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z*******2
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一个种族主义者Kubiak,被几百个军版少壮将领们轮流的不分昼夜的发克,没有人帮它
,它是多么的痛苦啊?!?!
z*******2
发帖数: 2643
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哪位高人做个关于Kubiak's Lab Rules的Youtube video ,贴到youtube.com上去。
那里点击率很高的。
m**********e
发帖数: 12525
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UCSD事件最大的作用是测试下中国人的实力,让以前不自信的猥琐男们知道究竟
自己能走到哪一步,这就象黔之驴里面那头老虎在吃掉驴前要先荡倚冲冒一样,
只有这样才能让老虎知道自己可以吃掉驴子。
所以从这个意义上说,我赞成猥琐男们乘胜追击,痛打落水狗,看看究竟能不能
把这个Kubiak彻底搞趴下。因为不这么搞一下,猥琐男们都不知道什么事情上不
可以做缩头乌龟。
v**e
发帖数: 8422
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来自主题: Military版 - UCSD Clifford Kubiak 经费来源
NSF 网站找到更多一点信息:
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0616279
NSF Org: CHE
Division of Chemistry
Initial Amendment Date: April 20, 2006
Latest Amendment Date: January 5, 2009
Award Number: 0616279
Award Instrument: Continuing grant
Program Manager: Timothy E. Patten
CHE Division of Chemistry
MPS Directorate for Mathematical & Physical Sciences
Start Date: August 1, 2006
Expires: July 31, 2011 (Estimated)
Awarded Amount to Date: $867000
Investigator(s): Clifford Kubiak cku... 阅读全帖
v**e
发帖数: 8422
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来自主题: Military版 - UCSD Clifford Kubiak 经费来源
不清楚NSF的经费信息多少年更新,
但是Clifford Kubiak在2011年发表的文章仍然是声称资金来自同一NSF资助----NSF
CHE-0616279.
*********************************
Acknowledgment
We gratefully acknowledge support from NSF CHE-0616279.
*********************************
v**e
发帖数: 8422
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来自主题: Military版 - UCSD Clifford Kubiak 经费来源
小结:
UCSD Clifford Kubiak 主要经费来源应该是NSF(不排除还有其他私人经费).
CHE-0616279.
LINK:
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0616279
Program Manager: Timothy E. Patten
CHE Division of Chemistry
MPS Directorate for Mathematical & Physical Sciences
m*******r
发帖数: 1701
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来自主题: Military版 - Kubiak教授只是说了句心里话
虽然我觉得kubiak傻逼.但也觉得你要体谅一下某些东西。难得有机会跳跳。在国内,
敢么?党国可是要
问:“你是代表党的利益还是老百姓的利益”
再说了,国内现在法律也不能当挡箭牌了。
z*******2
发帖数: 2643
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题目change to:加州华人领袖强烈支持全世界华人对Kubiak的斗争!
z*******2
发帖数: 2643
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题目change to:美国华人领袖强烈支持全世界华人对Kubiak的斗争!
l****u
发帖数: 3130
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题目change to:美国前特拉华州副州长吴仙标强烈支持全世界华人对Kubiak的斗争!
z*******2
发帖数: 2643
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题目change to:
著名美国华人政治家,美国前特拉华州(Delaware)州众议院主席、副州长,美国第一
位华人副州长, 美国华盛顿大学物理学博士学位, 特拉华州州立大学物理学及天文学教
授, 吴仙标强烈支持全世界华人对Kubiak的斗争!
o**********s
发帖数: 2058
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can we delete this post?
Now that everybody knows about 80-20 is doing well, that's enough.
Our strategy shall better not be exposed.
And all of this, could be used against our fight by a lawyer hired by Kubiak
.
j****e
发帖数: 12067
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来自主题: Military版 - 别悲愤了,Kubiak根本无足轻重
各位借此给人扣‘老将‘小将头衔分化中国人挑动内斗的, Kubiak这‘落水狗’的
价值被你们用够了吧。
叫你声chinaman嘴皮子上征个高下,谁也掉不了长不了一块肉。等什么时候华人的利益
真正受损的时候,再看看中国人能否齐心协力,是否一盘散沙,再下结论不迟。
t*s
发帖数: 1504
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来自主题: Military版 - 那个Kubiak还蛮是个人物的
之前人提到了他的youtube,我看了一下
他首页上显著位置Kubiak Lab on YouTube, 点进去是四个视频,全是F18起飞降落。
。。呵呵
J*V
发帖数: 3150
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: pacific (hh), 信区: Military
标 题: Kubiak这名字像俄罗斯或者前南斯拉夫人吧?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 22 15:45:49 2011, 美东)
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
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YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
z*******2
发帖数: 2643
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: zhongguo2 (china), 信区: Military
标 题: 学生对Kubiak的评价,基本上是负面的。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 24 18:15:48 2011, 美东)
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1262517&pag
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
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YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
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YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any of the
following links Or please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-anonymou... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
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YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-anonymous are welcome!
