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A***e
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来自主题: Poetry版 - Nineteen Poems (6)
I cross the river to pluck hibiscus,
In the orchid marsh, many scented plants.
I pluck, but whom sho9uld I give them to?
For my love resides in a distant land.
Turning my head, I look toward home,
Along that vast and endless road.
Our hearts are one, yet we dwell apart,
Worrying and grieving till we grow old.
(TR. DELL R. HALES)
C********g
发帖数: 9656
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来自主题: Poetry版 - 英诗散解——《希腊古瓮颂》
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=27005

·廖 康·
英国19世纪浪漫主义诗人济慈(John Keats,1795-1821)看着一个希腊石雕古瓮上的形
像情不自禁大发思古之幽情:你这秀丽的姑娘,雕在古瓮上。在静默之中保持完美,不
曾受到人世纷争的搅扰和岁月无情的摧残。穿越时空,形体依旧,仿佛在向我讲述你花
样年华的故事,比任何诗歌都更加美丽动听。环绕着你这美丽的姑娘,曾有多少神奇的
传说?在希腊昙邳或阿卡狄的溪谷里,有多少神和人曾经追求你的青睐?他们曾经怎样
疯狂地追求?吹着什么笛子?打着什么鼓?陶醉在什么样的狂喜之中?那是些什么神和
人呀?竟然都不值得你以身相许?
凝视着古瓮上欲吻未吻的一对青年男女,济慈感慨道:听见的乐声再美妙,也比不上没
听见的乐声。雕刻在树下的吹笛人,你尽情吹吧,我虽然听不见,但你无声的乐曲吹入
我的灵魂,永无终止。如同雕刻的树木一样,树叶永不凋零。大胆的恋人也是一样,你
已经接近这位美女,但却永远、永远也吻不上。可是不要悲哀,这样,她将永远美丽,
你将永远热恋如初!
由... 阅读全帖
S*********e
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来自主题: Poetry版 - 希腊古瓶 (诗歌翻译)
<题外话>
1) 约翰*济慈生于1795年。幼丧父母,由祖母抚养长大。他的弟弟汤姆1818年死于肺结核。济慈在照顾汤姆的过程中不幸被感染,两年后去世。死时年仅25岁。
2) 我第一次知道济慈是在进大学不久的一次诗歌社团活动。主持活动的师兄刚介绍完济慈的生平,下面立刻响起一个女生的轻呼:(这么年轻就死去)太可惜了。而我的第一反应是:济慈的祖母会非常、非常伤心吧。。。不知为什么,这个镜头一直在我的记忆里清晰地存在,而大学时代其他很多更重要的事情却慢慢淡去。
3) 济慈最著名的作品当然是<<夜莺颂>>。他本人学医。所有诗作几乎都是在去世前两年创作。下面翻译的<<希腊古瓶>>,直译的话是<<对一个希腊瓶子的颂歌>>,是济慈数首颂歌之一。我本人也是不久前才偶尔读到、认真欣赏。这是对一个希腊古瓶的怀古之作。古瓶上应该画着树叶、人物、村庄等等。
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[希腊古瓶]
原作:约翰*济慈
你这安静的、未被玷污的新娘!
