d******e 发帖数: 2541 | 1 发信人: dokknife (老刀_温柔一刀客), 信区: Dok_Tennis_Salon
标 题: Federer: Bigger Is Better : DUBAI DUTY FREE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS
2014
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 1 17:52:05 2014, 美东)
DUBAI DUTY FREE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS 2014
Federer: Bigger Is Better
Dubai, U.A.E.
Federer© AFP/Getty Images
Roger Federer won his sixth Dubai title with a three-set victory over Tomas
Berdych.
Roger Federer conveyed a sense of vindication in his recent racquet change
following a 3-6, 6-4, 6-3 victory over Tomas Berdych in t... 阅读全帖 |
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d******e 发帖数: 2541 | 2 发信人: dokknife (老刀_温柔一刀客), 信区: Dok_Tennis_Salon
标 题: Federer: Bigger Is Better : DUBAI DUTY FREE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS
2014
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 1 17:52:05 2014, 美东)
DUBAI DUTY FREE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS 2014
Federer: Bigger Is Better
Dubai, U.A.E.
Federer© AFP/Getty Images
Roger Federer won his sixth Dubai title with a three-set victory over Tomas
Berdych.
Roger Federer conveyed a sense of vindication in his recent racquet change
following a 3-6, 6-4, 6-3 victory over Tomas Berdych in t... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 Murray hired Lendl, because of same style.
Federer hired Edberg, because of same style.
Joker hired Becker because of extreme opposite styles...
is
extensively. |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 7 Kei hired Michael Chang, because of same style too =)
"Federer hired Edberg, because of same style."
not 100% agree on this one
"Murray hired Lendl, because of same style."
this is arguable too. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 8 Dolgopolov hired Santoro, because of same style.
Murray vs Lendl, both worship fitness, both are baseliners, and have similar
personalities. |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 9 气场不行。 Lol Here are some tips vs big servers. Some may help you, some
may not:
发信人: blacklodoss (flyingChopStick), 信区: TennisSurvey
标 题: Player who has a big serve
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 9 02:40:26 2014, 美东)
1. take few steps back, 3, 5, more... whatever is necessary
==> see if he can serve with angle and pace
2. move around lean toward bh or fh (depending on serve's habit)
==> see if he can control his direction/angle
3. take few steps forward, stay inside the baseline, way inside!!
==> see i... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 Thanks. But why not 6: just serve like him and he will be done as well?
老美糙哥接发球都不好,只要偶有他的发球,也一样可以光光光俩ace加一unreturned
serve...
气场不行。 Lol Here are some tips vs big servers. Some may help you, some
may not:
发信人: blacklodoss (flyingChopStick), 信区: TennisSurvey
标 题: Player who has a big serve
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 9 02:40:26 2014, 美东)
1. take few steps back, 3, 5, more... whatever is necessary
==> see if he can serve with angle and pace
2. move around lean toward bh or fh (depending on serve's h... 阅读全帖 |
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b******n 发帖数: 1629 | 11 僵尸这不上不下的老换教练,看人小德和纳豆,不多找找自身原因
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.1
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.1 |
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d******i 发帖数: 4222 | 12 僵尸已经过了克服心魔的阶段,现在这个阶段更重要是避免伤病丰富打法,换教练也正
常吧。 |
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b******n 发帖数: 1629 | 13 我觉得他心魔还在,同样是复出,你看看他和纳豆的差距
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.1 |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 14 豆子没什么复出一说,打打停停是常态。09歇一歇,10年收获,12年歇一歇,13年收割
,14年歇一歇,15年再说。
穆雷东施效颦,结果杯具了。 |
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T*U 发帖数: 22634 | 18 1/64, barely won $2 lottery. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 19 Correction, 5 daughters, same mother. |
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c***t 发帖数: 1216 | 20 sounds like a family man
i cannot imagine how to raise 5 kids
1 is already difficult for me |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 22 14连胜在男子中也排不上号吧。顶级对劈的记录都比这个强。
比如Lendl对Connors 17连胜。Connors本来还13-5领先,最后变成13-22结束。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 23 从没赢过的也很多。比如Lendl 17-0, 16-0, 16-0了3个人。
现役的除了老费,也有不少。比如Ferrer目前15-0 Almagro. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 24 Villain Of All Time
Gulbis应该可以前10.
