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B**c
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来自主题: Military版 - WSN 又出名了
http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-31/news/29836200_1_lottery-t
Savvy players Yuran Lu, a 28-year-old MIT graduate who majored in electrical
engineering, computer science, and math, seems far removed from the blue-
collar image of a lottery player. This year’s second-leading Cash WinFall
winner - his Random Strategies Investments has cashed in more than 500
winning tickets worth a total of $765,168 so far
。。。
Only once in the history of Cash WinFall did Kon’s calculations not apply.
During a rol... 阅读全帖
j******a
发帖数: 1582
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世上的事,会者不难、难者不会
估计未名上很多人都是计算机savvy的那种
所以觉得操作电脑多简单个事
苹果的那些应用发明不过是锦上添花,没有也不影响使用
但对不少人来说
操作电脑是件挺难的事情
有了苹果的那些应用发明,大大降低了他们使用电脑的门槛
所以其实不是人们越来越懒or傻
而是苹果的那些应用发明满足了很多懒or傻的人的需要
使得那些懒or傻的人也加入到使用电脑的行列中来了
不是那块大饼空心了,而是大饼变大了,但增加的那部分密度不如原来的部分而已
没有照相机之前
要留住某个画面
只能靠画家
但有了照相机之后
满足了那些不会画画的人留住某个画面的需要
所以有能力留住某个画面的人更多了
但估计会有人感叹有能力留住某个画面的人的整体艺术修养下降了
M*****8
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TREATMENT FOR DYSENTERY
The bacillus subtilis was discovered by the Nazi German medical corps in
1941, toward the end of their African campaign. At the time, the German
military victory was at its height. But the German high command became
genuinely alarmed when hundreds upon hundreds of soldiers in North Africa
suddenly began dying every week. Oddly, the Nazi soldiers weren't dying
because of British General Montgomery's retaliatory bombs and shrapnel, but
instead, they were dying of uncontroll... 阅读全帖
M*****8
发帖数: 17722
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业没有被垄断, 所以价格便宜的多, 医药集团的利润也就少的多。
..................................
政府应该免费或廉价提供老百姓各种有益肠胃菌。
每天吃一次,肯定能省不少医疗费用。但不肯做。
米国政府不做,可以理解,因为是被医疗业垄断。
并且米国人有钱,经得起医和药业的剥削和折腾。
其中一个特别有好处的就是 Bacillus Subtilis。
这是元首的德国的科学家发现的一种有益肠胃菌。
70 年前元首的德国就能量产并且把活细菌胶囊化,
不知道今天中国的量产技术跟元首的德国比如何?
The bacillus subtilis was discovered by the Nazi German medical corps in
1941, toward the end of their African campaign. At the time, the German
military victory was at its height. But the German high command became
genuinely alarmed w... 阅读全帖
g**1
发帖数: 10330
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/opinion/to-save-our-economy-d
To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan
By PAUL V. KANE
Published: November 10, 2011
WITH a single bold act, President Obama could correct the country’s course,
help assure his re-election, and preserve our children’s future.
He needs to redefine America’s mindset about national security away from
the old defense mentality that American power derives predominantly from our
military might, rather than from the strength, agility and competi... 阅读全帖
u***r
发帖数: 4825
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来自主题: Military版 - 【WSJ】Web Takes Star Turn in China
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020373530457716650
BEIJING—Government restrictions are driving young Chinese to turn off their
TV sets and turn on their computers. Advertisers and Western studios are
right there with them.
China's streaming-video sites once were derided by the global entertainment
industry as homes of stolen movies and television shows. But many sites have
cracked down on piracy and are offering original programming, as well as
licensed Western movies and TV shows s... 阅读全帖
y**o
发帖数: 8897
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来自主题: Military版 - 知性 这个词怎么翻译成英语?
sex savvy
x****u
发帖数: 12955
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Oh, right. The politically ultra savvy Bo, would use up precious political
capital to destroy a star he helped to create himself, and the best tool in
his disposal, just because that star wants a raise of sort.
