l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 1 Chapter 3.2 The First Step: “Knowing This...”
The normal Christian life must begin with a very definite ‘knowing’, which
is not just knowing something about the truth nor understanding some
important doctrine. It is not intellectual knowledge at all, but an opening
of the eyes of the heart to see what we have in Christ.
How do you know your sins are forgiven? Is it because your pastor told you
so? No, you just know it. If I ask you how you know, you simply answer, ‘I
know it!’ Such knowledge com... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 2 chapter 8.4 The Spirit Indwelling
We move on now to the second aspect of the gift of the Holy Spirit, which,
as we shall see in our next chapter, is more particularly the subject of
Romans 8. It is that which we have spoken of as the Spirit indwelling. “If
so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you...” (Romans 8:9). As with the
Spirit outpoured, so with the Spirit indwelling, if we are to know in
experience that which is ours in fact, our first need is of Divine
revelation. When we see Christ ... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 3 chapter 8.6 The Absolute Lordship Of Christ
“Know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have from God? and ye are not your own; for ye were bought with a
price: glorify God therefore in your body” (1 Cor. 6:19, 20).
This verse now takes us a stage further, for, when once we have made the
discovery of the fact that we are the dwelling place of God, then a full
surrender of ourselves to God must follow. When we see that we are the
temple of God we shall imm... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 4 chapter 12.3
Natural Energy In The Work Of God
The power, the energy of the soul is present with us all. Those who have
been taught by the Lord repudiate that principle as a life principle; they
refuse to live by it; they will not let it reign, nor allow it to be the
power-spring of the work of God. But those who have not been taught of God
rely upon it; they utilize it; they think it is the power.
Let us take first an obvious illustration of this. Far too many of us in the
past have reasoned as... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 5 Chapter 3.2 The First Step: “Knowing This...”
The normal Christian life must begin with a very definite ‘knowing’, which
is not just knowing something about the truth nor understanding some
important doctrine. It is not intellectual knowledge at all, but an opening
of the eyes of the heart to see what we have in Christ.
How do you know your sins are forgiven? Is it because your pastor told you
so? No, you just know it. If I ask you how you know, you simply answer, ‘I
know it!’ Such knowledge com... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 6 chapter 8.4 The Spirit Indwelling
We move on now to the second aspect of the gift of the Holy Spirit, which,
as we shall see in our next chapter, is more particularly the subject of
Romans 8. It is that which we have spoken of as the Spirit indwelling. “If
so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you...” (Romans 8:9). As with the
Spirit outpoured, so with the Spirit indwelling, if we are to know in
experience that which is ours in fact, our first need is of Divine
revelation. When we see Christ ... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 7 chapter 8.6 The Absolute Lordship Of Christ
“Know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have from God? and ye are not your own; for ye were bought with a
price: glorify God therefore in your body” (1 Cor. 6:19, 20).
This verse now takes us a stage further, for, when once we have made the
discovery of the fact that we are the dwelling place of God, then a full
surrender of ourselves to God must follow. When we see that we are the
temple of God we shall imm... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 8 chapter 12.3
Natural Energy In The Work Of God
The power, the energy of the soul is present with us all. Those who have
been taught by the Lord repudiate that principle as a life principle; they
refuse to live by it; they will not let it reign, nor allow it to be the
power-spring of the work of God. But those who have not been taught of God
rely upon it; they utilize it; they think it is the power.
Let us take first an obvious illustration of this. Far too many of us in the
past have reasoned as... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i 发帖数: 1776 | 9 CHAPTER XXXIII
Of the Last Judgment
I. God hath appointed a day, wherein he will judge the world, in righteousne
ss, by Jesus Christ,[573] to whom all power and judgment is given of the Fat
her.[574] In which day, not only the apostate angels shall be judged,[575] b
ut likewise all persons that have lived upon earth shall appear before the t
ribunal of Christ, to give an account of their thoughts, words, and deeds; a
nd to receive according to what they have done in the body, whether good or
evi... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a 发帖数: 9485 | 10 Is it true that because Latter-day Saints do not accept the Bible as their
sole authority in faith and doctrine, they are not Christians?
