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l**********i
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打电话
推荐用
phonetic alphabet
提高效率减少误会
f***t
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来自主题: Joke版 - 月光你进来一下
除了北京,你还有三个啊(南昌,江西,上海)
再说了,你的笔记写的仅仅只是Spelling,并不是Phonetic啊。所以你写的那些和外国
人的发音没有啥关系吧?
z*********e
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https://np.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/7sheqn/when_i_hear_christians_
speaking_in_tongues/dt4ucro/
[–]QTCiceroAtheist 5973 points 1 day ago
I'm a graduate linguistics student and I can assure you that a huge amount
of research has been done into this phenomenon over the past century, mainly
by the Canadian linguist William Samarin.
Not only is no meaningful information communicated by these utterances, even
the very phonetic structure of the utterances proves that they are created
on the s... 阅读全帖
N****f
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来自主题: MiddleSchool版 - 学以致用
IPA=?
Google曰:
International Phonetic Alphabet
Innovations for Poverty Action
Independent Project Analysis
International Powerlifting Association
Investment Program Association
International Photography Awards
Independent Physician Association
etc. etc.
b*******M
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bpqd (核桃仁) 于 (Tue Feb 9 21:27:42 2010, 美东) 提到:
Update 2:
Many of you raised up a concept "面子" and tried to associate it with the listed criteria in
my original post. 面子, phonetically neat but holly complicated using in different situations.
If I take 面子 more important than a happy marriage, as stated by some here, I would not
even post such a post.
My listed criteria may sound strange, but none of them is related to 面子. Marriage is
not about 面子, I c
g******4
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - 谁有备份...

发信人: bpqd (核桃仁), 信区: Piebridge
标 题: 我也征. 发誓这次是认真的 (with update 2)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 9 21:27:42 2010, 美东)
Update 2:
Many of you raised up a concept "面子" and tried to associate it with the
listed criteria in
my original post. 面子, phonetically neat but holly complicated using in
different situations.
If I take 面子 more important than a happy marriage, as stated by some here,
I would not
even post such a post.
My listed criteria may sound strange, but none of them is related to 面子.
Marriage
g******4
发帖数: 6339
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - Re: 我也征, 发誓这次是认真的
发信人: bpqd (核桃仁), 信区: Piebridge
标 题: 我也征. 发誓这次是认真的 (with update 2)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 9 21:27:42 2010, 美东)
Update 2:
Many of you raised up a concept "面子" and tried to associate it with the
listed criteria in
my original post. 面子, phonetically neat but holly complicated using in
different situations.
If I take 面子 more important than a happy marriage, as stated by some here,
I would not
even post such a post.
My listed criteria may sound strange, but none of them is related to 面子.
Marriage
m****r
发帖数: 1904
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Strong's Concordance
poth: perhaps a hinge
Original Word: פּוֹת
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: poth
Phonetic Spelling: (pohth)
Short Definition: foreheads
你不同意没关系

Standard
m****r
发帖数: 1904
9
Strong's Concordance
poth: perhaps a hinge
Original Word: פּוֹת
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: poth
Phonetic Spelling: (pohth)
Short Definition: foreheads
你不同意没关系

