W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 1 that's just variance. the last two time I had all in 3 way preflop with KK
in NL25.. once vs AK QQ the other time is QQ JJ... My KK is cracked the
second time by 4 cards flush by QQ. The first one is even funnier, EP raise 3.5X, MP raise all in 40X bb AK, i reshove all in 80X bb, and BB call all in 80X bb with QQ.
Poker is a range game, if you think others only shove preflop all in with AA
then sure fold. but the fact is far away from it. all in pre with KK is +EV
in long run because you ge |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 结果126.27bb/100hand.
要不是我只抓了一把AA还被人call了all in preflop. it 还要高... |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 3 ahah, persistency is key |
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c***h
发帖数: 80 | 4 NL25 自己先call 3x w/ 67s, flop straight. 敌人QQ all-in after flop， i
called
没过多久，自己拿到QQ，然后3x pre, one caller，then BB bet 12bb, i called. He
checked on flop (678), i bet, he called. Then he bet on turn, i shove, he
called showing 45s....
不得不感叹FTP的公正廉明 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 it will make a difference between you and the average NL25 player if you don
't go broke on pocket Qs on the second hand.
when you have a over pair and flop comes 567, i would consider it either hit the other player very heavy or nothing at all. if he calls after flop, be very wary. |
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c***h
发帖数: 80 | 6 me and vallian both have a little bit more than buy-in (120bb)
NL25 6-max. I opened 3x from CO w/ A5s, BB raised to 6x, I called. flop a
nut flush draw, BB bet, I raise, he re-raise, I all-in. Didn't hit flush...
any suggestion on how to play nut flush draw in position w/ big stack? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 with >35k hands played on both NL25 and NL10, I can say confidently that this statement is false or at least very misleading. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 for the first hand, they can re-bluff maybe on a higher stake. But at NL25
level, i am not sure whether this would produce a +EV outcome. I can lay it
down of course, but most people can not. I don't think i represent a 2 here
but at least I represent that I am not worried about the 9. If i were to
steal out of position, i would just pop pot after flop and see the reaction.
At NL 25, most people still only look at the 2 hole cards in their hand.
Example,
EP limp, I am at bb with some crap i don |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 Fryking is great, but let us not get carried away. This 60bb buy-in magic
number that we talked about so many times is not the reason why fryking beat
NL25 with ease. He beat the game because he use his notes exceptionally
well, better than any one of us. He read the hand well with his vast
experience, not because of 60bb buy in.
I think i have said this before, 60bb is the most awkward starting stack.
you give set farmer just more than enough odds to farm you and the
simplified play make it a |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 10 Thanks for the advice, but I doubt I will play NL25 because I am sure I will
be a loser playing there. Here is why:
1. The stake is too small and I will become too careless with my money. I
will be the one fooling around there. Try some crazy bluff and lose $25 - $
30 in one hand is one thing, the dangrous part is you barely feel the pain,
but you do that 4 -5 time, the money add up and you burn your roll slowly
and when you finally realize it, it is already a lot.
2. Not sure I have the courage |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 11 站在fryking背后看他打牌
btw: cash game is an art. nl25已经很难了 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 So we can all be rich.
after he half pot flop and 2/3 pot turn and raise all in so hard vs my
miniraise.. i almost folded my set thinking for sure that he has got 10s..
lol... crying call for the win ( i had to time bank this for the call).. he sure played his pocket Qs like the nuts
after flop.. |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 13 Why Crying？
if he has nut,and make stupid all in, pay him,(although you still win at
last)
if he got TT, well, lay down bottom set but never middle one at small stake.
he sure played his pocket Qs like the nuts |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 I was calling this without a doubt. But isn't it much much more comforting
if he call my raise and check call my pot river all in? ^_^
stake. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 I will attempt it when i made 2k on NL 25. It might not be long. I know i
can beat NL25. The biggest enemy is still myself. For example, How I can
stop spewing the pot when i got 3 betted 4 5 times in a row when I open
raise preflop. It is affecting my win rate huge. I even made some stupid
donk move recently that I used to do when I was struggling with NL10.
Playing with my ass not my brain sometimes is not helping me to make a
profit.. lol.. 0$ made in 3 weeks is unacceptable even if I run |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 16 剩下都是鱼好打多了.. 两天轻松赢回5 buy-in..
操.. 咋不早点走呢... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 19 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - nl2求教 0.02的blind？感觉那个太小，不能按常理来。不如升到NL25再说，否则时间都不值啊
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N********s
发帖数: 44 | 20 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - nl2求教 但是bankroll不允许啊，NL25 60bb buyin现在的bankroll只够不到4 buyin的...NL5是
不是比NL2正常一点？ |
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N********s
发帖数: 44 | 21 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - nl2求教 打了两天发现这个问题了...不过NL25目前从bankroll来讲对我还是太高...以我现在的
br加上耶稣那套理论我想打NL5都只能打40~50BB short stack的. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 bump and report 一下.. total bankroll 7K now. made 4 k over 3 month (may
June July) including 6月7月huge下风期(ftp simply hates me).
在first level small stake NL100 打了17k手last week, so far 算是站得还稳..希望今年升上NL200, 暂时target bankroll 是 12k升级
今年grind rush poker 的进程.
