y********k
发帖数: 677 | 1 http://www.economist.com/node/18561803?story_id=18561803&fsrc=r
... One notable success involves a pair of homosexual vultures, Jake and
Judah, who hatched and raised three chicks over three years. All were
successfully released into the wild. This story, biblically challenging,
is not signposted on the vultures’ enclosure. |
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m*****a
发帖数: 92 | 2 www.jewishjournal.com/you_tai_ren/item/jews_origin_etymology_20110224/
几千年前，中东地区有个人叫做阿乌辣罕(Avraham)，即通常所说的亚伯拉罕(Abraham)。
阿乌辣罕有个儿子名叫依次哈克(Yitzchak)，即通常所说的以撒(Isaac)。
依次哈克有个儿子叫雅阿科乌(Ya’aqov)，即通常所说的雅各(Jacob)。雅阿科乌曾参
与一次角力，于是被改名叫伊斯辣埃珥(Yisrael)——这个名字与角力有关，即通常所说
的以色列(Israel)。
以色列有十二个儿子，子又生子，孙又生孙，形成了以色列民十二部族，在以色列地建
立了一个又一个王国。其中有名气的是达威德(David)，即通常所说的大卫的王国。还
有一个有名气的是达威德之子舍罗默(Shelomo)，即通常所说的所罗门(Solomon)的王国。
以色列的儿子之中有一个叫做耶胡达(Yehuda)，达威德和舍罗默都属于耶胡达部族。斗
转星移，大浪淘沙。以色列民诸部族大部分湮灭在历史中，以色列余民慢慢整合于耶胡达部。
希伯来语和汉语普通话发音有所不同，耶胡... 阅读全帖 |
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n********n
发帖数: 8336 | 3 http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/revelation/5/
Revelation 5
1 And I saw in the right hand of the One seated on the throne+ a scroll
written on both sides,* sealed tight with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong
angel proclaiming with a loud voice: “Who is worthy to open the scroll and
break its seals?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or underneath the
earth was able to open the scroll or to look into it. 4 I gave way to a
great deal of weeping because no one was found worthy... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 4 首届poker世界团体赛,中国队夺得冠军(几分钟前).
http://www.zhiyoucheng.com/thread-1827-25-1.html
中国队阵容: 队长为Johnny Chan和David Chiu，队员为Derek Cheung，Chau Giang，
Maria Ho，Winfred Yu和Rich Zhu。
其他七队的阵容为：
Team USA: Doyle Brunson, Phil Hellmuth, Allen Cunningham, Chris
Ferguson, Jennifer Harman, Howard Lederer, Mike Matusow
Team Vietnam: Men "The Master Nguyen" Scotty Nguyen, Kenny Tran, Tim Phan,
John Phan, Karina Jett
Team Australia: Jeff Lisandro Tony Guoga, Mel Judah, David Saab, Gary Benson
Team England: Ben |
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m*****a
发帖数: 92 | 5 www.jewishjournal.com/you_tai_ren/item/jews_origin_etymology_20110224/
几千年前，中东地区有个人叫做阿乌辣罕(Avraham)，即通常所说的亚伯拉罕(Abraham)。
阿乌辣罕有个儿子名叫依次哈克(Yitzchak)，即通常所说的以撒(Isaac)。
依次哈克有个儿子叫雅阿科乌(Ya’aqov)，即通常所说的雅各(Jacob)。雅阿科乌曾参
与一次角力，于是被改名叫伊斯辣埃珥(Yisrael)——这个名字与角力有关，即通常所说
的以色列(Israel)。
以色列有十二个儿子，子又生子，孙又生孙，形成了以色列民十二部族，在以色列地建
立了一个又一个王国。其中有名气的是达威德(David)，即通常所说的大卫的王国。还
有一个有名气的是达威德之子舍罗默(Shelomo)，即通常所说的所罗门(Solomon)的王国。
以色列的儿子之中有一个叫做耶胡达(Yehuda)，达威德和舍罗默都属于耶胡达部族。斗
转星移，大浪淘沙。以色列民诸部族大部分湮灭在历史中，以色列余民慢慢整合于耶胡
达部。
希伯来语和汉语普通话发音有所不同，耶... 阅读全帖 |
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s******g
发帖数: 775 | 6 “因为有个恶者挑动大卫”？
这个“恶者”出自哪里啊？
几个英文版都是说lord愤怒，然后指使大卫去count, number 或者murder Israel and
Judah
t=NKJV&x=49&y=7&b=2Sa&c=24&v=1#vrsn/1 |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 7 看看blackdragon提供的wiki链接：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almah
Isaiah 7:14 controversy
Main article: Isaiah 7:14
From the earliest days of Christianity, Jewish critics have argued that
Christians were mistaken in their reading of almah in Isaiah 7:14.[13]
Because the author of Matthew 1:23, believed that Jesus was born of a virgin
, he quoted Isaiah: "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring
