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发帖数: 18498 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: szbd (小破猫), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 谁能给详细介绍一下达尔富尔的情况啊？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 11 01:55:59 2007), 转信
"Before you can say that this is genocide or ethnic cleansing, we will have
to have a definite decision and plan and programme of a government to wipe
out a particular group of people, then we will be talking about genocide,
ethnic cleansing. What we know is not that. What we know is that there was
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发帖数: 1840 | 2 即将登场的新游戏Victoria 2，为特殊历史事件写了特殊脚本，主创在Forum和玩家交
流的时候提到了义和团起义，以boxer rebellion做为特殊脚本的例子。有意思的紧接着
就有玩家提到太平天国起义，主创说他认为太平天国起义只是一般起义，没有特殊脚本
。该玩家不依不饶的说太平天国起义影响要比义和团要大得多。主创，作为西方人，实
在就不耐烦了，说他找不出太平天国起义任何特殊之处。
游戏作者，从西方人的视角，得出这个结论是毫不奇怪的，因为义和团有不少外国人被
杀了，太平天国对西方没有直接冲击，也没有导致西方干涉。但是静心想一想，太平天
国运动的确是乏善可陈，你就是想给他总结出啥历史意义都总结不出来。唯一间接影响也
许就是湘淮两军的崛起，开创了近代中国军阀的传统， |
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RRI (投资怪物) 于 (Fri Aug 6 21:51:44 2010, 美东) 提到:
即将登场的新游戏Victoria 2，为特殊历史事件写了特殊脚本，主创在Forum和玩家交
流的时候提到了义和团起义，以boxer rebellion做为特殊脚本的例子。有意思的紧接着
就有玩家提到太平天国起义，主创说他认为太平天国起义只是一般起义，没有特殊脚本
。该玩家不依不饶的说太平天国起义影响要比义和团要大得多。主创，作为西方人，实
在就不耐烦了，说他找不出太平天国起义任何特殊之处。
游戏作者，从西方人的视角，得出这个结论是毫不奇怪的，因为义和团有不少外国人被
杀了，太平天国对西方没有直接冲击，也没有导致西方干涉。但是静心想一想，太平天
国运动的确是乏善可陈，你就是想给他总结出啥历史意义都总结不出来。唯一间接影响也
许就是湘淮两军的崛起，开创了近代中国军阀的传统，
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发帖数: 6973 | 4 Thomas Fleming, Against Rebellion; Why did some colonials remain loyal to
the king? Wall Street Journal, Nov. 17, 2010.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703506904575592613344540820.html
(book review on Thomas B. Allen, Tories; Fighting for the King in America’s
First Civil War. Harper Collins, 2010)
Quote: "How many Tories resided in the colonies at the outbreak of war?
Using the latest research, Mr. Allen reports that the old estimate—a third
of Americans—is outdated; under scruti... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5581 | 7 上次写到Lord Latimer娶了新寡不久的Catherine Parr。此时距他的第二任妻子去世已
经两年了，所以他也并非急着结婚，一定是Catherine身上的一些特质吸引了他。这些
特质恐怕也是Henry后来看上她的原因。他们是在1534年结婚的，就在前一年，Henry和
他的第二任王后Anne Boleyn结婚，并且开始加快英国的宗教改革进程。Lord Latimer
在宗教上属于保守的天主教，很快，他的生活就被宗教改革的大潮扯得支离破碎。自
1534年起，通过一系列法律，Henry开始切断罗马对英国教会的控制，并对国内亲罗马
教廷的势力严厉打击。这些打击就包括了1536年通过Dissolution of the Lesser
Monasteries Act这个法律解散大量的修道院，这个不仅仅是打击亲罗马的势力，也是
为国王增加收入的办法。该法律不仅仅间接导致了Anne Boleyn和Cromwell的决裂，同
时也直接导致了英格兰北方的叛乱。这就是在发生在约克郡的著名的Pilgrimage of
Grace。其实广义上的Pilgrimage of Grace最初是从林肯郡... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5581 | 8 上次写到Lord Latimer娶了新寡不久的Catherine Parr。此时距他的第二任妻子去世已
经两年了，所以他也并非急着结婚，一定是Catherine身上的一些特质吸引了他。这些
特质恐怕也是Henry后来看上她的原因。他们是在1534年结婚的，就在前一年，Henry和
他的第二任王后Anne Boleyn结婚，并且开始加快英国的宗教改革进程。Lord Latimer
在宗教上属于保守的天主教，很快，他的生活就被宗教改革的大潮扯得支离破碎。自
1534年起，通过一系列法律，Henry开始切断罗马对英国教会的控制，并对国内亲罗马
教廷的势力严厉打击。这些打击就包括了1536年通过Dissolution of the Lesser
Monasteries Act这个法律解散大量的修道院，这个不仅仅是打击亲罗马的势力，也是
为国王增加收入的办法。该法律不仅仅间接导致了Anne Boleyn和Cromwell的决裂，同
时也直接导致了英格兰北方的叛乱。这就是在发生在约克郡的著名的Pilgrimage of
Grace。其实广义上的Pilgrimage of Grace最初是从林肯郡... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2617 | 10 VOLUME ONE
