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l*****y
发帖数: 9433
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问个问题,是不是孔庄墨的基础思想不冲突, 而只是发挥点不同?
和基督教的拜神思想倒是很冲突, 个人感觉

,
w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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是JD教的"鸡棚理论"排它, 非别人要跟它冲突.
儒墨之间有同有异, 求同存异, 在中国文化中互相补充. JD社会是没有这些的. 你看草
鞋子的"道在JD"就知道.
儒道墨的出发点不同. 儒是从上层人物的观点来处理政治. 从墨的多是下层人民, 所以"兴天下之利". 道是个人主义者, 从个人的观点看世界. 所以他们能互补.
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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这里来的都是非常active的基督徒,生活中很多是礼拜日基督徒,等他们了解多了传统
文化,应
有希望融合在中国文化中
w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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E兄, 你注意到这点没有, 为啥我周围那么多西人JDT跟我认识的多数国人JDT在人身观
和信仰上那么不一样呢?
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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“魔鬼抄后路”了,呵呵,我有个印度同事,看上去很印度教,严格吃素,一次长谈中,他谈了
对印度教的看法,他说古时候的人受教育的少,很多道理用宗教便于传递,比如这个节日要晒
霉,表面上说和某个神有关,实际是就是要求人在这季节晒霉而已,我看他吃素也是打小习惯了
任何宗教式的信仰都是打造好的帮人到达心灵彼岸的渡船,达到心灵的平和后,渡船的作用就消
弭了,所以各个宗教下,修为高的人士都大体差不多
若是把渡船的作用夸大,当偶像来拜,甚至强拉别人也上自己的船,这样的人一辈子呆在渡船
上,是到不了彼岸的
w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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到了彼岸的回头一看, 不同信仰只是量子态的不同表象而已.

中,他谈了
节日要晒
打小习惯了
的作用就消
呆在渡船
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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对的,不过bdbd说的对,知道空是没用的,要去证这个空
在生活实践中,我们要不断提高对世界的认识
w****r
发帖数: 17566
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照你这么说,都是量子态,那彼岸也是个空
渡个什么渡,求个什么求,还
o**1
发帖数: 6383
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空不是啥都没有的意思。
佛教也不讲去求。
基督教徒求永生,求这么求那个。在佛教来看是 有求皆苦
w****r
发帖数: 17566
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万一兄执着之心蛮大的,呵呵
o**1
发帖数: 6383
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恩,所以苦嘛。
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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所以修的人和不修的人是无法讲清楚的,我也不修,就耍嘴皮子
我尽量在修,我每篇文章的写作前后,都会在前后几天里努力去实践一下
一个道理,听到了不是自己的,只有去做到才是自己的
万事皆空,有万事皆空的活法,这就是修,是证
你那天堂的永生状态和涅磐一样是说不清的,唯有在今生好好的生活
其实需要信仰的人,都是容易跌倒的人,资质好的人,是不需要修,不需要证的
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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我真苦啊,发誓周中不来,还是来了
o**1
发帖数: 6383
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呵呵,俺是上班不忙,下班忙。
l*****d
发帖数: 754
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现在你再看看罗马书7章18节
立志为善由得我,只是行出来由不得我。
是不是有些道理了?
