有没有曾经叫shark过?还是这个鲨鱼外号是国人自己杜撰的? |
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z*****o 发帖数: 5758 | 43 Shaq和科比之间的恩怨,终于了结了。
shaq的个人奖项应该比科比多一些吧 |
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h**********g 发帖数: 3962 | 44 基本属实。是一篇好文章。在这里补充一些历史。
Shaq是1992年的状元,被魔术选中。马上成为最具统治力的中锋之一。
被他扣坏的篮筐不计其数。因为他力大无比但罚球命中率很低,砍鲨
术就诞生了。
1993年,魔术居然没有搭上季后赛的末班车。小概率事件发生了。
魔术以最小的概率又拿到了状元签。他们用状元签选了Weber。随后
用Weber和金州勇士换得了便士哈达威(3rd pick)和其它好处。
1994年,魔术以50胜的战绩排名东部第四,迎战第五名步行者。他们
输掉了两个主场(共输3分)。最终被0-3横扫出第一轮。
1995年,实力雄厚的魔术队取得了57胜,包括主场39-2的战绩。他们
以东部第一的身份主场迎战绿人,第一场124-77大胜。并在波士顿
花园送绿人钓鱼。第二轮迎战公牛和身披45号的乔丹。在魔术以94-91
赢了第一场之后,魔术队的分卫砖头Anderson对媒体说#23会飞,#45扑
打翅膀飞不起来。乔老爷大怒,重新披上#23并赢了第二场。但是在第
六场的关键时刻,乔老爷被Anderson偷球,魔术以4-2过了第二轮。第
三轮魔术遇到了老冤家步行者,七场球都是主队赢。决赛遇到... 阅读全帖 |
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l****l 发帖数: 3394 | 45 Shaq刚刚在TNT上说了中国很多好话.Aaron Brooks在采访里也是.
Shaq是智慧与运动的完美结合阿.可惜退役了.还好在TNT还能每周看到他 |
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S**********y 发帖数: 1549 | 47 我觉得大部分wsn在互不相让的情况下,跑步游泳能赢shaq都算牛了 |
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f**********n 发帖数: 10757 | 48 之前Phil Jackson说过,他布置战术,Shaq就算不爽,嘴巴说说,还是会执行的,KB不
爽的,不说,场上就根本不执行,完全按自己的来。Shaq打球境界高Kobe几个档次 |
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f**********n 发帖数: 10757 | 49 你管好自己嘴巴就好,讨论就讨论,不要加一些乱七八糟的东西。
我列出数据,觉得Shaq第一个冠军是单核,就算跑火车?是不是都要认同你,Shaq后两
个冠军都是Kobe是老大才行啊?每场15分,36%的命中率,就保证了3场胜利了,也真是
欢乐。 |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 50 忘了shaq总绝次数多了。
Fmvp属于瞎扯淡的。最早是Kobe hater拿出来攻击kobe用的。因为shaq总决赛明显好。
但不同队的人,戒指算进去了,总决赛mvp就没必要重复算一次了。另外很多总决mvp是
战术打出来的。 |
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