你没有亲生父母 --
养父是永恒之沉默,而养母
是缓慢而坚定流逝的时光。
于是你脸上画的树木,
真实地低声地
把甜蜜委婉充满... 阅读全帖
L****o
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来自主题: Poetry版 - 《火星生活》 by Tracy Smith
2012年Tracy Smith以诗集《Life on Mars》(《火星生活》)获得美国普利策诗歌奖
,这本诗集“大胆、巧妙,将读者带上宇宙,并让他们真实感受到了快乐与苦痛。”
看到shot写的《慧星》、《宇宙长城》,想起了这个,贴几首里面的诗吧。
《The Weather in Space》
Is God being or pure force? The wind
Or what commands it? When our lives slow
And we can hold all that we love, it sprawls
In our laps like a gangly doll. When the storm
Kicks up and nothing is ours, we go chasing
After all we’re certain to lose, so alive—
Faces radiant with panic
《太空里的天气》
译/Lihebo
上帝是存在还是纯粹的力?风
还是驾驭它的东西?当我们的生活缓慢
并拥有所爱的一切,它四... 阅读全帖
S*******t
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Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on it... 阅读全帖
S*******t
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来自主题: Poetry版 - Interstellar 中的那首诗
电影本身不多说了,青菜萝卜各有所爱,拍的很认真,看出来也做了比较用心的研究来
再现黑洞,虫洞等,一些太空的场景拍的动人心魄。不过故事本身比较弱,人物基本上
都比较招人烦,我最厌烦的是电影歌颂父女之情,甚至可以穿越时空,可是拜托,男主
还有个儿子的吧,偏心偏到黑洞里去啦,那何必放这个酱油瓶在那里呢?当妈的表示不
能忍。
不过我要说的不是这个,是里面的诗。
Do not go gentle into that good night
在电影中听到这首诗的片段,感觉很好,所以找来原诗看看,这是 Dylan Thomas
的一首,貌似是他的代表作,的确,原诗极好,充满哲理,激情和力量,其实老教授读
的时候现在回想,似乎有点 "gentle" 了:)
下面是我的翻译,我参考了巫宁坤的版本,不过觉得韵压的比他好。原诗一半的魅
力在抑扬顿挫的声韵中。几个地方在翻译的时候做了取舍和变通为了照顾声韵,比如
good night的 good 就很可惜的放弃了, dark is right 的 right, 和 be gay。谁有
好的建议,希望告诉我。
话说回来 good night 其实翻译成良夜也不是很... 阅读全帖
s**********n
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来自主题: Poetry版 - Interstellar 中的那首诗
我读Dylan Thomas很少,但很喜欢他。DT好像不像frost、pound那么知名,或者说诗歌
风格不像后者那样彻底改变美国诗坛,乃至modern poetry的局面,诗歌史上他似乎更
以转承著名 --- 或者说DT并不拘束于某种特点鲜明的风格和技巧,肖似稍早于他的法
国画家Manet,Manet为印象派诸君先声,又不拘于印象派。
言归正传,这首诗第一次读,不知道是否是他代表作,不过确实撑的起门面,读罢赞叹
不一!相比之下,贵翻译、包括楼里另一位先生的翻译,我觉得十不存一。。。
你楼下shot观点,DT"涌动咆哮",我也有同感。多啰嗦几句,DT这首小诗给我grand
canyon 的印象,非常美国 --- 沉静庄严又涌动似万顷波涛,动人心弦;也教我不得不
赞叹god bless america,呵呵。
具体说,作者每节重复的『诗眼』
rage, rage, against the dying of the light.
囊括全诗两大主题和线索,rage和night。但作者写法违法常情:rage本是流水般难以
捉摸固定的人类不稳定情绪,而night象征的是人类面对的死亡等『终结』稳... 阅读全帖
f**p
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选择生活
迪伦•托马斯的“请不要悄然地走进那无底的暗夜”,是一个儿子对垂死的父亲
的恳求。他的目的是要表明,他的父亲要像所有的人面对同样的目的 -- 争取生存下去
。 “老者也应当在日暮时燃烧,咆哮”是这首诗主题。托马斯把人分成四种不同的类
别来说服他的父亲。 让他认识到,不管人生的选择,后果,或个性,都有活下去的理
由。托马斯使用这样的分类,使他的父亲没有任何借口,不管他在生活中是那样的人,
都要活下去。
智者是托马斯描述了第一类:他们知道死亡是生命的一个自然组成部分 -- Though
wise men at their end know dark is right,他们有足够的智慧来知道他们应该接受
它。但是,他们首先是对抗,因为他们觉得他们获得还远远不够,他们想保住生命才能
够留下自己的印记,从而维持作为伟大的学者或哲学家的历史记忆。
下一类是好人。 Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright。他们反思自己的
生命,作为最终方案,绿湾是指一个永恒的大海。反思过去后,他们决定继续活下去,
他们希望自己能留在历史上,这个世... 阅读全帖
w****r
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来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - Grief and Loss - self help series(3)
Some Reference Resources:
Colgrove, Bloomfield & McWilliams (1976). How to Survive the Loss of a Love.
Leo Press: NY.
Kreis, B. & Patty, A. (1969). Up From Grief: Patterns of Recovery. Harper
and Row, San Francisco.