Chapter I: The Extent Of The Empire In The Age Of The Antonines
Chapter II: The Internal Prosperity In The Age Of The Antonines
Chapter III: The Constitution In The Age Of The Antonines
Chapter IV: The Cruelty, Follies And Murder Of Commodus
Chapter V: Sale Of The Empire To Didius Julianus
Chapter VI: Death Of Severus, Tyranny Of Caracalla, Usurpation Of Marcinus
Chapter VII: Tyranny Of Maximin, Rebellion, Civil Wars, Death Of Maximin
Chapter VIII: State Of Persion And Restoration Of ... 阅读全帖 |
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oxthigh (老是肚饿) 于 (Thu Jul 19 12:20:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
欧洲的原始史料可比咱中国的丰富多了，只要你愿意去找
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romo (romo) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:00:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
行为艺术？ 欧洲没有老中那样的典藏制度， 古代历史基本靠编。
一个类似的例子是阿三， 阿三的文明程度科比欧洲高多了， 丫的历史还要靠大唐西域
记来还原。 像欧洲那样突然发现柏拉图的理想国几百万字巨著的厚脸皮程度， 棒子是
差太远了。
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Diaowai (Waiting for suckers rally) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:17:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个算是闭着眼睛给母猪打口红的例子了。
你读过几部欧洲的“原始资料”？
我是看过几本欧洲古典历... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 312 | 12 请问出处。貌似最先进北京的是美军。是中国百姓帮的忙。Documents of the Boxer
Rebellion (China Relief Expedition), 1900-1901 |
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发帖数: 21077 | 13 还有什么义和团翻译成Boxer
太平军翻译成Taiping Rebellion
感觉都怪怪的。
我觉得还是美国人对韩战翻译精确：直接叫对方Red Army，少了很多麻烦。 |
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发帖数: 21077 | 14 对啊，看英文看多了自然就会反过来翻译。
比如常凯申啊，Boxer Rebellion啊，2nd Sino-Japanese War啊。
我觉得还是英文精确一些。比如“抗日战争”就根本不知道是谁跟谁在打，直译成英文
没人看得懂，所以说中文很不精确，但一旦说2nd Sino-Japanese War就很明显了。
比如2nd Ming-Manchu War之类的，都是可以精确指代时间的。 |
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发帖数: 2617 | 15 首先你一开头就犯了一个很普遍的错误，你提到”普鲁士“一度被波兰控制，这句话的
字面意义没有错，但是根据你的语境，你是在把被波兰控制的普鲁士公国和后来发展起
来的普鲁士王国算作一起了。这个是以前赵蜥蜴也常爱犯的错误。后来的普鲁士王国，
其核心统治区域是以柏林为中心的勃兰登堡地区，该地区从来没有被波兰控制。勃兰登
堡选侯后来通过继承关系兼领了普鲁士公国，再后来选侯想称王，但是不能违反神圣罗
马帝国内部无王爵的潜规则，于是把自己的国王头衔定义为帝国之外的普鲁士国王。因
此之前的普鲁士和之后的普鲁士有本质上的不同，不能简单作为一个传承关系来讨论。
当然，这是一个技术性错误，这不影响我赞同你的这个观点：国家是动态的。
接下来，根据你的这个观点，你想把波兰的悲剧从我讨论中的18世纪波兰之被瓜分，扩
展为波兰国家一直以来的“悲剧”。你说你之前早就“开宗明义”的说过了——这真的
没有。你的原帖开头：“波兰如果说有悲剧，那就是两边德国和俄国都大国崛起了。尤
其普鲁士的崛起。” 德国和俄国大国崛起的时代，尤其是普鲁士的崛起，恰恰好好就
是波兰被三分的年代，你开宗明义展开的讨论正是波兰三分的讨论，没有别的引... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8565 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: jhe123 (jhe), 信区: Military
标 题: 中国人千万不能重犯汉唐时大量接受异族的错误
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 21 23:29:36 2017, 美东)
操他妈的，非我族类其心必异，果不其然啊！！！这个傻逼还号称自己喜欢中国文化和
历史，比很多中国人都更“中国”，结果下面这段话就暴露出丫始终是个蛮夷。居然说
中国人杀光羯人仅仅是因为他们的白皮？后赵对汉人犯下的罪行，灭他一回族已经是便
宜他们了。
The Jie people, who were probably of Central
Asian stock, established the Later Zhao dynasty but were massacred shortly
thereafter, around A.D. 350. The killings were said to be based on their
Caucasian looks, and many bearded people were killed ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12072 | 17 You do not judge a policy by "whether there is a rebellion or not". You must
judge a policy by "whether the situation grows better or not".
