T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 1 1 and 3 count a lot
For snow fluke thing, it is an interesting point. But one has to know what
exact the snow fluke is and how to use it, otherwise, it is a disaster.
Snow fluke is rarely used in PNW. |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 2 I have no personal experience about alaska snow, but I guess it definitely
not as wet as PNW snow
At least we see plastic shovel works in video |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 3 今年西边普遍雪不错
CO, UT,PNW降雪都很早
貌似tahoe雪场也开了
南加不知道今年能不能像两年前那么大雪 |
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p*******r
发帖数: 180 | 4 Thanks to the arctic conditions we had in the PNW, Peter and I were
fortunate to get a taste of ice in the frigid Columbia Rive gorge
yesterday. First stop at the Crown Jewel, a 2P WI3+/4. Had to wait for an
hour in the bitching cold since two parties were up there. One of them
kept knocking down ice chunks the size of baseball. Then continued heading
east and found a short chandelier route, WI5ish, don't know the name. It
was fun but too short. Final stop at a much bigger fall where Peter has
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 5 一年才一次课，跟PNW没法比。而且人多，我第一天报名(日期存outlook里了），gym里
另一个人过了几天就没报上，满了 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 6 pnw的课也是一年一次
错过了，就只能等下一年了 |
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k*****a
发帖数: 823 | 7 alaska完全没必要，一般人去的季节30F的睡袋足够足够，而且太阳11点落山，只要不
下雨帐篷里很热。除非你不是夏天去。
个人感觉没必要waterproof面料，太重又不好压缩，不过在PNW和alaska这种很湿的地
方还是可以考虑的。 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 8 It is not hard to gain glacier travel experience. Take crevass rescue class,
come to PNW for one or two weeks in summer to climb some glaciated peaks.
How to rig a sled and travelling with 100lbs sled on glacier and steep terri
an is challenging though.
You need serious physical training, which you can do anywhere.
You need winter surviving skill training, which you can do in SoCal as well.
return. |
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p**********t
发帖数: 2636 | 9 Sounds really fun! Someone told me that PNW has some 20+ pitch sport route.
Is that true?
steps
car
last |
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p**********t
发帖数: 2636 | 10 这样啊，zd还说pnw两个小时以内就算roadside了。 |
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 11 赞图文并茂。
要玩mountaineering还是PNW好，随便一拉就是十个人，住在南加州是没指望了 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 12 嗯，所谓西雅图（或者pnw）降雨多，是说降雨时间长，一年差不多下半年，和降雨量
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T********d
发帖数: 621 | 13 这景象真和PNW的大不同啊，这么高的地方都没雪！ |
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T********d
发帖数: 621 | 14 太同意了。
我在PNW爬的face，到了yosomite一点也用不上！
yosomite全是crack,lieback，chimney。好不容易有个face climb,就是在snake dike
的friction! 竟然还是yosemite定义上的run out! 又是traverse!那墙上可是啥也没有
啊，全靠脚下功夫。
记得那会子，pink同学问我：为什么buzzy同学戴着手套lead？ 我说，他觉得冷，再说
，这friction, 手也没啥用啊。 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 15 肥猫不是问么，给你写个初步的印象。
简单的说，很不错。
1.full shank的，非3/4 shank。 spec上说是适合攀mix路线，我当时就是从这上推测应
该是full shank，看来没错
2.重量轻，比我的plastic boots轻多了，应该适合alpine climb
3.在家里穿了一下，很合脚舒适，但是没穿出去走路，具体走路是否舒服，留着以后汇
报
4. edging很不错，我试了一下用脚尖一点点踩着楼梯边缘上楼，没任何问题
5. 可以fit所有crampons
现在不确定的是是否暖和，鞋不厚，不知道能否用来在PNW做winter climb，明年1,2月
份可以试试
另外，这个鞋自带雪套，但是这个雪套太瘦，套在腿上很不舒服，设计非常鸡肋，不如
不要，或者设计一个可以调节大小的。
先总结这么多。等以后真正用了之后再update |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 16 In PNW winter, forget about softshell... |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 17 Wrong
taking mountaineering class greatly increases your chance of finding climb
partners.