Standard
m****r
发帖数: 1904
10
网上Strong's Concordance4416版本词义
http://biblehub.com/greek/4416.htm
prototokos: first-born
Original Word: πρωτότοκος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prototokos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)
Short Definition: first-born
Definition: first-born, eldest.
我手里的Strong's Concordance,4416:from 4413 and the alt.of 5088:first-born(
usually as noun.lit.or fig.):-firstbegotten (-born).
5088:to produce (from seed. as a mother, a plant, the earth,etc).lit.or fig.
:- bear, be born, ... 阅读全帖
N****f
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Quite a challenge to my phonetic imagination, but I got it eventually. :-)
N****f
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Quite a challenge to my phonetic imagination, but I got it eventually. :-)
m***y
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不得不说,字母文字在印刷时代沾便宜啊。而且learning curve不象汉语那么慢,现在
是普及9年义务教育了,啥也不干就上学,才把文盲率降下去了。
看看老美孩子,玩的那叫一个开心,头疼的也就是数学,还没有谁为语文过不去了,不
就是英语有phonetics吗?会说就能写个89不离10,汉语的书写和发音简直就是两套系
统。
不过这些都是三十年河东、三十年河西,现在电脑时代了,汉字输入起来就不慢了,而
且还信息量大,省篇幅。英语只能压到OMG,LOL,LMAO级别才能比,不过要是这些新造词
也算的话,汉语也可以“十动然据”“男默女泪”
c******n
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来自主题: Translation版 - 英语绝对是一门笨拙的语言
不完全对
文字的主要两大作用是:理解,表达
在理解性方面:
english是phonetic language, 用读音就可以把词义表达出来,i.e., tetra-cycl-ine
, 而中文是hieroglyphic, 像古老的已经被淘汰掉的埃及文字和玛雅文一样 不可以将
字音和字义联合起来,所以必须要组子成词.
所以当你听人讲中文,就等于电脑在做自动语言翻译,which system has higher
accuracy? the computerized chinese speech recognition system or the
computerized english speech recognition system? 美国人早就用voice
recognition software 了, 中国人呢?
在表达方面:
给一个object很多不同的单词就是为了制造语言的多层次性和准确性,因为每个单词有
不同的背景,这尤其在西方古时是作用很大的,你说的词可以让别人鉴别你的背景,也
可以精简的表答含义
退一步从理论上讲,追求准确的办法本来就应当是增加描述词汇,这无可厚非
T*******y
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来自主题: Translation版 - zz a joke on English
Here's more:
================================================
Things to ponder
Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?
Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii?
Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes?
Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when smoking is prohibited there?
Why do fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?
If you can't drink and drive, why do you need a driver's license to buy
liquor, and why do bars have parking lots?
Do you need a... 阅读全帖
j*****7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 没听过福音的人能否得救?
这个解释太“强大”了吧?不信就是不信,那还来的“信了又不信的”这么复杂
Strong's Number: 571 [ <<= || =>> ]
Transliterated: apistos
Phonetic: ap'-is-tos
Text: from 1 (as a negative particle) and 4103; (actively) disbelieving, i.e
. without Christian faith (specially, a heathen); (passively) untrustworthy
(person), or incredible (thing):
KJV --that believeth not, faithless, incredible thing, infidel, unbeliever(-
ing).
这个词也用在了下面这43个场合
j*****7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [一年读完圣经] 1/3 创世记6-9
原文这个词,可以泛指giant
Strong's Number: 5303 [ <<= || =>> ]
Transliterated: nphiyl
Phonetic: nef-eel'
Text: or nphil {nef-eel'}; from 5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or
tyrant:
KJV --giant.
j*****7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [一年读完圣经] 1/6 创世记 15-16
看来假神对这个问题非常执着
我们看看原文中这个词是怎么用的吧
Strong's Number: 8435 [ <<= || =>> ]
Transliterated: towldah
Phonetic: to-led-aw'
Text: or toldah {to-led-aw'}; from 3205; (plural only) descent, i.e. family;
(figuratively) history:
KJV --birth, generations.
j*****7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [一年读完圣经] 1/9 创世记 22-24
首先,原文的这个词
Strong's Number: 3373 [ <<= || =>> ]
Transliterated: yare'
Phonetic: yaw-ray'
Text: from 3372; fearing; morally, reverent:
KJV -afraid, fear (-ful).
有fear的意思,也有reverent的意思。并且fear也有敬畏的意思。
敬畏,和害怕,还是不一样的。害怕比较简单,就是对某件事情的恐惧而已。敬畏所包
含的意思,比较丰富了。
敬畏不仅包含害怕(例如罪人要害怕神的公义审判),也包含对神这位创造者应有的尊
敬。
神的公义和慈爱,如果可以平衡好的话,那样的人生就比较可以理解完整的敬畏了。
新约中对此也有提到
罗马书
8:15你们所受的不是奴仆的心,仍旧害怕。所受的乃是儿子的心,因此我们呼叫阿爸,
父。
8:16圣灵与我们的心同证我们是神的儿女。
神的选民与他的关系,不是一个害怕的关系,而是一个亲密的父子关系。父亲会有时严
厉管教儿女,但是父亲是爱儿女的。
q********g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 11月罗马书查经 - 第一章 (转载)
请贴一下
Luke 1:75 - In holiness and righteousness before Him all the days of our
life.
Romans 6:19 - I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh.
For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of
lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for holiness.
2 Corinthians 7:1 - Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us
cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting
holiness in th... 阅读全帖
q********g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【罗马书恢复本带注释查考】一1:4
“本书中的“圣”字,在希腊文里有:hagios(哈吉欧斯)、hagiosune(哈吉欧苏内
)、hagiazo(哈吉阿奏)、及hagiasmos(哈吉阿斯摩斯),都属同字根,基本意义是
分出,分别”
你在仔细看看到底是不是“基本意义是分出,分别”:
hagiósuné: holiness
Original Word: ἁγιωσύνη, ης, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hagiósuné
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-o-soo'-nay)