Before 1958, we have very little control of Tibet. After the "1958年的西藏
暴乱", we have a better control of Tibet.
So what do you think of the policy at that time? |
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发帖数: 4718 | 18 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/world/asia/07china.html?_r=1&hp
By ANDREW JACOBS and JONATHAN ANSFIELD
Published: October 6, 2010
BEIJING — With just a day until the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, the usual
whirl of speculation over the winner is in full force, with many human
rights advocates contending that an imprisoned Chinese dissident, Liu Xiaobo
, has emerged as the favorite.
If selected, Mr. Liu, a former literature professor who has spent the last
20 years cycling in and out of Chinese... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 27535 | 19 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/world/asia/07china.html?_r=1&hp
Unusual Opposition to a Favorite for Nobel
By ANDREW JACOBS and JONATHAN ANSFIELD
Published: October 6, 2010
BEIJING — With just a day until the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, the usual
whirl of speculation over the winner is in full force, with many human
rights advocates contending that an imprisoned Chinese dissident, Liu Xiaobo
, has emerged as the favorite.
If selected, Mr. Liu, a former literature professor who has spent the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 14642 | 20 indian rebellion of 1857，当时尼泊尔军给英军立了汗马功劳所以阿三对尼泊尔的黄
杂阿三一直耿耿于怀 |
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发帖数: 4605 | 21
从ChinaNews找到了。
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: DocWiki (DocWiki.Org), 信区: Military
标 题: UCLA开放课程：Fall and Rise of China
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 28 01:59:53 2010, 美东)
发信人: DocWiki (DocWiki.Org), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: UCLA开放课程：Fall and Rise of China
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 28 01:59:28 2010, 美东)
这是网上找到的最全的集合
电驴迅雷现在都拖不动了
TTC出的，在这个对版权保护近乎痴狂的公司删除视频以前
欲下从速
UCLA开放教程：Fall and Rise of China
中国的兴与衰
下载链接：
http://www.fileserve.com/file/yYZSm8c/01- The Splendor That Was China, 600-1
700.avi
http://www.fileserv... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24887 | 22 The common belief in the west is that Haiti as a country was cursed long
time ago when the slaves rose to rebellion against their colonist masters
many of whom were said to be executed. Given this "belief", I doubt these
people in the developed part of the west really care about Haitians. |
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发帖数: 6566 | 23 时代不同了。13年前，江总访美的时候，小克也像今天小奥这样热情接待过老江，可那
时候，美国人是居高临下，把中国当小学生看待，时不时会指点指点、训导训导。而眼
下胡总访美，却让很多美国人心里酸酸的，也说不出是高兴还是难受，反正不太自在吧
。按理说，胡总来一趟，就签了四五百亿的商业合同，美国人应当高兴才对。可当他们
把美国和中国的现况一比，比出差距了，比得不那么自信了，甚至不只是不自信，而是
有点不知所措，有些失落感了。这不，我下面要向大家介绍的这篇文章，作者干脆认输
了。连搞资本主义也干不过中国，那美国人还有什么值得骄傲的呢？
（声明，为了方便，这里采用意译加趣译）
Why China Does Capitalism Better than the U.S.