forth a son" as a proof-text for the divine origin of Jesus. Jewish scholars
[who?] declare that... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 8 The Relativity of Biblical Ethics
by Joe Edward Barnhart (1988)
It is an axiom among fundamentalists and evangelicals that theology is the
foundation of ethics and morality in North America culture. Without this
foundation, they fear, ethics would fragment into total relativism of
dissolve into whim, arbitrariness, and chaos. I would like to contest that
view by showing how some organized religions are parasitical to the body of
ethics and how the Bible itself exemplifies moral relativism.
Vario... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****a
发帖数: 92 | 9 www.jewishjournal.com/you_tai_ren/item/jews_origin_etymology_20110224/
几千年前，中东地区有个人叫做阿乌辣罕(Avraham)，即通常所说的亚伯拉罕(Abraham)。
阿乌辣罕有个儿子名叫依次哈克(Yitzchak)，即通常所说的以撒(Isaac)。
依次哈克有个儿子叫雅阿科乌(Ya’aqov)，即通常所说的雅各(Jacob)。雅阿科乌曾参
与一次角力，于是被改名叫伊斯辣埃珥(Yisrael)——这个名字与角力有关，即通常所说
的以色列(Israel)。
以色列有十二个儿子，子又生子，孙又生孙，形成了以色列民十二部族，在以色列地建
立了一个又一个王国。其中有名气的是达威德(David)，即通常所说的大卫的王国。还
有一个有名气的是达威德之子舍罗默(Shelomo)，即通常所说的所罗门(Solomon)的王国。
以色列的儿子之中有一个叫做耶胡达(Yehuda)，达威德和舍罗默都属于耶胡达部族。斗
转星移，大浪淘沙。以色列民诸部族大部分湮灭在历史中，以色列余民慢慢整合于耶胡
达部。
希伯来语和汉语普通话发音有所不同，耶... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 10 4) Miscellaneous Murders
More of Samson's Murders
(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30
murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he
reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of
the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is
consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him
was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it
killed... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 11 God promised, "thine house … shall be established forever before thee." The
term "house" refers to David's physical seed (posterity or people) who come
from David's physical line (see Psalm 89:3-4, 36; 2 Chron. 21:7). David is
ultimately promised that he would have a family of people (house) which stem
s from his loins that would someday inherit an eternal kingdom over which a
king will rule. But this promise contains more than this.
This promise presupposes (assumes) that God would keep the Jew... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 12 By Pastor Kelly Sensenig
Of course, the ultimate promise and fulfillment of the Davidic Covenant is t
hat the house (David's posterity) would actually rule with Christ forever in
the kingdom. There would be a group of Jewish brethren in the future who wo
uld rule with Christ forever and forever ("thine house shall be established
forever"). Someday God will bring His people ("house") into the Promised Lan
d and they will reign with Christ forever with Christ as their King (See Luk
e 1:33). Jesus ... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 13 CHAPTER XI
Of Justification
I. Those whom God effectually calleth, he also freely justifieth:[235] not
by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by
accounting and accepting their persons as righteous; not for anything
wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s sake alone; nor by
imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical
obedience to them, as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and
satisfaction of Christ unto them,[236... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 14 Daddy!