Latter-day Saints accept the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and
the Pearl of Great Price as scriptural, in addition to the Bible. But the
whole question of canon—which writings are sacred, inspired, and binding on
disciples—has always been a complicated one in the history of traditional
Christianity.
In the earliest period of the Christian church,... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 11 C. Full Exegetical Outline
Idea: The reason Paul is not ashamed of the gospel is because it reveals the
very righteousness of God and as such is able to save those who trust in it
alone.
I. The reason Paul is not ashamed of the gospel is because it is the power o
f God for the salvation of everyone who believes, including the Jew first, t
hen the Gentile (1:16).
A. Paul is not ashamed of the gospel (1:16a).
B. The gospel is God’s power for salvation to everyone who believes (1:16b)
.
C. The gosp... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 12 F. Homiletical Idea and Outline
Idea: Do not be ashamed of the Gospel…
I. Because it is the power of God to save any person who trusts (1:16).
A. The Gospel concerning Christ is the power of God.
B. Every Person who trusts in him will be saved.
II. Because it reveals the righteousness of God—a righteousness by faith al
one (1:17).
A. The Gospel of God reveals the righteousness of God.
B. The Gospel of God is received by faith alone.
G. Contribution of the Passage to Systematic Theology
The text ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 13 C. Full Exegetical Outline
Idea: The reason Paul is not ashamed of the gospel is because it reveals the
very righteousness of God and as such is able to save those who trust in it
alone.
I. The reason Paul is not ashamed of the gospel is because it is the power o
f God for the salvation of everyone who believes, including the Jew first, t
hen the Gentile (1:16).
A. Paul is not ashamed of the gospel (1:16a).
B. The gospel is God’s power for salvation to everyone who believes (1:16b)
.
C. The gosp... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 14 F. Homiletical Idea and Outline
Idea: Do not be ashamed of the Gospel…
I. Because it is the power of God to save any person who trusts (1:16).
A. The Gospel concerning Christ is the power of God.
B. Every Person who trusts in him will be saved.
II. Because it reveals the righteousness of God—a righteousness by faith al
one (1:17).
A. The Gospel of God reveals the righteousness of God.
B. The Gospel of God is received by faith alone.
G. Contribution of the Passage to Systematic Theology
The text ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 15 2:1-4 The Jew who judges Gentiles has no excuse because at the same point at
which he judges another he condemns himself. Why? Well, when he judges, he
admits that such behavior is wrong, and worthy of just punishment from God,
yet he himself knowingly commits the same sins.
Paul’s point is that since God’s judgment is based on truth and not on any
fudging of the grades for the sake of the “chosen” crowd, the Jew is equa
lly held accountable to God. Jews cannot condemn others for their sins when... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 16 E. Exposition Proper
Since the Jew is just as guilty as the Gentile (2:1-5; 17-23) and cannot sim
ply appeal to the token of circumcision to secure immunity from judgment (2:
24-29), the question might reasonably be asked—with the intention of impugn
ing God’s character and plan—what advantage is there, then, in being a Jew
or what is the value of circumcision? After all, it seems as if Paul just g
ot finished saying in 2:1-29 that there is no advantage whatsoever. Paul ans
wers this question an... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 17 E. Exposition Proper
Since the Jew is just as guilty as the Gentile (2:1-5; 17-23) and cannot sim
ply appeal to the token of circumcision to secure immunity from judgment (2:
24-29), the question might reasonably be asked—with the intention of impugn
ing God’s character and plan—what advantage is there, then, in being a Jew
or what is the value of circumcision? After all, it seems as if Paul just g
ot finished saying in 2:1-29 that there is no advantage whatsoever. Paul ans
wers this question an... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 18 3:15-17 Paul moves on in vv. 15-17 with a citation dependent for the most pa
rt on Isaiah 59:7-8 (cf. Prov 1:16). He leaves the sins involving the mouth
and moves forward to enumerate sins involving the imagery of feet. People ar
e swift (ojxei'", oxeis) to shed blood, to commit acts of violence against o
thers. Indeed, ruin and misery are in their paths (oJdoi'", hodois); the lan
dscape behind them is littered with the remains of their violence. Everywher
e they go people suffer. They have not ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 19 3:15-17 Paul moves on in vv. 15-17 with a citation dependent for the most pa
rt on Isaiah 59:7-8 (cf. Prov 1:16). He leaves the sins involving the mouth
and moves forward to enumerate sins involving the imagery of feet. People ar
e swift (ojxei'", oxeis) to shed blood, to commit acts of violence against o
thers. Indeed, ruin and misery are in their paths (oJdoi'", hodois); the lan
dscape behind them is littered with the remains of their violence. Everywher
e they go people suffer. They have not ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 20 E. Exposition Proper
3:21 The phrase But now (NuniV deV, nuni de) is extremely significant in Rom
ans and marks off the “post-Christ’s coming” era—including the ministry
of the Spirit—as a new development in the salvation historical plan of God.
