b***a
发帖数: 377 | 1 摘录某基督教家庭的一位家长的facebook 状态：
“
With Trump elected, we will have an immoral image of a president. But we can
still teach our children about sins, bible standards, and we can teach them
to pray for the president so that he may repent. Although it's up to God.
On the other hand, with Clinton elected, we will have a so called better
presidential image. But we will have immoral values rooted in people's
hearts through the judicial system. It will make it much more difficult to
discern the problem. Or t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1709 | 2 https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-society-would-collapse-if-it-
werent-for-these-8-myths/
Myth No. 8—We have a democracy.
If you think we still have a democracy or a democratic republic, ask
yourself this: When was the last time Congress did something that the people
of America supported that did not align with corporate interests? … You
probably can’t do it. It’s like trying to think of something that rhymes
with “orange.” You feel like an answer exists but then slowly realize it
doesn... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2883 | 3 又是 一年 圣诞节 ,又是有关中國人过不过 圣诞的争论 时分。 今年看了 一下 ,那些
主张中国人该过圣诞节 的似乎站主流, 他们 拿出 的一个主要 理由 就是-- 如果圣诞
节 不能过, 那 元旦,星期也 不能 过, 因为 也是 西方来的,还有人说 那 马克思主义
,电脑 电话 是不是 也都 不能用。 提出这样论点 的 不少还是 中国学者专家一类。
不由我不 感叹中国文化的另类性,与 西方文化的 不兼容性。
在此特地 介绍我在西方 学到的西方文化道德逻辑 less evil 说。
我 第一次接触到这个 西方 逻辑是我 刚来时, 我回请西人同学吃饭,两个西人 同学跟
我说 她们 不吃肉素食者。 当时我们 很友好,我就问为什么,说是杀死 动物的时候动
物会很痛苦,她们不忍 。我嘲笑她们说,那最新研究 发现植物也有痛感,要割它们做面
包时 他们肯定 也会痛苦,那是不是你们 也不能吃面包了呢? 我这就是典型的中国文化
逻辑,说时得意洋洋自以为 逻辑上无可辩驳。她们回答我的 是我从来没想到没有在中
国文化中学到的 - less evil, 就是说尽管吃植物 也罪过,但是我们还是有道德责任能
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发帖数: 1709 | 4 China is the source of all our problems. Right? LOL! What a total SHAM!
It has nothing to do with the fact that our Government WASTES $Trillions of
dollars every year on Military and ILLEGAL and IMMORAL WARS, or that we have
a NANNY POLICE STATE, Prison Industrial Complex, Military Industrial
Complex, CRONIE CRAPITALISM, it has nothing to do with our Central BANK
MAFIA printing unlimited FIAT TRASH CASH making unsustainable BUBBLES
everywhere. It has nothing to do with the fact that American... 阅读全帖 |
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t***h
发帖数: 40 | 5 IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
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In re Joshua Tin )
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发帖数: 4174 | 6 NOM'S TOUR MASTERMIND,FACEBOOK FOUNDER,AND ONLINE STRATEGIST,LOUIS MARINELLI
, NOW SUPPORTS OUR CIVIL MARRIAGE EQUALITY! THE MUCH-BALLYHOOED SUMMER
MARRIAGE TOUR 2010 OPENED HIS EYES!
(*Interview conducted via email)
(1) G-A-Y's JEREMY HOOPER: On record, I'd ask you to go through the list of
comments you have written/ Tweeted/ blogged/ Facebooked and repudiate any/
all that you now see were objectionable.
LOUIS MARINELLI: I quoted from the research of Paul Cameron when I said that
homosexuals ha... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 7 巴基斯坦穆斯林利用该国的“渎神法”，要求法院裁定圣经部分章节“渎神”，否则会
提出禁整本圣经
Pakistani Muslim Clerics: Ban the Bible
Wednesday, June 01, 2011
By Patrick Goodenough
Quran burning
Pakistani lawyers burn a U.S. flag during a protest against plans to burn
copies of the Quran, in Multan, Pakistan on Thursday, Sept. 9, 2010. (AP
Photo/Khalid Tanveer)
(CNSNews.com) – A group of radical clerics in Pakistan wants the country’s
Supreme Court to declare certain passages in the Bible blasphemous –
because they depict as flawed certain b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1383 | 8
你是说最早发现新大陆的那一拨是非法移民吗？
那时候还没有sovereignty, 连“移民”这个概念都不存在，何来非法/合法？
你可以说那些那一拨是英国的罪犯，但是彼“非法”不是此“非法”
你也可以说那一拨侵占印第安人领地immoral, 但是immoral不等于illegal，也不是这
里谈的非法移民的“非法”
结论 = 脑袋糨糊的可以
这里概念分都不清楚就来瞎掺和的人可真多 |
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发帖数: 4321 | 9 The Bible on the Poor
or, Why God is a liberal
The Bible contains more than 300 verses on the poor, social justice, and God
's deep concern for both. This page contains a wide sample of them, and some
reflections. It's aimed at anyone who takes the Bible seriously.