You want us to believe Wang would propose the request in a way that leave Bo
no choice but to eliminate him, or that Bo would be so inept that he doesn'
t know how to reject/placid a subordinate without scaring him into
attempting to defect?
And you think you are the smart one?
w***f
发帖数: 20
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Small-Stick Diplomacy in the South China Sea
南中国海的“小棒”外交
James Holmes, Toshi Yoshihara
April 23, 2012
原文链接:http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/small-stick-diplomacy-the-south-china-sea-6831
大概因为家庭背景,我本人相对来说比较关心国外学术界对中国海上力量的分析,
相对于国内一帮到处打打杀杀的喊声,痛斥TG卖国,国外一般分析都是中国这次做的很
聪明,我也想尽我之力,多翻译一些这类的文章,让大家多看看一些比较深度的事件分
析,不过因为这类文章都比较长,我的英语只能说是一般,时间也没有那么多,只能是
尽力而为了。
关于作者
James Holms是美国海军战争学院(U.S. Naval War College)战略学副教授,
Toshi Yoshihara(看名字是个日本佬)为亚太问题the John A. van Beuren研究员,
他们是大西洋月刊2010年度最佳图书Red Star over... 阅读全帖
S*********y
发帖数: 481
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James Holmes: Colorado Shooting Suspect Had Few Digital Fingerprints
By JOANNA STERN | ABC News
Since the tragedy in Colorado, authorities, news organizations, and people
around the country have been trying to find out all they could about the
suspected shooter -- James Holmes.
A logical place to look was online. However, one thing became apparent early
on: Holmes has very few digital footprints.
No Facebook account. No Twitter account. Not even a mention of him in an
article or Google search. N... 阅读全帖
d*******l
发帖数: 2567
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来自主题: Military版 - 德州仪器正式宣布退出手机业务
TI还是很business savvy,这60年TI就一直没出半导体前10名,PC热的时
候就退出PC市场,后来也活得挺好
c****h
发帖数: 4968
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看了纽约时报的这篇blog后得感触。文中还提到那些所谓的政庇难民,都在利用陈争取
曝光度以获得financing.还举了那个Bob Fu为例子。
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/world/asia/after-epic-escape-
After Epic Escape From China, Exile Is Mired in Partisan U.S.
“But Mr. Chen’s political savvy has not translated well in the complex and
fiercely partisan terrain he has encountered in the United States. Even
before he could recover from jet lag in May 2012, Mr. Chen was besieged by
human rights activists, opponents of abortion and an array of politicians
from ... 阅读全帖
s********s
发帖数: 259
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【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: sixdegrees (savvy woman wanna be), 信区: Stock
标 题: 我有一办法,可让请愿上百万
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 27 01:04:39 2013, 美东)
中国人优势是什么?人多!
北美华人太少。要把国内利用起来,轻松请愿过百万
可以去百度李毅吧号召一下。
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%C0%EE%D2%E3&fr=ala0
百度李毅吧,也叫帝吧、D吧、D8。有百度卢浮宫之称,人气最旺盛的贴吧。其会员名
称为“毅丝不挂”由戏谑产生,绝非“李毅的粉丝”。
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2663447/AllEyesOnIsis-S
'We love you ISIS': From USA to Rome to Australia - disturbing notes from
EVERY continent show support for Islamist Jihadis terrorising Iraq after
group's Twitter charm offensive
Members of the Sunni militant group vow to 'spread the truth' in storm that
cannot be moderated or blocked
Using specific hash tag, they will answer questions, lambast allegations,
and promote the extremist group's actions
Last night, President Barack Obama... 阅读全帖
w***u
发帖数: 17713
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美国人应该震惊:广东话大妈都是狂热的tech-savvy
h**z
发帖数: 9751
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1. They are modern day Renaissance men.
They can usually either sing, play an instrument and/or beatbox…
and win all the dance competitions…
From tennis to basketball to golf, they are also very athletic in a wide-
range of sports.