o**1
发帖数: 6383
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要说圣经一点道理没有,那也不可能。
另外某个东西有没有道理,人和人理解也不一样,有人觉得没有道理的,比如杀婴儿,
有很多人也会觉得有道理的。
一样米养百样人。
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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呵呵,不来这里,其实很简单,就是挂念着,怕战友的好帖没人顶了
按你们解释就极端了点,若按金刚经就是“无所住而生其心”,我生了挂念,就软弱了,无欲则

也挺复杂的,虽然说我有挂念心,工作中的无聊也是促使我来的动因,说这是罪又极端了点,还
是“无所住而生其心”,我只考虑自己肉体思想的快乐,没有去多想老板和家人
最后就是“要带着信心吃”,灌了就灌了,马上就放下,不要老是想这是罪啊,我怎么又破戒
了,甚至要去向神忏悔啊
佛家是要人“断念”,活在当下,做了错事(包括好事)立刻放下,继续去行该行的事
反正道理一堆,中庸点好
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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春节晚会姜昆的相声里说:现在是动物的种类在一天天减少,人的种类在一天天增加。林子大
了,什么思想方式都有
以前读过一个论文,讲为什么没有神创的世界会有物种的多样性,作者说恰恰是没有神在控制,
所以就什么鸟都生出来了,因为没有一个至高的控制者,大家只有相互区别,才有存在的意义
就如现在的网络时代,做好事出不了名,搞点芙蓉式的恶心才能出名
E*****m
发帖数: 25615
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。林子大
較真一下, 這兩個種類不是同樣的意思。
神在控制,
在的意义
同理可以解釋基督教幾萬個派別。
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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呵呵,知道,就是觉的姜昆讲的挺有意思
世界是很奇妙,背后的道太难理解了,我读时间简史和果壳中的世界,比较喜欢无穷宇
宙论,我
们只是幸运出生在可以孕育生命的宇宙中
E*****m
发帖数: 25615
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這個"幸運" 是沒有對照組的, 不幸運的都不存在。
這種 wake up in the universe 的感覺確實是無與倫比。
w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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你看你看, 我就忘了说一句非物理生跳过. 结果一帮量子态是啥都不明白的就吵得不可
开交了.
i*****d
发帖数: 1179
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,
咳, 看来看去,都是借别人的水来灌呢。 你什么时侯会还?
i*****d
发帖数: 1179
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基督教就不是中庸之道。
兄台还是明眼人, 一看就穿, 而且是对的。
i*****d
发帖数: 1179
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以"兴天下之利". 道是个人主义者, 从个人的观点看世界. 所以他们能互补.
高台还真是 能打错字。下次要小心。
高台的眼光也是税利。看到先辈们说的都是人为人的道理。了不起。但是你误解了基督
教。 基督教不仅是为人的真理,更是救人的真理。 试问,一个贫民快乐一天和一个王
子快乐一天, 在神看来,没有什么区别。 但是,从人看, 你会同意没有区别吗?
s******g
发帖数: 5074
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晚了一步,这个是原文吗?
E*****l
发帖数: 2662
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儒家是中庸的,是和为贵的,这两点基督教都没有
当然了,传道人会说基督教是和平的,充满了爱的
w******d
发帖数: 1301
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圣经从创世纪到启示录,看似东拉西扯,其实主题都是上帝的救赎--耶稣基督!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-926yhq_UGA
Michael W. Smith Gloria Lyrics:
Angels we have heard on high
Sweetly singing o'er the pains
And the mountains in reply
Echo back their joyous strains
Gloria O Gloria in excelsis Deo
Come to Bethlehem and see
[ Find more Lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.org/8iEp ]
(Gloria O sing Gloria)
Him whose birth the angels sing
(Gloria O sing Gloria)
Come adore on bended knee
Christ the Lord the newborn King
Gloria O Gloria in excels... 阅读全帖
E*****m
发帖数: 25615
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Tussling Over Jesus-- NYT (墮胎爭議)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/27/opinion/27kristof.html
January 26, 2011
Tussling Over Jesus
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
¶ The National Catholic Reporter newspaper put it best: “Just days
before Christians celebrated Christmas, Jesus got evicted.”
¶ Yet the person giving Jesus the heave-ho in this case was not a
Bethlehem innkeeper. Nor was it an overzealous mayor angering conservatives
by pulling down Christmas decorations. Rather, it was a prominent bishop,
Thomas Olmsted, stripping St. ... 阅读全帖
p**5
发帖数: 2544
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 《heaven is for real》
很好的一本书。目前没有中文版本,很可惜,否则可以给国内很多人看。有没有人,英
语比较好的,想翻译成中文的?
可以大家分一分,没人翻译一章。太想和国内朋友分享了。
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/02/book-review-heave
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWteNd_NxvQ
Calvinism is a false doctrine!? They teach limited atonement and believe tha
t only certain people go to heaven! Jesus Christ died for the WORLD'S sins!
