f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 1 slightly, not much. u have a d suit, kqx, dont u? 【 在 Watson (福尔摩斯的癞皮
狗) 的大作中提到: 】
to
may
And
survive
in |
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w****b
发帖数: 623 | 2 What's the contradiction here? Why can't he have D or C? |
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w****b
发帖数: 623 | 3 It is not gf, but it does show tremendous interests by voluntarily bid over
3NT. This is because for most ppl, neg x only guarantees the other major and
not necessarily the other minor. So with minimum, and no S, no D support, you
rebid your H and see if pd has tolerance. You never need to worry about the
case when pd has 3 card H support, since he'll take preference from 4C to H
for sure. 4C can occasionally produce an accident if pd has 4-2-3-4 shape, and
a marginal neg x. But then your game i |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 4 I did think about 3d, but with pick-up pd. I am not sure if it is 100%
forcing. So I choose 2S as a way to force while keeping the bid at a low
level.
After pd's 3S, I am even more concerned if pd raise me with 3 hearts and 4
spades, say sth like:
S: XXXX
H: AQX
D: KTXX
C: KX
I think with this hand,after opening 1D and hearing 1H from pd, raising 1H to
2H, rather than rebid 1S is the right choice.
For your reference. Pd's hand is
S: AXXX
H: AXXX
D: KTXX
C: X
I think pd can somewhat solve my prob |
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a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 5
and
related
to
seems to me, 1D promising 4+ only possible when you open 1 major only promise
4 cards.
11-13 bal. if you open a 14-16 1NT. (Open 1C show a 17+ balanced hand or 16+
unbalance hand. this can solve the "16HCP vs 8HCP" problem of traditional 1C
open).
exchange these meanings, a jump reverse to 2NT promise good suit maximium and
0-2 cards in responder's major, a jump rebid promise good suit maximium and 3
card support in responder's major. This way seems more sensible.
Many variation |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 6
to
and
So
related
stick to
I think rebid showing 11-12 is no good, though i do play 131-5 opening.
Another possible way is to play 14-16, and 1d-1m-1n show 12-13. But then 1d
cannot promise 4+d. This is a real problem. I really dont like nebulous 1d.
I think this problem is quite important. In my impression, i met this problem
in a few times i play precision on bbo. Last night I held this hand:
S: AXX
H: AKQXXX
D: QXX
C: XX
1H-1S
3H-P
Pd has:
S: KQT9XX
H: TX
D: KX
C: XX
we may argue pd shld alw |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 7 i think 1n is the right bid, 2c should promise 6cards, rebid 1n shows 18-19,
Qx should be enough. since pd passed 1h, 2h cant be cuebid, must be real
suit.【 在 gloomyturkey (一只郁闷的火鸡) 的大作中提到: 】
路
大 |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 8
pass, 100%
no, if he has 3card heart, he shld raise to 2h, but he shld never rebid 2d
with 5332, he shld bid 1n if no 3card spt for ur suit. |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 9 Absolutely, when one rebid a minor, chances are it's a 6 card suit. |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 It's impossible, your partner should open 1H in this case. And even if you
opened 1S, the right rebid is 3H or 4H, not 2H.
Just calm down. It's a popular misunderstanding of 2H reopening for many
playerss which I'll describe in details in my next post. |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 11 yiyi, you are thinking the 5d was bid by Hinze...
I guess 5d bidder is void in S and has one suit without stopper,
so he/she bid 5d to hope for the best luck in game...
may I ask you a very naive question?
in general 2/1 (Goren or whatever), with out special conventions
such as 2way cb, what would the opener rebid? 3d or 2d? |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 12 this hand is not quite strong for forcing, right? Does it guarantee 6 cards?
What if pd hold some 2425 min hand? Does he have to rebid 3C? What if he has
6-card club suit?【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】 |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 13 nroth's hand is good enough to force to game after pd's 1s response. He can
try a fancy 3C, which theoretically should promise 4card. In this case you hit
the gold mine and pd will raise u to 4c, and u can rebid 4H, showing sixth
card. Pd can pass or raise to 5c. I would bid 5c【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三
老爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 14 this is a tough hand for natural systems. I have a solution which is
probably too complicated for most players. So it's best to stay with your
result. Still, if you really want to bid a game, you can rebid 3NT over 1S,
because 3NT would have some play if your partner holds HQ and one K. |
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w****b
发帖数: 623 | 15 On each of the following hands, assign the blame: who's more at fault?