OR please google "Kub... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
21
YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
22
YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
z*i
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来自主题: Football版 - Kubiak suffered mini-stroke
The official diagnosis is that Kubiak suffered a TIA, or transient ischemic
attack, which occurs when a blood clot blocks an artery for a short time.
A TIA involves temporary but reversible loss of function, and doctors tell
Rapoport there are no residual effects. A TIA is considered to be a warning
that blood flow is not what it should be and can be seen as a precursor for
a larger stroke.
"It is treatable, which seems to be the reason for the optimism when you
talk to the Texans," Rapoport sai... 阅读全帖
m********e
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来自主题: Football版 - source: Kubiak will be let go
Bob McNair called a meeting for minority owners. Consensus: Kubiak has to go
. They weren't sure about Rick Smith.
Source: John Granato
s*****s
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来自主题: Football版 - Kubiak, the new Raven's OC...for free
Texas will subtract any additional payment by Ravens from Kubiak's salary.
z*****a
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来自主题: Football版 - Kubiak, the new Raven's OC...for free
Kubiak runs a WCO, which looks like a really bad fit for Flacco and the
Ravens.
w******g
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来自主题: Football版 - 今天表现好,Kubiak要去九人了
只要给,Kubiak肯定去
z****5
发帖数: 732
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来自主题: Football版 - 今天表现好,Kubiak要去九人了
kubiak一定需要一个好QB才行,亚特兰大不错
j*****k
发帖数: 146
s********e
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搞砸了肯定会解雇,不过两人这历史关系应该很利于他们沟通和妥协,Kubiak看着也比
较谦逊大度的一个人。
u**********n
发帖数: 91
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 为什么不接受Kubiak道歉理由
原帖:http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?board=Military&gid=35825881
发信人: pacific (hh), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: UCSDCSSA Update (Tuesday, 5/24)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 25 03:04:25 2011, 美东)
1、rules只有老板才有权力制定吧,随便学生和postdoc怎么可能在实验室主页上制定
实验室rules?
2、他的publications,members,research等等在这两年内有没有更新?有,就说明在
regularly维护,看不到这个rules不make common sense
发信人: ysd (ysd), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: UCSDCSSA Update (Tuesday, 5/24)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 25 03:11:01 2011, 美东)
那个东西08年生蛋节就挂上去了
可不可能这个叫兽三年了,从来不去看自己的网页
太... 阅读全帖
s*********n
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YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
33
YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
34
YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
s*********n
发帖数: 2283
35
YOUR VOICE is VERY important to US!
In case one website is down, you can leave your comments on any or all of
the following links OR please google "Kubiak Slur" for links
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-website-with-
racial-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/24/ucsd-professor-apologizes-
web-site-slur/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-website-over-
slur/
PLEASE show your support and share your comments!
Both anonymous and non-an... 阅读全帖
y*d
发帖数: 2226
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来自主题: Military版 - 有UCSD的同学么?
苦逼鸭苛组的学生名单
确实没有华人名字
http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/directory/search.cfm?g_cid=C03309
NAME EMAIL PHONE OFFICE MCODE CATEGORY GROUP
BENSON, Eric e******[email protected] 822-2477 PACH 4213 0358
Graduate Student KUBIAK, Clifford
BLANE, Travis t****[email protected] 822-3079 PACH 4223A 0358
Graduate Student KUBIAK, Clifford
CANZI, Gabriele g****[email protected] 822-2477 PACH 4213 0358
Graduate Student KUBIAK, Clifford
DOUD, Michael m***[email protected] 8... 阅读全帖
u**********n
发帖数: 91
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - UCSD事件跟进内容
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCSD_Kubiak_Lab_Rules_Incident
A set lab rules containing the word "Chinaman" were found on the group
website of Professor Clifford Kubiak of University of California, San Diego.
It wasn't until May of 2011 when this issue was discovered and raised in
several online Chinese forums. Many felt greatly offended by the lab rules
and wrote letter of complaints to the university and San Diego local media.