September 18, 2011 — by Anne Cetas
Our Daily Bread Radio is hosted by Les Lamborn
Read: 2 Kings 19:10-19
Incline Your ear, O Lord, and hear; open Your eyes, O Lord, and see. —2 Kin
gs 19:16
Bible in a year:
Proverbs 30-31; 2 Corinthians 11:1-15
Twenty-month-old James was leading his family confidently through the hallwa
ys of their large church. His daddy kept an eye on him the whole time as Jam
es toddled his way through the crowd of “giants.” Suddenly the little boy
panicked because he ... 阅读全帖 |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 15 144,000是启示录上的数字，说的很具体。后来教会觉得这样不利于教内团结和教外传
教，就把这个数字模糊话和抽象话处理
Revelation
7-
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the
tribes of Israel.
5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12
,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from
the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from
the tribe of Issachar 12,000,... 阅读全帖 |
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r********7
发帖数: 887 | 16 不评论，请看《比利时信条》英文版
Article 18: The Incarnation
So then we confess that God fulfilled the promise which he had made to
the early fathers by the mouth of his holy prophets when he sent his only
and eternal Son into the world at the time set by him.
The Son took the "form of a servant" and was made in the "likeness of
man,"^33 truly assuming a real human nature, with all its weaknesses, except
for sin; being conceived in the womb of the blessed virgin Mary by the
power of the Holy Spirit, wit... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******s
发帖数: 13043 | 17 http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Jesu
JESUS' REAL BIRTHDAY
Most biblical scholars and preachers readily admit that they know Christ was
not born on December 25th. However, they claim that this day is as good as
any other to celebrate the birth of Jesus, despite the fact that it was
originally a pagan celebration called Saturnalia which commemorated the
birth of the sun god.
God had this to say about appropriating pagan methods of worship and trying
to honor Him with th... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 18 Ezekiel’s prophecy of Tyre is very interesting to look at. In fact, it’s
one that is often used as evidence by both sides of the inerrancy debate.
Ezekiel 26-28 details a prophecy against the island city of Tyre. It was a
great trade center that features fairly prominently throughout the Bible.
Once the nation of Judah was led into captivity by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon
, Ezekiel prophesied destruction for Tyre, since they were glad at the
destruction that had been wrought on Jerusalem. And the ... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 19 http://pay2cem.hubpages.com/hub/Epic-Bible-Fails-Top-10-Failed-
10. “I have sworn to David my servant, I will establish your seed forever,
and build up your throne for all generations.” - Psalms 89:3-4
“David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel
.” - Jeremiah 33:17
According to the speaker of this prophecy (God), a descendant of
David will always be on the throne of Israel. This is obviously not the case
however, as David’s line ended 21 generations later... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 20 TOP TEN SIGNS THAT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN.
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other
religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune
God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of th... 阅读全帖 |
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y**l
发帖数: 714 | 21 我只找到了圣经里不支持杀害无辜的经文——
Exodus 23:6 “Do not deny justice to your poor people in their lawsuits. 7
Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest
person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Deuteronomy 19:11 But if out of hate someone lies in wait, assaults and
kills a neighbor, and then flees to one of these cities, 12 the killer shall
be sent for by the town elders, be brought back from the city, and be
handed over to the avenger of blood to die. 13 Show no pity... 阅读全帖 |
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r****z
发帖数: 12020 | 22 好像还真对，我查到这个：
"And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed
adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her
treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."
