l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 1 都是活塞运动， but depth makes all the difference. |
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 5 明显白菜的碗了。
正弦运动周期向上。再赢两场到顶，然后狗淫荡吧 |
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s***5
发帖数: 203 | 8 It would be interesting to see John Elways. I would assume his is somehow a
mirror reflection of Tom Brady's (lost 3 SB first then won 2). |
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w******g
发帖数: 2047 | 9 John Elway每次进超级碗也是要先赢好几场的，所以肯定不会那样
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L****T
发帖数: 64 | 10 This is actually true in certain sense.
Baseball is the national pastime. American Football gain popularity in
recent 30 to 40 years. It is the NO1 sport.
Most of kids take part in certain baseball teams during before their high
school year.
Actually those 2 sports are not completely separated. There are a lot of QBs
are very good baseball players and drafted by MLB too. Wilson(Seahawks)is
one of the example. kaepernick(49ers)is another example.
The throwing motion and mechanic are slightly diff... 阅读全帖 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 11 全是NFL QBs 全都被职棒挑中过
这些人里 已经有两个人进了NFL名人堂 有5个人拿过MVP
一共去过17次超级碗 而且名单上每一个人都打出过十胜的NFL赛季
原来阿汤做过C 怪不得速度全没了
And Peyton! 你高中的时候干什么去了？ |
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 12 It is too often great secondary gets beaten up by great QBs with good
weapons. if PM gets the protection like AFCC, this SB could be a quite
boring game.
Seahawks
weakness
put
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l****l
发帖数: 3394 | 13 if we are talking about football IQ, he is probably one of the worst amongst
young qbs. |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 14 Manning was the second overall pick in the 1971 NFL Draft and played for the
Saints for ten full seasons.[8] He was usually one of the few marquee
players on a dreadful team.
In 1972 he led the league in pass attempts and completions and led the
National Football Conference in passing yards, though the team's record was
only 2–11–1. Archie sat out the entire 1976 season after corrective
surgery on his right shoulder. In 1978, he was named the NFC Player of the
Year by UPI after leading the Saint... 阅读全帖 |
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c*l
发帖数: 1433 | 15 why? If you beat them, you beat 2 elite QBs in one game. |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 16 Second that. When I watched RW's Badgers game for the first time, I was
wondering where the hell was this guy from. He looked very established. How
could that kind of players have backed up for the garbage Tolzien? To be
frank, traditional Badgers games were ugly because dominating OLs were
consistently protecting below average QBs. |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 17 SB starting QBs from AFC and NFC since 2003-04 season:
AFC(4):
Brady(4), P. Manning(3), Roethlisberger(3), Flacco
NFC(10):
E. Manning(2), Kaepernick, Rogers, Brees, Warner, Wilson, Delhomme, McNabb,
Hasselbeck, Grossman
Teams made conference championship game since 2003-04 season:
AFC(7):
NE(7), PIT(4), BAL(3), IND(3), DEN(2), NYJ(2), SD(1)
NFC(11)：
SF(3), PHI(3), SEA(2), ATL(2), NO(2), CHI(2), GB(2), NYG(2), NC(2), ARI(1),
MIN(1) |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 18 no.. it just shows you what a good defense can do. there have been much bett
er running QBs than wilson before, none of them was successful (as in
winning
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 19 Like I said, he relied so much on timing. Once hawks jammed the receivers,
he's just ordinary. Different from mediocre, because he's still smarter, but
his arm is weaker than mediocre QBs |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 20 what almost? CK could have killed Hawks by a 10 point lead
even in the game that Hawks scored 13 unanswered points?
Or even better, in the stadium that 9ers gave up 42 points?
You are the idiot bitching about Broncos hardly could get
a first down. I'm lecturing you it's not a miracle or
conspiracy to start a game by hardly getting a first down,
especially for an old QB who can't make any long throw.
Yes, even Schaub was better than PM to get a first down.
You are just too blind to see it takes m... 阅读全帖 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 21 Second this. Mobile QB have the advantage of surviving with
crappy OL like RW did. That's big in salary cap environment,
but they still have the higher risk of getting injured than
pocket QB. On top of that, extremely few mobile QB have
RW's brain, intangibles or accuracy. So only time can tell.
ps: mobile QBs are more likely to wear cap backwards. I support that theory. |
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R*******a
发帖数: 2463 | 22 扣子
Young QBs own NFL right now
大拉克在young QB里是最优秀的 |
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发帖数: 6388 | 23 http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/former-bears-gm-jerr
Former Chicago Bears GM (2001-2012) Jerry Angelo rates every quarterback
from the 2013 NFL season on his nine-point scale. Angelo's notes are
included.
