l****a 发帖数: 272 | 1 幸亏坐东家防守的不是福奎特
昨天刚打的一副牌, 欢迎comments, 疏漏之处, 敬请指正.
EW vul, E dealer, 我坐南第2家开叫 15-17 1NT
A873
A76
A92
KJ7
PD 明显的迟疑以后, 摆上了5NT, 肯定是数了半天点,
我反过来数数, 这么叫, 她应该是大约20p, 邀请我17p 去7.
我16p, 去不去都可以, 7NT 可不是总有机会打的, 上吧.
舞台搭好了, 现在看三个人的表演了.
首攻C2
明手亮牌.
KJ5
J10
KQJ53
AQ6
A873
A76
A92
KJ7
pd 叫错了啊, 这样的牌, 远远不够叫5NT的, 现在不是谈这个的时候了,
看看7NT怎么打吧. 如果S 可以拿到4墩的话, 就mk了. 肯定是要飞SQ 的.所以,
T1, 明手出x, 手里CJ拿住.
T2, 出Sx, 西家S10. 感觉是SQ 飞中了, 现在有12墩了.
明手出SJ, 果然拿到了. 如果我没有S8, 那就简单了, 只能希望S是33,
直接拔就可以了. (可以结合一个机会不大的紧逼).
如果西家是Q10 双张, 可以飞东家的S9.
怎么打呢? 得... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 2 You can play east to hold all the HCPs.
win SK, play CA, and low C to C9, if east holds CKx, he would be thrown in
immediately, then he has to return D to have a chance to beat it. Suppose he
returns Dx, you cover west's DT or J, cash clubs and pay attention to east
pitches to end play east again. If east returns DT or DJ or even DK, you can
allow him to win and win D later.
If east holds CKxx, he has to return C back and you still can pay attention
to his
discard. He may hold 6-2-2-3, in that ... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********6 发帖数: 679 | 3 其实SEMENTA的桥路楼上几位都已指出,就是(借用arrows言简意赅的):将吃,草花J
飞机,准备3飞草花。打左手1张将牌。
将吃D; CJ,3,7,东Q; 东H7出手,北Q;SA;H9将吃D;C8,4,6飞!漂亮做成。
东西牌是:
东: QJ975 7 KJT98 Q5
西: T T84 AQ632 T943 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 4 This is an interesting hand. Justin Lall played 4S, holding
J93
K8653
Q2
J86
dummy is:
A85
AQT94
J84
AQ
The lead was low S to SK and club switch.
The best line would be: draw HA, HQ, CA, HT to HK, ruff CJ with H9, then
play H4 and over take with H5, and the last H Here comes a very interesting
end game:
both defenders had to keep two spades. So they have to let go D.
Now you can play a D to throw them in and enjoy two spades in the end.
In reality, he didn't find this line and went down 1. |
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o*******n 发帖数: 6500 | 5 AT976
AKJ82
A96
QJ43 K852
T9 7643
QT2 K4
K963 QT7
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Q5
J8753
AJ8542
LHO CHO RHO SHO
HT HA H3 H5
DT D9 D4 D5
S3 S9 SK C4
S2 SQ SA C2
H9 H2 H4 HQ
D2 DA DK D7
C3 HK H6 C5
C6 HJ H7 C8
CT H8 C9 CJ
DQ D6 C7 D8
S4 |
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j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 6 如果认为西持H,东持S,这个打法貌似是正确的。
首攻H9,也有可能是H长套没大牌,no? |
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l****a 发帖数: 272 | 7 庄家容易被明手的 H8 迷惑, 舍不得垫.
所有的紧逼问题, 其实都可以归结为读牌问题.
这里, 就是对 H9 还有SK 的解读.
实战中庄家的打法, 可能是希望简单的高花紧逼, 对他那个级别的牌手来说,
应该算不小的失误了. |
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j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 8 如果认为西持H,东持S,这个打法貌似是正确的。
首攻H9,也有可能是H长套没大牌,no? |
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l****a 发帖数: 272 | 9 庄家容易被明手的 H8 迷惑, 舍不得垫.
