n***r
发帖数: 2074 | 1 Accessories4less上，iQ3新的350，iQ30 Open Box的390.
买哪个比较合适？放在书房，主要听Classic，Jazz 和Blue，能给点建议吗？ |
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m*c
发帖数: 74 | 2 多谢鼓励和包子，有了动力继续写。
上次说到意识到即使同一牌子，不同的音箱，声音也是差别巨大的。那马上迎来的问题
就是：哪个好呢？现在再看这个问题可以认为这完全是一个哲学问题。也是玩音响中永
远要面对，永远没有一定答案的问题。当时没想这么多。而且杂志上也到处都是答案：
以现场为准啦（HIFI嘛，高保真么），问题是我不玩乐器，没钱也没什么现场可听。而
且如果是摇滚的现场那么声音都是从音箱里放出来，根本没有HIFI里的FI。这条路行不
大通。（当然，这是玩音响的一个重大哲学问题，就是音响，或者电声的目标是什么？
还原现场么？没有现场或者根本就是电声乐器怎么办？如果不是以现场为标准，那么回
到第一个问题，怎么才能说谁比谁好呢？）扯远了，那么另一个办法就是简单的相信一
分钱一分货。贵的比便宜的好。于是想了一个自认为聪明的办法。不是经常说贵很多钱
才能换来好一点的声音么？那么为了确保声音有足够的进步以能听的出来，来个价格倍
增如何？就是每次设备都比上次的贵一倍。再看看能不能明确的说出贵的怎么好？为什
么好？
实验是在KEF系列里面做的，先买了一对KEF的Cresta2，才200多刀，绝对的入门级。... 阅读全帖 |
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l**v
发帖数: 188 | 3 IQ1和IQ10有什么区别？我是想买他家的IQ30，不知道和IQ3有什么区别？差了40.不过
IQ30是open box的，应该比IQ3的condition好一点吧。IQ3是new factory sealed。 |
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k*****n
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Victoon (骑着黑色王子的马) 于 (Fri Aug 28 02:25:47 2009, 美东) 提到:
decent condition, has been refoamed. they will be used for all purposes:
karaoke(primary reason to buy them), music, movies. they are impressive!
there are pros and cons compared to my IQ3.
Pros:
greater bass extension and roll off gently. may not be as tight as the iq3,
but somewhat more natural and comfortable to listen to.
cons:
the tweeter is harsh and very directional. if I sit off center an |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 6 I have a pair of KEF IQ3 for sale if anyone is interested. I bought them
from a local dealer last auguest. They are in mint condition and I have
everything (box, manual, etc). I have always used a subwoofer crossover so
that the IQ3 don't produce frequency below 80hz. Asking for $240 plus
shipping. |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 8 is it pretty good for general purpose use (half movie and half music)? I
found a deal for a pair of store demo at $250. should I just take it? |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 9 Source: consumer level Philips DVD
Receiver: Marantz SR4021
Speakers: KEF IQ3
Stands: cheapest (to be replaced)
Cable: $20 Monster Cable
Speaker wire: 11 gauge
Karaoke DVD player: 步步高 KD007
Microphone: Shure SH58 (with decent HASA Cable)
Mixer: N/A
Computer Sound card: Diamond S70
Headphone: Sennheiser HD495 |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 10
有底。
thanks! that's exactly what I thought. I wanted to have something neutral to
start with so that I can develop a correct perspective.
My wife did a little Karaoke last night using the IQ3 (we were very careful,
keeping a low volume) just out of curiosity. the vocal was pretty amazing,
even without a real mixer. But looks like the barrier for the ultimate
Karaoke is not the equipment, but the source. the music sounded terrible
with the KEF (it also made most of my MP3s unbearable to listen). |
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i*d
发帖数: 2640 | 12 bose 301就是bookshelf啊。
那就iq3，大点。
柜子多宽，客厅多大？ |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 14 looking for a good sub to go with my KEF IQ3 in a large room for music only.
is it worthwhile? or should I save and buy full range speakers instead? |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 15 my current problem is the IQ3 has a steep roll off at the bass. the effect
of now-you-hear-it and now-you-don't is very evident. it reproduces drum
sometime unnaturally, because only part of the frequency is there. now the
ar94 made me realized the natural sound of a gentle bass roll-off from a
sealed box is not something I can live without (it doesn't have to go very
deep). but I don't know if a sub can blend in easily. also, I wonder if they
will be as natural as true full range speakers. |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 16 I ordered KEF PSW2500. will arrive tomorrow. a little anxious now. hopefully
they will mate the IQ3 well. they are actually from the same line. |
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m******e
发帖数: 40 | 17 Nad C325BEE, KEF IQ3.
I also placed an order for Marantz CD 5003.
Do I need to buy audio cables to connect them?
or the cables come with those products?
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 20 唱歌时发出的s的声音频率是多少？我觉得我的KEF IQ3的s音比我的A94R有点重，我怀
疑这是不是因为ar94有BBC dip (around 3khz)。谢了！ |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 21 一直要给我的iq3做两个像样的wood stands，上周末终于做的差不多了，birch
polywood的，就差灌沙子封顶了，但是买的沙子(play sand)有些湿，只好暂时拖下来
，今晚正好有空，正在用我的汤锅炒沙子，一个stand两锅，一锅一个小时，还要搅拌
，争取今晚做完一个！ |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 22 the wood screws are pretty long with fine and tall threads. But you are
right, I should add a couple more just to make sure.
the center column is 26 inches. so the whole thing including feets is a
little over 28 inches. the bottom plate is 11*14 and top is 8*11. So it's
definitely enough for the iq3, which is very narrow and deep. But the sizes
of the column and bottom plate were mainly restricted by the 2*4 feet poly
board I bought. In the future, if money is no object, I would use a bigger
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x********i
发帖数: 59 | 23 打算入一对箱子 倾向书架箱子 虽然没了落地的全面性 但搬家的时候便于携带
音乐50% 电影35% 游戏15%
喜欢声场大，中频厚，高音亮点，动态稍微好点的箱子
暂时打算入B&W 685, 听过，感觉还行，声场挺大，细节不够，$640 out the door
但听说这款性价比不高，还有其他推荐的吗？
比如b&w cm1 或 cm5(超了点预算) KEF IQ3 oe IQ30, Paradigm reference series，
或者Dynaudio 书架?