By Tony Karon
始于2008年的全球经济衰退，让我们看到一个最据伟大讽刺意义的事实，即共产党统治
的中国，竟然比我们美国的民选政府，更会应负和处理资本主义的危机。中国的经济刺
激方案，开支比俺们的还要大，对抗经济衰退的效果也好得多啊。他们的钱大多用在建
设基础设施，从而进一步奠定了将来经济发展的基础。你看看他们建了多少楼... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 17722 | 24 华盛顿的埃及噩梦 （ZT）
你可以用以下的阿拉伯半岛电视台的连接看埃及的现场新闻直播：
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Published on Friday, January 28, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
Washington's Egyptian Nightmare
by Gary Olson
As I watch events unfolding on the streets of Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt and
elsewere in the region I'm reminded of a summer I spent in Egypt studying
Arabic language and Middle East politics at The American University in Cairo
. For a time I was booked into the upscale Shepheard Hotel (on the Fulbright
Commission's... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1769 | 25 民主大国果然是不一样
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268044
The China Link
•Chinese labourers brought to northeastern India by the British in
early 19th century to work in tea gardens
•They were concentrated in Makum, Shillong and Tezpur
•Over 2,000 arrested after the ’62 Chinese aggression, ostensibly “
to be protected”, but actually to be monitored, at Deoli, Rajasthan
•More than half of them sent to China; some families split up. No
apology ever rendered.
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发帖数: 27535 | 26 Its economy is going gangbusters, and it barely felt the global recession
that has left the world's most advanced nations with a nasty hangover. It
has cornered the market on some of the world's most valuable minerals. It
has a fancy new stealth fighter, proof that it can turn out world-class
technology. And its parents are raising overachieving kids who seem way
smarter than the slackers slouching around in America's schools.
[See why you might be better off than you think.]
China is clearly on... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6973 | 27 I will give you a scenario.
(1) Precedents:
(a) Japan on the eve of Pearl Harbor: salivating over oil in Dutch Indonesia.
(b) Operation Barbarossa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
(The German economy needed more oil and controlling the Baku Oilfields would
achieve this; as Albert Speer, the German Minister for Armaments and War
Production, later said in his interrogation, "the need for oil certainly was
a prime motive" in the decision to invade.[37])
Ref 37: Yergin, Daniel (1991... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5096 | 28 叫做boxer rebellion
说是愚昧暴力，和民主扯不上边
说杀戮爱好和平给中国人送去科技的欧美8国工程师科学家团队。 |
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发帖数: 24887 | 29 At Oberlin College in Ohio, they erected a big monument (for a small liberal
arts and science college) at the very center of the campus quad memorizing
the several people originating from there who were "murdered" in the so-
called "Boxer Rebellion". I wonder how many similar monuments were built
elsewhere in this country. |
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发帖数: 5096 | 30 我认识的这个老太说她祖父就是因为boxer rebellion逃离中国，说当年在中国富裕的很
，有财产有地产的，我问她她祖父做啥生意，她说药材方面的，我说是不是鸦片，丫说
包括医用的鸦片。
liberal
memorizing |
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发帖数: 1233 | 31 By Mohamed Hussein BBC Monitoring
One week after the United Nations Security Council authorized the use of
military force in Libya, a solution to the country's crisis appears nowhere
in sight.
The Gaddafi regime remains entrenched in the west and the "rebels" continue
to control the east, from Libya's second city of Benghazi to the Egyptian
border, raising the spectre of stalemate and the de facto division of the
country.
The UN resolution
Security Council Resolution 1973, passed on 17 March, ca... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10330 | 32 Gaddafi Troops Raping, Issued Viagra: U.S. Envoys
By Louis Charbonneau
UNITED NATIONS | Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:59pm EDT
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.S. envoy to the United Nations told the
Security Council on Thursday that troops loyal to Libyan leader Muammar
Gaddafi were increasingly engaging in sexual violence and some had been
issued the impotency drug Viagra, diplomats said.
Several U.N. diplomats who attended a closed-door Security Council
meeting on Libya told Reuters that U.S. Ambassador... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5177 | 33 宪法修正案#14
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized
by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for
services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. |
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发帖数: 12955 | 34
If NATO didn't get involved, the rebellion would have been crushed within
the first 2 weeks. Even with NATO involvement, a couple months or so ago,
the rebels still couldn't see how they would win. It's only until now, when
Khadafi's forces has run out of everything, that it crumbled. |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 35 Hugh White, China Shifts Pacific Waters With Its Aircraft Carrier Trials>
Brisbane Times, Aug 30, 2011 (available now).
