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发帖数: 9485 | 1 约伯记38：4-7
4我立大地根基的时候，你在哪里呢？你若有聪明，只管说吧。
5你若晓得就说，是谁定地的尺度？是谁把准绳拉在其上？
6地的根基安置在何处？地的角石是谁安放的？
7那时晨星一同歌唱，神的众子也都欢呼。
耶利米书1：5
我未将你造在腹中，我已晓得你。你未出母胎，我已分别你为圣。
以弗所书1：4
就如神从创立世界以前，在基督里拣选了我们，使我们在他面前成为圣洁，无有瑕疵。
彼得前书1：19-20
19乃是凭着基督的宝血，如同无瑕疵无玷污的羔羊之血。
20基督在创世以前，是预先被神知道的，却在这末世，才为你们显现。
提摩太后书1：9
- Who hath saved us, and called [us] with an holy calling, not according to
our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in
Christ Jesus before the world began,
- 神救了我们，以圣召召我们，不是按我们的行为，乃是按他的旨意，和恩典。... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 2 九头蛇当反派不是一天两天了
说起来，九头蛇也是反派界的老资格了。
九头蛇（hydra）最早出自希腊神话，顾名思义，是一条好几个脑袋同一个身体的大蛇
。作为一只生活在勒尔涅沼泽的蛇怪，九头蛇有着高冷和傲娇并存的性格。主要体现在
，一个头是永生的，怎么也弄不死，十分高冷；而其它的每个头都会在被砍下后立即长
出两个新的，十分傲娇。后来赫拉克利斯为了完成十二壮举，无奈来挑战九头蛇。但是
蛇头砍完就长，让大力神十分头疼。后来赫拉克利斯的车夫心生一计，在大力神每砍下
一个蛇头时便用火灼烧伤口，新蛇头就长不出来了。至于那个死不了的高冷蛇头，赫拉
克利斯就直接把它埋在土里，成功完成了任务。
事后，赫拉克里斯表示，面对这种不按套路出牌的无赖蛇怪，还是要靠老司机（车夫）！
忙碌的赫拉克利斯和老司机
虽然挂了，但是九头蛇的形象十分深入人心，几千年来各种文学形象层出不穷。到了20
世纪，龙与地下城体系也吸收了这个形象。之后，九头蛇就跟着龙与地下城系列衍生至
各种游戏之中，如著名的《英雄无敌》系列和《魔兽世界》。不过在不同的作品中，九
头蛇的造型也略有变化。除了数不清的脑袋，还有时隐时现的四肢。不过好在无论在什... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4445 | 3
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室
里
我是看了《The Name of the Rose》还不罢休，一口气把他的另外两本小说《Foucault’
s Pendulum》、《Island of the Day Before》也看了。《Foucault’s Pendulum》是拿
神秘主义开涮的。里面经常有诸如下列的witty remarks：“Of course the seasons are
represented by the coiling of a serpent, because it's hard to represent the
seasons by the coiling of a hippopotamus.”，，一不小心笑得肚子疼。
怎么评论《The Name of the Rose》呢？最强烈的印象是旁证博引的水平。他老人家最大
的一个特点：不引用八国文字（全是原文）不罢休。不过引的确实实有水平啊！从此以后
看关于中世纪历史、社会的书还经常有“在那里似曾相识”的感觉。
可能因为我不是八岁看的，恐怖是没觉得。书中主要两个主题：理性versus迷信和笑声ve
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发帖数: 144 | 4 But not in Lord Henry, I hope? :) He was so much like the serpent in Eden...
whenever I found myself agreeing with him I had to force myself think twice,
and thus had a really shocking experience reading through the first two
chapters. :) And after thinking it all over I felt Wilde was all against Lord
Henry. Really.
我的专业paper都看不完，但是很想多读点书，可是每次捧起来，就想起我要写的paper. |
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发帖数: 278 | 5 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the sand; and he
had two horns like a lamb, but his mouth was fanged and
fiery as the dragon and his body shimmered and burned with
great heat while it did hiss like the serpent.
-Revised Orange Catholic Bible
He called himself The Preacher, and there had come to be
an awesome fear among many on Arrakis that he might be
Muad'Dib returned from the desert, not dead at all. Muad'Dib
could be alive; for who had seen his body? For that matter,
who saw a |
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发帖数: 754 | 6
Yes, because God even prepared redemption before the foundation
of the world.