Most of mountaineering club in PNW started in early spring. After you finish
the class, the climbing season is right on. If you climb 5-10 peaks each
summer, you'll never forget the skills you learned. |
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a******g
发帖数: 320 | 18 Taking a class and practicing the full season is almost equivalent to
moving to PNW. I was talking about commercial training camps. I've
heard enough stories about inefficiency of nonprofit mountaineering clubs.
My personal experience is also consistent---I learnt more from one week
of commercial kayaking training than a full-semester of school club training.
The problem is that I don't think I can find climbing partners after
the training camp, as mountaineering clubs seem to be the norm here... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 19 tons of white water: white salmon river, tieton river, deschutes river,
santiam river ...
skiing: timberline (year round), hood meadows, mt bachelor (the best in PNW!
), and a few other small resorts |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 20 2-day scramble。星期六早上6点半起床，7点20在Ashway集合，一辆车4个人开到Mazam
北边9 miles的trailhead都已接近中午了，Richard的trip时间安排的从来都很休闲，
我喜欢。路上看到一辆车，后面贴着两个大大的stick，一个写着“Search & Rescue”
，一个写着“Support Search & Rescue? Get Lost”，哈哈哈哈。HWY-20上依旧很晕
车；Washington Pass两侧的山峰还是那么峭立，让人看着就想爬；Mazam路边的小桥、
流水、营地亲切如故，第三次来了，一切都仿佛只在昨天。Trailhead就在路边，另外
两辆车的5个人已经到了。刚开始是沿着峡谷的一侧往北走，trail很长也很平缓。峡谷
里有流水，隔着近的时候能听见潺潺的水声。这个峡谷走到尽头，转过一个弯，还有另
一个峡谷需要穿。这段几乎不怎么升高的路走起来感觉很漫长，尤其是在第二天出来的
时候... 1点经过第二座桥，右手边有一条掩在丛林中的瀑布。过桥之后右手边马上有
一条爬坡的岔路，说是climber's trail，其实condit... 阅读全帖 |
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T********d
发帖数: 621 | 21 第四天： 这天是Christmas day.所有的地方都不开门。
我们去了Tucson西边的Saguaro National Park. Visitor Center不开。我们走了个
Hugh Norris Trail （part).
吃了午餐后，开车去了Sabino Canyon Recreation Area.这有个lake.人好多，尽管是
Christmas day,shuttle和vistor center都不开，还是好多人。我们走了大概３迈
round-trip。没trail map,岔口有没sign,我们没走太多。这个trail上好多trail
running的。Tucsan是个好地方。街道都有bike lane.
事实上，Tucsan确实是个好地方。很多人退休了都住那。我们早餐在McDonald's, 除了
我们俩外，其他所有的人都至少６０岁以上。
从Sabina出来，我们去了Mt. Lemmon. 这个对于西北的我们来说是unbeliverable.开车
从2000ft，一直到over 8000ft. 从desert开到pine land,开到ski resort. 往... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******o
发帖数: 669 | 22 Looks like sunny summer days will finally come to PNW after 7/4. 3 climbs a
year for me. I am hoping to get all 3 in July before my bike touring and
family camping trips in August. |
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l*******o
发帖数: 669 | 23 This (as well as ycc's earlier posting) is shocking to me. If you really
think there is more than a remote chance you may not come back alive, if you
are not confident you can lead the climb given the skills of the team and
the weather/route condition, then why go for such a climb?
Regarding Alex's posting on lack of organized climbing activities (by
Chinese I assume) here at PNW, I agree with that's said here. If Rainier is
your goal, the entry barrier is a bit high. For other easier/lesser
mou... 阅读全帖 |
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 25 进Oregon了，不过这几天PNW气温也够高的。 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 27 关雪场主要是因为大风吧
在PNW，下雪天滑雪太正常了，基本上每次都是
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 29 There were a lot of debates on choosing stud tires or studless snow tires. S
tud tires work well on icy road, but not in soft/slushy snow condition. Stud
dless snow tires, on the other hand, perform better on wet or snowy road, st
ill work on icy road (but not as good as stud tires) . It seemed that
studless winter tires became more and more popular.