McEnroe肯定前5。
Connors肯定前5。
Lendl肯定前10。
Nastase肯定前3。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 25 Enjoy. Did I miss any?
#10
Lendl Forehand:
#9
Sampras Body-serve:
#8
Tarango Forfeit:
#7
McEnroe Golf:
#6
Gonzales Smash:
#5
Nastasse Ball-to-ball:
#4
Serena Foot-fault:
#3
Baghdatis Smash:
#2
Youzhny Head-2-head:
AND...
#1
Nalbandian Kick: |
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u*********e 发帖数: 9616 | 26 轮到?直接Lendl吧,搞8个盘子,家里开餐馆,正好用得上。 |
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k*******2 发帖数: 4163 | 27 纳豆和Joker都没有。有的:
Conners 75, 76, 78
Lendl 86, 87
Sampras 94, 97
Hewitt 02
Federer 05, 06, 07 |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 28 这个例子有些勉强, 张当时在或快要抽筋, 他没法正常发球, 只能下手发, 他能赢
其中有element of surprise 和 Lendl的ego.
5.0 本身的水平相差也很大。 低的5.0我觉得是决对没机会的。 强的5.0 比如一些
DIV2 的
1 单, 2单 就难说了。 我觉得强的5.0,特别是善长于serve and volley的机会还是有
的。 就像之前说的, 强5.0其实和5.5的stroke, 力量来说基本没什么差别了。 一些
5.5击球的力量比很多pro都要强。 再往上偏差在于心脏, fitness, 步伐, 保持
focus, 等等。
先说5.0 发球吧。 如果搞发上, pro 不能打passing drive, 即使lob都得是下旋的
floater lob, 所以pro 的选择只能是chip 角度, 并且得return way inside the
base line. 强5.0发球控制点的能力已经很不错, 很多也能crank 出120+mph或很重的
kick, 这个优势太大了。
接发, pro 下手发球, pro 没其他选择, 基本只能靠side s... 阅读全帖 |
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 29 主要你是top spin grinder, 所以你不信削球。。。
top10任何一个单靠削球在相持都可以稳赢5.0,这个其实毫无悬念。。。
至于前三板,呵呵,5.0和top pro 比,真的也是毫无悬念,不过就是固定不能上旋而
已,左右削也不是5.0可以搞定的。 攻下手发的球是个伪命题。 德培打得是lendl,不
是5.0. top10 下手发第二弧线个个都可以不超过膝盖,速度是会慢一点,但是落点和
控制照样不是5.0攻得死的。。。靠落点占点便宜有可能,但是一旦不能得分,进入相
持就要歇菜
放小球就更没戏了,top pro打5.0即使削也根本不用退守,破网毫无压力,因为可以让
球贴网而过或者过网即坠,同时照样各种刁转落点。。。
120+的发球只要不是落点刁钻,也是毫无悬念,他们天天都接着比这难接无数倍的发球
。。。就算有ACE也是小概率。 看看费费,水雷,塔松,削球接发毫无悬念。。。
你和Mike都抓住了关键,一个是攻发球,另一个是拼命。但是我觉得基本球速,移动,
判断,经验上的巨大悬殊根本不足以被这两点弥补。。。
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x*d 发帖数: 1696 | 30 老费这是要冲击年终第一,真要成了就封神了,上海赛前只差1600,nadal也不行了。
现在最老的年终第一记录是29岁的Lendl,一下子记录涨了快4岁。 |
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g***y 发帖数: 2942 | 31 他是第三个, Jimmy Connors (1,253) and Ivan Lendl (1,071). 女子不知道 |
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w**********5 发帖数: 1741 | 32 ATP World Tour Finals: 6 titles, 13 appearances
Federer has appeared in record 13 consecutive appearances (surpassing the
old record of 12 consecutive appearances held by Lendl earlier) in the 2014
edition |
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w**********5 发帖数: 1741 | 33 10+8?