Rando, Therese (1988) How to go on Living when Someone You Love Dies.
Lexington Books: Lexington, MA.
Staudacher, Carol. (1987) Beyond Grief: a Guide for Recovering from the
Death of a Loved One. New Harbinger Publications: Oakland, CA.
Staudacher, Carol (1995) A Time to Grieve: Medi
T*******y
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来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - 失去亲人,怎么才能走出黑暗?
Yes, that is the changing nature of dreams, reality, or everything. Nothing'
s permanent, and yet you are also granted the opportunity to choose your
thought and action at each moment starting anew.
Reading your post makes me want to care more about my parents, while I can.
If your pain can touch one more soul like mine, then your pain is also
meaningful in that way, although I'd rather that I could lift your pain.
I don't want to divert your attention from your mom, but I am wondering
whether y... 阅读全帖
T*******y
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来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - 失去亲人,怎么才能走出黑暗?
Yes, that is the changing nature of dreams, reality, or everything. Nothing'
s permanent, and yet you are also granted the opportunity to choose your
thought and action at each moment starting anew.
Reading your post makes me want to care more about my parents, while I can.
If your pain can touch one more soul like mine, then your pain is also
meaningful in that way, although I'd rather that I could lift your pain.
I don't want to divert your attention from your mom, but I am wondering
whether y... 阅读全帖
c****t
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
AN ORISON OF SONMI~451
On behalf of my ministry, thank you for agreeing to this final interview.
Please remember, this
isn’t an interrogation, or a trial. Your version of the truth is the only
one that matters.
TRUTH IS SINGULAR. ITS “VERSIONS” ARE MISTRUTHS.
… Good. Ordinarily, I begin by asking prisoners to recall their earliest
memories to provide a
context for corpocratic historians of the future. Fabricants have no
earliest memories,
Archivist. One twenty-four-hour cycle in Papa Song’s is i... 阅读全帖
k****u
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来自主题: Thoughts版 - Let it go
Let it go
Let it go
Can't hold you back anymore
Let it go
Let it go
Turn my back and slam the door
.
The snow blows white on the mountain tonight
Not a footprint to be seen
A kingdom of isolation and it looks like I'm the Queen
The wind is howling like the swirling storm inside
Couldn't keep it in, heaven knows I tried
Don't let them in, don't let them see
Be the good girl
You always had to be
Conceal, don't feel
Don't let them know
Well, now they know
.
Let it go
Let it go
Can't hold you back a... 阅读全帖
k********k
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来自主题: Translation版 - 《紀念白求恩》
http://news.xinhuanet.com/ziliao/2004-06/24/content_1545030.htm
http://lechinois.ca/agenda/bethune/bethune_memoire.htm
纪念白求恩
毛泽东
(一九三九年十二月二十一日)
http://lechinois.ca/agenda/bethune/bethune_memoire.htm
Mao Tse-tung
In Memory of Norman Bethune
December 21, 1939
http://lechinois.ca/agenda/bethune/bethune_memoire.htm
Mao Zedong
À la mémoire de Norman Bethune
(21 décembre 1939)
http://www.marxists.org/espanol/mao/escritos/NB39s.html
Mao Tse-tung
En Memoria de Norman Bethune
21 de diciembre de 19... 阅读全帖
S*******t
