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发帖数: 3613 | 4 pharaoh with cleopatra addon is crazy |
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发帖数: 4253 | 5 法老王本来心态就不好(当时的埃及已经奴役以色列人将近400年了)。
每一天以色列男女老幼痛苦活在水深火热的日子中。如果法老王是善意早已把人全给放
了，何必需要上帝亲自出马干涉？
有些人本性就是不见棺材不流泪就耗你时间慢慢和你对着干 （对法老王来说反正死了
再多奴仆也无所谓）。
那为何耶和华使法老的心刚硬？
总结是：法老心刚硬了事情的进度也快了，好让以色列人早日摆脱这百年的枷锁！
Question: "Why did God harden Pharaoh’s heart?"
Answer: Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I
multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt he will not listen to you
. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will
bring out my people the Israelites... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4253 | 6 总结是：法老王本来就不是善类(当时的埃及已经奴役以色列人将近400年了)。
以色列男女老幼痛苦活在水深火热的日子中。如果法老王是善意早已把人给全放了，上
帝何必亲自出马？有些人本性就是不见棺材不流泪就耗你时间和你对着干
（反正死了再多点奴仆也无所谓）。
上帝使法老心刚硬就是希望加快事情的进展，好让以色列人早日解脱这枷锁！
Question: "Why did God harden Pharaoh’s heart?"
Answer: Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I
multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt he will not listen to you
. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will
bring out my people the Israelites.” It seems unjust for God to... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 7 这是中译本的一个意译，目的是为了让读者更容易理解圣经。而英文版本没有这样翻译。
但是这个问题是很普遍的问题，google一下就可以看到解释。我这里把NET bible的解
释粘贴过来，希望您能了解的更深入。
God gave Moses a preview of all that would take place in his dealings with
Pharaoh (vv. 21-23). When God said He would harden Pharaoh’s heart (v. 21),
He was not saying that Pharaoh would be unable to choose whether he would
release the Israelites. God made Pharaoh’s heart progressively harder as
the king chose to disobey God’s will (cf. Lev. 26:23-24).
“The hardening of Pharaoh is ascribed to... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 8 大师，你到底想表达啥啊，lol
New International Version
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in Egypt,
New Living Translation
But I will make Pharaoh's heart stubborn so I can multiply my miraculous
signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.
English Standard Version
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in the land of Egypt,
New American Standard Bible
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My
wonders in... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 9 我在给大师上英文课呗
New International Version
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in Egypt,
New Living Translation
But I will make Pharaoh's heart stubborn so I can multiply my miraculous
signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.
English Standard Version
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in the land of Egypt,
New American Standard Bible
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My
wonders in the ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 10 大师，你到底想表达啥啊，lol
New International Version
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in Egypt,
New Living Translation
But I will make Pharaoh's heart stubborn so I can multiply my miraculous
signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.
English Standard Version
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in the land of Egypt,
New American Standard Bible
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My
wonders in... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 11 我在给大师上英文课呗
New International Version
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in Egypt,
New Living Translation
But I will make Pharaoh's heart stubborn so I can multiply my miraculous
signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.
English Standard Version
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in the land of Egypt,
New American Standard Bible
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My
wonders in the ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 12 其实吧， 这里是英文版
New International Version
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in Egypt,
New Living Translation
But I will make Pharaoh's heart stubborn so I can multiply my miraculous
signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.
English Standard Version
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and
wonders in the land of Egypt,
New American Standard Bible
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My
wonders in the... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5785 | 13 思考与讨论：神为何要让法老心硬？
1.Exodus 7:13
Yet Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the
LORD had said.
2.Exodus 7:22
But the magicians of Egypt did the same with their secret arts; and Pharaoh
’s heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said.
3.Exodus 8:15
But when Pharaoh saw that there was relief, he hardened his heart and did
not listen to them, as the LORD had said.
4.Exodus 8:19
Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, “ This is the finger of God.” But
Ph... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 14
在摩西去见长老之前：
4: 21 And the LORD said to Moses, "When you go back to Egypt, see that you
do all those wonders before Pharaoh which I have put in your hand. But I
will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.
摩西再次见长老之前
7：3-5 "And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply My signs and My
wonders in the land of Egypt. But Pharaoh will not heed you, so that I may
lay My hand on Egypt and bring My armies and My people, the children of
Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgm... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 15 Exodus
4:21 The Lord said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform
before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But 【I
will harden】 his heart so that he will not let the people go.
7:3 But 【I will harden】 Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my
miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt,
9:12 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to
Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.
10:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, fo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 16 Exodus
4:21 The Lord said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform
before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But 【I
will harden】 his heart so that he will not let the people go.
7:3 But 【I will harden】 Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my
miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt,
9:12 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to
Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.
10:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, fo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1904 | 17 摘自《以色列百科全书》
PHARAOH AND THE EGYPTIANS IN THE AGGADAH
Influence of Jew’s Experience in Roman Egypt.
Figure1. Pharaoh bathing in the blood of Hebrew children in order to cure
his leprosy (Ex.R 1:34). Woodcut from the Prague Haggadah,1526. Jerusalem, J
.N.U.L.
Leper Motif. Leprosy figures repeatedly in the punishments inflicted or
threatened on the Egyptians. The Pharaoh of the oppression became a leper
and sought to cure himself by bathing in the blood of Hebrew children
specially slain for th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1904 | 18 PHARAOH AND THE EGYPTIANS IN THE AGGADAH （摘自以色利百科全书）
Influence of Jew’s Experience in Roman Egypt.
Figure1. Pharaoh bathing in the blood of Hebrew children in order to cure
his leprosy
(Ex.R 1:34). Woodcut from the Prague Haggadah,1526. Jerusalem, J.N.U.L.
Leper Motif. Leprosy figures repeatedly in the punishments inflicted or
threatened on the Egyptians. The Pharaoh of the oppression became a leper
and sought to cure himself by bathing in the blood of Hebrew children
specially slain for this pu... 阅读全帖 |
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m****r
发帖数: 1904 | 19 出埃及记的”harden”一词小考
出埃及记多次提到了这个”harden”,比如出埃及记4：21；7：3；9：12；10：1，
20，27；11：10；14：4，8，17大多数的圣经版本翻译都和King James的
版本一样。如果有兴趣对比更多版本的话，可以访问这个网站http://
www.biblegateway.com ，下面仅以New King James Version为例。
Exodus4:21And the LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that
you do all those wonders before Pharaoh which I have put in your hand. But I
will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.
Exodus7:3 “And I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and multiply My signs and My
wonders in the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11198 | 20 The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11198 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****d
发帖数: 1148 | 22 按照维基上的说法，目前埃及的木乃伊貌似还没有检测出结果，无论是Y还是线粒体：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNA-tested_mummies
我去pubmed和google scholar上用Pharaoh，ancient Egyptian，mummy，Y haplogroup
mitochondria，等等排列组合搜了一下，貌似没有任何实质性的结果。
这里倒是有一篇英文论坛上的文章，两年前发表的，我依稀记得当时国内某论坛也跟风
讨论过。此文宣称图坦卡蒙等人的男性谱系是R1b，但却不是中东走廊-尼罗河下游相对
常见的R1b1a，而是当地较稀薄的R1b1b2。然而作者又说“not yet published
officially”，这就不得而知了。。。
Pharaoh Tutankhamun, Akhenaten and Amenhotep III were R1b
The Egyptians have tested autosomal and Y-DNA markers of three Pharaohs
of the 18th ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 23
10:20 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the
Israelites go
10:27 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to
let them go.
11:10 Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the 【
Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out
of his country.
14:8 The 【Lord hardened】 the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, so that he
pursued the Israelites, who were marching out boldly.
老耶干了这些，是为了让以色列人有所准备？ |
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发帖数: 18304 | 24 举例：
出埃及记
9:12 耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不听他们，正如耶和华对摩西所说的。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and
Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.
出埃及记
10:20但耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不容以色列人去。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites
go.
出埃及记
10:27 但耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不肯容他们去。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to let them go.
出埃及记
11：10 摩西，亚伦在法老面前行了这一切奇事，耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不容以色列
人出离他的地。
Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18304 | 25 举例：
出埃及记
9:12 耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不听他们，正如耶和华对摩西所说的。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and
Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.
出埃及记
10:20但耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不容以色列人去。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites
go.
出埃及记
10:27 但耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不肯容他们去。
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to let them go.
出埃及记
11：10 摩西，亚伦在法老面前行了这一切奇事，耶和华使法老的心刚硬，不容以色列
人出离他的地。
Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 26 那是你自己的理解。跟基督教无关。你在反你自己的理解。自己慢慢反吧。
ESV study bible
Ex. 4:21
The hardening of Pharaoh’s heart is referred to throughout chs. 4–14 with
the implication that Pharaoh is answerable for his own actions (e.g., 8:15)
.
However, the Lord states here that it is his sovereign hand that ultimately
governs the events.
法老自己心硬：
Exodus 8
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart and
would not listen to them, as the Lord had said.
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 27 那是你自己的理解。跟基督教无关。你在反你自己的理解。自己慢慢反吧。
ESV study bible
Ex. 4:21
The hardening of Pharaoh’s heart is referred to throughout chs. 4–14 with
the implication that Pharaoh is answerable for his own actions (e.g., 8:15)
.