Not just the elect! He died so that we have the opportunity to get into heav
en and be and the right hand of God!
PecanSandy309
f********7
发帖数: 556
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Thanks for sharing

tha
!
heav
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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if you still sin after "born again", how can you not sin in the heaven?
If God cannot eliminate our sin on this earth, how can He clean our sin natu
re in heave?
sin no more, my bor
and glorify the God

爱慕
C****i
发帖数: 1776
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 威斯敏斯德信条 第一章 论圣经
Chapter 1
Of the Holy Scripture
1. Although the light of nature, and the works of creation and
providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of
God, as to leave men unexcusable;
a
yet are they not sufficient to give
that knowledge of God, and of his will, which is necessary unto
salvation.
b
Therefore it pleased the Lord, at sundry times, and in
divers manners, to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his
a. Rom. 2:14–15. For when the Gentiles, which have not the la... 阅读全帖
C****i
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CHAPTER II
Of God, and of the Holy Trinity
I. There is but one only,[25] living, and true God,[26] who is infinite in b
eing and perfection,[27] a most pure spirit,[28] invisible,[29] without body
, parts,[30] or passions;[31] immutable,[32] immense,[33] eternal,[34] incom
prehensible,[35] almighty,[36] most wise,[37] most holy,[38] most free,[39]
most absolute;[40] working all things according to the counsel of his own im
mutable and most righteous will,[41] for his own glory;[42] most loving,[... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Murder of Michael Servetus
http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/servetus.html
Michael Servetus was a Christian living in the 1500's who incurred the wrath
of John Calvin and was murdered by him and his cronies for illegitimate rea
sons. He was accused of heresy and railroaded through a mock trial and put t
o death being burned alive at the stake. Yet such an atrocity was praised by
even well-known Calvinists as Bullinger and others for generations.
A couple of quotes from John Calvin himself:
7 years before the incident:
"If he [S... 阅读全帖
C****i
发帖数: 1776
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 第八章 论中保基督
CHAPTER VIII
Of Christ the Mediator
I. It pleased God, in his eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jes
us, his only begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man,[162] the
Prophet,[163] Priest,[164] and King,[165] the Head and Savior of his church,
[166] the Heir of all things,[167] and Judge of the world:[168] unto whom he
did from all eternity give a people, to be his seed,[169] and to be by him
in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.[170]
II. The Son o... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 八月查经:申命记4(下)
no bible backing
bible only says Jesus Christ never sin. We can speculate that Jesus had no
sin nature as we have. But this problem is about wheter human being must
have the sin nature. Can a dead baby go to heave directly?
C****i
发帖数: 1776
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CHAPTER XXII
Of Lawful Oaths and Vows
I. A lawful oath is a part of religious worship,[443] wherein, upon just occ
asion, the person swearing solemnly calleth God to witness what he asserteth
, or promiseth, and to judge him according to the truth or falsehood of what
he sweareth.[444]
II. The name of God only is that by which men ought to swear, and therein it
is to be used with all holy fear and reverence.[445] Therefore, to swear va
inly, or rashly, by that glorious and dreadful Name; or, to ... 阅读全帖
C****i
发帖数: 1776
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 23章 论国家官员
CHAPTER XXIII
Of the Civil Magistrate
I. God, the supreme Lord and King of all the world, hath ordained civil magi
strates, to be, under him, over the people, for his own glory, and the publi
c good: and, to this end, hath armed them with the power of the sword, for t
he defense and encouragement of them that are good, and for the punishment o
f evildoers.[459]
II. It is lawful for Christians to accept and execute the office of a magist
rate, when called thereunto:[460] in the managing whereof, ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
发帖数: 5754
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于是否赞美杀婴屠城
it seems qilikacha1 believes in God the creator of Heave and Earth.