As you read these passages, you will very likely feel a good deal of
resistance (possibly at first manifesting itself as indifference). American
churches have departed strongly from Biblical values in these areas, and
even created a r... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 272 | 10 Was he saying that "government borrowed and spent more and more than it took
. That is immoral", not the "disaster relief is immoral" |
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发帖数: 162 | 11 Why is a war, like the one in Iraq, immoral, SERIOUSLY?
If the left says “Innocent people got killed”. Well, I would argue that
more innocent would have been killed by the dictator without the war? The
proof? Ask Kurds or Syrians. The left also says “The oil companies got
enriched by promoting the war”. I would argue that securing the oil supply
is humanitarian because hundreds of millions of families in the US and
around the world depend on a low oil price to have jobs that pay to feed
their ch... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 162 | 12 The "immoral" argument is a typical "strawman argument".
What Romney said was borrowing money we do not own and can not pay back is
immoral.
He also said it should be the state taking the lead in disaster relief but
not Fed, as Fed is inefficient in doing things.
Your title is a Frankenstein statement using Romney's sound bits.
In time for Halloween, huh? |
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t***h
发帖数: 40 | 13 IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
)
In re Joshua Tin )
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t***h
发帖数: 40 | 14 这就是美国的司法： 腐败至及：
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
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In re Joshua Tin )
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t***h
发帖数: 40 | 15 请教这是什麽美国政府？？？？
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
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In re Joshua Tin )
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 16 Richard Cohen Explains Conservatives
By Dennis Prager
January 8, 2013 12:00 A.M.
On the last day of 2012, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen
inadvertently clarified two huge matters regarding the Left.
The first was the ignorance about conservatives and conservatism that
permeates the Left. The second was the primary reason decent people identify
with the Left: the effective caricaturing and demonizing of the Right. Were
it not for caricature and demonization, most otherwise intelligent and... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 17 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: benja (benja), 信区: Military
标 题: 搞不好 trump 会因为这次大嘴事件走的更远？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 8 18:07:16 2016, 美东)
摘录某基督教家庭的一位家长的facebook 状态：
“
With Trump elected, we will have an immoral image of a president. But we can
still teach our children about sins, bible standards, and we can teach them
to pray for the president so that he may repent. Although it's up to God.
On the other hand, with Clinton elected, we will have a so called better
presidential image. But we will have... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******t
发帖数: 169 | 18 摘录某基督教家庭的一位家长的facebook 状态：
“
With Trump elected, we will have an immoral image of a president. But we can
still teach our children about sins, bible standards, and we can teach them
to pray for the president so that he may repent. Although it's up to God.&#
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On the other hand, with Clinton elected, we will have a so called better&#
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presidential image. But we will have immoral values rooted in people's
hearts through the judicial system. It will make it much more difficult to&#
160... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******t
发帖数: 169 | 19 鎽樺綍鏌愬熀鐫ｆ暀瀹跺涵鐨勪竴浣嶅闀跨殑facebook 鐘舵锛br />
鈥br />
With Trump
elected, we will have an immoral image of a president. But we can still
teach our children about sins, bible standards, and we can teach them to
pray for the president so that he may repent. Although it's up to God.聽
On the other hand, with Clinton elected, we will have a so called better聽
presidential image. But we will have immoral values rooted in people's聽
hearts through the judicial system. It will make it much more difficult to聽
disce... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******t
发帖数: 169 | 20 鎽樺綍鏌愬熀鐫ｆ暀瀹跺涵鐨勪竴浣嶅闀跨殑facebook 鐘舵锛br />
鈥br />
With Trump
elected, we will have an immoral image of a president. But we can still
teach our children about sins, bible standards, and we can teach them to
pray for the president so that he may repent. Although it's up to God.聽
On the other hand, with Clinton elected, we will have a so called better聽