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来自主题: Translation版 - Interstellar 中的那首诗 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Poetry 讨论区 】
发信人: SlowRabit (慢吞吞的小白兔), 信区: Poetry
标 题: Interstellar 中的那首诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 10 13:32:46 2014, 美东)
电影本身不多说了,青菜萝卜各有所爱,拍的很认真,看出来也做了比较用心的研究来
再现黑洞,虫洞等,一些太空的场景拍的动人心魄。不过故事本身比较弱,人物基本上
都比较招人烦,我最厌烦的是电影歌颂父女之情,甚至可以穿越时空,可是拜托,男主
还有个儿子的吧,偏心偏到黑洞里去啦,那何必放这个酱油瓶在那里呢?当妈的表示不
能忍。
不过我要说的不是这个,是里面的诗。
Do not go gentle into that good night
在电影中听到这首诗的片段,感觉很好,所以找来原诗看看,这是 Dylan Thomas
的一首,貌似是他的代表作,的确,原诗极好,充满哲理,激情和力量,其实老教授读
的时候现在回想,似乎有点 "gentle" 了:)
下面是我的翻译,我参考了巫宁坤的版本,不过觉得韵压的比他好。原诗一半的魅
力在抑扬顿挫的声... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Translation版 - 川普的回应真的让我转粉了
【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: feebe (现在是工作AA,以后是监狱AA), 信区: USANews
标 题: 川普的回应真的让我转粉了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 8 20:26:45 2016, 美东)
作者:太浩
川普的回应真的让我转粉了,太牛了。下面我试着原文翻译:
我从来没说过我是一个完美的人,我也从来不装做完美。我曾经做过许多我后悔的事情
,这十多年前的谈话属于其中之一。认识我的人都知道这些话并不能代表我的为人。但
我确实说了,我说错了,我道歉。我在竞选的这段时间里,旅行了很多地方,到很多地
方讲我改变美国的想法。但这段时间的旅行也改变了我。我遇见了失去了孩子的无比悲
伤的母亲,遇见了失去了工作的工人,他们的工作离开了这个国家去了别的国家。我遇
见了很多在人生不同轨迹上的人,他们都希望能有一个更好的未来。这段时间里,我认
识了我们这个国家的伟大的人民,他们给予我的信任使我感到无比的谦卑。我发誓我要
做一个更好的人,我永远永远不会让你们失望。当我们诚实地面对我们的真实世界,我
们发现我们已经太久没有认真对待那些真正重要的问... 阅读全帖
l*******h
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"Grieved" means "to be sorrow for".
The original meaning of "repented" is still "to feel sorrow"
You know everyone will die someday, including your parents. Will you still feel sorrow that day?

and
G******e
发帖数: 9567
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ok,
The LORD [was grieved]/[was sorry]/[had sorrow]/[repented] that he had made
man on the earth.
说的不是上帝后悔“他造了人”这件事,而是对人的反叛离道而悲伤。
这是圣经里的一个脚注:
Does this mean that God regretted creating humanity? Was He admitting he
made a mistake? No, God does not change His mind (1 samuel 15:29). Instead,
he was expressing sorrow for what people had done to themselves, as a parent
might express sorrow over a rebellious child. God was sorry that the people
chose sin and death instead of a relationship with him.
G******e
发帖数: 9567
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 如何看待预定论与自由意志论的冲突
上帝在另外一处也后悔了:
1Samuel 15:10 Now the word of the LORD came to Samuel, saying,
1Samuel 15:11 "I greatly regret that I have set up Saul [as] king, for he
has turned back from following Me, and has not performed My commandments."
And it grieved Samuel, and he cried out to the LORD all night.
B********e
发帖数: 19317
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 如何看待预定论与自由意志论的冲突

的计划。当然了,我们不能问为什么不,因为上帝老人家就想这样,别人管得着吗?但
他决定造人时,他预见了人的堕落,所以这次预定了一个拯救人类的计划。至于为什么
上帝不直接造出完美的人,大家争论很多,甚至各种比喻。不过现在看来,上帝是为了
执行这个计划而没有将人造的完美,或阻止亚当夏娃的堕落。虽然始祖的堕落是由人的
自由意识选择的结果,但应该说是上帝默许的。但上帝目见亚当后人在地球上作恶时,
为什么会 sorry/sorrow/regret/repent that he h: as made man on earth,并且要
把人类灭绝? 好像他从来没有预见到此类事情会发生一样?上帝对某些事情是不做预测
的?
that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved
in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will de
G******e
发帖数: 9567
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 请广大基督徒们发动起来
那这段是不是后悔当初的决定是不妥的:
NKJ 1 Samuel 15:
10 Now the word of the LORD came to Samuel, saying,
11 "I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king, for he has turned back
from following Me, and has not performed My commandments." And it grieved
Samuel, and he cried out to the LORD all night.
上帝做预定计划时,知不知道自己会后悔?如果知道自己会后悔,那为什么要这样定呢
?就是为了自己有机会后悔一下?还是神的一个奥秘?