However, the Lord states here that it is his sovereign hand that ultimately
governs the events.
即使按你的歪理邪说，那么法老如果自己不心硬不就没事了。
法老自己心硬：
Exodus 8
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart and
would not listen to them, as the Lord had said.
32 But Pharaoh hardened ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 28 那是你自己的理解。你在反你自己的理解。
ESV study bible
Ex. 4:21
The hardening of Pharaoh’s heart is referred to throughout chs. 4–14 with
the implication that Pharaoh is answerable for his own actions (e.g., 8:15)
.
However, the Lord states here that it is his sovereign hand that ultimately
governs the events.
法老自己心硬：
Exodus 8
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart and
would not listen to them, as the Lord had said.
出埃及 8:15
15 法老看见灾难已经过去，便又硬着心，不肯听从摩西和亚伦的话，正如耶和华所言。
32 But Pharaoh h... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 19317 | 29
I will 【harden】
the Lord 【hardened】 Pharaoh's heart
I have 【hardened】
the Lord 【hardened】 Pharaoh's heart
the Lord 【hardened】 Pharaoh's heart
The Lord 【hardened】 the heart of Pharaoh
For it was the Lord himself who 【hardened】 their hearts
如果这些主动形态的都能被解释为“被任凭”，
那我看圣灵的翻译水平也实在是蹩脚。 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 30 （1）从你的预定论上来讲，神自己给自己安排的，何谈“容忍”？
（2）从正常的人的语言习惯上来讲，神自己刚硬埃及长老的心，何谈“容忍”？
Exodus
9:12 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to
Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.
10:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for 【I have hardened】his
heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these
miraculous signs of mine among them
10:20 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the
Israelites go
10:27 But the 【Lord hardened】 Pharaoh |
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发帖数: 1776 | 31 CHAPTER V
Of Providence
I. God the great Creator of all things doth uphold,[97] direct, dispose, and
govern all creatures, actions, and things,[98] from the greatest even to th
e least,[99] by his most wise and holy providence,[100] according to his inf
allible foreknowledge,[101] and the free and immutable counsel of his own wi
ll,[102] to the praise of the glory of his wisdom, power, justice, goodness,
and mercy.[103]
II. Although, in relation to the foreknowledge and decree of God, the first
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发帖数: 38403 | 32 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 新名基名言 发信人: JasonYang (Jason), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 神‘杀’埃及长子是否道德
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 4 03:52:19 2014, 美东)
法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Ex... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 33 I believe God choose righteous people who have free will and choose to do
good. (They can do evil but they choose not to.)
God punishes all evil people and all evil people will perish.
Christians believe what Bible says. It's almost a definition. Bible is our
evidence. Everything we discuss is in Bible. If you don't believe in Bible,
nor do you want to assume Bible is true during our discussion, the
discussion is not meaningful. One cannot deny part of the bible and try to
make sense the rest of... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 34 It's like you don't read a sentence of a book and draw a conclusion the book
is good or bad.
Especially, Bible is a unity. If you don't believe or assume Bible's
statement is true, how can you understand God asked people to do things?
You are still using your own definition of God to understand Bible.
But your own definition of God is not the God in Bible.
God hardened Pharaoh's heart means that God did not let Pharaoh to know Him.
So Pharaoh didn't believe God and did evil. So God punished Phar... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 35 法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Exodus 7:13
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
13 Still Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he would not listen t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 36 你把同一句经文不同版本列出来有啥用啊。
法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Exodus 7:13
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
13 Still Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and h... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 37 法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Exodus 7:13
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
13 Still Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he would not listen t... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 38 你把同一句经文不同版本列出来有啥用啊。
法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Exodus 7:13
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
13 Still Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and h... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 39 法老自由意志不放人，神是一切事物的最终原因，他使一切事物发生，虽然是间接的，
也就是说神是最终原因，但是神给人自由意志，让人自由选择，人要为自己的选择负责。
Exodus 8:15
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and
would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:32
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and would not let the
people go.