presidential image. But we will have immoral values rooted in people's聽
hearts through the judicial system. It will make it much more difficult to聽
disce... 阅读全帖 |
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j****3
发帖数: 2836 | 21 我家里没有。看你这么费尽心机的要把immoral Chinese women和所有Chinese Women划
等号，我只能推测你家里至少有一个两个immoral women了。 |
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t***h
发帖数: 40 | 22 IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
)
In re Joshua Tin )
)
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w***1
发帖数: 9 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: yecao (野草), 信区: Military
标 题: 看一看美国的司法腐败， 法官是怎样把一个无故孩子从妈妈身
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 23 20:28:00 2012, 美东)
这是真人真事， 请大家舆论支持。
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
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B*****I
发帖数: 1378 | 24 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
tshch (大丈夫) 于 (Mon Nov 19 03:35:51 2012, 美东) 提到:
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
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In re Joshua Tin )
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y***o
发帖数: 145 | 25 请看这法律问件， 美国的法官是怎样腐败， 把孩子从妈妈身边强走的。请舆论只持。
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELATE DISTRICT
DIVISION TWO
Wan (aka Winnie) Tin ) Case #: B222712
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, ) (Sup. Ct. No. CK71139)
v. )
Los Angeles County Superior Court )
)
In re Joshua Tin )
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u**h
发帖数: 509 | 26 http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/dec/09/angelina-jolies-unb
Angelina Jolie's Unbroken is racist, say Japanese nationalists
Jolie’s Oscar contender labelled ‘immoral’ by Society for the
Dissemination of Historical Fact, which objects to portrayal of cruel
Japanese guards in prisoner-of-war camps and calls for film to be banned
from Japan
First-look review: Unbroken
Miyavi, the star of Unbroken, at the film's New York premiere.
Miyavi, who plays Mutsuhiro Watanabe in Unbroken, at the film’... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9426 | 28 not laocheng!
I posted this since during that time, the top 10 topics of smth always had
those kind of immoral affairs...
very disgusting...
while in the US, I notice that the immorality is much less. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 29 Rounders Script
[Man Narrating] Listen, here's the thing.
If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the
table,
then you are the sucker.
Guys around here'll tell ya... you play for a living.
It's like any other job. You don't gamble. You grind it out.
Your goal is to win one big bet an hour, that's it.
Get your money in when you have the best of it, and protect it
when you don't.
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
firekimmel (Fire Kimmel) 于 (Mon Oct 28 00:37:26 2013, 美东) 提到:
ABC不用理会普通观众，但无法将联邦政府调查员拒之门外。现在的电视节目大多是有
剧本的，Federal Communications Commission (FCC)有必要调查 Kill Everyone In
China 这句台词的用意。大多数人认为这句话有严重的种族歧视 (racial
discrimination) 及煽动性。
FCC在接到观众投诉后会进行调查，比如 2004年的 Janet Jackson Wardrobe
Malfunction 导致了50万件投诉。如果调查结果认为违规，FCC会处以罚款。
请到以下网站投诉：
http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
-->Broadcast (TV and Radio), Cable, and Satellite
-->Unauthorized, unfair, biased, illegal b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11198 | 31 The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖 |
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s********i
发帖数: 891 | 32 基督教也不敢说替代旧约吧，毕竟上帝基本都在旧约里面。
不过话说回来，基督教也和共产党一样，与时俱进。资本家能否入党，教徒能否入党，
可以随时变通的。当然这讨论有点过于政治了。
比如新约直接说了，不能离婚，耶稣直接说：I tell you that anyone who divorces
his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits
adultery
但是现在的基督徒，干脆把最重要的马太福音视而不见了。原教旨的基督徒肯定不会这
么干。
Matthew 19 马太福音
3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a
man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘
made them male and... 阅读全帖 |
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 33 For those who say it's not immoral to leave, have they forgotten their vows? If you plan to leave in such a situation, customize you vows so that there's no mentioning of such things like "in sickness and in health". Lying is immoral. |
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发帖数: 25615 | 34 No victim 是我提出的, 我現在回看, 好像後來有點被誤解,
我的意思是說 No victim 一定不會是 immoral, 可能是
moral 也可能是 amoral。不是說 no victim 就一定是 moral的。
也不是說 有victim 就一定是 immoral。
htscorpion 看來學養深厚， Rawls 的正義論我很久以前翻閱過,
現在忘了差不多了。 |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 35 多谢评论，你有很多精彩的观点。
你说得对，如果是学术讨论的话，当然是要先define terms, 然后做literature
review，看看哲学家们都说过些什么。不过我们的讨论没那么学术，所以大家都是各抒己见。你说大部分问题前人都讨论过，可能是吧，不过我们这次讨论的特点是：1）是由Sam Harris那个“科学与道德”的talk开始的；2）慢慢自然过渡到了我们这个时空特有的一些问题，比如一夜情、换偶之类的。我个人对讨论的结果感到很满意，尤其是两条衡量原则，也许不够严密，但都是我们自己想出来的，都是original thoughts.