如果当时上帝不知道自己会后悔,是不是神的感情发展滞后?
http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Belief/31281857_0.html
解释3 --上帝是全知的(过去,现在和未来),但上帝的情感发展是渐进式的。他全知
结果,但自己的情感没跟上节拍;他知道人会作恶,
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 查经贴-使徒行传
Acts 20:13-38 Paul’s Farewell to the Ephesian Elders
13We went on ahead to the ship and sailed for Assos, where we were going to
take Paul aboard. He had made this arrangement because he was going there on
foot. 14When he met us at Assos, we took him aboard and went on to Mitylene
. 15The next day we set sail from there and arrived off Kios. The day after
that we crossed over to Samos, and on the following day arrived at Miletus.
16Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in ... 阅读全帖
w******d
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Genesis 45: 4-5 And Joseph said unto his brethren,... I am Joseph your broth
er, whom ye sold into Egypt. Now therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yo
urselves, that ye sold me hither: for God did send me before you to preserve
life.
The way Joseph preserved his bro...ther's lifes foretold the salvation of Ch
rist on the cross...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmtcuAxnyHw
E*****m
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土豆啊, 你這個批評未免太拙劣了, 馬可裡的highly distraught 情節是講在十字架
上的,你拿路加裡耶穌被逮捕前禱告流汗來支持, 有這道理嗎?
你拿出一段路加裡被逮捕後出現類似馬可裡耶穌哭喊的看看,有嗎?
過路看官不知道我們在講什麼的話,請看原文
      Engaging in this different kind of detective
work can also be interesting and enlightening. For these later authors
sometimes borrowed Mark's sentences wholesale, but on other occasions they
changed what he had to say, sometimes radically. In that sense, they, like
the scribes, were changing scripture. We have seen some examples in the
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教异端之我见
加拉太书5章13-26节,说异端是属于情欲的,与圣灵的果子相对
13
弟兄们,你们蒙召,是要得自由。只是不可将你们的自由当作放纵情欲的机会。总要用
爱心互相服事。
You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to
indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love.
14
因为全律法都包在爱人如己这一句话之内了。
The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as
yourself."
15
你们要谨慎。若相咬相吞,只怕要彼此消灭了。
If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be
destroyed by each other.
16
我说,你们当顺着圣灵而行,就不放纵肉体的情欲了。
So I say, live by the Spi... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣经矛盾 - 神也是会后悔滴

请看不同译本的翻译,创世纪6:6节很多都是grieved--痛心遗憾的意思。
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?t=NKJV&x=57&y=11&b=Gen
再看看民数记23:19, 用的是repent--悔改,改变主意回转的意思。
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?t=NKJV&x=57&y=13&b=Num
显然圣经原文用的是不同的词汇,中文和合本用了一个词。而中文这个词有多重意思。
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣灵在旧约里出现过几次?
亨利马太的圣经注释,仅供参考
Jhn 14:15-17
Christ not only proposes such things to them as were the matter of their com
fort, but here promises to send the Spirit, whose office it should be to be
their Comforter, to impress these things upon them.
I. He premises to this a memento of duty (v. 15): If you love me, keep my co
mmandments. Keeping the commandments of Christ is here put for the practice
of godliness in general, and for the faithful and diligent discharge of thei
r office as apostles in particular. N... 阅读全帖
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CHAPTER V
Of Providence
I. God the great Creator of all things doth uphold,[97] direct, dispose, and
govern all creatures, actions, and things,[98] from the greatest even to th
e least,[99] by his most wise and holy providence,[100] according to his inf
allible foreknowledge,[101] and the free and immutable counsel of his own wi
ll,[102] to the praise of the glory of his wisdom, power, justice, goodness,
and mercy.[103]
II. Although, in relation to the foreknowledge and decree of God, the first
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CHAPTER XII
Of Adoption
I. All those that are justified, God vouchsafeth, in and for his only Son
Jesus Christ, to make partakers of the grace of adoption,[252] by which they
are taken into the number, and enjoy the liberties and privileges of the
children of God,[253] have his name put upon them,[254] receive the Spirit
of adoption,[255] have access to the throne of grace with boldness,[256] are
enabled to cry, Abba, Father,[257] are pitied,[258] protected,[259]
provided for,[260] and chastened... 阅读全帖
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CHAPTER 15
OF REPENTANCE UNTO LIFE
1. Repentance unto life is an evangelical grace, the doctrine whereof is to
be preached by every minister of the gospel, as well as that of faith in Chr
ist.