“背道的以色列行淫，我为这缘故给她休书休她。我看见她奸诈的妹妹犹大还不惧怕，
也去行淫。”
不过这个以色列好像是 ex 啊。她是人还是神啊？ |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 23 "Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most
mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not
only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, whe... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 24 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 上帝不喜欢恶人受罚，而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 25 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 至于Jere 19:9那段提到吃子女的经文，你理解的就更离谱了。
看看这两本study bible就理解了。这里说的是上帝的预言，而且是敌人围困造成的。
上帝坐视不管而已。因为以色列人崇拜偶像神。上帝惩罚以色列人的罪。
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the ... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 26 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 上帝不喜欢恶人受罚，而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 27 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 至于Jere 19:9那段提到吃子女的经文，你理解的就更离谱了。
看看这两本study bible就理解了。这里说的是上帝的预言，而且是敌人围困造成的。
上帝坐视不管而已。因为以色列人崇拜偶像神。上帝惩罚以色列人的罪。
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 28 多谢，这可以解释很多疑问
The ancient Israelites were polytheists, Brody told Discovery News, "with
only a small minority worshiping Yahweh alone before the historic events of
586 B.C." In that year, an elite community within Judea was exiled to
Babylon and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. This, Brody said, led to
"a more universal vision of strict monotheism: one god not only for Judah,
but for all of the nations." |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 29 你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果神不惩罚恶，那神不就不正义了吗？
所以上帝让以色列人屠城不是没有原因的。一是怕以色列人受到迦南人恶习的影响，二
是对恶的惩罚。
Deuteronomy 18这里还列出了迦南人其他的一切罪恶的活动，巫术，烧子女，等。
9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to
imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found
among you who sacrifices... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 30 37:15- 耶和华的话又临到我说，
37:16- 人子阿，你要取一根木杖，在其上写为犹大和他的同伴以色列人。又取一根木
杖，在其上写为约瑟，就是为以法莲，又为他的同伴以色列全家。
37:17- 你要使这两根木杖接连为一，在你手中成为一根。
37:18- 你本国的子民问你说，这是什么意思。你不指示我们麽。
37:19- 你就对他们说，主耶和华如此说，我要将约瑟和他同伴以色列支派的杖，就是
那在以法莲手中的，与犹大的杖一同接连为一，在我手中成为一根。
37:20- 你所写的那两根杖要在他们眼前拿在手中，
The Stick of Judah, & The Stick of Ephraim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXOQTCWkqyg |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 31 对，地球还有柱子和四个角呢，虽然要长练习，不过这个宝耍的可远远比不上钞票上帝
的精彩
Job 9:6
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the
outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR
CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE
EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on
the earth, nor on the sea, n... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 32 对，地球还有柱子和四个角呢，虽然要长练习，不过这个宝耍的可远远比不上钞票上帝
的精彩
Job 9:6
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the
outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR
CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE
EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on
the earth, nor on the sea, n... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 33 怪就怪在Flavius Josephus费了不少笔墨描写Simon of Peraea，Athronges, Menahem
ben Judah, Vespasian,而和作家时间更靠近的耶稣就没啥记录啊，有的那段还是公认
的伪造品
Simon of Peraea
"There was also Simon, who had been a slave of king Herod, but in other
respects a comely person, of a tall and robust body; he was one that was
much superior to others of his order, and had had great things committed to
his care. This man was elevated at the disorderly state of things, and was
so bold as to put a diadem on his head, while a certain number of the p... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 34 你浪费了你的炮弹了吗？看圣经：
Genesis 38
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your
duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up [d]offspring for your brother
.” 9 Onan knew that the [e]offspring would not be his; so when he went in
to his brother’s wife, he [f]wasted his seed on the ground in order not to
give [g]offspring to his brother. 10 But what he did was displeasing in the
sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.
he [f]wasted his seed on the ground in order not to ... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 35 你浪费了你的炮弹了吗？看圣经：
Genesis 38
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your
duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up [d]offspring for your brother
.” 9 Onan knew that the [e]offspring would not be his; so when he went in
to his brother’s wife, he [f]wasted his seed on the ground in order not to
give [g]offspring to his brother. 10 But what he did was displeasing in the
sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.
he [f]wasted his seed on the ground in order not to ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 36 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 新名基名言 婴儿活下来没人照顾，会受苦，（某些人的观点认为人生是痛苦的，）也许直接杀
死更人道。
发信人: JasonYang (Jason), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 路易斯安那州一个牧师“布道”时被当众枪杀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 30 16:37:49 2013, 美东)
你对圣经的理解有误。
还用错误的理解侮辱基督教，这是版上几个极端反基的通病。
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，使上帝的公正和爱不矛盾。
1 Timothy 2
5 For th... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 37 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 新名基名言 婴儿活下来没人照顾，会受苦，（某些人的观点认为人生是痛苦的，）也许直接杀
死更人道。
发信人: JasonYang (Jason), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 路易斯安那州一个牧师“布道”时被当众枪杀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 30 16:37:49 2013, 美东)
你对圣经的理解有误。
还用错误的理解侮辱基督教，这是版上几个极端反基的通病。
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，使上帝的公正和爱不矛盾。
1 Timothy 2
5 For th... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 38 你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果神不惩罚恶，那神不就不正义了吗？
所以上帝让以色列人屠城不是没有原因的。一是怕以色列人受到迦南人恶习的影响，二
是对恶的惩罚。
Deuteronomy 18这里还列出了迦南人其他的一切罪恶的活动，巫术，烧子女，等。
9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to
imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found
among you who sacrifice ... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 39 Contraception
Historically, Christians always have condemned contraceptive sex. The two
forms mentioned in the Bible, and sterilization, are
condemned without exception (Gen. 38:9-10, Deut. 23:1). The Fathers of the
Church recognized that in natural law the purpose of sexual intercourse is
procreation; contraceptive sex, which deliberately blocks that natural
purpose, is therefore a violation of natural law.