还是咬咬牙上2千多的b&w 805s? |
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x********i
发帖数: 59 | 24 这两天去了好几个dealer
B&W KEF paradigm还有polk
听了B&W 683 684 685 CM1 CM5 CM9 802D 803D 805S
６８５系列性价比不错 高中低都有了 但中频不是那么厚 有点毛刺感
ＣＭ解析好 但也就那样了 没有特别震撼的感觉
８００系列明显好很多 ８０５s 相比685 中频更厚 声场更广 算是比较震撼
但听流行也就跟685差不多
可惜他们价格比较坚挺，dealer一般只给可怜的10% discount
KEF IQ1 IQ3 IQ7 跟600系列可能是一个档次的吧，但不是很喜欢 特别是低音
折扣较多 特别是网上
paradigm 的monitor series 跟b&w600系列差不多 可能稍差一点
没怎么谈价格
polk的 lsi 9 rti 12 rti 7 清一色至少50% off
以前国内也听过dynaudio elac还是比较喜欢b&w的风格
本来想入B&W 685的，最后还是选805了，mid range好很多
805明年1月new model 805D diamond版要出来了 价格从现在的2800涨到5000刀。。。 |
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d******0
发帖数: 22800 | 27 其实，网上的所有的review 中英文法日都是米饭一个人写的，他是一个练左右互搏高
度分裂的高潮专业写手。
哈哈哈！！！ |
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s**********s
发帖数: 7387 | 28 老款和新款有什么区别？
IQ3/30我都嫌大了，IQ10会不会很垃圾呢 |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 29 thanks for the good words. Building my first speakers really was a game
changer. Now I'm gonna sell off our IQ3 and AR94 since I can easily build
speakers a couple of notches better. I am currently investigating ways to
improve the strength and precession of the enclosure construction. that
might delay things a bit. |
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m*c
发帖数: 74 | 33 上次对比了Cresta2和iQ3，发现瞬时切换可以解决那个音箱好的问题。（当然还是有很
多细节问题的，比如音箱的灵敏度不一样，用同一个功放A/B对比时候让你不容易判断
。所以理论上应该用两个一样但是有音量的功放，并假设电位器在不同位置不影响音质
。不过买两个一样的功放太过分了，所以我现在用两个不同的功放，都带mute或
speaker switch，然后瞬时切换，虽然比的不是音箱本身的不同，但也算是两套系统的
直接对比了。）又扯远了，总之带来的新问题是：如果新的，贵的不一定好，那怎么知
道买哪个好呢？怎么升级呢？这时想到的一个主意就是看看音响史上有什么有名的音箱
？过了几年几十年，评价基本是盖棺定论了。相对的新产品，相信所有人都发现了新产
品的评论文章基本是一样的，把主语通通一换就是另一篇测评。最可恨的是你看不太出
贵的比便宜的好在哪儿。通通是音色甜美，音场开阔。。。
有名的老产品不多，什么音响史上的10大，25大啥的。在音箱中不管谁评论通通都有的
，音响史上的一个传奇就是--Ls3/5A。这真是一个巨大的topic了，有人都给写出书来
了，世界各地的玩家收藏家无数，评论文章无数，各种... 阅读全帖 |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 37 we will definitely need floor-standing speakers for our family room. But we
don't want to spend a lot of money right now and we are not sure how picky
our ears are and how often we listen to music seriously. so I think I am
gonna buy a used bookshelf system hopefully around $600. then when we are
ready to upgrade, we can still use the bookshelf system in our bedroom.
I saw a deal for a pair of KEF IQ3 for $230. I might just pull the trigger.
any comments or recommendations?
stands |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 38 just bought a refurbished Marantz SR4021 receiver and some audio and speaker
cables for $250. I think I am gonna get the KEF IQ3 too. they have good
reputation. and the price is good enough. |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 39 I have figured it out. basically the sub will be connected to the receiver's
preamp out, filter and amp the base, and out put the rest of the signal
back to the power amp of the receiver. It will work well with my receiver.
I got the KEF IQ3 home today. the Marantz will arrive tomorrow. I will go
pick up a pair of stands for $25 off craig's list tomorrow. then I will be
in business.
I think this will be a good entry system. very accurate, neutral, great mid
range. my LD and I will enjoy and trai |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 40 This is gonna be the most difficult to tackle; my LD is not gonna let me
mess with wall and we have some big empty walls. maybe we can hang something
decorative and absorbent. We don't even have carpet yet. oh well, baby
steps. the IQ3s are so small compared to the PA speakers (8 inch woofers,
but not ours) we were using for a while.
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s**********s
发帖数: 7387 | 41 你就算投资买了2万刀的X5，3万刀的iq3，甚至滚扫，也不可能追上D3x的信号质量的。
btw，肯大嘴究竟忽悠了这里多少人？
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