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g*******0
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来自主题: Military版 - Famine in China, 1958-61 的估算
"Famine in China, 1958-61"
Ashton, Basil, Kenneth Hill, Allan Piazza, Robin Zeitz,
Population and Development Review,
Vol.10, No.4,
Dec. 1984
本文作者认为科尔教授估算的2700万非正常死亡偏低,
本文的估算是3000万或者更多.
全文下载
http://www.xgc2000.net/wh/famine/Research/Ashton84.pdf
w***t
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t******n
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来自主题: FleaMarket版 - [+] famin
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i******t
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来自主题: FleaMarket版 - [+] famin
对方ID:
famin
Feedback (+/-/0):
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具体交易内容:
ebay gc
我的评价:
AAA plus mitbbser
H****g
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Grada论文摘要
Frank Dikötter’s Mao’s Great Famine {henceforth “MGF”} is the
longest and most detailed study of the Great Leap Forward (GLF) famine to
appear in English to date.{…} The tone throughout is one of abhorrence and
outrage, and sometimes MGF reads more like a catalogue of anecdotes about
atrocities than a sustained analytic argument. In style and approach it
recalls Jung Chang and Jon Halliday’s controversial Mao: The Unknown Story
(2005); indeed, Chang leads the ”praise” for MGF on t... 阅读全帖
c***h
发帖数: 1862
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吉尼斯世界纪录中的中国三年大饥荒
《吉尼斯世界纪录大全》是举世公认的权威书籍。中国国家图书馆有原版的
GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS 2001,如果翻译成中文就是《2001吉尼斯世界纪录大全》,
在该书第185页有这么一段文字:
MOST PEOPLE KILLED IN A FAMINE
Between 1959 and 1961,approximately 40 million people died of
starvation in China.

把这段英文翻译成中文就是:
饿死人最多的一次饥荒
在1959年到1961年之间,在中国大约有4000万人死于饥饿。
1994 年红旗出版社出版、吕廷煜所著《中华人民共和国历史纪实》一书,在大饥
荒一文中说:“1959年至1961年的非正常死亡和减少出生人口数,大约在 4000万人左
右。”廖盖隆任中共党史研究室副主任,有接触机密资料的权力,他在《炎黄春秋》
2000年第三期曾撰文说,大跃进中国非正常死亡人数是 4000万人。1993年,上海大学
金辉教授以国家... 阅读全帖
R*******d
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来自主题: NextGeneration版 - 孕期糖尿病到底有多危险?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_famine_of_1944
Dutch famine of 1944 Legacy[edit]
This famine was close to unique as it took place in a modern, developed and
literate country, albeit suffering under the privations of occupation and
war (other example: the famine during the siege of Leningrad). The well-
documented experience has allowed scientists to measure the effects of
famine on human health.
The Dutch Famine Birth Cohort Study, carried out by the departments of
Clinical Epidemiology and B... 阅读全帖
h*****1
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来自主题: History版 - 三年大饥荒时照片在哪里?
这里有一篇否定死3千万老外写的文章。 有他的道理,有许多理由和亮点。节录他最前
和最后的一段,其他的自己去看。
http://bermudaradical.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/revisiting-alleg
"Thirty years ago, a highly successful vilification campaign was launched
against Mao Zedong, saying that a massive famine in which 27 to 30 million
people died in China took place during the Great Leap period, 1958 to 1961,
which marked the formation of the people’s communes under his leadership.
The main basis of this assertion was, first, the population deficit in China
dur... 阅读全帖
D*****i
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RESEARCHER: FAMINE KILLED 7 MILLION IN U.S. DURING “GREAT DEPRESSION”
Dmitry Lyskov
Pravda
May 22, 2008
Another online scandal has been gathering pace recently. Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia, deleted an article by a Russian researcher, who wrote about
the USA’s losses in the Great Depression of 1932-1933. Indignant bloggers
began to actively distribute the article on the Russian part of a popular
blog service known as Livejournal. The above-mentioned article triggered a
heated debate.
The res... 阅读全帖
l****z
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/22/7-enviro-predictions-from-ear
Environmentalists truly believed and predicted during the first Earth Day in
1970 that the planet was doomed unless drastic actions were taken.
Humanity never quite got around to that drastic action, but
environmentalists still recall the first Earth Day fondly and hold many of
the predictions in high regard.