1/10/2010-3/21/2010 NL10 30.0k hand break even 0.14bb/100 5$
1/30/2010-5/17/2010 NL25 76.6k 3.44bb/100 hand 659.13$
5/18/2010 7/31/2010 NL50 109.5k hands 3.61bb/100hand 1977.15$
7/31/2010 until 8/8/2010 NL100 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 Thanks fryking!
I will need to level up by next month then. I will have 6 gold month. I can
barely make to 100ftp points nowadays playing 2 table of NL25 for an hour
everyday. Hopefully i can make more ftp points when I level up.
ll |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 24 LOL, it's not 升级 at all. Just want go there and play with fryking as I
miss him.... LOL
"我好自卑"--kao, you have much better record than I have in NL25. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 I like NL 50 so far. Finally some people who can actually lay down a hand,
which makes aggression much more important than NL 25 and NL 10. It is so
funny how many people actually fold to my 1 bb blocking bet on river... in
NL25 10 we bust donks.. NL 50 we can add nits to the busting list... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 Totally agree that we need to continue improve our game. There are plenty of
leaks here and there for me.
I spent a lot of time on SNG because I couldn't win at cash for a long time
and only SNGs gave me a consistent winning. I didn't start to get a feeling
for cash until i had 36k hand of NL 10 rush in me this year. 76k hand of
NL25 refined my game more. I probably could have spent less time on NL 25.
But even a cash master like you, lower down to NL 25 to improve, so I can't
really complain. |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 27 答案：
HERO calls [$3.95 USD]
snippin_one shows [7s, 9c ]
HERO shows [Qd, Ah ]
HERO wins $17.48 USD from main pot
当时我觉得：我没走错啊？这是NL25不是NL5啊？ |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 28 I never 3bet that much, usually between 8 and 15bb. Is raising to 30bb a
good strategy at least at NL25? |
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 29 嗯，不知道了。。。可能和个人打法有关系吧。。
我很loose，我觉得我的打法会让对手很难受，3bet light，4bet light，go to
showdown light..我也不希望大家都跟我一样。。。呵呵
反正目前这个级别你比我强多了，我nl25 4bb/100,nl50 2bb/100。。
on
miracle |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 30 问题是：每个月仍然要打5.5k ftp入账才行啊，microstake（by micro I mean NL10-
）一个月5.5k不是小数啊。NL25+，打ironman的肯定够了。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 very good result, play a style you fit well.
VPIP and PFR are very very low though, meaning you only play/raise with
almost just premium hands. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 我的建议是, 你要再多BSO一点...en... |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 33 is this 20BB/100hands?
BTW what is each line. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 34 What's your EV adjusted winning? |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 36 如果有基础的话在自控能力强能做好br management的话可以打大一些（$600的话打
NL10没问题）。我之前就犯了没有brm的错，br在nl25被削掉一半...现在从NL2开始一
点一点攒了。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 37 Fryking 大侠又回NL25了? 没有有你的NL50很寂寞.. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 38 yost 最近打得怎么样？
我怎么也弄不到 10bb/100. 不管在NL25, or NL50 |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 39 good to know. I am at NL25, moving to NL50.
for |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 40 good to know. I am at NL25, moving to NL50.
for |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 41 btw, lundon. did you go back to NL25 too? |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 42
some
I normally play NL50. When I feel I don't play my A game, I move to NL25 to
get daily points. NL 25 is a little softer.
Quads is not that rare. Fryking get them all the time. |
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s*y
发帖数: 124 | 43 I see what you are saying. A lot of players at NL25 are passive. Reading
fcf's post, the variance becomes larger as the blinds goes higher...
sorts
note which I have them as aggressive.. ouch... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 44 可能是tilt的时候打得更好? 个人觉得NL10 和NL25 没本质区别...漏洞百出也很正常.. 我们这里的人都是漏洞百出... 关键长期赢不赢钱.. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 "tilt之后上NL25却总能绿字收工", this is a very dangerous thing ro ruin your
bankroll (and confidence in poker), as mentioned in last issue of cardplayer
, one of the most common mistakes.
yeah, for a small volume of hands, we may do "better" at a higher level, and
win more "back" to cover our losses at lower levels. but, sooner or later
it will come to get us:
1) you're now playing with a even shorter bankroll;
2) you may be playing with scared/tilted money;
3) there're reasons why we can't beat a lower l |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 46 想清了400的bonus. 发现帐户里只有26刀.. 不想转钱过去就全压上打NL25.. 结果悲剧
了... 只能转500刀过去好好打NL100... nnd
大家看见windstormm 让着点.. 咱就为了清bonus.. 不要让俺再悲剧了... |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 47 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 不要忽悠哥 For known donk you have decent/strong read, call is acceptable here.
Otherwise, easy lay down. If people could not lay down this hand without
giving any strong reasons, he/she needs go back below NL25. |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 48 NL50 ppl only 3bet squeeze with AK and QQ+?
I dont think so.
we have windstorm 4-bets J9s at NL100, and I just bust a guy who 5-bets 50bb
with 46s at NL10.
haven't played NL25 and NL50 for a while. :)
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 49 lol, thanks for teaching
still, why you sure folding KK is a good move , even in NL25
applied extensively by pros playing at higher stakes, where players are
generally better in putting a range to opponents' holdings, and therefore
are capable of making huge la |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 50 等到我把坑填平+有NL25的roll了我就跳PS... |
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