Now, Paul says, is the eschatological time of fulfillment in Christ (7:6).
So then, nuni de is not simply a logical connector, as if Paul were saying,
“since no one will be declared righteous through works of the law (3:20-21)
, therefore, righteousness ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 21 E. Exposition Proper
3:21 The phrase But now (NuniV deV, nuni de) is extremely significant in Rom
ans and marks off the “post-Christ’s coming” era—including the ministry
of the Spirit—as a new development in the salvation historical plan of God.
Now, Paul says, is the eschatological time of fulfillment in Christ (7:6).
So then, nuni de is not simply a logical connector, as if Paul were saying,
“since no one will be declared righteous through works of the law (3:20-21)
, therefore, righteousness ... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******u 发帖数: 712 | 22 CALVIN BELIEVED IN INFANT BAPTISM
Calvin said, "Baptism is properly administered to infants is something owed
to them."
CALVIN BELIEVED IN SACRAMENTS EQUAL TO GOD'S WORD
"Therefore, let it be regarded as a settled principle that the sacraments
have the same office as the Word of God: to offer and set forth Christ to us
, and in him the treasures of heavenly grace."
CALVIN BELIEVED IN AMILLENNIALISM AND WAS AGAINST PREMILLENNIALISM
Calvin said, "But a little later there followed the Chiliasts, wh... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 23
2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
"
When we become hardened against the admonitions of the Lord, impenitence
follows; and they who are not anxious about repentance openly provoke the
Lord.[65]
This is a remarkable passage: we may hence learn what I have already
referred to — that the ungodly not only accumulate for themselves daily a
heavier weight of God’s judgments, as long... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 24
7. To them who by patient continuance in well-doing seek for glory and
honour and immortality, eternal life;
"To them indeed, who by perseverance, etc.; literally, patience; by which
word something more is expressed. For it is perseverance, when one is not
wearied in constantly doing good; but patience also is required in the
saints, by which they may continue firm, though oppressed with various
trials. For Satan suffers them not by a free course to come to the Lord; but
he strives by numberles... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 25 這個叫選擇性的引用。 舉幾個裡面提到的人好了, 看看這些話像是
基督徒說的嗎?
As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But
how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been
blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed?
-- John Adams, letter to FA Van der Kamp, December 27, 1816
John AdamsThe frightful engines of ecclesiastical councils, of diabolical
malice, and Calvinistical good-nature never failed to terrify me ex... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 26 http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/
We find at the end of the Bible, in Revelation, the description of a final
judgment. We should remember that this is an apocryphal writing. It is full
of imagery, metaphors, symbolism, and dramatic language. It is extremely
difficult to understand and we should be very careful before basing a belief
on this book alone. The NLT translates Revelation 20:13-14 as, “The sea
gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were
judged acco... 阅读全帖 |
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c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 27 而且,对着信仰谈证明实在是很无聊的事情,信一个东西要理由么?
至少我觉得不需要。但我们不能忽略信一个东西的后果。
圣经读通,你才能看到它的高明之处。如果上来跟你讲Revelation,
你就不容易信--哦,神自己写的书,说自己必审判人必打赢小怪兽,
你个神算老几啊?自己说自己打得赢,说不信你就要下火湖,赖皮不赖皮啊?
