s*********k
发帖数: 4144 | 1 对于发球抢攻的直拍,如果你发过去,对面的横拍拧你的两个大角(甚至加上两个小角),
很难预判球的落点,抢攻也就没有了.再加上横拍也可以摆短,自从横拍能拧之后,直拍和横拍比还是被动(指水平相近的条件下). |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 4 支持这个观点.
对付shakehand的最好方法就是也换成shakehand.象我这种,呵呵. |
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l******l
发帖数: 2679 | 8 As someone who is primarily a pen-holder but played one year and half
as shakehand reaching 1850 level, I can say, at armature level, what
matters is technique, not grip style.
However, at pro-level, I can surely say, the development of modern day
table tennis has rendered pen-holder style a lot inferior to shakehand.
Just look at the percentage of top-level pen-holder players in the
world. Particularly, look at these countries that are traditionally pen-
holder strong holder, Japan, Korea, and ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4429 | 9 横拍其实是个shortcut。对我来说，横拍的防守好是天然的。
特别是防弧圈球，很多时候，水平比我低的横拍能防住的，
我防不住。一个是训练不到位，另一个直拍不好控制，
需要比横拍多的多的时间来练习。而且有人说过，自从有了
台内拧，横拍小球的劣势也没了，加上发球横拍也追上来了。
似乎已经shakehand dominate了。这个不一定，其实直拍
有了横打以后，弱点也补好了。加上从前的前三板 和台内小球
的处理，（横拍在怎么样，正手台内小球部分还是不如直拍）
特别是要步伐，直拍不用正手攻的话肯定不行，加上直拍的人
脑子一定要活，变化多。打到top水平了，直拍横拍没区别了。
就和１８００，１９００的直拍横拍你能说谁更厉害？
区别在于，小孩子拿横拍可能练个半年就到了１８００，
直拍的要练１年甚至２年。 |
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发帖数: 1753 | 10 直拍适合打近台.亚洲出直拍,是不是因为小时候打球的地方可能比较小.长大了,即使成
为专业的,握法已经固定了.金景娥,朴美英,朱世赫是不是都是家境"比较殷实"有地方退
台? 直拍的最大遗憾是没有削球手.
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一面长胶,一面反胶,UOFU用直拍还能倒板乐.
欧请教他对"冲击2000分"的高见,U兄说"光靠刻苦,不来点特殊的东西,很难." |
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j*g
发帖数: 820 | 12 纠结于直横可能会走很多弯路啊。
直改横不比练横打容易。
没横打也没什么，至少打到2600－2700没什么问题。参见老干妈高军。
当初我练横打，是觉得自己正手不错，老被人搓死在反手不甘心。后来才发现主要问题
还是在步法，身法和正手上。当初要是有高手指点，我可能连横打都不练了，先把更基
本的击球姿势问题纠正了再说。
当然横打还是很好玩的。学点新东西还是很快乐的。 |
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发帖数: 2457 | 14 你是看错型号了吧？ 纳米OC英文全称是‘Offensive NCT"，paddlepalace现在就有啊
http://www.paddlepalace.com/Offensive-NCT-Penhold/productinfo/P
另外，我打日直单桧就仅是2010那一年，那之前以及2011至今都是中直双反，中近台弧
快打法。
非Stiga的，Nittaku Ludeack Fleet（玻璃鸟）不错，但这个的直板只有国内才有。
Nittaku Bizelox-CS也不错。还有Yasaka Galaxya-CS以及Ma Lin Soft Carbon, 弧圈
和旋转都挺不错的。不过需要提醒你的是，有得必有失，你不能指望一块板借力撞击加
强了而拉球旋转也不减弱，呵呵！ |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 15 7.6 is based on a 7-ply blade with carbon powder mixed in the ply glue.
Thinner than a typical 7-ply wood blade. it's equally adept at hitting and
looping. However, I personally feel the ball feeling at low impact is not as
clear as some other 7-ply Stiga pure wood blades including CL and Ebenholz
VII. That said, 7.6 can generate tremendous power and wicked 2nd kick in
looping. For penhold player, it blocks well against loops, at least better
than Ti5.4. This blade matches better with medium or ... 阅读全帖 |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 16 你是看错型号了吧？ 纳米OC英文全称是‘Offensive NCT"，paddlepalace现在就有啊
http://www.paddlepalace.com/Offensive-NCT-Penhold/productinfo/P
另外，我打日直单桧就仅是2010那一年，那之前以及2011至今都是中直双反，中近台弧
快打法。
非Stiga的，Nittaku Ludeack Fleet（玻璃鸟）不错，但这个的直板只有国内才有。
Nittaku Bizelox-CS也不错。还有Yasaka Galaxya-CS以及Ma Lin Soft Carbon, 弧圈
和旋转都挺不错的。不过需要提醒你的是，有得必有失，你不能指望一块板借力撞击加
强了而拉球旋转也不减弱，呵呵！ |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 17 7.6 is based on a 7-ply blade with carbon powder mixed in the ply glue.
Thinner than a typical 7-ply wood blade. it's equally adept at hitting and
looping. However, I personally feel the ball feeling at low impact is not as
clear as some other 7-ply Stiga pure wood blades including CL and Ebenholz
VII. That said, 7.6 can generate tremendous power and wicked 2nd kick in
looping. For penhold player, it blocks well against loops, at least better
than Ti5.4. This blade matches better with medium or ... 阅读全帖 |
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T**1
发帖数: 30 | 18 Hi 老pen and 众高手,
Can you give some comments on Nittaku Violin and Acoustic C-Penhold? Also
what rubbers are good on them?