Short Definition: a holy or sanctified state
Definition: a holy or sanctified state.
Cognate: 42 hagiōsýnē (another feminine noun derived from 40 /há
gios) – holiness (sanctification) which focuses ... 阅读全帖
q********g
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发信人: qiaqiafeng ($_$), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Re: 11月罗马书查经 - 第一章
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 2 14:53:22 2011, 美东)
20 自从创造世界以来, 神那所看不见永远的大能, 和神性的特征, 是人所洞见的, 乃
是借着受造之物, 给人晓得的, 叫人无法推诿;
20 自从造天地以来, 神的永能和神性是明明可知的,虽是眼不能见,但藉着所造之物
就可以晓得,叫人无可推诿。
KJV with Strong's
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly
seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and
Godhead so that they are without excuse
ASV
20For the invisible things of him since the creation o... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 看了这个想到一个问题
应该是αἰῶνας
aión: a space of time, an age
Original Word: αἰών, ῶνος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aión
Phonetic Spelling: (ahee-ohn')
Short Definition: an age, a cycle of time
Definition: an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age as
contrasted with the future age, and of one of a series of ages stretching to
infinity.
O**********0
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 【罗马书恢复本查经】一1:4
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windking (Mr Doctor) 于 (Tue Nov 1 14:52:10 2011, 美东) 提到:
我觉得happybird姊妹这样一次贴一章,有点太快了。我觉得在最开始只用注释选摘就
好,不要贴生命读经,那样太多了。其实恢复本的注释很多都是生命读经的内容。所以
不妨按照下面的格式来查,不知道大家以为如何?
主题:神的福音─将罪人作成神的儿子,构成基督的身体,显为在地方上的召会
壹 引言─神的福音 一1~17
一 在经上所应许的 1~2
1:1 1基督2耶稣的3奴仆4保罗,5蒙召的6使徒,被7分别出来8归于神9福音的;
1:2 1这福音是神2从前借着祂的众申言者,在3圣经上所应许的,
二 论到基督 3~4
1:3 论到1祂的儿子,我们的主耶稣基督:按2肉体说,是3从4大卫后裔5生的,
1:4 按1圣别的2灵说,是3从死人的复活,4以5大能6标出为神的7儿子;
注释选摘:
1.1:基督,等于希伯来文的弥赛亚,意受膏者。(... 阅读全帖
p***y
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - The Tibetan book of Living and Dying
你还是少讲话哦
一开嘴就露马脚哦
弱哦
你太弱拉
博士哦
据说据说据说
还是美国海外长大的哦
purty你都不知道耶
你好奇怪耶
还有你算虾米呀
还变形虫
咔咔咔
自吹自赞太恶啦
呸呸
你实在太丢脸拉
酱, 好心扫盲第一课,啦啦啦
purty (pûrt)
adj. Regional
Variant of pretty.
Regional Note: Purty is probably the most common American example of
metathesis, a linguistic process in which two adjacent sounds are reversed
in order. Metathesis in English often involves the consonant r and a vowel,
since the phonetic properties of r are so vowellike. For example, the word
third used to be thrid, and bird, bri
w*********l
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承蒙看得起啊,我觉得我还没到能给别人offer advice的地步。不过我觉得琢磨人家是
怎么说的,为
什么我跟人家说的有差别很重要。lowai就是这个路数,他对phonetics挺有研究的。我
也比较感兴
趣,不过没有他那么牛就是了。
l***i
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我大学以后才开始看phonetics
之前其实已经一直那么说话了
以前跟1967年的new concept english磁带读的
那个版本的磁带的朗读水平极高 比1997年版的好多了
(不过现在的英国标准口音已经不是那样的了
现在流行的标准口音是在1960年代被middle
class严重影响过的, 所以有一种特别的调调...
所以有一种说法是RP已死)
发音这个事情 模仿还是比较重要的吧
但是作为non-native speaker, 看书是有意义的
因为你毕竟如果不在那个环境下或者是很迟才学习的话
有理论指导更容易学
就像很多人批评国内英语教学太侧重语法一样
事实上 不教语法的话 学生写的东西都是错的有什么意思...
因为不在那个语言环境下
错误没有办法被自动纠正
所以还是要老老实实地学语法
J******s
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来自主题: HuNan版 - Suffering (转载)
给个wiki的定义哈:P
Dukkha (Pāli; Sanskrit: duḥkha; Tibetan phonetic: dukngal) is a
Buddhist term commonly translated as "suffering", "stress", "anxiety", or "
dissatisfaction". Dukkha is identified as the first of the Four Noble Truths.
Within the Buddhist tradition, dukkha is commonly explained according to
three different patterns or categories. In the first category, dukkha
includes the obvious physical suffering or pain associated with giving birth
, growing old, physical illness and the pro... 阅读全帖
N**********d
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来自主题: Shaanxi版 - 说说陕西话
http://dict.baidu.com/s?wd=%8B%9B&tn=dict
baidu only has one phonetic word
actually google pinyin has bao pronouciation
S**I
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from wiki:
The Macintosh project started in the late 1970s with Jef Raskin, an Apple
employee, who envisioned an easy-to-use, low-cost computer for the average
consumer. He wanted to name the computer after his favorite type of apple,
the McIntosh, but the name had to be changed for legal reasons as it was too
close, phonetically, to that of the McIntosh audio equipment manufacturer.
m***a
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w*r
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来自主题: Database版 - m(- -)m 求解算法
我写过类似的东西,用java store proc in oracle实现了string distance/soundex(
phonetic
index)/synonyms的比对,然后分别取一个best fitting linear regression就解决了
T*******n
发帖数: 493
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Believe it or not, many journals do use (La)TeX to do layout.
Not all, but many. Even some linguistics journals, where they
don't have math, but use all those complicated phonetic symbols.
m********e
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right now..
I am interested in speech prosody,speech perception,acoustic phonetics
lexical tone system....stuff like that...