现在,一开始讲个神创造天地--看,神送了你天地和生命哦,一切都是神送的哦。
然后讲神行神迹--看,神帮你忙爱你哦,然后讲信神的好处--看,信它比不信它
有利哦,一系列心理门槛过下来,最后给你看Revelation,你有了心理定势,
一点头也就信了。
卖车,卖房子,卖保险,卖成功学等等,都是这个技术,先讲好话让你点头,
然后走私货。只不过圣经经过人类里最聪明的最有权力的一群人几千年精研修改,
水平是极高的。现代政治家都用,好好研读,开卷有益。 |
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s******l 发帖数: 6898 | 28 没错,speak有两个意思,可以理解成“讲话”或者“演讲”,那么这里的“speak”究
竟是什么意思呢?
先看原文:
The castrati and 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy in the Bible:
Part of the market for castrati was due to the apostle Paul's famous dictum
"Mulier taceat in ecclesia" (women are to be silent in church). This
instruction is found in two passages in the Christian Scriptures (New
Testament):
* I Corinthians 14:34-35: "Let your women keep silence in the churches:
for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under o... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 29 Polygamy: Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, was the first Mormon prophet
to practice polygamy.
http://www.mormonhandbook.com/home/polygamy.html
Summary of Events
•From 1830 to 1876, LDS scripture was consistent in prohibited
polygamy: Book of Mormon: Jacob, chapter 2; Doctrine and Covenants, Section
101 (removed in 1876).
•During this time the church publicly taught against polygamy and
denied practicing it, while church authorities were privately taking plural
wives.
•In 185... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********L 发帖数: 5785 | 30 有道可传﹐以经解经 (林慈信)
有道可传﹐以经解经﹕
建立一套认信的神学的迫切性
林慈信
导论﹕给华人教会的紧急呼吁
两千年的教会史告诉我们:主基督的教会继续不断成长前进,同时也面临世界接二连三
的挑战。五花八门的试探,想要引诱教会在信仰生活事奉各方面姑息妥协,顺应世界潮
流。然而,教会付上血泪代价至死忠心,竭力持守护卫『从前一次交付圣徒的真道』。
「后现代主义」已经席卷整个世界,男女老幼已不再相信有绝对的真理,各人根据自
己主观经历来看圣经,自说自话众说纷纭。情感居首经验挂帅,教义不明真道不彰。因
此,在教会内外生灵涂炭,人心饥渴寻求救世真道,即圣经所启示的全面福音真理。华
人教会值此关键时刻,再次面临承先启后的时代挑战:尽忠持守、信靠传扬圣经为上帝
无谬误的话语。
历世历代以来,教会一直坚持认信圣经是圣灵默示所写成的,所以圣经本身就是上帝的
话,圣经就是神在说话。因为圣经就是神的话,所以是我们全心顺从的唯一最高权威,
是我们信仰与生活的最高准则。主耶稣基督透过圣经与圣灵来治理祂的教会。神呼召教
会要传讲、教导、护卫、顺服圣经(祂)的话,做为天国子民的生活法则。华人教会急需
讲坛复兴... 阅读全帖 |
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C*****e 发帖数: 367 | 31 请看《西敏斯特信仰告白》是怎么说的:
第一章 论圣经
一、本性之光与创造护理之工,虽彰显神的善良、智慧和权能,叫人无可推诿1;但
都不足以将得救所必须的,有关神及其旨意的知识赐予人2。所以神愿意多次多方将自己
启示给他的教会,并向教会宣布□的旨意3;以后,为了更加保守并传扬真理的缘故,而
且为了更坚立教会,安慰教会,抵挡肉体的败坏,并撒但与世界的恶意起见,遂将全部
启示笔之于书4。于是,神先前向他百姓启示自己旨意的方法已经停止5,故圣经成为我
们最必要的6。
二、在圣经,或笔之于书的神言的名义下,包括旧新约全书,即旧约三十九卷,新
约二十七卷(书名于此从略)。这些书都是出于神的默示7,为信仰与生活的准则。
三、一般称为伪经(Apocrypha)的各卷,既非出于神的默感,所以不属圣经正典,
因此(伪经)在神的教会中没有权威,只能当作其他属人的著作看待或使用之8。
四、应受信服的圣经权威,不在乎任何人或教会的见证,乃完全在乎神(他是真理
的本身)是圣经的著者。因为圣经是神的话,所以当为我们接受9。
五、我们可能受教会所作之见证的感动与影响,因而对圣经有高度敬畏的尊重10。
圣经主题属天的性... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 32 1 The Lake of Fire
(Revelation 19:20, 20:10, 14, 15)
Hell is described in only a few spots throughout the Bible as a place of
fire, and all these descriptions are in the New Testament except for
allegorical stories like Shadrach, Meshech, and Abednego in the fiery
furnace. In God’s Revelation to John, the final end of the world is
depicted as a war between good and evil. The good are not Christians.