On top of that, they can usually speak/understand/write in [fill in
complicated Asian language]
2. Passive? Weak? Think again!
They are raised by the most vicious, cut-throat people in the world- the old
Asian woman.
Passive? Weak? Think again!
3. Being super famous o... 阅读全帖
n*******4
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yes。But in the movie, the Bunker Hill College professor is much more savvy
than the MIT one. Strange logic.
s*****r
发帖数: 43070
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: MadDaemon (瘋一樣的男子), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 湾区单身男性还不赶快申请!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 28 22:26:36 2014, 美东)
发信人: sixdegrees (savvy woman wanna be), 信区: Joke
标 题: 精英级女生找IQ极高的有头脑的中国精英bf(ZT)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 28 18:03:14 2014, 美东)
http://www.jiaoyou8.com/friends_info?action=user_info&login_id=
1 我天生丽质,GOODLOOKING,瓜子脸大眼睛双眼皮嘴不大不小,要是脸很瘦就像
章子仪,很白,我不整容连妆都不化。身材好美腿宽肩但是比不上章子仪毕竟她是
跳舞的。我165cm,我老姐170cm,我本来就该长到170+2 very HIGH IQ ,老爸当
年是清华级别的中国精英级学生。我们家是学理工科的。但是我是智商和学历很不
一致的极... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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我看习core走的是相反的路线。
你看看陈光标、徐昕在美国的所作所为就能明白一二。我觉得这些活动背后的目的是在
煽动红脖闹革命。哈哈
China and the Jews
Posted by Lasha Darkmoon on December 10, 2014
Are the Jews trying to take over China? If so, how come the Chinese are now
studying Jewish texts looking for hot tips on how to take over America?
Part 1 : On Domination Games
A new article by Kevin MacDonald on China is well worth reading. The article
be1gins with these words: “Tablet [magazine] has an article reflecting
Jewish angst over the possibility that th... 阅读全帖
h******t
发帖数: 872
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国人与犹太 ZT
中国人与犹太人的较量
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/685434.html
China and the Jews
Posted by Lasha Darkmoon on December 10, 2014
Are the Jews trying to take over China? If so, how come the Chinese are now
studying Jewish texts looking for hot tips on how to take over America?
Part 1 : On Domination Games
A new article by Kevin MacDonald on China is well worth reading. The article
be1gins with these words: “Tablet [magazine] has an article reflecting
Jewish angst over the possibility that the Chin... 阅读全帖
g*q
发帖数: 26623
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来自主题: Military版 - 赶快查一下你的SSN是否被泄露了
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — By posting online all of his personal email from
his eight years as Florida's governor, Jeb Bush sought to show himself as a
tech-savvy executive, in touch with constituents and an active administrator.
But tucked away in a small percentage of those hundreds of thousands of
messages were the names, birthdates and Social Security numbers — the three
pieces of information key to identity theft — of more than 12,000 people,
according to an independent firm.
Bush's attempt to... 阅读全帖
w***t
发帖数: 8175
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来自主题: Military版 - 30岁退休,周游世界
Over the course of 12 years at Microsoft, Jeremy's salary went from $85,000
to $140,000. Winnie stopped working when the couple got married five years
ago. When the financial crisis hit, they lost $400,000 on paper. But money-
savvy Jeremy rode out the stock market, continued to work, and even bought
more stock. Two years later, the couple had saved around $1 million to fund
their lifestyle, and budgeted about $40,000-$45,000 a year on living
expenses. (Check out a full breakdown of their financ... 阅读全帖
a*****a
发帖数: 777
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还是用手拍,但是手机app做信号处理,判断生熟
以往单纯手拍适用于比较savvy的拍瓜男,有了app,用专家系统识别拍瓜声学数据,做
出精准判断,这样毫无拍瓜经验的锁男锁女们都可以轻松拍瓜啦
k**********4
发帖数: 16092
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来自主题: Military版 - 陕西的面食
i seriously doubt if she is savvy enough to
do all of these, especially the last
part.