Under the pressure, the university and professor Kubiak issued state... 阅读全帖
S*********g
发帖数: 24893
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/23/ucsd-closes-webs
加州大学圣地亚哥分校的网站关闭了污点
教授的发帖引发反弹,提示道歉
帕特弗林,工会论坛
星期一,2011年5月23日在下午8点14分
拉霍亚 - 加州大学圣地亚哥分校的官员已经采取了一
化学教授的网页,使用的术语冒犯中国人民
并发表了道歉声明。
克利福德Kubiak一种,是化学和生物化学教授网页,
看来是一套包括了“实验室规则”,显然意味着要幽默。
前三个“规则”是:“没有迪斯尼音乐”,“不要成为那个人”
和“如果你不能打开仪器,你不应该使用它。”
第4号是:“不要相信任何中国佬说的。”
广泛的知识,开发了网页的内容后周末
张贴在一个华人学者网络论坛上,促使
一个在世界各地的评论乱舞。
“至少在美国,这个词'佬'通常被认为是
贬义,“明宇过,在英国利物浦大学的讲师
英格兰,在电子邮件中写道到圣迭戈联合论坛报。 “用法本
术语是由美国亚裔强烈劝阻组织。
“在这个时代,这是令人难以置信的看到这种种族类型
歧视依然存在,所以我把它给你的注意。“
UCSD的发言人杰夫... 阅读全帖
S*********g
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UCSD校长向公众道歉
Kubiak也将在他的网站贴出道歉信,他本人即将因为对中国人使用歧视性语言接受调查。
http://physicalsciences.ucsd.edu/
An apology for insensitive comments on Professor Kubiak's research lab
website
On behalf of President Mark Yudof, Chancellor Marye Anne Fox, and the UC San
Diego community we are truly disappointed by the insensitive and offensive
language that appeared on the website of Professor Clifford Kubiak.
This language does not conform to our commitment to the UCSD Principles of
Community. We have communicated today... 阅读全帖
y****i
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都是一句半句话的,根本不讲语法,一看就是国人干的。有时候真替你们着急啊!
http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/chem-prof.apologizes-for-websi
with-racial-slur/
158 Responses to “Chem Prof.Apologizes for Website With Racial Slur”
justasking says:
May 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm
The rules appeared on Prof. Kubiak website for about 2 years in the
campus of ucsd, he has never awared about that???
Technically speaking, he was under control the lab rules. If he
unaware, who made that rules and post the rules on his website as
those 1, 2, 3, 4?
If so... 阅读全帖
m****t
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Gosh, guys! Please refer all the sentences Kubiak said:
Kubiak doesn’t have much to say about Peyton’s future
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 20, 2015, 2:23 PM EST
Gary Kubiak
AP
New Broncos head coach Gary Kubiak doesn’t have much to say about whether
he expects Peyton Manning to be his quarterback.
Kubiak said at his introductory press conference today that he has talked to
Manning, but he doesn’t know whether Manning will retire. Kubiak also didn
’t say whether the Broncos want to pa... 阅读全帖
l****u
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http://dailynews.sina.com/gb/news/usa/uslocal/singtao/20110525/
( 本报记者谢珏三藩市报道)
「不要相信中国佬说的任何话!(Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says
)」,加州大学圣地牙哥分校(UCSD)生化系教授Clifford P. Kubiak研究小组赫然将
此列为实验室规定的第四条,此规定出现后立刻被引起华人关注。校方获悉后立即将内
容撤销并发布公开道歉信,而Kubiak本人也在原本显示实验室规定的网页上发表道歉信
,表示事前对该事毫不知情。
化学系撤销研究组网页
Kubiak研究小组的网页上近日发布其实验室规定,其中第三条写道「不要相信中国
佬说的任何话」,此规定一出,立即被转载到一些华人论坛,并引起热烈讨论。一位利
物浦大学(University of Liverpool)的华人讲师在写给圣地牙哥联合论坛报(San
Diego Union-Tribune)的电子邮件表示,「至少在美国,『Chinaman』一词就带有贬
义色彩,用这个词语在美国的亚裔组织被强烈反对的」。
圣... 阅读全帖
c****8
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怎么能当上海科大的副校长?
EDUCATION:
1990 Ph.D. Inorganic Chemistry, Purdue University
1982 Undergraduate Education, East China Normal University, Shanghai,
China.
EXPERIENCE:
1998- Professor of Chemistry, Southeast Missouri State University
1994- Associate Professor of Chemistry, Southeast Missouri State University
1990-1994 Assistant Professor of Chemistry, Southeast Missouri State
University
1993 summer NASA JOVE Research fellow, Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH.
1991 summer Visiting Professor,... 阅读全帖
c***s
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来自主题: Headline版 - 华人怒了 UCSD又起种族风波
近来在种族问题上频频引人关注的加州大学圣地亚哥分校(UCSD)在刚刚过去的周末又起风波,化学系教授克利福德·库比亚克(Clifford Kubiak)的实验室网站上被人发现一个守则,该守则中有针对华裔的种族歧视称谓“Chinaman”。守则原文如下:
UCSD(圣地亚哥加州大学)的化学系教授 Clifford Kubiak 实验室的网页惊现歧视华人的文字
Lab Rules:
0. NO DISNEY MUSIC.
1. Don’t be that guy.
2. If you can’t turn on the instrument, you shouldn’t use it.
3. Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says. (Demoted from rules 1 & 2)