What's the worst call?
All IMP scoring, standard american (2/1 is game forcing except when suit
rebid).
1.
A KQT9xx
AKQxx -
T9xx AKx
Axx KQT9
1H 1S (SJS is not available)
2D 3C
3H 3S
4C 4S
p
2.
A KQT9xx
AKTx x
xx KQx
KQTxxx AJ9
1S
2C 2S
3H (x) p |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 16
SJS is not right for this hand anyway, it's a 6-4 two suiter.
obviously east's 4S is a huge underbid. The right bid is 4D over 4C as
a cuebid. When one holds only 3 losers and partner made a extra showing
bid(4C) after opened the hand, 4S is just a crime.
West's 4S is rather bad, he should bid 4H as a cuebid and partner would
cooperate for sure.
4H is bad, 4H rebids show a weaker hand here. |
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m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 17 1. i want to double. the shape is almost perfect, and the hand might be too
strong for 2h. double + rebid may be more descriptive of this hand.
2. feels like western cue. (might be heart raise too)
3. after 3s, partner denied heart fit, i am kind of stuck. my only choice
right now seems to be 4d, and partner will bid 4h or pass. |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 18 ANTI-BART
Josh Sher (Washington, DC)
Marc Umeno (Cleveland, Ohio)
One of the weaknesses of the forcing NT is that both opener and responder’s
hands are wide ranging in terms of strength and distribution. Opener, for a 2
of a minor rebid , may be balanced, or unbalanced and has anywhere from a
shapely 10 HCP to a hand just shy of a jump shift. Meanwhile, responder has
anywhere from 5-12 HCP and lots of possible shapes. How does the partnership
know where to end up? This problem is even more seri |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 19 MP. No one vul
Open 3rd seat 1C holding
AQT
83
AK
KQ9862
1C-1S
? |
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x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 20
1 2nt,
2 4s,
3 3c
4 2d...... |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 22
with no gadgets, there are 4 alternatives:
1. underbid 3C.
2. put a club in spades and bid 4S
3. bid 3S and hope for the best.
4. make a fake reverse 2D and hope to sort it out later.
None of them is attractive... |
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 24
hehe, this is why I post it here:) |
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m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 26 in my system, 3c would definitely be not forcing. i am just rebidding partner
's suit. |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 27 then what's the point to double here and rebid 3C? |
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g********d
发帖数: 89 | 28 u dealer, vul forgot, but think doesnt matter. opps are silent.
play 2/1
hold:
Q Axx KQxx AQxxx
open 1c(?), p bid 1s, what is ur rebid? can this hand bid 2d reverse?
1n? 2n(stretch 1 point)?
and p had AJxxxx KQx - Jxxx
what happen is:
1c-1s-1n-4s-all pass
place the blame if u want. |
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x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 29 bid 2c.
1c only commit 3c. so although rebid usually show 6, 5c is not an evil at all.
4s is kind of bad bid for such a good hand. it could be an easy slam if c or S
matchs and could be a tragedy even you guys have a c slam.
he only need a c AKQxx and HA. |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 30 what's the point range for this kind of splinter (openner's rebid)? |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 31 it depends, if you hold another reasonable side suit, you tend to bid here
cause if you pass, you may miss game here and partner may not save you.
If you hold a balanced hand, you want to overcall 1nt if the hand falls
into your NT range. If your hand is too strong, like 19 or more, you
want to double and rebid some number of NT cause pass can be just too risky.
The really tough problems are hands like:
SAKxxxx HKQxx DAxx C-, it's still very risky to pass but you really don't
have
a good bid her |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 32 This one came from the spring national pairs (rotated).
proved too tough at the table, but perhaps easier on the
paper.
S T73
H A4
D AJ9542
C Q6
S AK95
H KJT85
D 8
C AK4
North opened and rebid his diamonds, and after North's reluctant support in
hearts, South push to 6H.
J of club is led, East play 8, normal count & attitude.
