x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 1 you got
AKxxx
Q
AKxxx
Jx
You open 1s, your P 1nt under 2/1.
what is next?
suppose you bid 2d, heard your P bid 5d
..... | c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 2 first, I would responed with 3d to describ my hand and strength
second... I can not understand 1s 1nt 2d 5d...... this depends on
your understanding to your pd... is he/she aggressive in most of
the time? or his jump game call is always a definite stop?
I would stop and play 5d if an unfamiliar pd bid like this...
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: you got
: AKxxx
: Q
: AKxxx
: Jx
: You open 1s, your P 1nt under 2/1.
: what is next?
: suppose you bid 2d, heard your P bid 5d
: .....
| f*o
发帖数: 168 | 3 add to 6d
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: you got
: AKxxx
: Q
: AKxxx
: Jx
: You open 1s, your P 1nt under 2/1.
: what is next?
: suppose you bid 2d, heard your P bid 5d
: .....
| m*e
发帖数: 155 | 4
provided they two play week jump.
it is unlikely for him to have
1. both a side A and a side K (side=H/C here), in order to justify
the 1N(failing to bid 2D).
2. a shortness in side suits(H/C):
he didn't splinter,
opps remained silence(with 10+ to 11+ cards)
therefore there could easily be 2 quick losers in H/C.
i don't see a slam there.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: first, I would responed with 3d to describ my hand and strength
: second... I can not understand 1s 1nt 2d 5d...... this depends on
: your understanding to your pd... is he/she aggressive in most of
: the time? or his jump game call is always a definite stop?
: I would stop and play 5d if an unfamiliar pd bid like this...
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 5 2/1's 1nt has very wide range... I don't know and have to
respect pd's decision (in my eyes, 5d is absolutely stop sign)
【在 m*e 的大作中提到】
:
: provided they two play week jump.
: it is unlikely for him to have
: 1. both a side A and a side K (side=H/C here), in order to justify
: the 1N(failing to bid 2D).
: 2. a shortness in side suits(H/C):
: he didn't splinter,
: opps remained silence(with 10+ to 11+ cards)
: therefore there could easily be 2 quick losers in H/C.
: i don't see a slam there.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6 6D, what's the problem? Your partner should have at least two cover cards
and very long diamonds, S- HAxx DQxxxxx CAxxx is possible.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: you got
: AKxxx
: Q
: AKxxx
: Jx
: You open 1s, your P 1nt under 2/1.
: what is next?
: suppose you bid 2d, heard your P bid 5d
: .....
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 7 in that case, don't you think 7d is cold?
Since 2D only promiss like Axx in D, 5D although is a stop sign,
still, it should be better than 3d or 4d, so I think the hand is clearly
enough to 6, in some cases, could be a possible 7.
like the hand cozofu mentioned.
What about 5s or 5h, what do you guys think?
I prefer 5s, personally
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 6D, what's the problem? Your partner should have at least two cover cards
: and very long diamonds, S- HAxx DQxxxxx CAxxx is possible.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 7D is bad, you need S 4-4 to make 7D in this case.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: in that case, don't you think 7d is cold?
: Since 2D only promiss like Axx in D, 5D although is a stop sign,
: still, it should be better than 3d or 4d, so I think the hand is clearly
: enough to 6, in some cases, could be a possible 7.
: like the hand cozofu mentioned.
: What about 5s or 5h, what do you guys think?
: I prefer 5s, personally
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| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 9 yiyi, you are thinking the 5d was bid by Hinze...
I guess 5d bidder is void in S and has one suit without stopper,
so he/she bid 5d to hope for the best luck in game...
may I ask you a very naive question?
in general 2/1 (Goren or whatever), with out special conventions
such as 2way cb, what would the opener rebid? 3d or 2d?
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 6D, what's the problem? Your partner should have at least two cover cards
: and very long diamonds, S- HAxx DQxxxxx CAxxx is possible.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 2D, 3D is gameforcing, this hand isn't that strong enough to force to game
unless partner has some support in either S or D or extra value.
Two way checkback applies not here, but sequences like:
1D 1H 1NT, then 2C would be invitational checkback stayman,
2D would be gameforcing checkback.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: yiyi, you are thinking the 5d was bid by Hinze...
: I guess 5d bidder is void in S and has one suit without stopper,
: so he/she bid 5d to hope for the best luck in game...
: may I ask you a very naive question?
: in general 2/1 (Goren or whatever), with out special conventions
: such as 2way cb, what would the opener rebid? 3d or 2d?
| | | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 11 i see, but if he got 4H and 3c then the 7D will be cold :)
Actual hand for the 5D is
x
Jxxxxx
Ax
Axxx
What is the best solution?
cards
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 7D is bad, you need S 4-4 to make 7D in this case.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 12 For those who dare not raise at least 6D, I
sincerely suggest you get your brain checked, or your partner's brain.
In a non-competitive auction, leap from 2D all the way to the 5D with
an aceless hand is the very symptom of lunatics.
If he got an ace at least, what else you need to make a slam? Nothing.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: you got
: AKxxx
: Q
: AKxxx
: Jx
: You open 1s, your P 1nt under 2/1.
: what is next?
: suppose you bid 2d, heard your P bid 5d
: .....
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 13 i think u have to bid 6. Pd must have at least one ace.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★ | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 14 Think so,
What I am thinking is if P have 2 As. and I bid 6, what will he do?