Different states may have different regulartions on when and where to use st
ud tires. in PNW, stud tires are only permited between Nov.1 and Mar.1... 阅读全帖 |
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r***t
发帖数: 505 | 30 想去一下大雪场，Corolado，Utah或者Lake Tahoe.
希望的是雪比较干一点的，和PNW的雪况不一样的地儿。 |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 31 呵呵呵，那就真是PNW滑雪团了，我这里我认识的滑雪的人也有10个人左右，但都没那
么铁杆，偶尔碰上了就一起滑。其余时间都各自为战，比较松散，到节日的时候会比较
容易凑在一起。 |
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g*******y
发帖数: 1930 | 33 春雪融化不厉害的时候还是挺舒服的！我觉得比冬天的packed snow更舒服！版主要不
要考虑alta关门后来PNW滑春雪嘛～ |
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g*******y
发帖数: 1930 | 34 春雪融化不厉害的时候还是挺舒服的！我觉得比冬天的packed snow更舒服！版主要不
要考虑alta关门后来PNW滑春雪嘛～ |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 35 喜欢滑雪来我们SEA/KIR吧！PNW地区的几个雪场今年可是最早open的几个雪场之一，上
周110'的雪！即便今年是5年一次的暖冬，雪场感恩节也按时开门。虽然雪场规模不大
，雪况可能也不能跟CO，UTAH比，但是也还不错啦。最关键的，开车1个小时多点就到！ |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 36 东部比较icy，雪面相对平整，所以carving的多些？
确实我们这里PNW小雪场里看到carving的人比较少，即便是groom过的雪道，下午也会
变得稍微有些坑坑包包的。
不过我现在也是越来越觉得mogul比groomed run更fun更挑战 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 37 貌似你也是在PNW地区吧，我们说的不会是同一个雪场吧？
你说的twist貌似可以从hockey stop练起，刚刚开始很不习惯，慢慢习惯了twist
untwist的感觉就好些了 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 39 skiing at Stevens Pass, 2 feet pow!!!
best thing for me is that I can ski powder and enjoy it now!!! |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 40 对了，大家一般都用什么剪切压缩gopro的录像？一分钟要100mb YouTube伤不起啊！ |
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e*****e
发帖数: 1949 | 43 今天又去爽了，每个Run都是Fresh Track。 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 44 sigh，今年PNW地区气候也有点奇怪。都11月下旬了，seattle地区还整周晴天。。。10
月也差不多整个月没下雨。要不是上周来了场storm，不是就彻底催悲了。
我估计WA本地的stevens，crystal感恩节都要关门。
Whistler虽然有人工造雪，但是接下来一两周温度高，所以可能也要悲剧。 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 45 那很惨！虽然本来也就对whistler的雪期望不高就是了。不过同样是pnw地区，今天我
们WA本地雪场Stevens Pass的雪远超我预期，雪里水分蒸发了，groom过的道上一层浅
浅的powder滑起很舒服啊～ |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 46 我这几天在keystone CO.
double diamond上的coverage太差，太陡hold不住雪，除非来次大storm，不然没法开
。7th heaven开了有几个星期了，coverage还不错。不过听说后山终于开了，虽然我喜
欢的那片还是没开。
今年pnw地区的雪到现在确实下的太少了 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 47 别说Tahoe了，今年连一向雪量充足的pnw地区都闹雪荒 |
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r*******1
发帖数: 4394 | 48 在山那边的沙漠地带工作过一小段，很喜欢pnw的气候 世外桃源的赶脚。
那是水仙吗，和花盆配的真好 |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 49 四月份选择太多了
CO也有不少雪场开的
住宿一般也不贵，毕竟不是旺季了。PNW地区，timberline我觉得道更简单更平，景色
也很好，也许你会更enjoy。Crystal Mtn天气好的时候景色也不错，不过雪道偏难，随
便找个蓝道都不比很多别的雪场的黑道简单。
lift的话，如果连滑几天，买Spring Pass很划算，一百多块钱春天随便滑。 |
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r*******1
发帖数: 4394 | 50 住PNW真不错，daytrip有这么多雪场可以去。你家的两只双胞胎狗狗吗？ |
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