Christians are raptured to Heaven before the Great Tribulation begins,
sparing them the horrors t... 阅读全帖 |
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E*V 发帖数: 200 | 33 First the bad news.
Because we have sinned we are born separated from God. Without intervention
, we are ineligible for Heaven. This applies to the entire human race. You
are not alone.
Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 3:10 says, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;"
Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and m
urderers, and whoremongers, and sor... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a 发帖数: 1203 | 34 Good Order in Worship
26What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each
of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an
interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up.
27If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one
at a time, and someone must interpret. 28If there is no interpreter, the
speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.
29Two or three prophets should... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g 发帖数: 8775 | 35 最近版上大家对什么才是基督教的教会(英文的church可以指建筑和/或教徒的团体
)有些讨论。我把网上一个课程https://bible.org/series/ecclesiology-and-
eschatology “session1”) 的内容翻译了过来。但不
见得我同意所有的观点,或者我了解所有的观点,也许我的翻译有问题,大家可以一起
讨论。
人们对什么是教会有很多不同的观点:
1. 宗教聚会,进行崇拜活动的建筑(average Joe theology)
2. 某个宗教的信徒的总体(politically correct theology)
3. 类似于旧约中耶路撒冷的圣殿的建筑,上帝所在的地方。(东正教)
4. 基督教的组织,组织中的宗教领袖带领信徒进行神圣的宗教活动(圣礼)。(罗
马天主教)
5. 上帝在所有时代的选民。(Covenant theology)
6. 耶稣的信徒。(Dispensationalist theology)
7. 对耶稣有正统信仰的人的总和,这些人包括死去的和还活着的人,这是一个不可
见的整体。(早期教... 阅读全帖 |
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n********n 发帖数: 8336 | 37 神的启示
一般启示(General Revelation)
由于人有神的启示,人才可以从事神学研究,因为神已将有关自己的真理向人类显
明。「启示」(希腊文apokalupsis)的意思是「公开」或「揭露」。启示是神对人的
一种揭露,神将有关他的真理向人显明了,而这些本来是人所不能知道的。
一般启示是得着救恩之前的启示。一般启示向全人类启示,有关神和他本性的各方
面,让全人类知道神的存在。诗篇十九篇1至6节,是强调神在宇宙和自然界一般启示的
重要经文。诸天述说神的荣耀,除了至高至大的神以外,没有任何一位能够创造广大的
诸天。大地彰显神作为的奥妙、和谐及荣美。罗马书一章18至21节进一步强调,神的一
般启示,及人对神的责任。神将「他的永能和神性……虽是眼不能见」,但向人显明,
叫人无可推诿(罗一20)。
神也借着他的照顾和管理(太五45,徒十四15至17),向全人类启示他自己,让人
类能回应神的恩典。此外,神也借着人的良知启示他自己,令全人类天生有对神的知识
(罗二14至15)。(有关一般启示进一步的探讨,请参看第18章「圣经论:有关圣经的
教义」。)
特殊启示(S... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 38 Thomas Jefferson, (1743-1826) 3rd American president, author, scientist,
architect, educator, and diplomat. Deist, avid separationist.
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of
Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have
not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of
coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites.
" [Notes on Virginia]
"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one re... 阅读全帖 |
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l***u 发帖数: 155 | 39 不信者就下地狱的说法,如果不是一个错误,就是一个极端失真的简化。一个主谓宾齐
全涵义寓意丰富的句子经过一个粗浅的简化, 以Matthew25:30 为例。将
unprofittable servant简单替代为不信者, 再將gnashing of teeth 替代为地狱。句
子的含义就面目全非。其实unprofittable servant为什么不能理解"没有作为的信徒”
呢。
Matthew 25:30
30And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be
weeping and gnashing of teeth.