2. By it, a sinner, out of the sight and sense not only of the danger, but a
lso of the filthiness and odiousness of his sins, as contrary to the holy na
ture, and righteous law of God; and upon the apprehension of his mercy in Ch
rist to such as are penitent, so grieves for, and hates his sins, as to turn... 阅读全帖
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CHAPTER XV
Of Repentance unto Life
I. Repentance unto life is an evangelical grace,[292] the doctrine whereof i
s to be preached by every minister of the gospel, as well as that of faith i
n Christ.[293]
II. By it, a sinner, out of the sight and sense not only of the danger, but
also of the filthiness and odiousness of his sins, as contrary to the holy n
ature, and righteous law of God; and upon the apprehension of his mercy in C
hrist to such as are penitent, so grieves for, and hates his sins,... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Witch Hunts: The End of Magic and Miracles
From: The Dark Side of Christian History
by Helen Ellerbe
Chapter Eight: 1450 - 1750 C.E.
The Reformation did not convert the people of Europe to orthodox
Christianity through preaching and catechisms alone. It was the 300 year
period of witch-hunting from the fifteenth to the eighteenth century, what R
.H. Robbins called "the shocking nightmare, the foulest crime and deepest
shame of western civilization." The Church created the elaborate concept of
devil worship and then, used the persecution ... 阅读全帖
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by Dave Hunt
Two Conflicting Views
Calvinism presents us with the mystery of why God Who is love and Who is inf
inite in mercy toward all lets billions go to hell whom He could rescue. The
Bible on the other hand, confronts us with quite another mystery: why anyon
e who is offered salvation as a free gift of God's grace chooses to reject i
t. We have no answer to that question. Pusey writes:
There is something wonderfully impressive in the respect shown by the Creato
r to the freedom of choice w... 阅读全帖
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在我之前的贴子里就说过,俄利根是引用别人的说法,你现在倒好像发现新大陆一样。
所以说你这个人好为人师真是一点都没错。请引述别人著作的时候,一定要引述全了。
你为什么只引用3和4,不敢往下了呢?
这个东西往下很长,我姑且全部放在这里:
But we should not think that it applies to every man. For, not every man "
goes down from Jerusalem into Jericho," nor do all dwell in this present
world for that reason, even if he who "was sent on account of the lost sheep
of the house of Israel" went down. Hence, the man who "went down from
Jerusalem into Jericho" "fell among robbers" because he himself wished to go
down. But t... 阅读全帖
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俄利根并没有照抄前人的说法,但是也不是全部放弃。
注意下面的话:
For, the priest saw him--I think this means the Law. And the Levite saw him-
-that is, in my view, the prophetic word.
This Samaritan "bears our sins" . and grieves for us.
He carries the half-dead man, and brings him to the pandochium-that is, the
Church, which accepts everyone. and denies its help to no one.
或许是你自己看到一段话好像不是这个意思,就赶紧抓来用吧?

sheep
go
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 神到底会不会后悔?
聖經曾多次提到耶和華「後悔」。難道全能的神會因做錯決定而「後悔」嗎?
不改變的神
聖經所啟示的,是一位昔在、今在、永在、永不改變的神。這位神說:「我──耶
和華是不改變的」(瑪三6);「在祂並沒有改變,也沒有轉動的影兒」(雅一17)。
神的不變是指祂的屬性,如聖潔、慈愛、良善、公義、憐憫,以及祂的旨意等,都是不
改變的,「因為祂不能背乎自己」(提後二13)。從這方面來看,神是不會改變、不會
後悔的。「神的恩賜和選召是沒有後悔的。」(羅一一29)巴蘭的預言也為此作見證:
「神非人,必不致說謊,也非人子,必不致後悔。祂說話豈不照著行呢?祂發言豈不要
成就呢?」(民二三19)
神在何事上「後悔」?