所有的紧逼问题, 其实都可以归结为读牌问题.
这里, 就是对 H9 还有SK 的解读.
实战中庄家的打法, 可能是希望简单的高花紧逼, 对他那个级别的牌手来说,
应该算不小的失误了. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 10 整副牌如下:
S: A J 7 6
H: A 8 7 6
D: J 6
C: A 8 7
S: Q 8 3 2 S: K 9 5 4
H: 2 H: 9 5 3
D: K Q 1 0 9 3 D: 5
C: K Q J C: 9 5 4 3 2
S: 10
H: K Q J 10 4
D: A 8 7 6 2
C: 10 6
这副牌出现在最近一次荷兰与瑞典女队的交锋中。两桌都叫到4H,都是西家首攻,前三
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 11 IMP双有,你坐西发牌,手持:AQT93 / 95 / A72 / QJ5
叫牌过程:
W N E S
1S P P 1NT
P 2NT P 3NT
AP
你试着首攻H9,明手摊牌:
J 7 6 2
A Q 7
K J 4
9 8 4
A Q 10 9 3
9 5
A 7 2
Q J 5
明手HA赢进首攻,同伴跟H8,庄家H4。庄家从明手出DK,然后DJ,你忍让这两轮,第三
轮庄家出小方块到手里D10,你DA吃进,同伴三轮方块均有跟牌。你继续出H5,明手盖
H7,同伴HK,庄家跟H10。同伴换攻S5,庄家出SK,你准备怎样防守? |
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v**********e 发帖数: 1295 | 12 Have to guess...
I prefer 4H because:
1) partner didn't X
2) I have H9
The worst hand pd have may be 4126 |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 13 IMP双无,左手方开叫1NT(12-14),右手方直接加叫到 3NT 结束叫牌。
你坐东家,同伴首攻H4(长四),明手和你的牌分别如下:
(北)
K Q 3
J 9 5
A Q J 8 3
Q J
(东)
8 6 5
10 8 2
10 6 4
A 8 6 2
第一墩,同伴H4,明手出H9,你H10,庄家手里跟H6。接下去你出哪张牌? |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 14 貌似写得蛮明白吧:“西家第二轮跟出C3,第三轮H9将吃”。。。你可以假设西家没有
revoke. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 15 貌似写得蛮明白吧:“西家第二轮跟出C3,第三轮H9将吃”。。。你可以假设西家没有
revoke. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 16 IMP双有,你坐东持牌:AKJT9, A872, 943, 6
南家发牌并开叫,过程如下:
S W N E
1H P 2D 2S
3C P 3H P
4H AP
同伴首攻S2,明手摊牌:
(N)
974
653
AKQJ5
94 (E)
AKJT9
A872
943
6
你出SK,SA,再第三张黑桃。庄家H9将吃,然后出HK,同伴跟H4。你准备如何继续防守
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 17 MP,无对有,你坐南持牌:
♠ A Q 8 5
♥ 7
♦ K 7 3 2
♣ K Q 8 5
你发牌且开叫,过程为:
S W N E
1D 1H 1NT 2H
P P X AP
同伴首攻H3,明手摊下:
♠ J 10 6 4 2
♥ A 9 8
♦ 10 8
♣ J 7 2
庄家首墩明手H8赢得(暗手H2),明手出D10,你和庄家都放小,同伴出DJ赢到,续出
H4。庄家明手H9拿到(暗手H6,你垫一张梅花),出D8,你和庄家再放小,同伴DA赢。
继续H5赶出明手HA,庄家跟H10(你垫黑桃)。庄家现在从明手出小梅花,你跳CQ,庄
家CA,然后再出小梅花到明手CJ,你CK赢。同伴两轮梅花均跟小。现在你怎样防守? |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 18 这副牌是BBO上的,只是作个提醒,一般情况下还是应该相信同伴。虽然高水平比赛中
有时候牌手会作出一些特别的选择,但那是有想法的,是整体判断的结果,并不是对同
伴的叫牌视而不见。如果只是去试图模仿人家一些皮毛,难免就东施效颦了。
实际持牌,我(W)手里是 A / 84 / J7632 / K8652
明手(S):Q82 / A932 / K85 / 974
庄家(N):K653 / KQ5 / AQ94 / AT
北家开叫1NT之后,南家可以考虑直接2NT邀叫。2C之后,我冒险加了个倍。虽然我的梅
花不是很好,但我更不愿意看到同伴首攻高花。
同伴手持 JT974 / JT76 / T / QJ3,仍然决定首攻小红心,明手H9得墩。之后庄家打
得不是很好,只取得10墩牌。梅花首攻的话必宕。
这副牌看不出不攻梅花的理由:梅花结构QJx在同伴加倍后非常好,从叫牌看明手则多
半四张红心。即便没有对梅花的加倍,CQ也值得考虑。 |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 20 但你想一下,如果是要铲H9的话,那么左手方红心就是9x,右手方是KJx,你有必要出
10吗?