有人将圣经提到地狱或相关的比喻列出来如下:
http://onecanhappen.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/jesus-mentions-hel
我觉得只有两段可以勉强往上面靠。1.John 15:6, 但是burned就一定是硫磺火湖永久
惩罚的地狱吗?为什么不可以说就是让一个无价值事物消失的意思呢。另外,"not
abide in me"简单的不... 阅读全帖 |
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n********n 发帖数: 8336 | 40 What is True Success?
By David J. Stewart | September 2007
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose
his own soul?" -Mark 8:36
I recently saw an interview on PBS. Both Bill Gates and Warren Buffet were
being interview by a group of university college students. Two of the
richest men in the world, sitting side-by-side, answering questions about
their success; yet, they are poorer than poor. It was noted on the TV
screen that Bill Gates and his family live in a... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 41 88 Bible Verses about
Harsh Words
Proverbs 15:1 ESV / 213 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Ephesians 4:29 ESV / 122 helpful votes
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for
building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Proverbs 29:11 ESV / 111 helpful votes
A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.
James 1:19-20 ESV / 92 h... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******l 发帖数: 158 | 42 我靠,一对f50音箱要1万美金。体积跟活人那么大。amazon都没得卖。兄弟,这就好比
在讨论汽车,我们在说什么BringMeWomen x5啊, makelove350啊。您老说非要开劳斯莱
斯,法拉利。
这些音箱mitbbs有几个人在买啊?对了,local有套2000块可以拿下。问题是我怎么去
试验,为啥好都不知道啊。另外,这种喇叭得接什么级别的功放啊?
还有,买bose回国人家都知道。买了这对喇叭,回去跟人说:哥们,你们不行。我家的
喇叭,原价1万美金。我靠,人家一听这牌子,revel,会不会当我是傻逼?
凡是南京路上没有旗舰店在帮着告诉中国人,这货是高级牌子的,一律不能买。等于是
你花了钱然后在给revel的音箱做广告。
花了2000块买这牌子跑去泡妞,结果人家女生不懂。很小心的等下次再跟你上床。结果
第二天被人请去,人家买的是bose,b&w,结果一下就脱裤子了。为啥,因为女生懂这
牌子啊。参考youtube有个上海女人跑steinway&son,结果砸完了钢琴才发现,那女的
只知道yamaha u1。就是新泽西老是团购的那种钢琴。
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c*******l 发帖数: 158 | 43 我的确不是这个圈子的。不过我有个问题哈:同一家公司出的,一个叫revel,一个叫
JBL。这中间的区别是什么?万一是toyota camry6缸和lexus es350的关系,那不是更
被骗钱啦。我感觉大家喜欢b&w还是有道理的。人家没那么多副牌,类似说是bmw。
其次是amer bose一直想搞清楚的问题。你们发烧友这个圈子,到底是靠测量物理参数
来决定音箱好坏,还是靠耳朵听?如果是靠耳朵听,那么耳朵本身的分辨能力到底能不
能物理分辨,还是纯心里作用。而如果是物理参数的话,那么物理参数ok的,是不是耳
朵就一定能感觉好,plus everyone的耳朵都感觉好?
这方面有没有ieee的paper之类的吗?有空我们圈外人士也拜读一下。
还有,这发烧级别的音箱,到底算是工业品还是工艺品?好比说两个revel的音箱,我
把一个喇叭拆下来跟另一个音箱互换,那么最好耳朵能区别吗?物理参数有变化吗?
我比较感兴趣这些问题哈,不是说要故意跟人抬杠之类。很羡慕你们玩的很high啊。
还有你那个线,买来的时候是接上什么hp的示波仪之类的测试的,还是就人家标个2000
块就买了。万一是假货怎么办? |
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h********n 发帖数: 4079 | 44 harman有几个子公司, 有些是收购的, 各出各的东西. 就好比Polk是klipsch的子公司.
B&W是好东西没有疑问.