不過,聖經的確有些地方提到神「後悔」了。最早的有關經文說到神「後悔」造人
。「耶和華見人在地上罪惡很大,終日所思想的盡都是惡,耶和華就後悔造人在地上,
心中憂傷。耶和華說:『我要將所造的人……都從地上除滅,因為我造他們後悔了。』
」(創六5-7)我們又讀到神「後悔」立了掃羅作以色列王。「耶和華的話臨到撒母耳
說:『我立掃羅為王,我後悔了;因為他轉去不跟從我,不遵守我的命令。』」(撒上
一五11)
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费氏要理问答
THE
SHORTER CATECHISM
EXPLAINED
QUESTION 65. What is forbidden in the Fifth Commandment?
ANSWER: The Fifth Commandment forbiddeth the neglecting of, or doing any
thing against, the honour and duty, which belong to every one in their
several places and relations.
Q. 1. What is it to neglect the honour and duty which belong to every one in
their several places and relations?
A. It is not only to omit the performance of such relative duties altogether
, but even when they are performed, to d... 阅读全帖
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费氏要理问答65
THE
SHORTER CATECHISM
EXPLAINED
QUESTION 65. What is forbidden in the Fifth Commandment?
ANSWER: The Fifth Commandment forbiddeth the neglecting of, or doing any
thing against, the honour and duty, which belong to every one in their
several places and relations.
Q. 1. What is it to neglect the honour and duty which belong to every one in
their several places and relations?
A. It is not only to omit the performance of such relative duties altogether
, but even when they are performed, to... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于中国基督教传播以及改革的展望
看明白了吧?
创 6:3 耶和华说:“人既属乎血气,我的灵就不永远住在他里面;然而他的日子还可
到一百二十年。” 创 6:4 那时候有伟人在地上,后来 神的儿子们和人的女子们交合
生子,那就是上古英武有名的人。 创 6:5 耶和华见人在地上罪恶很大,终日所思想的
尽都是恶; 创 6:6 耶和华就后悔造人在地上,心中忧伤。 创 6:7 耶和华说:“我要
将所造的人和走兽,并昆虫,以及空中的飞鸟,都从地上除灭,因为我造他们后悔了。
” 创 6:8 惟有挪亚在耶和华眼前蒙恩。
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for
that he also is flesh, yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Glossary to the Westminster Confession
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: Glossary to the Westminster Confession
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 24 21:16:33 2012, 美东)
Glossary to the Westminster Confession
Explanations of all archaic and uncommon words, usages, and expressions, in
the order in which they occur.
Title Confession. n. Public statement of religious beliefs.
1.1 Providence. n. Divine care. Manifest. v. Show. Are they. idiom. T
hey are. Unto. prep. With regard to. Sundry. adj. Separate. D... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣经无误之现有资源
四楼:
芝加哥第三那个宣言
国际圣经无误协会最后一次会议,第三次峰会,与1986年12月10-13日在芝加哥举行。
与会者采纳了芝加哥圣经应用宣言(Chicago Statement on Biblical Application),
包括六点和各自的引言。论文发表。
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01015ops.html
原文在这里:http://library.dts.edu/Pages/TL/Special/ICBI_3.pdf
The final ICBI conference, Summit III, met on December 10–13, 1986 in Chica
go. The participants adopted the Chicago Statement on Biblical Application,
composed of sixteen articles with a separate introduction. Papers read at th
e conference were publishe... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 查经贴-使徒行传
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1:1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一件意外
一件意外
by Barbara
巴巴拉(Barbara)载着她六岁小孩,班杰明(Benjamin),去上钢琴课。他们己经迟
到,她开始想稍早时就应该取消上课。总是有忙不完的事,巴巴拉在本地医院上晚班,
最近常加班,她很疲倦,夹着雨的雪和结冰的道路增加她的紧张。
“妈!”班杰明喊着:“注意!”
在前面的一辆车在一块的冰上失去了控制。巴巴拉踩刹车。那一部车慌乱的旋转着
,翻滚,然后撞到路旁一个电话亭。巴巴拉将自己的车开到路旁,停下来,快速打开车
门。还好她是一个护士,她可以帮助那车上的乘客。但她却踌躇着....