Making the decision is up to man, but giving the warning is
up to God.
That serpent in the garden of Eden is actually Satan himself.
He was the archangle, full of glory, wisdom and beauty. However
he became so proud of himself and wanted to be equal to God.
That was his fall and he became Satan.
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发帖数: 9567 | 7 Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
Genesis 3:3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is
in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.'"
Genesis 3:4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
上帝不会拿一些谁也不知道的惩罚措施来警告亚当，那岂不是很没有意义？而且从以上
可以判断，亚当、撒旦都知道“die”是什么东西，所以要不创世纪的记载有问题，要
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发帖数: 9567 | 8 大家普遍认为撒旦是人类堕落的根源，因为就是他在神创世之初，诱惑亚当夏娃违背上
帝的训诫而吃了智慧果。昨天跟版上某位牛人讨论了一下撒旦是否篡改了上帝的诫命。
刚才又花了几分钟时间重新看了一下这一段经文，发现篡改之说纯属无稽之谈，相反，
撒旦在创世纪里是个讲真话的魔鬼。下面进行论证。
（以下经文引自NKJ）
上帝的训诫：
Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree
of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good
and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall
surely die."
撒旦是怎么说的：
Genesis 3:4-5 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.
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发帖数: 10694 | 9 撒旦是怎么说的：
Genesis 3:4-5 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.
For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and
you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
not surely是赤果果的假话。关于死，圣经上分灵的死和身体的死。这里是指灵上立刻
死和身体上注定死。这样你可能不难理解了。 |
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发帖数: 775 | 10 If the Bible is literally true, then something is seriously amiss. Simply
look at the facts. In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:
Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will
be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds,
and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks
him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give
him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to
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发帖数: 733 | 11 Your first sentence is WRONG.
There is no the concept " immortal soul " in the Bible. The Bible never
teaches it.
On the contrary, " immortal sou " is the deceit of Satan, when he told Eve:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die (Gen 3:4 )
If a christian believes immortal soul that cannot die, what does this
promise of eternal life from Jesus Christ mean?
Dear bro and Sis, please remember What Christ teaches us through Apostle
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发帖数: 1521 | 12 Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall accompany them that believe:
in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall
speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any
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发帖数: 1035 | 13 太 4:3 那试探人的进前来，对他说：“你若是 神的儿子，可以吩咐这些石头变成食
物。” 太 4:4 耶稣却回答说：“经上记着说：‘人活着，不是单靠食物，乃是靠 神
口里所出的一切话。’” 太 4:5 魔鬼就带他进了圣城，叫他站在殿顶上(“顶”原文
作“翅”)， 太 4:6 对他说：“你若是 神的儿子，可以跳下去，因为经上记着说：
‘主要为你吩咐他的使者，用手托着你，免得你的脚碰在石头上。’” 太 4:7 耶稣对
他说：“经上又记着说：‘不可试探主你的 神。’”
[The earliest manuscripts do not include 7:53–8:11.] [1]
The Woman Caught in Adultery
53 [[They went each to his own house, 8:1 but Jesus went to the Mount of
Olives. 2 Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people
came to him, and he sat down and... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 14 http://www.franknelte.net/Nelte_HTML/LUCIFER.htm
In the English version of the Bible the name "Lucifer" appears only one time
, in Isaiah 14:12. This verse reads:
"How are you fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning..." (Isaiah
14:12)
Now the word "Lucifer" is not an English word, but a LATIN word. And so the
question is:
WHO GAVE THE WORLD THIS LATIN NAME "LUCIFER"? AND WHY DID THEY GIVE US THIS
LATIN NAME?