再想想,这个红心结构,最好怎样打? |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 21 没有。我只是分析这个可能性。
实战中我CJ拿到之后飞黑桃,右手出SK,回方块,我出DA,飞红心(西家H9,明手H10
,东家垫去D10),兑现SA,然后CA回手,出SJ。局面如下: |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 24 the most straight forward play is to ruff D, draw trumps then play H to J. H
has to be 3-3 if opps play UDCA( of course, some times opps may lead A from
Axxx and his partner happens to hold KT, which is very very rare.)
LHO has to duck HK, otherwise, you win 2H, 1D, 7 trumps.
so you win HJ, cash DA and ruff D again. now you can play H again to end
play LHO.
This line requires LHO to hold 2-3-3-5 or 3-3-3-4 shape to work. It also
works when LHO holds doubleton D, and H9, so he can't pitch HK to u... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 25 if LHO holds 1-3-2-7 or 1-3-3-6 shape, you are likely to go down if he holds
no H9. He can pitch HK on the second round of trumps.
the |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 26 The actual hand:
76
J852
AT542
94
J3 85
AK9 T64
87 KQJ963
AJT732 Q5
AKQT942
Q73
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K86
At one table, the declarer won second trick with DA, ruffed a D, two rounds
of trumps, and then H. At another table, the declarer ruffed D at second
trick. But he did not draw trumps at all (I don't understand why), instead
played a heart immediately. West won HK, and exited with with H9. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 27 H9 doesn't make sense anyway, unless declarer has void in one of the black
suit. Maybe declarer is 2-5-6-0 shape? Since a club has been pitched,
returning a club will be safe regardless. Partner can win CK and play a
diamond back. |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 28 Sorry for tricking you :) I was hoping you ask what dummy discards, but you
didn't.
Actually, dummy discards S2, and partner follows H2.
The declarer is not a world star, but is a very reasonable player. So you
can expect H9 is not a novice play.
After you win HJ, you are not going to play H, I believe. S, D, or C? It
seems you like D better? |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 29 That was actually the play at the table. I think it is a normal play.
Declarer plays SQ, partner wins SK, and declarer discards a D. Do you have
better idea for declarer's hand?
Yes, 0571 with stiff CK.
Partner could return a C, but that seems too hard for him. He returned a D,
and declarer had to give up a club, but still scored 10 tricks.