them
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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Faced With A Choice
Calvinists object to the assertion that the natural man is "not so totally d
epraved that he can't hear God's voice and come to Christ." They respond, "T
otally depraved is totally depraved. It makes no sense to say man isn't so t
otally depraved." Not only is Total Depravity not a biblical concept, but as
the quote above shows, Calvin himself said that man is not so totally depra
ved that he cannot receive much truth from God; he just doesn't get enough t
ruth because God wi... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 3:9-20
3:15-17 Paul moves on in vv. 15-17 with a citation dependent for the most pa
rt on Isaiah 59:7-8 (cf. Prov 1:16). He leaves the sins involving the mouth
and moves forward to enumerate sins involving the imagery of feet. People ar
e swift (ojxei'", oxeis) to shed blood, to commit acts of violence against o
thers. Indeed, ruin and misery are in their paths (oJdoi'", hodois); the lan
dscape behind them is littered with the remains of their violence. Everywher
e they go people suffer. They have not ... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 3:9-20
3:15-17 Paul moves on in vv. 15-17 with a citation dependent for the most pa
rt on Isaiah 59:7-8 (cf. Prov 1:16). He leaves the sins involving the mouth
and moves forward to enumerate sins involving the imagery of feet. People ar
e swift (ojxei'", oxeis) to shed blood, to commit acts of violence against o
thers. Indeed, ruin and misery are in their paths (oJdoi'", hodois); the lan
dscape behind them is littered with the remains of their violence. Everywher
e they go people suffer. They have not ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 诺贝尔奖得主比昂松的名言
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/37726/37726-h/37726-h.htm
IN GOD'S WAY
SCHOOL-DAYS
I.
In the melting snow on the hill-side by the sea, in the last rays of the
evening sun, stood a boy of fourteen, awestruck. He looked toward the west,
out across the sea; he looked toward the east, over town and shore and the
broad hills; in the background still higher peaks rose far away in the clear
sky.
The storm had lasted a long time; it had been more terrible, too, than any
the old people could remember. In ... 阅读全帖
G*******s
发帖数: 4956
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Godwithus (神与我们同在), 信区: Belief
标 题: Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 18 21:54:10 2011, 美东)
Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
by Matt Slick
There's a lot of discussion about Mormon beliefs. So, in order to make this
easy, I will list out what Mormonism actually teaches. These are not sensati
onalized, and inaccurate statements.
Following documentation from Mormon authors. Finally, please understand tha
t the Mormon Church uses Christian t... 阅读全帖
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 罪的本质是上帝?-看看jym解经
so sin will still exist in heave?
m****a
发帖数: 9485
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 复活的希望
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFTqpptLLwg
Christ the Lord is ris'n today, Alleluia!
Sons of men and angels say, Alleluia!
Raise your joys and triumphs high, Alleluia!
Sing, ye heav'ns, and earth reply, Alleluia!
Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia!
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia!
Death in vain forbids Him rise, Alleluia!
Christ has opened Paradise, Alleluia!
Lives again our glorious King, Alleluia!
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia!
Dying once He all doth save, Alleluia... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【活动】《我知道我的救赎主活着》
A Collection of Sacred Hymns for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints
1. I know that my Redeemer lives;
When comfort this sweet sentence gives!
He lives, He lives, who once was dead;
He lives, my ever living head.
He lives to bless me with His love,
He lives to plead for me above,
He lives my hungry soul to feed,
He lives to bless in time of need.
2. He lives to grant me rich supply,
He lives to guide me with His eye,
He lives to comfort me when faint,
He lives to hear my soul’s compl... 阅读全帖
D*****r
发帖数: 6791
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mark Twain:Letters from the earth
Letters from the Earth
When the Creator had finished thinking, He said, "I have thought. Behold!"
He lifted His hand, and from it burst a fountain-spray of fire, a million
stupendous suns, which clove the blackness and soared, away and away and
away, diminishing in magnitude and intensity as they pierced the far
frontiers of Space, until at last they were but as diamond nailheads
sparkling under the domed vast roof of the universe.
At the end of an hour the Grand Council was dismissed.
They left... 阅读全帖
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