8.9 Peyton Manning
8.8 Tom Brady
8.8 Aaron Rodgers
8.8 Andrew Luck
8.7 Drew Brees
8.6 Philip Rivers
8.6 Cam Newton
8.5 Ben Roethlisberger
8.4 Russell Wilson
8.4 Colin Kaepernick
8.3 Alex Smith
8.0 Nick Foles
7.9 Matt Ryan
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 25 Besides himself, how many GM will take Newton over Wilson? |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 26 哎呀 我其实觉得常规赛Newton带队不错。。。 季后赛有点显原形而已 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 28 看样子, 曼宁还能打4, 5年。不过两三年估计就能超发叔了。
还有, 老朱的坡度够陡的, 打破记录只是时间问题。 |
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c******n
发帖数: 7263 | 29 就传球来说，400TD以上可以算超级QB了，当然joe cool笑而不语 |
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x******2
发帖数: 4034 | 30 白菜491 vs 老发 508，基本上再来半个赛季就破了，不过屁用没有
人蒙大拿273，GOAT |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 33 幸亏曼宁伤停了一年, 不然发叔就剩个抄截记录了。 |
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c******n
发帖数: 7263 | 34 有没有历史专家分析一下为什么1960到七十年代十多年没有出过牛qb |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 36 那时候都是跑攻为先。要是蓝宝帝现在做教练，什么曼宁老朱肉末麦软，这些仍球过多
的QB，通通板凳之。
牛QB其实不少，比如绿湾的Bart Starr，只是不是数据牛人而已。还有那个时候的play
call，全是QB场上叫的，曼宁现在的audibles，也只是小菜一碟。 |
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d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 37 其实知道本世纪之前 进攻基本还是跑为主 传球是打冷枪 |
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发帖数: 4091 | 38 Brady今年还需41个才能进400大关啊 估计没希望了... |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 40 支持你军2nd round pick换我拍大锤
Ryan Mallet说真的比这一片QBs都靠谱
身高 Arm Decision要啥有啥 还熟悉Bill O'Brian的体系 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 41 You can deny being biased against CK as a Seahawks fan, but being a GM of an
NFL team, and looking from the business prospectives, there are many teams
will not hesitate paying CK 18M/yr.
CK may never develop to be a pure pocket passing QB like Manning, Brady,
Rodgers, or even Ryan and Romo. Everyone knows that. However, don't deny his
other talents. You don't force a talented player into a mold. He doesn't
have to be like any of the top QBs to be a great QB. They almost beat you in
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 42
I didn't say he's the worst one among all 32 starting QBs.
I was arguing against lpx's point of "If the Seahawks and the 49ers both
have to pay 18M a year to Wilson and CK, who will hurt the team more? I
would say it's probably Wilson to the Seahawks." On-field or off-field, I
just can't see how that can be accurate.
Or you can prove either of the following 2 is false:
a) CK played like shit when Crabtree was injured;
b) CK is the worst player among 9ers O's starting 11. We can't say the same
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 43 So when Crabtree is playing, who's the worst starter
in 9ers O starting lineup? Bruce Miller is an effective
if not dominant FB, and certainly ranks higher in FBs
than CK ranks in QBs. Maybe you are pointing to the old Gore?
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 44 三个奖项，截止时间为选秀开始前，系统时间为准
老规矩，不许修改，如果修改请重贴，顺序以最后为准（如果修改就放弃原帖位置）
征集统计员，5个包子
slot award：
仅按照顺位 （不管交换）:
slot 1: 1 baozi
slot 2-5: 2 baozi
slot 6-10: 3 baozi
slot 11-20: 4 baozi
slot 21-32: 6 baozi
以上每人限猜 3 slots，每个slot取前两个猜中者
manager award：
提名任何两队的trade 猜中一队立即奖励一个包子 猜中两队四个包子
每人限提名一次（两队） 任何单一猜中球队限发两个包子 猜中两队无限制
position award：
1. how many qbs selected in round 1? (1 baozi, limit 3)
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? (2 baozi, limit 3)
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? (1 baozi, limit 3)
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k***r
发帖数: 13724 | 45 有包子不拿白不拿啊
1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 1
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 2
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 3
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1? 4
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 5
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 6
slot 1: texans Jadeveon Clowney
slot 2-5: texans Jadeveon Clowney
slot 11-20 New York Giants: Zack Martin, OL, Notre Dame. |
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d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 46 slot award： 抄专家的
1 JADEVEON CLOWNEY
2 GREG ROBINSON
3 KHALIL MACK
manager award：
拍子 和49
29换一个二轮 三轮末 五轮外带一个49的rb
49更有可能直接trade up 抓个wr
position award：
1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 4
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 4
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 0
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1？ 5
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 17
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 15 |
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G*********s
发帖数: 6786 | 47 1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 2
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 1
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 2
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1 2
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 12
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 18 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 48 slot award：
slot 1: clowney
slot 2-5: clowney
slot 8: justin albert
slot 32: xavier sua-filo
manager award：
SF and Ram
position award：
1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 1
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 2
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 0
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1? 3
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 17
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 17 |
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J*******1
发帖数: 622 | 49 1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 2
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 6
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 0
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1? 8
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 15
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 17
slot3: K Mack
slot6-10: J Matthews
slot 12: Z martin
manager award: Rams, Alt |
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R*3
发帖数: 11814 | 50 主要是怕被大家耻笑，算了，豁出去了。（从布哥的帖子稍微修改一下。呵呵。）
slot award： 抄专家的
1 JADEVEON CLOWNEY
2 GREG ROBINSON
3 KHALIL MACK
manager award：
SEAHAWKS 和49
seahawks trade down 1st round.
49更有可能直接trade up 抓个wr
position award：
1. how many qbs selected in round 1? 4
2. how many wrs selected in round 1? 4
3. how many rbs selected in round 1? 0
4. how many secondaries (cb/saftey) in round 1？ 5
5. how many offensive players in round 1? 17
6. how many defensive players in round 1? 15 |
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