★
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: i think u have to bid 6. Pd must have at least one ace.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 15 dont worry about 7. Bid 6 is quite a success.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三少爷
§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】
★ | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 16 this is a basic misunderstanding of 2H balancing. 2H does guarantee
some extra, either HCP wise or distributional wise. Hands like
QJxxx KJxx Dxx CAx should be passed over 2D, because partner
has denied a negative double value, so the chance for game
is rather low, opps are very likely to hold the balance of the power.
The minimum requirement
for 2H is something like: AJxxx AQxxx x xx, in which case you still
have some reasonable play in 4H. With 4 hearts, you should have
extra HCP and club shor
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: yiyi, you are thinking the 5d was bid by Hinze...
: I guess 5d bidder is void in S and has one suit without stopper,
: so he/she bid 5d to hope for the best luck in game...
: may I ask you a very naive question?
: in general 2/1 (Goren or whatever), with out special conventions
: such as 2way cb, what would the opener rebid? 3d or 2d?
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 17 Also, if you really want to add some science to this issue, you can
probably play 3D as a serious game invitation and 3H as a nonserious game
invitation, but even if you play this way, I still don't mind a direct
4H raise. It's just awful and losing bridge to play too many 3H contracts.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is a basic misunderstanding of 2H balancing. 2H does guarantee
: some extra, either HCP wise or distributional wise. Hands like
: QJxxx KJxx Dxx CAx should be passed over 2D, because partner
: has denied a negative double value, so the chance for game
: is rather low, opps are very likely to hold the balance of the power.
: The minimum requirement
: for 2H is something like: AJxxx AQxxx x xx, in which case you still
: have some reasonable play in 4H. With 4 hearts, you should have
: extra HCP and club shor
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 18 If you play neg. dbl, then pass can be a trap. So with QJxxx, KJxx, xx, Ax, I
think you still have to balance with 2H. With QJxxx, KJxx, Ax, xx I would
pass.
Still I think 4H is overbid, though I can live with it. If pd is deadmin, he
can pass 3H. If he has any hand as you quote here, he will raise. So why not
ask his opinion?
In the given state of trailing behiand by 10IMPs, i can see the point of
bidding 4H. But if we only consider this hand, I still think 3H is enough.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is a basic misunderstanding of 2H balancing. 2H does guarantee
: some extra, either HCP wise or distributional wise. Hands like
: QJxxx KJxx Dxx CAx should be passed over 2D, because partner
: has denied a negative double value, so the chance for game
: is rather low, opps are very likely to hold the balance of the power.
: The minimum requirement
: for 2H is something like: AJxxx AQxxx x xx, in which case you still
: have some reasonable play in 4H. With 4 hearts, you should have
: extra HCP and club shor
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 19 Why do you trap with a gameforcing hand? If you can make a game facing a
minimum opener, you should never pass 2D. Now you probably get the point,
2H should never be a dead minimum because partner has denied a gameforcing
hand. Facing some extra value, this hand isn't bad at all, game can be
made facing a lot of minimum reopenings, so just bid it. It's never a matter
of game status and you shouldn't overbid even if you are 10 imps behind
unless you have a very good reason to do so, such as "opps
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: If you play neg. dbl, then pass can be a trap. So with QJxxx, KJxx, xx, Ax, I
: think you still have to balance with 2H. With QJxxx, KJxx, Ax, xx I would
: pass.
: Still I think 4H is overbid, though I can live with it. If pd is deadmin, he
: can pass 3H. If he has any hand as you quote here, he will raise. So why not
: ask his opinion?
: In the given state of trailing behiand by 10IMPs, i can see the point of
: bidding 4H. But if we only consider this hand, I still think 3H is enough.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 20
I am not sure this is right. Why cannt I make a trap pass with some
invitational hand and trumps.? Say the vul. is we white vs red?
If we dont play trap pass, then this hand shold make a takeout dbl.
Facing some extra value, this hand isn't bad at all, game can be
This is true, this hand is actually quite good, Da and Sk and four trumps.
so just bid it.
I am still not sure about this. But i think your 3D is a good solution.
It's never a matter
With this hand i still think we will bid game anywa
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: Why do you trap with a gameforcing hand? If you can make a game facing a
: minimum opener, you should never pass 2D. Now you probably get the point,
: 2H should never be a dead minimum because partner has denied a gameforcing
: hand. Facing some extra value, this hand isn't bad at all, game can be
: made facing a lot of minimum reopenings, so just bid it. It's never a matter
: of game status and you shouldn't overbid even if you are 10 imps behind
: unless you have a very good reason to do so, such as "opps
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 21 Yes, you can trap with invitational hands and you should trap only with
invitational hands, with GF hands, if you can't afford missing a game, you
should never trap. One exception is that if you hold GF hands, very long strong
in opps suit, white vs red, you can pass, because you don't mind defending
2 x undoubled down 3 or 4. This hand is a perfect example of a trapping pass.
take out double isn't good, because your heart is weak, you don't have
club tolerance and your diamond is too strong. Yo
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
:
: I am not sure this is right. Why cannt I make a trap pass with some
: invitational hand and trumps.? Say the vul. is we white vs red?
: If we dont play trap pass, then this hand shold make a takeout dbl.
: Facing some extra value, this hand isn't bad at all, game can be
: This is true, this hand is actually quite good, Da and Sk and four trumps.
: so just bid it.
: I am still not sure about this. But i think your 3D is a good solution.
: It's never a matter
: With this hand i still think we will bid game anywa
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