was
approach.
d*****u
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I like phonology and phonetics too. But people keep telling me that I'd better
study computational ling. or cognitive ling....
Anyway, I plan on getting a master's degree in linguistics first, focusing on
either phonolgy or syntax.

et
reflexives.
1993)
versus
d*****u
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I'm taking a course in neuroling this semester. Actually it sort of bored me.
There's not much theoretic work, in stead, you need to know how to design
experiments and do statistic things.

stuff
I'd
phonetics
the
Battistella(1989),
INFL
d*****u
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - English stress pattern and Mandarin

跟声调相关的所谓mora其实跟一般意义的mora有点区别
与声调相关的mora就是一个tone bearing unit
前提是把声调分化成若干feature,例如L,M,H之类的
phonology应该是跟人的认知挂钩的
人总是会利用一些信息,忽略另一些信息
这两者就算没有绝对的界限,至少也是有很大的区别
一个重要的问题就是phonetics和phonology到底是怎么样的关系
现在好像还没有很好的理论把两者统一起来,有点越走越远的意思了
前两天看端木的paper,他就说普通话的音节通常是bimoraic的,而上海话通常是monomor

g*w
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我是second language acquisiton from phonological and phonetics perspectives
m********e
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acoustic phonetics
language testing (this is my RA work, mainly focused on test of spoken English
d*****u
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - 网上哪里有《实验语音学概要》?
请有研究的朋友也推荐基本acoustic phonetics的书
最好是跟tone有点关系的,谢谢
m********e
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - 网上哪里有《实验语音学概要》?
另外
keneth stevens得acoustic phonetics也是很经典的入门书
d*****u
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - 简单介绍一下美国的语言学专业吧
经常有朋友发帖或者发信问相关情况,这里一并介绍一下。
语言学linguistics并不是研究具体某一种语言的学科,而是the scientific study
of human languages. 语言学系里讲授的课程都不是针对某种语言的,而是所谓
普遍规律和一般方法。当然,很多研究都是针对具体语言的,学生的论文更是如此。
这是用一般方法来分析具体的对象,是一种演绎;这种演绎也可以带来方法本身的
完善和修订。
语言学的基础理论包括音系学(phonology),语音学(phonetics),句法学(syntax)