What's the plan? |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 33 6H is certainly not easy to bid, perhaps it may go like
1D 1H
2D 2S
2N 3C
3H 3S
4D 5N(pick a slam)
6H pass
I actually don't quite like 3C here, 4NT seems quite normal for the actual
hand
after 2NT rebid by the opener. |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 34 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
arrows (箭笑江湖) 于 (Tue May 15 23:38:20 2007) 提到:
This one came from the spring national pairs (rotated).
proved too tough at the table, but perhaps easier on the
paper.
S T73
H A4
D AJ9542
C Q6
S AK95
H KJT85
D 8
C AK4
North opened and rebid his diamonds, and after North's reluctant support in
hearts, South push to 6H.
J of club is led, East play 8, normal count & attitude.
What's the plan?
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olddragon (老龙) 于 (T |
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x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 35
1nt, you will start eith 2d, transfer to 2h.
then bid c after pd's bid.
One more round rebid c will help.
You can pretty much imagine your bidding like
2d, 2c, 4c, 4s....
After that, you will need to think about the information you got from your
pd.
It is like
2d: I have a H suite
3c: I have inviting+ strength plus a c suite.
4c: I have slam interests, plus C AK.
4S. I have SK and won't be satisfied with slam. |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 36 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
boreas ( 北风之神～在人生的N叉路口) 于 (Thu Jul 5 02:58:44 2007) 提到:
对家开叫1nt
手里拿着
KTx AQJTx 9 AKxx
用SAYC怎么叫？
这牌基本上一定要叫到小满贯
需要看对家是不是有3＋红桃， 或者4＋草花， 或者D有控制
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xlxie (三老爷) 于 (Thu Jul 5 11:52:45 2007) 提到:
1nt, you will start eith 2d, transfer to 2h.
then bid c after pd's bid.
One more round rebid c will help.
You can pretty much imagine your bidding like
2d, 2c, 4c, 4s....
After that, you will need to think about the info |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 37 S AT432
H T9
D J2
C AKJ4
S J
H A53
D AK653
C 9763
partner open 2nd seat 1S, could be light,
1NT semi forcing, partner 2C rebid confirm full
opening. you land the contract 3NT.
west lead K of hearts, and continue with Q of hearts,
what is the plan? |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 38 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
arrows (箭笑江湖) 于 (Sun Jul 22 16:08:12 2007) 提到:
S AT432
H T9
D J2
C AKJ4
S J
H A53
D AK653
C 9763
partner open 2nd seat 1S, could be light,
1NT semi forcing, partner 2C rebid confirm full
opening. you land the contract 3NT.
west lead K of hearts, and continue with Q of hearts,
what is the plan?
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wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 于 (Tue Jul 24 19:56:26 2007) 提到:
Very tough. Too many possibilities, and this is a hand that yo |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 39 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
arrows (箭笑江湖) 于 (Tue May 15 23:38:20 2007) 提到:
This one came from the spring national pairs (rotated).
proved too tough at the table, but perhaps easier on the
paper.
S T73
H A4
D AJ9542
C Q6
S AK95
H KJT85
D 8
C AK4
North opened and rebid his diamonds, and after North's reluctant support in
hearts, South push to 6H.
J of club is led, East play 8, normal count & attitude.
What's the plan?
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olddragon (老龙) 于 (T |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 40 I don't like your first question. Forcing or non-forcing is a matter
of common sense. But, who knows, maybe sense is never common. Here, after 3S,
if partner rebid cheaply, s/he should keep in mind that you could pass.
It makes sense to have the cheapest bid as the "kick-the-ball-back" bid, I
cannot see how it makes sense otherwise. So, 4C doesn't promise extra length,
4D does.
after 4C, I'd bid 4D. some would want to ask: "is it forcing?", my anwser
would be: "I don't know". Instead of tagging |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 41 This is an interesting hand. Usually you want to raise your partner if
possible
, however, here, it becomes tricky cause your hand is very slamish and H
doesn't have to be a good trump suit.
Suppose partner holds AJ Kxxxx AQxxx x, you may make 7D, 6H may fail
due to 4-1 split. or partner may hold:
AJx Kxxxx AQ Axx, here, you can make 7NT or 7S or 7D, but not 7H.