HOW WE CAME TO HAVE THIS NAME "LUCIFER"
In 382 A.D. Pope Damasus commissioned ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 15 The Epic of Gilgamesh is an epic poem from Mesopotamia and is among the
earliest known works of literature. Scholars believe that it originated as a
series of Sumerian legends and poems about the protagonist of the story,
Gilgamesh king of Uruk, which were fashioned into a longer Akkadian epic
much later. The most complete version existing today is preserved on 12 clay
tablets from the library collection of 7th-century BC Assyrian king
Ashurbanipal. It was originally titled He who Saw the Deep (... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 16 CHAPTER IV
Of Creation
I. It pleased God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,[86] for the manifestation
of the glory of his eternal power, wisdom, and goodness,[87] in the beginni
ng, to create, or make of nothing, the world, and all things therein whether
visible or invisible, in the space of six days; and all very good.[88]
II. After God had made all other creatures, he created man, male and female,
[89] with reasonable and immortal souls,[90] endued with knowledge, righteou
sness, and true holine... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 596 | 17 http://www.npr.org/2011/08/09/138957812/evangelicals-question-t
Let's go back to the beginning — all the way to Adam and Eve, and to the
question: Did they exist, and did all of humanity descend from that single
pair?
According to the Bible (Genesis 2:7), this is how humanity began: "The Lord
God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the
breath of life; and man became a living soul." God then called the man Adam
, and later created Eve from Adam's rib.
Polls by Gal... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 18 Many denominational Christians and even church leaders are under the
mistaken belief that Jesus was a Jew. But nothing could be further from the
truth.
Judea and Galilee were two separate states and political entities, as
illustrated on the map of Palestine in the time of our Saviour in your Bible
. Jesus Himself was not a Jew (Judean) or resident of Judea, He was a
Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite
or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prom... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 19 CHAPTER XXV
Of the Church
I. The catholic or universal church, which is invisible, consists of the who
le number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one,
under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fullness of
him that filleth all in all.[490]
II. The visible church, which is also catholic or universal under the gospel
(not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all thos
e throughout the world that profess the true religion;[491... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 20 Chapter 2.2 Man’s State By Nature
We come therefore to Romans 5:12-21. In this great passage, grace is brought
into contrast with sin and the obedience of Christ is set against the
disobedience of Adam. It is placed at the beginning of the second section of
(Romans 5:12 to 8:39) with which we shall now be particularly concerned,
and its argument leads to a conclusion which lies at the foundation of our
further meditations. What is that conclusion? It is found in verse 19
already quoted: “For as ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 21 Chapter 2.2 Man’s State By Nature
We come therefore to Romans 5:12-21. In this great passage, grace is brought
into contrast with sin and the obedience of Christ is set against the
disobedience of Adam. It is placed at the beginning of the second section of
(Romans 5:12 to 8:39) with which we shall now be particularly concerned,
and its argument leads to a conclusion which lies at the foundation of our
further meditations. What is that conclusion? It is found in verse 19
already quoted: “For as ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 22
21. But now the righteousness of God without the law [109] is manifested,
being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
"
21. But now without the law, etc. It is not certain for what distinct reason
he calls that the righteousness of God, which we obtain by faith; whether
it be, because it can alone stand before God, or because the Lord in his
mercy confers it on us. As both interpretations are suitable, we contend for
neither. This righteousness then, which God communicates to man, and
accepts ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 23 Pagan traditions: Many Pagan cultures used to cut boughs of evergreen trees
in December, move them into the home or temple, and decorate them. Modern-
day Pagans still do. This was to recognize the winter solstice -- the time
of the year that had the shortest daylight hours, and longest night of the
year. This occurs annually sometime between DEC-20 to 23; most often, it is
DEC-21. As the solstice approached, they noticed that the days were
gradually getting shorter; many feared that the sun wou... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3920 | 24 多馬福音（39）--如果你想丟掉信仰就跟傳教士作朋友
耶穌說：「法利賽人與律法學家們已經接收了知識的鑰匙；但他們卻將其隱藏起來。他
們沒有進入，也不讓想進去的人進去。但你們要像蛇一樣狡猾，像鴿子一樣純真。」
Jesus said: The Pharisees and the scribes have receive the keys of knowledge
; they have hidden them. They did not go in, and those who wanted to go in
they did not allow. But you be ye wise as serpents and innocent as doves. |
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发帖数: 5754 | 25 thanks for the comments.
The verse doesn't state the motive. But here are some more commentaries on
verse 15, in addition to John Calvin's.
JFB Commentary:
"15. The man departed, and told, &c.—
little thinking how unwelcome his grateful and eager testimony would be.
"
Matthew Henry Commentary:
"
The notice which the poor simple man gave to the Jews concerning Christ, v.