靠耳朵听, 既主观也客观. 主观在于, 可能某种音色(warm, cold, etc)你喜欢而我不
喜欢; 客观在于, 听的多了以后(也可以说是训练吧), 对听到的声音的描述应该差不多
, 比如说一个音箱muddy or detailed, 低音不够, 高音太涩,等等之类的描述基本比较
主观. 很多发烧友都会写review, 就是这么回事. 声音靠物理测量很难, 因为没有成
熟的方法可以根据测量数据判断质量; amplifier可以测数据, 稍好一点的都会提供测
试数据. 物理测量更多对音箱设计者有用, 这是souldstage杂志的观点.
比如我们家旁边有家sears, 里面放了一排音箱, polk, bose, klipsch, yamaha, sony
等等, 都连着同一个功放, 你挨个听就会发现区别挺大的.
也有很贵的音箱听着很烂, 骗钱为主, 林子大了什么鸟都有. 所以入门的时候可以不用
买太贵的.
音箱是工业品, 在美国, 不太会买到假货. 价... 阅读全帖 |
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n********y 发帖数: 187 | 45 你们心胸开阔---换了CHURCH,晓亮,晓威,一定会和你们急了!
我碰到的科研人员---尤其是美国人,其实比中国人更在乎SCIENCE/ENGINEERING的区别
有些东西明明是ENG他们还要往SC上拽
TOWNES回忆录里记录了MASER发明的艰难过程. 由于TOWNES本人不是分子束的专家,制作
分子束的MASER实在有点门槛.于是哥大的巨人们从系主任到NB奖得主都对TOWNES的
MASER责难有加.其中对TOWNES本人的当面指责也就罢了--TOWNES毕竟是拿了终生教授职
位的。
还要对他的学生Zeiger说出这样难听的话---“你的两年青春真是浪费在这轻浮的没有
科学的项目上了!”
原来哥大的RABBI,KUSCH都认为MASER/LASER是没有科学意义的东西,在一些正统科学家
看来—发明不是科学,发现才是科学.发明是被科学家用的。因此MASER和LASER是没有科
学意义的东西.这也导致他们, 甚至TOWNES本人对LASER没有对光谱的发现更有兴趣 ---
TOWNES做MASER也是为了得到更高分辨率的光谱.
可能因为Zeiger受到的迫害,TOWNES深感不... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******s 发帖数: 7316 | 46 下面是废除计划清单:
Here's a list of discontinued plans. (Hopefully complete).
The shortcut version: If it has "Mad" in the name, it's probably safe. (
with Mad Surfing BBQ Brisket still waiting a deicision)
If it does not have "Mad" in the name, it is likely being discontinued.
$25 Prepaid 2¢ Plan
$35 Unlimited - The Rex
$39 Unlimited Basic
$45 Unlimited Super
$49 Unlimited Ultra
$6.00 - The Afterhours Plan
2014 Free BYOSD Plan
60 Days No Call Plan
Accretion
Accretion Max
Ace of Hearts
Ageless
Althea... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 47 Pre-Order 3 Select Game Titles for $175 and Get $50 E-Gift Card (PS3/360)
Wal-Mart
Pre-order 3 games from a select list at Walmart.com and get a $50 E-Gift
Card.
(note, the way the selections are set up you cannot order both Assassin's
Creed and Battlefield 3)
:shrug:
Cash back is available through Discover (5%) and BoA (1%).
Choose from these titles :
360:
Link:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Choice-of-3-Preorders-Bonus-50-eGift-
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
Batman: Arkham City
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 48 Lightning Deals - Black Friday (times tbd)
Active Life Outdoor Challenge 17.99
Active Life: Magical Carnival with Mat 34.99
Assassin's Creed II $9.99
Assassin's Creed Revelations $34.99
Assassin's Creed Revelations $34.99
Batman: Arkham City $28.00
Battlefield 3 $28.00
Borderlands Game of the Year $19.99
Bulletstorm $17.99
Call of Duty: World at War $7.99
Child Of Eden $19.99
Dance Central 2 $24.99
Deus Ex: Human Revolution $29.99
Dirt 3 $14.99
Disney Universe $29.99/$27
Driver San Francisco $19... 阅读全帖 |
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