语义学(semantics)以及语用学(pragmatics)等等。一般的语言学系还会有以下交叉
学科:社会语言学、历史语言学、计算语言学、认知语言学。一般来说,类似语言教学、
外国语言这样的专业都不在语言学系。
总体来说,各大院校的语言学系都不要求研究生具有直接背景,所以不管你本科学什么
的,都可以申请。作为PhD来说,通常需要花两年半左右的时间完成基础课。基础课包括
所有基础理论,还应该包括根据自身爱好选修的专业基础课。
语言学是一门高度抽象的学科,特别是语义学、句法
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关于语音学和音系学,我觉得以往的确是把音系学搞得太死
比如那些distinctive feature,无疑是有用的,但是并不意味着语法就只
对那些feature起作用。我们唱歌的时候知道什么时候稍微高一点,什么时候
稍微低一点;一些小的语音特征(尽管没有用feature表征),也是可以被语法控制的。
不过Steriade近期发了一些文章注意到类似问题。比如提出contrast和feature的区别,
node和class的区别,等等。

phonetics.
syntax

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经常有朋友发帖或者发信问相关情况,这里一并介绍一下。
语言学linguistics并不是研究具体某一种语言的学科,而是the scientific study
of human languages. 语言学系里讲授的课程都不是针对某种语言的,而是所谓
普遍规律和一般方法。当然,很多研究都是针对具体语言的,学生的论文更是如此。
这是用一般方法来分析具体的对象,是一种演绎;这种演绎也可以带来方法本身的
完善和修订。
语言学的基础理论包括音系学(phonology),语音学(phonetics),句法学(syntax)

语义学(semantics)以及语用学(pragmatics)等等。一般的语言学系还会有以下交叉
学科:社会语言学、历史语言学、计算语言学、认知语言学。一般来说,类似语言教学、
外国语言这样的专业都不在语言学系。
总体来说,各大院校的语言学系都不要求研究生具有直接背景,所以不管你本科学什么
的,都可以申请。作为PhD来说,通常需要花两年半左右的时间完成基础课。基础课包括
所有基础理论,还应该包括根据自身爱好选修的专业基础课。
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关于语音学和音系学,我觉得以往的确是把音系学搞得太死
比如那些distinctive feature,无疑是有用的,但是并不意味着语法就只
对那些feature起作用。我们唱歌的时候知道什么时候稍微高一点,什么时候
稍微低一点;一些小的语音特征(尽管没有用feature表征),也是可以被语法控制的。
不过Steriade近期发了一些文章注意到类似问题。比如提出contrast和feature的区别,
node和class的区别,等等。

phonetics.
syntax

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你说的dispersioin theory的文章我也看过
现在越来越多的人重视phonetics和phonology的关系
从articulation和perception里去找phonological pattern形成的原因
Striade有篇关于paradigm uniformity的文章我觉得很有启发
她论述了phonology也会直接参考一些non-contrastive的语音特征
所以应该模糊语音学和音系学的界限
不过总的来说现在的OT就是个大杂烩
许多现时的、历史的、发音的、听觉的因素全部综合到一个tableau里面
就像Blevins说的Markedness不过是个统计学的结果
把它看成synchronic grammar的一部分有很大问题
石毓智的那篇文章我粗略浏览过,感觉不是很有说服力
他很多措辞也不太地道,比如说“追随Chomsky的大多是些狂热的博士生”
“中国不搞生成语言学是因为我们搞不懂吗?不是,我们中国人很擅长数学。。。”
不是原话,但是基本就是那样
看着感觉不着边际
我觉得Chomsky所说的人有相同的认知模式无疑是有道理的
但关键是这个模式多大程度上体
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