Thanks! |
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T**1
发帖数: 30 | 19 Hi 老pen and 众高手,
Can you give some comments on Nittaku Violin and Acoustic C-Penhold? Also
what rubbers are good on them?
Thanks! |
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V*******g
发帖数: 678 | 20 你买了以后，megasping 的 YEO看来断货了。看来这块板子很hot。刚问了一个做乒球
生意的人，说现在Yasaka Chinese Penhold厂方是供不应求。 |
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k******r
发帖数: 2243 | 22 Please help me to get one 纳米OC Penhold if you want to order something from
PP. |
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发帖数: 1565 | 28 LoopKill not only plays great Pingpong as penholder, but is great for
coaching. He can understand each player's drawbacks better.
Thanks for coaching me when I played in the morning round, especially,
coaching me to beat the big guy (bigger than me).
Send 3 baozi. Thanks |
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发帖数: 1565 | 29 Who is rocnex ? Is the guy of bio-informatic person ?
Is rocnex shakehand or penholder ?
Maybe I need to go MD to play with rocnex to find out. |
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H******n
发帖数: 4072 | 30 yes, bio-informatics. He is a penholder with consistent loops. |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 31 rocnex : are you a penholder ? I try to figure out, |
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发帖数: 1565 | 32 I have a feeling that both people who changed to shakehand and those who
stick on penholder may be kind of losers, including myself. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 33
good article, but i do feel tennis forehand is more like 勾拳, whereas TT
forehand
isn't much like that, esp for penholders, we need to use wrists/fingers a
lot
more than in tennis.
The more lethal forehand loop would be those with side spins, watch out
Waldner's
loop, since the ball is light and small, it is a lot easier to use wrist and
fingers.
TT is fun to play than tennis in a way that spins are a lot more varied.
If you like to play 勾拳 as much as possible, i would guess tennis is a
better
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 34 It's never too late to switch from penhold to shakehand style.
LOL. |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 35 Good game.
It looks like a penholder game: short balls at begining. |
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o********s
发帖数: 971 | 36 老父退休也有一段日子了，在我的强烈鼓励下又捡起了年轻时候的爱好：乒乓球。别说
，水平恢复／提高非常快。很快我已经打不过他了。
这次回去准备给他升级球拍。求推荐！
老父的打法是传统的直板快攻。他试打过国内挺拔的三碳皇，他感觉质感手感都很不错。
也就是这边的tibhar triple carbon blade（penhold）。但是我实在找不到。是不是
已经不流行了？
所以希望各位高手提建议。
在哪里买？有什么类似的？
先谢了 |
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l*********l
发帖数: 49 | 37 女生，很业余，基本直板快打，不太会拉弧圈。
实在受不了体育馆的拍子了，就自己随便配了块：
底板选了yasaka extra special chinese penhold
胶皮正手yasaka mark v，反手dhs hurricane 3 neo, 这个配置怎么样？ |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 38 when Lily was behind 4:6 in 7th game against Chris, did she ever think that
moment
could be her only chance to become an Olympian by winning that game?
since in 2016, Liu Juan/Lu Ying/Jiaqi most likely would all qualify for USA
women's
team.
3 penholders! |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 41 Wu Xue, currently ranked #62 in the world, uses Violin penhold blade. She
had a good show in 2008 Olympics, beating Gao Jun after a tough battle. |
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A*****1
发帖数: 1029 | 42 stiga的Titanium 5.4 WRB怎么样？重量？适合攻球还是弧圈？有利于制造旋转还是就
是快？
配什么胶皮有讲究么？ |
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发帖数: 36508 | 45 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
chen91 (win) 于 (Fri Jul 23 17:33:08 2010, 美东) 提到:
as long as i see one, i always try to play to their smooth side, did not
work well,
it seems their backhands are better, they use the medium pips even when the
ball is
in the middle to forehand side.
any strategy or tips to against them?
at Baltimore, against one, i won the first game like 11:6, i thought i would
pull
a upset against a guy over 2100 from east coast, but he came back to beat me
3:1
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SmartFarter (想放就放我最响亮) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:13:37 2010, 美东) 提到:
事先声明，实在是惨不忍睹，打算骂人的就免进了。纯娱乐。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKGhVN5flw
版主，快给包子。
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usatt (usatt) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:31:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
8错8错...可惜我没包子
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junkywind (飘扬的垃圾) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:41:10 2010, 美东) 提到:
google?
这桌，这地，也忒寒碜了吧。。。。。。比人marvell差多了。
你们得好好跟board反应反应。
这俩都在club没见过
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 47 congrat.s for the great performance, is Terry Tam using penhold or
shakehand these days? |
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k******r
发帖数: 2243 | 48 今天试了试Timo Boll ALC，感觉非常给力。U大能搞到直板的Butterfly Timo Boll
ALC - Chinese Penhold吗？多少钱？想进一块。 |
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v***v
发帖数: 5504 | 49 这些名字都太小资了，呆会儿钻风（对，说得就是你！）会跑出来说鸟鸟去宠物版。。
。俺目前不想增加别的变量，就想上个横拍试试。所以YEO penhold转YEO shakehand貌
似最简单直接。 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 50
the top 4 female players in USA are all penholders with great backhand:
Liu Juan, Gao Jun, Wang Huijing and Zheng Jiaqi |
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