T**E
发帖数: 1892
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来自主题: Military版 - 白妞最看重的两条
老中就是太诚实了。
"If you cheat and fail, you're a cheater. If you cheat and succeed, you're
savvy."这是白人文化的精髓。
x****0
发帖数: 199
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你说的对头。要闹大,要找个合适案例。Vincent Chin是,这次不是。
连黑人闹民权都有公关考虑,当时坐车被抓不少,专门找个能煽动人的老太Rosa Parks
试法。
华人要politically savvy才能做大。
I*******g
发帖数: 7600
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【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: Huang90 (东方既白), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 【工作机会】Search Engine Evaluator (限美国地区)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 26 15:43:32 2016, 美东)
This position is restricted to residents of the United States that are
fluent in written and verbal Chinese Simplified.
Position Type: Independent Contractor
This is a Personalized Search Engine Evaluator position. As a Personalized
Search Engine Evaluator, you will be given tasks that are generated from
your personalized content based on your G... 阅读全帖
m**c
发帖数: 7349
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来自主题: Military版 - 奥巴马热爱科学
It's no secret Obama, who some have called the most tech-savvy president
since Thomas Jefferson, is a fan of gadgets and technology. In fact, the
president also referred to himself as a "science geek."
W*****B
发帖数: 4796
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来自主题: Military版 - 都有不错的工作,光鲜亮丽
都有不错的工作,光鲜亮丽。但是都喜欢跑步拉屎。上个月有个美国教育局长也被抓了
A corporate executive led a secret double life — as Australia’s ‘poo
jogger’
On the surface, Andrew Macintosh was a shining pillar of the Brisbane,
Australia, community. He served dutifully on the city council’s inclusive
board, which made recommendations about how the city should grow. And he was
a national quality manager for Aveo, which owns retirement communities
along the country’s coasts.
But in an unflattering picture snapped on a public sidewalk in ... 阅读全帖
c****h
发帖数: 4968
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以前运营商直销的都是很便宜的中国手机。这次One Plus算是真正的mid-rang to high
-end,$600上下。
https://www.cnet.com/news/oneplus-6t-will-launch-in-october-with-t-mobile-as
-us-partner/
OnePlus 6T will launch with T-Mobile, the first US carrier partner
For the phone-savvy, OnePlus represents an alternative to the $1,000 super
premium smartphones offered by Samsung (Galaxy Note 9) and Apple (iPhone X).
Its rise in popularity coincides with the decline of older stalwarts like
HTC and LG.
w********2
发帖数: 632
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McKinley Conway, 1920-2011:
Last Flight Home in a Landmark Life
ONLINE INSIDER
McKinley Conway
by JACK LYNE
T
his Mac Conway fellow, you might be wondering, now just who was he again?
Yeah, he's the guy who started Site Selection 'n all, but did he ever do
anything else? I'm kinda in a hurry here, pal. So just tell me who this dude
was like.
Oh, hell, Mac Conway wasn't like anybody. He never followed anyone's
footsteps; he couldn't really. He was too restless a spirit, too hell-bent
on slashing ... 阅读全帖
b*********3
发帖数: 1709
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来自主题: Military版 - 反全民医疗的全是智障
We pay through premiums and deductibles now, and then we have to fight with
the insurers to actually provide coverage
I think there is a compelling case to be made against the insurance
companies as profiteering middlemen.
But Warren has shown she doesn’t have the messaging skills or savvy to make
that case
b*********3
发帖数: 1709
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来自主题: Military版 - 反全民医疗的全是智障
We pay through premiums and deductibles now, and then we have to fight with
the insurers to actually provide coverage
I think there is a compelling case to be made against the insurance
companies as profiteering middlemen.