How do you think about the H9 play now? :) |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 30 叫牌有些奇怪。右手拿了四张方块三张梅花却开了1C,而左手没有四张黑桃则叫了X。
首攻来说,小红心是比较正常的。HQ也可以考虑,以防明手拿着Jx,庄家Kxx,同伴无
进张。但如果同伴Jx,庄家Kxxx,就需要攻小红心。关键是没有H9,甚至没有H8。如果
是AQT9x的结构,在这样的叫牌序列下攻HQ是不错的选择。
结果发生什么事了? |
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g****o 发帖数: 1284 | 31 如果试图明手将吃两次方块,就有一个回手清将的问题,可能会被超将吃,比如西可能
是2-4-5-2牌型。我可能会采取如下路线:
明手H9将吃续攻的方块,H10吊将,暗手跟小牌以防5-0分布。如果都有跟出,就用CA回
手清光将牌。然后CJ到CK,将吃一次草花。明手还有两个S进张以备C是4-2分布。只要C
不坏于4-2分布,王牌不坏于1-4分布这条路线一定成功。
如果H10吊将时发现是5-0分布,则只能用CA回手敲光王牌。然后先测试草花是否3-3分
布,不成的话最后还有飞黑桃的机会。 |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 32 两轮方块之后,从手里出HQ。有两个好处,一个是诱使左手上K,如果他扑了HK那么你
也不用垫SK了。更重要的是,这也是一种提前解封。左手如果出小,你仍打HA。以后再
出小红心到H9,明手总是可以再进手一次。 |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 33 If east follows H9 on first trump, trust it if he is novice, ignore it if he
is expert :)
both |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 34 Right. Without seeing HT, H9 may backfire. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 35 I assume you have unblocked H9. Now the contract is cold if you can see the
hands. Playing DA then low D will guarantee the contract when LHO has either
Kx, Jx, KJ in diamonds; if RHO starts with KJxx you will have to play a
diamond from dummy then low in your hand. Technically the two lines have
very similar chances.
You should probably ask about opp's agreement on Michaels. If they play "
split-range" then highly likely LHO has one diamond honor, so just play DA
then low D. |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 36 In that case, it is always down if RHO ducks the first heart (we are not
going to finesse with H9). Also, he may have the second trump to exit. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 37 To catch RHO Tx case, playing H9 will lose in this case. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 38 If you keep SA
1) you make the contract whenever LHO has HA
2) when RHO has HA, you make the contract when H are 3-3 or RHO has A8xx or
A10
The only time when playing SA at trick 1 gain, is when RHO has ATxx, AND you
decide to play H9 on second heart. Note that you will lose when RHO has
A8xx. You cannot cater for either ATxx or A8xx. |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 39 In that case, it is always down if RHO ducks the first heart (we are not
going to finesse with H9). Also, he may have the second trump to exit. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 40 To catch RHO Tx case, playing H9 will lose in this case. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 41 If you keep SA
1) you make the contract whenever LHO has HA
2) when RHO has HA, you make the contract when H are 3-3 or RHO has A8xx or
A10
The only time when playing SA at trick 1 gain, is when RHO has ATxx, AND you
decide to play H9 on second heart. Note that you will lose when RHO has
A8xx. You cannot cater for either ATxx or A8xx. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 42 你CA吃住第二轮梅花,兑现HA,左手跟出H10。从单套结构上,应该到明手出第二张红
心手里用H9偷,但你还要考虑整手牌的情况。这样打的危险在哪里? |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 43 我觉得不管梅花通不通,都应该先拔光将牌。你总是应该设法给对手压力,同时避免过
多暴露自己的牌型,没必要广而告之自己是5-5。
右手实际持牌为:Ax,Jx,KJxx,98xxx
对手防得不错,如果不是首攻和续攻王牌,你就可以简单吃一副梅花。或是对方在你打
梅花的时候不跳A,或是第三张黑桃上垫梅花,你也能轻松做成。这个牌为什么要先拔
将牌再打梅花呢?其实是个闲张的空间问题。你只要在C10之前先拔黑桃,明手就有闲
张可垫,形成:
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Q9
T
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-
3
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T4
而东家要保留两张梅花和DK,只能垫去HJ。于是你兑现C10,最后出红心明手H9飞过即
成。所以是个对右手的三门挤牌,其中一门(红心)挤的是护张。但如果先拔光梅花赢
张,则明手先受挤。 |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 44 Team, good opps, red vs white
LHO Pd RHO YOU
P P 1S X
P 2H P 2NT
P 3NT AP
97
7654
QJ2
K652
KQ8642
AT
KT
AQ9
Lead (4th) D5, J, 6, T. S7, and RHO wins with SA, while LHO discards C8.
H3 to LHO's K, and H9 to RHO's J and your A.
Your DK goes to LHO's DA, and RHO follows D8.