Every church in Christendom condemned contraception until 1930, whe... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 40 上帝允许satan去做这件事。跟job里山地允许satan搞job一样。
1 chro
21:1 An adversary 1 opposed 2 Israel, inciting David to count how many
warriors Israel had. 3
1 tn Or “Satan.” The Hebrew word שָׂטָן
; (satan) can refer to an adversary in general or Satan in particular. There
is no article accompanying the term here, which suggests it should be
understood generally (cf. NAB “a satan”).
2 tn Heb “stood against.”
3 tn Heb “and incited David to count Israel.” As v. 5 indicates, David... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 41 而且你对经文理解错误。
请看
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the flesh of one another. |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 42 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 真诚则无敌 ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the flesh of one another.
them |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 43 snoppyfirst已经解释很多遍了。
看看这两本study bible就理解了。这里说的是上帝的预言，而且是敌人围困造成的。
上帝坐视不管而已。因为以色列人崇拜偶像神。
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the flesh of one another. |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 44
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，显明了上帝的爱。
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man
Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now
been witnessed to at the proper time.
神爱世人，甚至将他的独生子赐给他们，叫一切信他的，不至灭亡，反得永生。
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 45 你对圣经的理解有误。
还用错误的理解侮辱基督教，这是版上几个极端反基的通病。
看看这两本study bible就理解了。这里说的是上帝的预言，而且是敌人围困造成的。
上帝坐视不管而已。因为以色列人崇拜偶像神。上帝惩罚以色列人的罪。
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters a... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 46 你对圣经的理解有误。
还用错误的理解侮辱基督教，这是版上几个极端反基的通病。
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，使上帝的公正和爱不矛盾。
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man
Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now
been witnessed to at t... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 48 你对圣经的理解有误。
还用错误的理解侮辱基督教，这是版上几个极端反基的通病。
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，使上帝的公正和爱不矛盾。
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man
Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now
been witnessed to at t... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 49 你对圣经理解错误，你在反你自己歪曲理解的圣经。
请看：
对圣经的理解听反基的还是基督徒的
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TrustInJesus/971321.html
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。
上帝屠城不是没有原因的。而是对恶的惩罚。
那么反基的焦点是：儿童有什么罪。
这是细节，圣经作者没有回答，基督徒只能说不知道。
不要见到杀人就说成恶。上帝对恶的惩罚就是把那些恶人处死。焦点始终是婴儿。
圣经的善体现在很多地方：创世，上帝保佑人，并提供食物，出埃及记，上帝把以色列
人救出埃及，让他们脱离奴隶制。上帝给以色列人土地，等等，最后到耶稣，为所有信
他的人提供永生。
上帝的公正与善和爱不矛盾，体现在耶稣的到来和死而复生，作为人与神之间的协调人
，使上帝的公正和爱不矛盾。
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man
Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself ... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 50 看看这两本study bible就理解了。这里说的是上帝的预言，而且是敌人围困造成的。
上帝坐视不管而已。因为以色列人崇拜偶像神。上帝惩罚以色列人的罪。
ESV study bible
Jer. 19:9 eat the flesh. Because of the lack of food caused by the siege,
the people of Judah will turn to cannibalism
NET bible
Jer
19:9 I will reduce the people of this city to desperate straits during the
siege imposed on it by their enemies who are seeking to kill them. I will
make them so desperate that they will eat the flesh of their own sons and
daughters and the flesh of one another.
them |
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