“班怎么办?我不能带着小男孩一起,不能让他看到血淋淋的画面。但留下他一个
人安全吗?如果他的车子被人从后追撞怎么办?其他人一定也会出现。但…不!”,
她对班说:“亲爱的班,答应我,你一定要留在车上!”
班回答:“我一定会的,妈。”
她跑过去车祸现场,滑了好几次。情形比她担心的还要糟。二个高中女孩在车上,
一个金发的坐在乘客位子,撞击后当场死亡。
坐在驾驶座的女孩还在呼吸,但已失去意识,在残骸中无法动弹。巴巴拉立刻对伤
者头部伤部止血,但她有经验的眼睛却看到了其他的伤处。一只或双腿断... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Huckabee: Where was God? (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 BibleStudy 俱乐部 】
发信人: SEEKETERNAL (追求永生), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Huckabee: Where was God?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 17 22:55:32 2012, 美东)
"
当那些反神长期以来不遗余力地把一切对神敬拜的行为赶出校园等公共场所以后,一旦
发生这样的惨案,他们又会不知羞耻地倒打一耙,问神在哪里,质疑神为什么不管。下
面这个讲话在一定程度上对这个种恶因结恶果的现象予以揭示,供弟兄姊妹参考。....
.."
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2038135300001/huckabee-where-was-god
NEW YORK (BP) -- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee took to his Saturday
show on Fox News to answer the question of where God was during Friday's
massacre at Sandy Hoo... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 2/5 Nevada pastor faces child sex abuse charges
http://www.courier-journal.com/viewart/20130205/NEWS01/30205006
WASHINGTON — A Las Vegas man has been charged in Maryland with molesting
boys in the 1980s while assisting with youth ministries at a church targeted
in a child sex abuse lawsuit.
Nathaniel Morales, who had been working as a pastor in Nevada, is accused in
an indictment of sexually abusing the boys when he worked with Covenant
Life Church in Gaithersburg, Md.
That church until December was associated with Sovereign Grace Ministries,... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 历史上的弥赛亚名单
怪就怪在Flavius Josephus费了不少笔墨描写Simon of Peraea,Athronges, Menahem
ben Judah, Vespasian,而和作家时间更靠近的耶稣就没啥记录啊,有的那段还是公认
的伪造品
Simon of Peraea
"There was also Simon, who had been a slave of king Herod, but in other
respects a comely person, of a tall and robust body; he was one that was
much superior to others of his order, and had had great things committed to
his care. This man was elevated at the disorderly state of things, and was
so bold as to put a diadem on his head, while a certain number of the p... 阅读全帖
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-rick-warren-mental-
By Joseph Serna
April 17, 2013, 1:13 p.m.
Pastor Rick Warren and his wife have launched a petition about mental
illness after their son’s suicide.
“Join Kay and I, and the Saddleback Family, in our effort to urge educators
, lawmakers, healthcare professionals, and church congregations to raise the
awareness and lower the stigma of mental illness … and support the
families that deal with mental illness on a daily basis,” the petitio... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶証傳教內部 cheatsheet
They whom God hath accepted in His Beloved, effectually called and
sanctified by his Spirit, can neither totally nor finally fall away from the
state of grace; but shall certainly persevere therein to the end, and be
eternally saved. ─Westminster Confession of Faith (chap. 17, sec. 1)
Nevertheless [believers] may, through the temptations of Satan and of the
world, the prevalency of corruption remaining in them, and the neglect of
the means of their preservation, fall into grievous sins; and for ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶証傳教內部 cheatsheet
They whom God hath accepted in His Beloved, effectually called and
sanctified by his Spirit, can neither totally nor finally fall away from the
state of grace; but shall certainly persevere therein to the end, and be
eternally saved. ─Westminster Confession of Faith (chap. 17, sec. 1)
Nevertheless [believers] may, through the temptations of Satan and of the
world, the prevalency of corruption remaining in them, and the neglect of
the means of their preservation, fall into grievous sins; and for ... 阅读全帖
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没必要起个这么大的名字,基督徒会不会回答什么问题,不是你说的算。回答这个问题
就不是基督徒了?还是基督徒的回答都不算回答?
Matthew 7
New International Version (NIV)
Judging Others
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be
measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay
no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother
, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is... 阅读全帖
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