LHO returns CJ to you, while RHO follows C3. Now where is the 9th trick? |
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j******h 发帖数: 592 | 45 mace师傅说过的最让我难忘的话,是教我下了可数几盘之后,(顺便说一下,mace师傅总
是很忙,有时间和别人下也没心情教我的)突然说你真是很幸福呀。日本棋社,师傅只教
徒弟两盘棋,一盘拜师,一盘出师。像你这样的,早该逐出师们了。
兔子也很少跟我下。每一次都是我quit了一阵子,他就来勾我。用他的话说,很有牺牲精
神的。因为和我下,非常damage his skill。每一次,都是说半天,他才h9我。每一次她
都让我time lose。(其间要说n回我多末向bj) 每一次我拿cgoban一算,都还领先一些木
薯。每一次我跟他说,他就要说你又拿垃圾cgoban算啦?你作为low hand,挑战high
hand德evaluation,要是在日本,早有人打你耳光了。 |
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z**o 发帖数: 114 | 46 昨天很运气的赢了microbe,本来觉得下的还可以,下午看了大家的评论,觉得
下得太烂了.看棋的各个牛人呀.
microbe肯定比我强的,于是昨天下午第一次认真地打了microbe的谱,他执黑
几乎必下低中国流.于是我就决定下C4的小目了.
7:00到10:00打了3个小时的球,回来又困又饿. 赶紧洗澡吃点东西然后烧水泡
茶,我几乎每次认真下棋必定着凉,所以现在的习惯就是一但下紧棋就不断喝
热水. 不知道还有没有别的棋友也如此.
C4如愿阻止了低中国流. 到B R11感觉有点过分,就R13了. B S7以后,我没有
下S6,想保留个劫材,不过似乎大家都倾向于早下,怕被黑逆收了. R17太小,
明显D15大,大局观太差.之后定式得选择也有问题.实战的时候觉得一是厚势
不围空,二是不想把鸡蛋放到一个篮子里,就C13了,不过形势几乎不可收拾.
看来F16还是最佳选择呀.
M15恶手,如果J16,这棋玄了吧. W 当然K17打入,到98手(Q13)感觉黑贴目沉重.
不过大家都认为黑一直好.看来我的形势判断太不准了.和ff的棋也是形势判断
太差.
对H9还是E9的分歧,我也想了很久,不过觉得E9 |
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d***a 发帖数: 13752 | 47
黑c10靠,感觉上白是比较麻烦,不过黑也危险。这里要算清近半个棋盘的变化,俺的
水平真的不够,不是谦虚。
如果我走黑,考虑到黑领先,会如下图躲避一下。黑2是先手,再4位长出。白如果在
G10逃出F11一子,黑可以H9位罩住。接下来白B位不是先手,黑有D位和E位的先手利用
。白大概只有在C位挂角,局面就缓和下来了,对黑有利。 |
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f**l 发帖数: 2041 | 48 难怪你对jadefish这么留情, 原来是怕她梨花带雨.
我现在跟niuer他们学了点境界. 再h9 jadefish, 搞不动了. 很多毛招都使不出来.
我没小孩, 不知道啥感觉. 不过自己是小孩的时候, 下中国象棋. 输了就缠着再下,
不赢不睡觉. 最后大人只好让我赢一盘. 时间长了, 家里就没人下得过我了. 但
跟我的围棋一样, 没啥理论. 后来我去参加京华杯集训, 发现其他人都是有师傅的,
我在京华杯的对手是赵国荣的弟子, 虽然我也没怎么大落后, 但最后还是输得没脾气.
觉得就是发挥不出来, 没有毛的机会. 敌人根本就不冒险.
我下围棋, 也是野蛮地杀, 不看书学习, 所以至今还是个野人. |
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j******h 发帖数: 592 | 49 我要参加他家的party,不参加你们的下棋。
不好意思造成你误会。那天fool要指导我h9都被我严词拒绝了。平时都是我求他被他拒绝的:)
你有空考古,好好整理jhq吧。 |
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f**l 发帖数: 2041 | 50 我h9胜jadefish那是靠真本事. fish现在手巾论打往外送, 很不好应付.
要给fish做圈套, 你得让她觉得那是好手巾.
下让子棋很考验战斗力. 不过下多了, 平下的水平就下降了. |
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