No victim的问题一般都是amoral，这个你说得也对。所以如果No victim这一条不满足，其实就不用讨论moral/immoral了（我说的是同时满足两条才算“不道德”）。你看到的很多本来是amoral、但大家还在讨论moral/immoral的例子，其实是大家在玩啦~~~~~~网络上的讨论原本如此，讲着讲着楼就歪了。
道德的) 和 amoral(无关道德的). 上面有些例子, 其实是无关道德的东西.
考虑. 如果你想定义道德, 一般 |
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e*****n
发帖数: 3129 | 36 嗯
如果啥讨论前都要看看这个家那个家说过些啥
就不用讨论啦
original thinking, 所以大家都是各抒己见。你说大部分问题前人都讨论过，可能是
吧，不过我们这次讨论的特点是：1）是由Sam Harris那个“科学与道德”的talk开始
的；2）慢慢自然过渡到了我们这个时空特有的一些问题，比如一夜情、换偶之类的。
足，其实就不用讨论moral/immoral了（我说的是同时满足两条才算“不道德”）。你
看到的很多本来是amoral、但大家还在讨论moral/immoral的例子，其实是大家在玩啦~
~~~~~网络上的讨论原本如此，讲着讲着楼就歪了。 |
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G****e
发帖数: 11198 | 37 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 38 Perhaps Calvin thought he was God's instrument to force Irresistible Grace (
a key doctrine in Calvinism) upon the citizens of Geneva, Switzerland, even
upon those who proved their unworthiness by resisting to the death. He unque
stionably did his best to be irresistible in imposing "righteousness," but w
hat he imposed and the manner in which he imposed it was far from grace and
the teachings and example of Christ.
Many of those who profess a "Reformed" faith today, especially those known a
s R... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 642 | 39 Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a
person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old
and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages,
and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat
them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of
slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 40 NET Bible上有一些解释。似乎是说上帝通过先知Noah，诅咒了迦南后代的恶。也就是
上帝已经知道迦南继承了Ham的罪。
而且说Ham所谓的see one's nakedness也许是指性行为。不过，即使是看到人的裸体也
是一种不好的事，而且似乎有可能Ham在想他的弟兄说明的时候，是有些幸灾乐祸的。
显然这段圣经没有提供足够的细节来解决这些疑问。人们只能猜测。
https://net.bible.org/#!bible/Genesis+9:18
9:18-24Evidently Noah became so drunk that he took off all his clothes and
then passed out naked in his tent. There is no explicit indication that Ham
disrobed his father or committed some homosexual act.[348] However, because
the expression “to see one’s nakedness” is som... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 41 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
人犯罪，不是上帝所希望的。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rat... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 42 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 43 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 44 数据网上很多，自己找呗, 至于希特勒是基督徒的证据就更多了，给大师摘几段他自己
的话，请大师自己慢慢欣赏， 我奏先不奉陪了
“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]
“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable fina... 阅读全帖 |
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X*t
发帖数: 1746 | 45 Slavery in the Bible
Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things
a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the
Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many
passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you
can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of
slavery by saying that these slaves were actuall... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 46 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are
outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do no... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 47 你虽然举出了圣经，可是把犯罪当成了圣灵的果子。完全是自己跟自己矛盾。
信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:1... 阅读全帖 |
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e******t
发帖数: 35 | 48 美忠同学 seems like an elite. Had he have political skills to make allies
instead of enemies, he would make differences to some students.
Currently I am reading a book “Moral Man and Immoral Society” by Reinhold
Niebuhr. It discusses the inevitability of social conflict, the brutal
behavior of human collectives of every sort, and ultimately, how individual
morality can overcome social immorality.
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R***r
发帖数: 3519 | 49 毛 is so evil, immoral !!! |
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