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics
/china-shifts-pacific-waters-with-its-aircraft-carrier-trials-20110829-1jib4
.html
("But only aircraft carriers offer the round-the-clock protection for other
ships needed to achieve sea control. The catch is, you need carriers to
achieve sea control, but you need sea control to deploy your carriers.")
My comment: We all know tha... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 26355 | 36 Now the city folks dominate the society, no more farmers rebellion. |
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发帖数: 12955 | 38
Are these descriptions of the boxer rebellion wrong? Was it not 愚昧? But
was it not at the same time a revolutionary movement against Imperialist and
the Qing government?
Just because there are factors that you failed to learn before, doesn't make
the history text book wrong. |
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w**j
发帖数: 1032 | 39 The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible,
especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be
killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing
your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to
these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's
irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any
rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9007 | 40 Is today 1844 alike?
How Marx Came to Discover the Alienation of Labor: Mary Gabriel
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How Marx Came to Discover the Alienation of Labor: Mary Gabriel
By Mary Gabriel - Sep 21, 2011
Joblessness was liberating for Karl Marx in 1844 -- it meant he could go
back to school. His classrooms were Paris’ gaslit cafes and wine cellars,
and small offices filled with cigar smoke.
There were no lectures, there were... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 26222 | 41 非也， obama父亲是穆斯林， 母亲这边确实犹太系的，他实际上穆斯林和犹太杂合体
Obama's Jewish "Irish" Grandfather
October 7, 2009
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(Baruch Obama's grandfather, Stanley "Dunham")
Visiting Ireland, Obama jokes about restoring the hyphen in O'bama.
Wikipedia waxes about his grandfather's "Irish" antecedents but my Jew-dar
isn't buying it.
by Henry Makow, Ph.D.
(Originally Posted in Oct. 2007)
If you Google "America's First Jewish President," you'll find links to many
Jewish publications "kvelling" (yiddish for boasti... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1504 | 42 【 以下文字转载自 Apple 讨论区 】
发信人: toptip (土翁), 信区: Apple
标 题: 创新灵魂乔布斯
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 14 14:23:15 2011, 美东)
本人从来就是电子产品的落伍者，不过乔布斯死后媒体把他作为“创新灵魂”来报道，
引起了我的兴趣。于是自己也凑了把热闹，预订了一本《STEVE JOBS》，想看看他是如
何创新的。
由于自己习惯了window操作系统，每次不得不用Mac的时候都会很恼火（很多快捷键设
置与windows不同）。媒体对苹果有品位的描述，让我第一次仔细打量了一下苹果电脑
。除了all in one（主机和显示器整合为一），无缝简洁的外壳，极具观赏性的键盘鼠
标，我还注意到了电脑支架设计的独具匠心：其它电脑的支架设计了很多的连接结构，
而且调整起来也颇费力；苹果就简简单单的一个可伸入主机的L型支架，上下左右旋转
都很随意，去掉了很少用得上的上下调节功能。有点意思哦！
这个“有点意思”加上点好奇的动力，让我很快读完了这本大部头。
很不幸，虽然曾贵为CNN的头，并且写过爱恩斯坦和富兰克林的传记，作者W... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 15526 | 43 又称义和拳。反对的中国人也叫这帮人拳匪。你说怎么翻译？ |
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c****i
发帖数: 7933 | 45 这帮人无恶不作，烧了《永乐大典》，是不是叛乱？ |
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c****u
发帖数: 8308 | 46 如果是一页一页翻清史稿你可能再往后翻那么半页就不问这问题了吧。这定义是慈禧被
打败了刚逃出北京没几天就定性了，让李鸿章从两广北返时就这么说了吧：拳乱。那时
可能刚跑到怀来县还没到太原呢，也不知道议和条件呢，孝钦后自己就这么下诏定义了
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发帖数: 649 | 47 清廷根本就不真的想反洋人，不听朝廷话，让朝廷下不来台，可不就是叛乱吗？ |
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L*****G
发帖数: 12375 | 49 Boxing是拳击，Boxer是拳击手。义和团又名义和拳，拳脚功夫了得，洋枪洋炮挡不住。 |
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E**s
发帖数: 514 | 50 The way to put down a civilized rebellion is either to strike back with
brutal force or intellectual overriding, neither of which is at the hands of
GCD... |
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