4. No ammount of time is acceptable for food-floor interaction, accept it, it’s gone.
5. If you start a phosphine fire – don’t panic. ... 阅读全帖
b******d
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看看这个稿子好不好?费了些力气找出了他们的email:
c*****[email protected] 作案的教授Kubiak
c********[email protected] UCSD校长Fox
p*******[email protected] UC系统校长 Yudof
g******[email protected] 州长 Brown,也是UC Regent
g***[email protected] 副州长Newsom,也是UC Regent
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吧,估计对歧视比较敏感,同时是UC Regent,管给UCSD等UC系统拨款的
r***********[email protected] UC Regents的群发地址
r*********[email protected] UCSD化学系主任
p*******[email protected] SD Union Tribune独家报道这个事情的记者
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To c*****[email protected], chan... 阅读全帖
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rockme (flyinggame) 于 (Thu May 26 18:36:07 2011, 美东) 提到:
it depends on whether this is intentional. if yes, people should go after
him. if not, this is probably enough.

逼迫学校
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chatman (leo) 于 (Thu May 26 23:53:09 2011, 美东) 提到:
这个lab rule在他主页上贴了两年半,他道歉信里说从不知道,你说可能吗?
你看他主页总共才几个链接。
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chatman (leo) 于 (Fri May 27 00:03:54 2011, 美东) 提到:
错不至死,此话不假。但如果一个华人教授写了类似的话侮辱了白人或黑人,你... 阅读全帖
i***s
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美国东部时间五月二十一日下午,在海外最大的中文BBS“未名空间”的“化学版”,一个名为“怒了,UCSD化学教授公开歧视华裔”的帖子引起了大家的注意;当这个帖子被转发到“未名空间”最热闹的“军事天地”版后,更是迅速聚集了相当的人气。
这个帖子提供的信息显示,美国加州大学圣迭戈分校(UCSD)化学系教授Clifford Kubiak在其网页上http://kubiak.ucsd.edu/labrules.php对其实验室制定了如下规矩:
1. no Disney music
2. don’t be that guy
3. if you can’t turn on the instrument, you shouldn’t use it.
4. “Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says.
其中让“未名空间”这个以海外硕士博士为主的高学历人群聚集的BBS群情激愤的,就是第四条。Chinaman在英语中是一个充满着对华裔歧视色彩的词汇,如今被一个大学教授堂而皇之地在学校网站上用来指代中国人,而且公然说“不要相信任何中国佬的话”,焉能让人不愤怒?
短暂... 阅读全帖
c***c
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来自主题: Military版 - 一起正在发生的辱华事件
美国东部时间五月二十一日下午,在海外最大的中文BBS“未名空间”的“化学版”,
一个名为“怒了,UCSD化学教授公开歧视华裔”的帖子引起了大家的注意;当这个帖子
被转发到“未名空间”最热闹的“军事天地”版后,更是迅速聚集了相当的人气。
这个帖子提供的信息显示,美国加州大学圣迭戈分校(UCSD)化学系教授Clifford
Kubiak在其网页上(http://kubiak.ucsd.edu/labrules.php)对其实验室制定了如下规矩:
1. no Disney music
2. don’t be that guy
3. if you can’t turn on the instrument, you shouldn’t use it.
4. “Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says.
其中让“未名空间”这个以海外硕士博士为主的高学历人群聚集的BBS群情激愤的,就
是第四条。Chinaman在英语中是一个充满着对华裔歧视色彩的词汇,如今被一个大学教
授堂而皇之地在学校网站上用来指代中国人,而且公然说“不要相信任何中国... 阅读全帖
u**********n
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来自主题: Military版 - UCSD Chinaman Wikipedia 怎样才不被删
是不是kubiak在阻挠我们的WIKI词条?
我们创建的wiki词条一再被这个来自UTC(靠近UCSD非常近的一个区)的Thparkth,(
μηδείς, 我查了下:是greek,意思是nothing,no one)
是谁对这件事者这么用心?是不是kubiak实验室的人员?或者干脆就是kubiak本人?
他用了了一个greek的ID,意思是no one,我感觉还是漏出了马脚。
如果是kubiak本人或指使某人阻止wiki词条,可以进一步说明kubiak并非真诚道歉,我
们可以要求kubiak做出进一步解释。
大家看能不能找熟悉greek名字的人看看该实验室的名单:
http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/directory/search.cfm?g_cid=C03309
看哪一个名字与greek有关?谢谢
s*********5
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Internet postings have many light moments. However, on such a matter of community concern, please engage in a serious and substantive discourse when one does not agree with each other. I thank you in advance for that.
Please define any statement precisely. What kind of politician am I supposed to be to participate in such a matter of public concern, and what evidence supports your statement? Just like in the Kubiak case, you will have to base your conclusions on hard evidence to convict someo... 阅读全帖
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