But Warren has shown she doesn’t have the messaging skills or savvy to make
that case

发帖数: 1
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鳖国打游戏要实名注册的,至少有60%的小学生不够tech savvy绕开实名注册。
实名注册了游戏里设个timer就解决了。


: 这个怎么执行呢,是由家长执行还是游戏公司,又或者是学校

w***x
发帖数: 1763
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Hong Kong mob protesters rule the streets
HEDLEY THOMAS
NATIONAL CHIEF CORRESPONDENTin HONG KONG
12:00AM NOVEMBER 19, 2019
On the streets and in the grounds of their university near the harbourfront
on the Kowloon side of Hong Kong, masked students draw powerful bows and
fire sharpened arrows at police and -civilians with reckless abandon.
They fill drums with petrol and loot dangerous chemicals from the Hong Kong
Polytechnic Univer-sity’s science laboratories to create highly flammable
weapons ... 阅读全帖
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 洪博培宣布竞选总统
Probably only the very moderate Republicans, most of whom live in the
northeast, are open-minded enough to select a Mornon as their presidential
candidate. Nationwide, Republicans lost their collective cool and political
savvy this time.

ROMNEY
的。
g********d
发帖数: 4174
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Dale Carpenter Guest
Posted Thursday, August 18th, 2011 1:57 pm
Perry as Politics
Dale Carpenter, Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota Law School,
considers the political costs of litigating same-sex marriage state by state
, starting with California’s Proposition 8.
The following contribution to our same-sex marriage symposium is written by
Dale Carpenter. Professor Carpenter teaches constitutional law, the First
Amendment, and sexual orientation and the law at the University of Minn... 阅读全帖
m******1
发帖数: 19713
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Op-ed: It’s Time to Win in Maine
The national campaign director at Freedom to Marry is opposed to voting on
the rights of any minority group. But when it comes to Maine, he explains
why he supports activists’ ballot initiative.
By Marc Solomon, op-ed contributor
JAY AND JOHN STRAUSS-WILLIAMS MARRIED IN NEW YORK 390x (GETTY) ADVOCATE.COM
As early as 1840, Maine was seen as an electoral bellwether for the country.
“As goes Maine, so goes the nation,” the adage went.
Today, just a short while ago... 阅读全帖
i*********8
发帖数: 3229
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: ahoyleo (profever天堂门), 信区: Military
标 题: UCLA的中国讲座真是狠狠地打果粉的脸啊
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 28 22:58:13 2010, 美东)
第12集1 Resist Japan, 1937-1945里,Baum几乎是控诉地把国民党描述成一个倒行逆
施,消极抗日的政权.
他说国民党的策略就是通过宋美龄的交际能力以及蒋介石外交上两面派的作风牢牢拉拢
美国支持(老头说Chiang and his media savvy wife were ultimately busy
seducing and blackmailing Washington),在正面战场上则对日本进行了“minimal”
的抵抗,同时还在背后对真正抗日的共产党新四军采取背后捅刀子的惨无人道的暴行,
另外不忘大发国难财,战争财。相反,共产党在敌后最大程度低通过统一战线动员了广
大的抗日力量,是真正的民主,健康,没有腐败的政权。美国当时搞了一个Dixie
Mission去延安观察共产党,他们
e*****e
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来自主题: USANews版 - 读后感
What about those people who got laid off? They were able to pay their
mortgage had they had a job. There were a small portion of people who did
take out a mortgage beyond their means. However, a lot of these people were
not very savvy in finance matters. It was the lending policy's fault, which
allowed them to take out those loans.
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press – Mon May 30, 11:54 am ET
WASHINGTON – In the first presidential election since the tea party's
emergence, Republican candidates are drifting rightward on a range of issues
, even though more centrist stands might play well in the 2012 general
election.
On energy, taxes, health care and other topics, the top candidates hold
positions that are more conservative than those they espoused a few years
ago.
The shifts reflect the evolving views of conservative vo... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Monday, 09 Jan 2012 08:07 PM
WASHINGTON — Jack Lew is the model Washington insider — a savvy and cool
policy technocrat with roots in Congress and a long and impressive
administration resume. He is as low key as Rahm Emanuel, one of his
predecessors as White House chief of staff, is high octane.