Exodus 7:13
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
13 Still Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he would not listen t... 阅读全帖 |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 40 PIEGA C３ LTD的优点在于其高中音铝带单元的超高素质。高音非常清澈，而且奇妙的
是绝对不刺耳。是非常纯净又耐听的高音。这个铝带单元的技术可以说在世界上也是很
独特的。前无古人是肯定的，后有没有来者也难说。
T&F pharaohs的特点是大气。号角高音的效率很高，喇叭的DYNAMIC非常好。特别是听
一些大型作品的时候。低频的表现可以达到PMC的程度，但是比PMC更有层次。相比之下
PMC有点像K歌或是PA喇叭，细腻度要差pharaohs几条街。
T&F pharaohs的高音是绝对不如PIEGA的。无须AB比较。一听就知道了。这是一个妥协。
相比PIEGA，T＆F的高音有点闷，分解力弱了很多。这个妥协是有道理的。没有PIEGA的
铝带高音技术，如果再把分解力提高，估计音色会很刺耳。T＆F就只好妥协。
不过这也是相比PIEGA而言。比起PMC，HARBETH等我以前用过的喇叭，T＆F的高音还是
超过这些喇叭许多。
T＆F最大的优点就是有音乐味。乐器音色的整体还原，特别是低频部分要朝过PIEGA很
多。听小型乐队的演奏已经能够基本还原现场的感觉。当然如果大型交响乐或是协奏曲
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 41 看了英文也觉得笑点很飘渺
(Reuters) - The world's oldest recorded joke has been traced back to 1900 BC
and suggests that toilet humour was as popular with the ancients as it is
today.
It is a saying of the Sumerians, who lived in what is now southern Iraq and
goes: "Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young
woman did not fart in her husband's lap."
It heads the world's oldest top 10 joke list published by the University of
Wolverhampton on Thursday.
A 1600 BC gag about a pharaoh, said... 阅读全帖 |
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 42 10大
No1
Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did
not fart in her husband's lap."
Joke No. 2, 1600 B.C.
The world's second oldest joke, found on the Westcar Papyrus, is a gag about
a pharaoh, widely thought to be King Snofru: "How do you entertain a bored
pharaoh? You sail a boatload of young women dressed only in fishing nets
down the Nile and urge the pharaoh to go catch a fish."
Joke No. 3, 1200 B.C.
"Three ox drivers from Adab were thirsty: one owned the ox,... 阅读全帖 |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 43 黑社会老大没那么分裂。阅读理解：下面这段话里面，是谁"harden Pharaoh's heart"
? 目的是什么？
Exodus 14:4
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain
glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will
know that I am the LORD." So the Israelites did this. |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 44 【harden】
Exodus
4:21 The Lord said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform
before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will
【harden】 his heart so that he will not let the people go.
7:3 But I will 【harden】 Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my
miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt,
9:12 But the Lord 【hardened】 Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to
Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.
10:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Go to Ph |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 45 （1）
詞共有三個，基本意思卻沒有分別。聖經有時說神使法老的心剛硬，本節就是例子。有
時說法老自己硬著心，如八章15節。有時則中立地形容法老的心是剛硬的，如七章13節。
》》Exodus 4:21 But 【I will harden his heart】, so that he will not let the
people go.
Exodus 8:15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was relief, 【he hardened his
heart】 and did not heed them, as the LORD had said.
Exodus 7:13 And 【Pharaoh's heart grew hard】, and he did not heed them, as
the LORD had said.
“I (God) will harden his heart”和“he (Pharaoh) hardened his heart”如果从
结果上看，是一个意思，但可以互换？“人杀鸡取蛋”和“鸡杀自己取蛋”是一个意思
吗？“上帝 |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 46 没错，长老确实没悔改，但咱们来看看为啥没悔改（这几段经文我都贴了很多遍了，唉
）：
在摩西见长老之前，上帝就已经预定了：
4:21 The Lord said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform
before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But 【I
will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go】.
7:3 But 【I will harden】 Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my
miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt
然后是灾难接着灾难，可上帝怎么做的：
9:12 But the【 Lord hardened】 Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to
Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 47 You have my admiration.
I do not know how you convinced yourself to believe what you believe.
Look, I have a son who is almost 5 year and half, but he only knows about
1500 English words. If I teach him that "Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart"
actually means "Lord allowed Pharaoh's heart to be hardened, Pharaoh
hardened his heart by himself, it has nothing to do with Lord", I am sure
next year he will be placed in Special Class for Students with Special Needs. |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 48 Acts 7：1-53 Stephen's Speech to the Sanhedrin
1Then the high priest asked him, "Are these charges true?"
2To this he replied: "Brothers and fathers, listen to me! The God of glory
appeared to our father Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he
lived in Haran. 3'Leave your country and your people,' God said, 'and go to
the land I will show you.'[a]
4"So he left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Haran. After the
death of his father, God sent him to this land where you are now li... 阅读全帖 |
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m****s
发帖数: 18160 | 49 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1：1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 50 你再看看你的这些段落和我贴的那些是如何的因果关系。
仅举一例：
在摩西去见长老之前：
4: 21 And the LORD said to Moses, "When you go back to Egypt, see that you
do all those wonders before Pharaoh which I have put in your hand. But I
will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.
摩西再次见长老之前
7：3-5 "And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply My signs and My
wonders in the land of Egypt. But Pharaoh will not heed you, so that I may
lay My hand on Egypt and bring My armies and My people, the children of
Israel, out of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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