15. He told them it was Jesus that had made him whole. We have reason to
think that he intended this for the honour of Christ a... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2737 | 26 这里的'人'在上下文看是复数。也就是说这里讨论的基督徒是以群体来说的。
看英文版就更明了。用的都是THEY, NOT HE.
[17] And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they
cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover. |
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发帖数: 25615 | 27
好，上 KJV
16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach
the gospel to every creature.
16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned.
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name
shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly
thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18304 | 28
说那个蛇是撒旦并无根据。
创世纪
3:14 耶和华神对蛇说，你既作了这事，就必受咒诅，比一切的牲畜野兽更甚。你必用
肚子行走，终身吃土。
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed
are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on
your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
这里的“蛇”是和“牲畜野兽”作比较。而且是“肚子行走”（crawl on your belly
）。
撒迦利亚
3:1 天使（原文作他）又指给我看，大祭司约书亚，站在耶和华的使者面前，撒但也站
在约书亚的右边，与他作对。
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the
LORD, and Satan standing at his rig... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18304 | 29
说那个蛇是撒旦并无根据。
创世纪
3:14 耶和华神对蛇说，你既作了这事，就必受咒诅，比一切的牲畜野兽更甚。你必用
肚子行走，终身吃土。
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed
are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on
your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
这里的“蛇”是和“牲畜野兽”作比较。而且是“肚子行走”（crawl on your belly
）。
撒迦利亚
3:1 天使（原文作他）又指给我看，大祭司约书亚，站在耶和华的使者面前，撒但也站
在约书亚的右边，与他作对。
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the
LORD, and Satan standing at his rig... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 801 | 30 创 世 纪 Genesis
关于吃智慧果这事，
耶和华说：
2:17 [hgb] 只 是 分 别 善 恶 树 上 的 果 子 ， 你 不 可 吃 ， 因 为 你 吃
的 日 子 必 定 死 。
[kjv] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not
eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
撒旦说：
3:4 [hgb] 蛇 对 女 人 说 ， 你 们 不 一 定 死 ，
[kjv] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
事实：
亚当, 夏娃并没有在“吃的日子”必定死，而是：
5:5 [hgb] 亚 当 共 活 了 九 百 三 十 岁 就 死 了 。
[kjv] And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18304 | 31 诚实是一种美德。请基们诚实地坦坦荡荡的回答：引诱亚当夏娃的那蛇是不是撒旦？我
论证了那蛇不是撒旦。请看完我的论证再表态：
说那个蛇是撒旦并无根据。
创世纪
3:14 耶和华神对蛇说，你既作了这事，就必受咒诅，比一切的牲畜野兽更甚。你必用
肚子行走，终身吃土。
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed
are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on
your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
这里的“蛇”是和“牲畜野兽”作比较。而且是“肚子行走”（crawl on your belly
）。
撒迦利亚
3:1 天使（原文作他）又指给我看，大祭司约书亚，站在耶和华的使者面前，撒但也站
在约书亚的右边，与他作对。
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standin... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18304 | 32 诚实是一种美德。请基们诚实地坦坦荡荡的回答：引诱亚当夏娃的那蛇是不是撒旦？我
论证了那蛇不是撒旦。请看完我的论证再表态：
说那个蛇是撒旦并无根据。
创世纪
3:14 耶和华神对蛇说，你既作了这事，就必受咒诅，比一切的牲畜野兽更甚。你必用
肚子行走，终身吃土。
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed
are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on
your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
这里的“蛇”是和“牲畜野兽”作比较。而且是“肚子行走”（crawl on your belly
）。
撒迦利亚
3:1 天使（原文作他）又指给我看，大祭司约书亚，站在耶和华的使者面前，撒但也站
在约书亚的右边，与他作对。
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standin... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 33 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 所有这些翻译的希腊希伯来原本都差不多。但是对具体文字的翻译是很重要的。
Genesis 3(NWT2013)
3 Now the serpent+ was the most cautious* of all the wild animals of the
field that Jehovah God had made.