Federer reached an all-time men's record ten consecutive Grand Slam finals (
2005 WM – 2007 US),
Federer has reached eight consecutive US Open semifinals (2004–11), tied
for second with Lendl (1982–89) and Djokovic (2007-2014), and trailing only
Connors' twelve consecutive (1974–1985) US Open semifinals |
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j**h 发帖数: 480 | 34 有,他是第三个赢超过1000场的。
It's a grand number for a 17-time Grand Slam champion, making him the only
player after Jimmy Connors (1,253) and Ivan Lendl (1,071) to win 1,000 times
on the men's professional tour. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 Tier 1:
Federer Lendl Wilander Safin Kuerten
Tier 2:
Sampras Edberg Agassi Borg Hewitt Djokovic Kafelnikov
Tier 3:
Nastase Courier Nadal Becker
Tier 4:
McEnroe Connors Roddick |
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 36 一种不明白为啥Lendle和穆雷说拜拜的?有内幕么? |
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u*********e 发帖数: 9616 | 38 Vajda老婆有病,需要照顾不能常年在外面陪着小德跑,所以才找的Becker。
效果so far一般般,还是一年一个大满贯,没什么进步,比Lendl,Chang, Ivanisevic,
Ljubicic效果差多了,也就是和Edberg差不多 |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 39 我觉得最主要的还是mental, been there done that, becker 明白what may be going
on in joker's head in those big moments. so more of sports psychiatrist.
还有就是 becker 的些training regiment. 据说很多非常secretive... 不要把
youtube 上的 pro training clip 当作他们真正的training regiment..... Federer
maybe... he's just way too talented...
Joker 的网球技术其实挺不错的, 但他和lendl相似的地方是he's not "seeing" the
ball.... 导致站位不好或总是有些late to react... maybe becker can teach him
how to see the ball better and earlier... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 40 老麦从不参加红土grand prix, 比如Monte Carlo, Rome。但是即使参加了,胜率
高于2011的Joker也是稳稳的。Joker 2011到后来连输Del Potro, Nishikori之类的
弱人。老麦则全年连灭了#2 Lendl(唯独法网被其连扳3盘,终生遗憾), #3
Connors无数次。
其余他没参加的比如澳网(草地)、Tokyo(carpet),他参加了也一样摧枯拉朽吧。 |
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z*******g 发帖数: 2429 | 41 http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/13376687/tennis-rio-olympi
ESPN:What will Rio teach Andy Murray?
Mark Hodgkinson, Tennis writer
With one year to go, this is the stage of the Olympic cycle when the griping
starts from outside the sport that tennis players shouldn't be Olympians.
But there is an easy counterargument to be made against those who are
opposed to tennis being part of the program in Rio de Janeiro -- and at all
future Games -- and it's the story of what winning a gold medal in Lon... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 43 Some numbers must be wrong. I don't believe it.
Lendl 1701 aces in 1285 matches???
Edberg 1427 aces in 1021 matches??? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 44 老麦那个时候流行懒得参加比赛,比如澳网什么的。当时是他最擅长的草地。
他参加的3个GS中,也就法网决赛被Lendl连扳3盘干掉导致终身遗憾,其他也是没有
输过的。实际上除了这场比赛,以及Cincy第一轮阴沟翻船输给了个老印,其他ATP
比赛只要参加就没输过。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 45 不知道你们纠着这个GS, Masters个数干啥。这些都是偶说的“史上最高积分”。
啥叫统治力?胜率,尤其是对top对手的胜率。
老麦84年对#2 Connors 6-0, 对#3 Lendl 6-1。
老德4-2老费,6-1老姜。
换句话说,Borg 80年左右的统治力不比老费差。他只是懒得参加比赛而已。他好像
保持着GS胜率最高纪录。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 46 输给34的老费两次不算啥太光彩吧。实际上2015老德的难度不比2004老费
大多少,都属于建立统治的黄金时间。扁老姜难度也就当时扁Hewitt差不多。
老麦1984年输了3场,一场输给#3 Lendl,一场输给#6,还有一场输给
一老掉牙无排名的老印。其余top 10,见谁灭谁,包括#2 Connor 6次。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 47 俩都比老麦1984差很远。
老麦那年6-0 Connors, 6-1 Lendl. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 48 25岁老麦笑了。偶一年揍倒比偶小一岁,以fit著称的Lendl 6次。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 49 再有名的教练,都是3把火就歇了。
Lendl,帮僵尸搞了两个满贯,不行了,赶紧急流勇退。
僵尸的教练,被炒之后投奔Berdych,刚开始很猛,半年就歇菜了。现在都拨第八了。
Dimitrov,找了个教练,很猛,GS 4强,然后去年彻底痿掉,只好炒了教练。
小饶,刚炒教练,成绩就猛升。估计也可以持续1年。
唯一成功一点的老费,其实根本不是教练的功劳,全靠换拍,被Edberg take credit
而已。。。 |
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