In choosing Lew to run his White House, President Barack Obama on Monday
completed an arc of chiefs of staff, from the fiery Emanuel and his grasp of
legislative intrigue, to William Daley and his ties t... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Mark Steyn is unmasking the idiot memes we're told are important by Obama's
supporters:
AxelrodA couple of days ago, Obama campaign top dog David Axelrod threw
in the towel on the dog war. "I thought it was a little absurd to talk about
what the President had done as a 10-year-old boy," he sniffed to MSNBC's
Andrea Mitchell, which is as near as the suddenly sheepish attack dog will
ever get to conceding that Barack Obama is the first dog-eating president in
the history of the Republic. For t... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Cuisines from My Stepfather
By Mark Steyn
April 28, 2012 4:00 A.M.
A couple of days ago, Obama-campaign top dog David Axelrod threw in the
towel on the dog war. “I thought it was a little absurd to talk about what
the president had done as a ten-year-old boy,” he sniffed to MSNBC’s
Andrea Mitchell, which is as near as the suddenly sheepish attack dog will
ever get to conceding that Barack Obama is the first dog-eating president in
the history of the republic. For those coming late to the feud, t... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - Rock-N-Roller Confronted With Capitalism
June 1, 2012 by Warner Todd Huston
Jack White recently of the band The White Stripes has realized something
important, capitalism works. At least it works when properly approached and
with the release of several special vinyl albums he is trying to do it right
, much to the consternation of some of his cheapskate fans.
As it happens, Mr. White is part of Third Man Records label, a company that
produces special pressings on vinyl for the collectors market. But, seeing
as how they are both limite... 阅读全帖
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yeye,blabla......
We people also select congress and senate. Yet their approval rating is
close to single digit. We still complain when elected officers corrupt.
Do I say that board members are not selected by shareholders? you mean when
we select board members and board members waste our money. We should shut up
and look other way.
Oh you could say you should not invest those companies. But do we middle
class have times to look over thousands companies to select a few good one.
The answer is th... 阅读全帖
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这个好像瘸子走路怪地不平。我就不说我的观点了。看看格林斯潘怎么说的
In March 2008, Greenspan wrote an article for the Financial Times'
Economists' Forum in which he said that the 2008-financial crisis in the
United States is likely to be judged as the most wrenching since the end of
World War II. In it he argued: "We will never be able to anticipate all
discontinuities in financial markets." He concluded: "It is important,
indeed crucial, that any reforms in, and adjustments to, the structure of
markets and regulation not inhibi... 阅读全帖
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Big three's profits come from energy-unfriendly segment products such as
high powered sedans, SUV, and trucks, while Toyota & Honda focused on energy
-savvy products. When the oil price went up, Detroit went busted without
questions.
Btw, GM's CEO Wagner was awarded 15M in 2007 while GM had been losing money
for years. How he deserved that?
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http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/24/news/economy/rich-vote-more/ind
在2008年,收入高于10万的投票率为80%,而收入低于2万的投票率为52%。这对Romeny
是个好消息呀。看来那47%确实不重要。
不过这篇文章把Middle Class 定义为Household 收入为 $48000 to $120000之间。
看来广大北美萎缩男女们大都为Upper Class。
看了一下俺们乡的收入数据,大多住户也在这个Upper Class里。
可俺们没觉得过着Upper Class的生活呀。
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- It's well established that the richer you are, the
more likely you are to vote.
But why aren't the less well-off turning out at the polls?
Are you better off?
In the 2008 presidential election, 80% of... 阅读全帖
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Gun and ammo sales predicted to skyrocket in wake of Obama’s re-election
OKLAHOMA CITY – The morning after President Barack Obama was re-elected,
business appeared to be pretty normal at the very popular and successful H&H
Shooting Sports, with customers looking at handguns and folks getting
something to eat at H&H’s 4U Cafe.But after talking to H&H owner Miles Hall
(he has operated H&H with his wife Jayne for more than 30 years), that
normal mood will likely change to exceedingly busy as people... 阅读全帖
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