这里的cautious在*后有两个“同义词”：shrewd, crafty.你可以看到cautious跟这两
个词的意思差别很大，cautious很容易让人理解为蛇很谨慎，但是这里的意思是蛇很狡
猾。
我认为跟其他主流的圣经版本(ESV,NET,Catholic bible)比较后，我认为没有理由说
NWT的版本比其他版本更准确。
我知道你说的意思。显然所有人都希望得到圣经真实的意义。我认为这不是简单的事，
所有现有的理论都有很强的证据。但是不是说把所有的东西加到一起，包括所有东西的
结论就是对的呢？这些都需要很仔细的讨论。而且也没有迹象显示耶证的教义就比其他
的更有说服力。我认为仔细讨论这些教义是如何得出的，并对照多个圣经译本，还是有
必要的。
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 34 Rev. 20:2
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and
bound him for a thousand years. |
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w*****u
发帖数: 756 | 35
撒旦是一条“serpent”，这并不等于说所有的蛇类都是撒旦。这是一个简单的逻辑问
题。
基们的智力真让人着急。 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 36 Rev. 20:2
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and
bound him for a thousand years. |
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w*****u
发帖数: 756 | 37
撒旦是一条“serpent”，这并不等于说所有的蛇类都是撒旦。这是一个简单的逻辑问
题。
基们的智力真让人着急。 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 38 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 《约伯记》 Job 1:1 the land of Uz. The location of this land to the east is unknown,
but it may be related to Aram in the north (Gen. 10:22–23), where Abraham’
s nephew and family lived (Gen. 22:21), or to a descendant of Seir who lived
alongside the sons of Esau in the land also referred to as Edom (Gen. 36:28
). The faithfulness of Job is stated at the outset (and affirmed again in
Job 1:8; 2:3): he is blameless and upright (a phrase also used in reference
to Noah in Gen. 6:9 and to Abraham in Gen. 17:1)... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1397 | 39 Category 4: Jesus’ vituperative verbal explosions and calls for violence.
The most frequently quoted biblical passage in the vituperative words
category is Matthew, chapter 23. Nearly all 39 verses of Matthew 23 are
devoted to an ―upbraiding,before a general multitude, all the scribes and
Pharisees. He calls them hypocrites,blind guides, fools, whited sepulchres,
serpents,and a generation of vipers. One gets the idea pretty clearly that
he
doesn‘t like them.
In the area of calls for violence is ... 阅读全帖 |
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s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 40 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 弄蛇牧师 Mark 16:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they
cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall
not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. |
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m******t
发帖数: 1171 | 41 腓尼基文没有象形？
睁开你的鸡眼看看 tooth, serpent, eye的腓尼基文。 |
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m******t
发帖数: 1171 | 42 Mark 16:18 English Revised Version
they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in
no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
馬可福音 16:18
17信的人必有神蹟隨著他們，就是：奉我的名趕鬼；說新方言； 18手能拿蛇；若喝了
什麼毒物，也必不受害；手按病人，病人就必好了。」
这些超能力,你获得了没有?
看了完整电影的大师们可不可以告诉我们:
1. 这段台词的有效期大致是哪年到哪年? 或者哪个时期到哪个时期?
2. 或者如何判定某个时段是否在这段台词的有效期里?
3. 这段台词的有效人物是哪些？或者如何界定一个人是不是这段台词的有效人物?
免得我们不明白，跑去拿蛇测试。 |
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b*****n
发帖数: 4976 | 43
======================
这位小伙子是否不懂英文？
你看过英文版的措词未有？
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe
will be condemned. These signs will accompany those who believe: in my name
they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up
serpents [with their hands], and if they drink any deadly thing, it will
not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
为甚么去到你到，
will, shall.....都变成必,必,必,必,必 （一定会发生的意思）
语文程度低的确是可以影响经文理解。 |
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z********o
发帖数: 18304 | 44
基们常说那条会说话的蛇就是撒旦。我们论证这个说法不符合“圣经”！
创世纪
3:14 耶和华神对蛇说，你既作了这事，就必受咒诅，比一切的牲畜野兽更甚。你必用
肚子行走，终身吃土。
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed
are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on
your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
这里的“蛇”是和“牲畜野兽”作比较。而且是“肚子行走”（crawl on your belly
）。
撒迦利亚
3:1 天使（原文作他）又指给我看，大祭司约书亚，站在耶和华的使者面前，撒但也站
在约书亚的右边，与他作对。
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the
LORD, and Satan... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 45 Months after snake-handling preacher's death, his son recovering from
snakebite
Snake-handling preacher Cody Coots got scared when the 6-foot long rattler
bit his right hand early Monday.