So my suggestion is that you really should bid out your shape here
and bid 3D. If partner can raise S or D, great. if partner rebids 3H |
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r******l
发帖数: 18 | 42 south hand is more than 2D response since 2As, not just kqj etc. Not sure
the partnership style of 3C. could be a good hand with good D and C values,
could also be good shapes with so so value. after 3H, its key for south to
let North know that he got good values here. Maybe 3S cuebid to let North to
decide how to go forward. If north rebid 4C, then you might want to take to
5D, if north bid 4D, then just pass, if north cuebid 4H, then you can
comfortable rkc to explore. 3S wouldn't be passed si |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 43 There are two issues: one is that you have to sign off at 3 level with some
rather bad hands, which creates a lot of safety problems. Suppose the
bidding is 1C 1H 1S, you have Ax Qxxxx xxx xxx, here 2C is a relay to 2D,
then you can't sign off at 2C. A normal treatment is to bid 2NT, which
relays to 3C, then you are one level too high here. This is an intrinsic
disadvantage.
Another issue is that XYZ is not very well defined for GF hands.
Suppose the bidding is 1C 1H 1S, you hold x AKxxx AJxx Qx... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********6
发帖数: 679 | 44 1c. I will rebid GF 2s over 1d or 1h. If 1c is passed all around, we are
not likely to have game anyway. |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 45 I usually open 2C here and rebid 2H over 2D or 2NT over 2H(double negative). |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 46 OK. I suppose a simple way is just to play that repeating first suit (3H
here) is non-forcing, new suit is forcing. For 5-5 very weak hand you just
give up playing in 3D, instead you rebid 3H.
If that is the case, then partner's 4D is forced, not a slam try. But I
probably still bid 4H. Partner can always correct to 5D with an unsuitable
hand for hearts, since he knows I have exactly 5 H and at least 4 D. Passing
wouldn't be a crime, but a little timid. |
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p*********6
发帖数: 679 | 47 On BBO news - A new version of GIB (Version 20) released on 12/15.
Main Changes:
-Added/improved many rules for takeout doubles and continuations.
-Improved GIB's ability to choose between minor or major suits after a -2
level opening or overcall, including unusual NT.
-Improved rules on penalty and support redoubles.
-After partner gives a limit raise, GIB will now refrain from bidding to an
illogical level.
-Made GIB smarter after the 1NT - Stayman - 2 Major - 3 Other Major sequence
. GIB shou... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 48 1NT with 12 to 14.
With very good 14 to bad 16, usually bid 2D with good D suit or open 1NT if
S is a stiff honor.
With x AKJx Jxxxx AQx, it is tough. You can either choose to open 1H or 1NT
or 1D then rebid 2C. |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 49 I rebid 1NT here.
1D 1S
1N 3H(splinter, typical holding is 4-1-4-4, with 5 spades, I go through 2D,
with 4S+5D, I bid 2D over 1D)
4D(set up trumps, slam interest) 4H(RKC)
4N(3 or 0) 5C(Q?)
5D(No) 6D
2D usually shows 6, it can be five only when you hold 15 to bad 16 and good
D suit. |
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w****b
发帖数: 623 | 50 哇，好久不来，这里居然热闹成这个样子。
虽然我已经miss了这个boat，但是仍然忍不住赶这个热闹。
两手牌是这样:
Kxxx
x
Kxxx
AKxx
vs
Ax
Axx
Axxxxx
xx
对吧？假定我们在同一page:
1D - 1S
2D - 3H （我不是太好的牌手，被BS没关系）
3S - 4C
4H - 5D
5H - 7D
4H: kickback
5D: 2 key + trump Q (I never rebid 2D over 1S with 1453 shape)
5H: confirm all key, asking for K
7D：we have all K's。同伴这里显然只关心K，否则他会做别的大满贯邀请。
这里大满贯的关键恰恰在于那个拿3个A，平均牌型的人，在知道同伴单张红心后要take
captainship,因为只有他自己知道自己是最好的2-3-6-2，而不是毫无前途的3-2-6-2
或2-2-6-3，即便前面的叫牌会完全一样。
假定同伴持这样的牌，没有理解我们的3H，把它当成了55GF，于是加一个4H，我们打
kickback(如果你不打，那么低... 阅读全帖 |
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