Just three months ago, his father, Jamie Coots, died within minutes of being
bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at his Middlesboro church.
The loss was still fresh for his family and friends, and Cody Coots, who
took over for his father, had just been bitten by an even bigger rattler.
At first, "All I cou... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 47 | 46 And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they
cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues; 18they shall take up
serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
这是ASV的译本。最接近原文。
神迹SIGNS会伴随信的人，比如医治病人。
这个预言已经应验了。
耶稣没有要求每个信徒都可以行神迹的。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 47 谢谢你上网还Google了一下，this is a good start to awake :) 我上两条留言中除
了Horus之外还提了很多内容，你可以也都Google一下，了解了解，别全ignore，确实
需要了解的背景知识实在太多了，虽然这么多知识会有些overwhelming。
好了说到Horus，他的一个“形象”刻画出来是鹰，鸟，古时还有很多Gods被刻画成蛇
，蜥蜴，包括圣经中蛇的比喻，包括现在咱们医疗的标志Caduceus，包括很多教堂建筑
物上的gargoyle，建议你都Google一下，再Google一下serpent gods这个词，包括古埃
及的雕刻，为什么都要用这些动物的形象来代表？为什么现在社会和教堂还要用这些标
记？原因会让你太震惊。Jesus长什么样really doesn't matter，他只是这些之前的
gods的一个拟人化的比喻。建议你再搜搜Dionysus，Mithra，Chrishna，Salivahana，
Osiris，Budha Sakia，Odin…这些也都是Jesus的原型，Jesus的灵感来自于太多的“
救世主”，Horus只是其中... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****n
发帖数: 4976 | 48
建议你都Google一下，再Google一下serpent gods这个词，包括古埃
及的雕刻，为什么都要用这些动物的形象来代表？
＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
我都給你以下建議：
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建议你们先不
要100%相信網上來的東西，先搞清楚到底是谁背后在control着这些媒体，
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和
－－－－－－－－－－－－－
建议你也别完全依赖于互联网，
虽然信息很多，但得自己筛选，
先简单读几本书，
－－－－－－－－－－－－－
也有問你讀過那本書是耶穌抄自古代神話？
看看你讀的又是否與我讀的同是那一本！ |
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b*****n
发帖数: 4976 | 49
好了说到Horus，他的一个“形象”刻画出来是鹰，鸟，古时还有很多Gods被刻画成蛇
，蜥蜴，包括圣经中蛇的比喻，包括现在咱们医疗的标志Caduceus，包括很多教堂建筑
物上的gargoyle，建议你都Google一下，再Google一下serpent gods这个词，包括古埃
及的雕刻，为什么都要用这些动物的形象来代表？为什么现在社会和教堂还要用这些标
＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
就看你一輪的 goo..goo...gle gle
都知你所有的料， 都是網上的東西囉。
網上不是没有好東西，
不過還是要用點智慧來消化。
你在這方面欠缺了智慧。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 50 谢谢你上网还Google了一下，this is a good start to awake :) 我上两条留言中除
了Horus之外还提了很多内容，你可以也都Google一下，了解了解，别全ignore，确实
需要了解的背景知识实在太多了，虽然这么多知识会有些overwhelming。
好了说到Horus，他的一个“形象”刻画出来是鹰，鸟，古时还有很多Gods被刻画成蛇
，蜥蜴，包括圣经中蛇的比喻，包括现在咱们医疗的标志Caduceus，包括很多教堂建筑
物上的gargoyle，建议你都Google一下，再Google一下serpent gods这个词，包括古埃
及的雕刻，为什么都要用这些动物的形象来代表？为什么现在社会和教堂还要用这些标
记？原因会让你太震惊。Jesus长什么样really doesn't matter，他只是这些之前的
gods的一个拟人化的比喻。建议你再搜搜Dionysus，Mithra，Chrishna，Salivahana，
Osiris，Budha Sakia，Odin…这些也都是Jesus的原型，Jesus的灵感来自于太多的“
救世主”，Horus只是其中... 阅读全帖 |
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