So this Earth Day, The Daily Caller News Foundation takes a look at
predictions made by environmentalists around the original... 阅读全帖
D**0
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☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
afei (阿飞) 于 (Thu Dec 9 21:31:39 2010, 美东) 提到:
因发表后争议剧烈,特做如下声明。
本文因当时报道刘晓波邀请疆独领袖热比亚作为嘉宾参加诺贝尔颁奖仪式,从而引起首发版面对于与藏独疆独合作是否为叛国争论这一事件产生。我对刘晓波抨击政府,发表08宪章,获得诺贝尔等其他事迹立场完全中性,并无抨击。
不吵架,说点历史故事。
这次被多次使用来嘲笑土共的1935年诺贝尔和平奖获得者,Carl von Ossietzky,因为
当年被Nazi政府禁止领奖,基本都是用来类比这次的刘小波,当然含义就是,土共是
Nazi
于是有了点兴趣,看了看这位Carl von Ossietzky的生平。他是因为向外国媒体泄露德
国违背凡尔赛条约,重新装备空军并在苏联训练飞行员的事件,而被德国当时的魏玛
共和国(原文发表时为纳粹,后经指正改为事实上的当时民主国家魏玛共和国)
以间谍罪和叛国罪起诉并定罪的。他的获奖造成了巨大的争议,甚至有评奖委员会成
员辞职,认为将奖金颁给他是不应该的。“他... 阅读全帖
m******x
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 方舟子: 饱生男饿生女 zz
原文:
Does famine influence sex ratio at birth? Evidence from the 1959–1961 Great
Leap Forward Famine in China
Shige Song*
Queens College and CUNY Institute for Demographic Research, City University
of New York, 65-30 Kissena Boulevaard, Flushing, NY 11367, USA
↵*s********[email protected]
Abstract
The current study examined the long-term trend in sex ratio at birth between
1929 and 1982 using retrospective birth histories of 310 101 Chinese women
collected in a large, nationally representative ... 阅读全帖
p**********d
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/04/world/asia/04museum.html?_r=1
April 3, 2011
At China’s New Museum, History Toes Party Line
By IAN JOHNSON
BEIJING — At the elaborately renovated National Museum of China in
Tiananmen Square, visitors interested in the recent history of the world’s
fastest rising power can gaze at the cowboy hat that Deng Xiaoping once wore
when he visited the United States, or admire the bullhorn that President Hu
Jintao used to exhort people to overcome hardship after the Sichu... 阅读全帖
J*********r
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来自主题: Military版 - 看看中国多繁荣幸福和谐
一个回复:
Michael Teuton · Medical University of South Carolina
My girlfriend is a Chinese National. First I'm certainly not saying there
isn't a problem in China. But there are some misconceptions about this issue
. The one child policy affects a little more than 38% of the population in
China. It is primarily an issue for the Han population in Eastern urban
China. The one child policy does not affect minorities in China and it is
not enforced for most of the rural population in China where the maj... 阅读全帖
h**********e
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Ashton, Basil, Kenneth Hill, Alan Piazza, Robin Zeitz, "Famine in China,
1958-61", Population and Development Review, Vol. 10, No. 4. (Dec., 1984),
pp. 613–645.
Banister, J. "Analysis of recent data on the population of China",
Population and Development, Vol.10, No.2, 1984.
Cao Shuji, The deaths of China's population and its contributing factors
during 1959-1961. China's Population Science (Jan.2005) (In Chinese)
Coale, Ansley J., Rapid population change in China, 1952–1982, National
Academy Pr... 阅读全帖
h**********e
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来自主题: Military版 - 我对饿死三千万的观点
Ashton, Basil, Kenneth Hill, Alan Piazza, Robin Zeitz, "Famine in China,
1958-61", Population and Development Review, Vol. 10, No. 4. (Dec., 1984),
pp. 613–645.
Banister, J. "Analysis of recent data on the population of China",
Population and Development, Vol.10, No.2, 1984.
Cao Shuji, The deaths of China's population and its contributing factors
during 1959-1961. China's Population Science (Jan.2005) (In Chinese)
Coale, Ansley J., Rapid population change in China, 1952–1982, National
Academy Pr... 阅读全帖
h**********e
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Ashton, Basil, Kenneth Hill, Alan Piazza, Robin Zeitz, "Famine in China,
1958-61", Population and Development Review, Vol. 10, No. 4. (Dec., 1984),
pp. 613–645.
Banister, J. "Analysis of recent data on the population of China",
Population and Development, Vol.10, No.2, 1984.
Cao Shuji, The deaths of China's population and its contributing factors
during 1959-1961. China's Population Science (Jan.2005) (In Chinese)
Coale, Ansley J., Rapid population change in China, 1952–1982, National
Academy Pr... 阅读全帖
h**********e
发帖数: 2973
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Ashton, Basil, Kenneth Hill, Alan Piazza, Robin Zeitz, "Famine in China,
1958-61", Population and Development Review, Vol. 10, No. 4. (Dec., 1984),
pp. 613–645.
Banister, J. "Analysis of recent data on the population of China",
Population and Development, Vol.10, No.2, 1984.
Cao Shuji, The deaths of China's population and its contributing factors
during 1959-1961. China's Population Science (Jan.2005) (In Chinese)
Coale, Ansley J., Rapid population change in China, 1952–1982, National
Academy Pr... 阅读全帖
k******a
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engelsian
31 January 2013 1:55pm
The British left India after nearly 200 years of rule with a lower literacy
rate than when they began, and a life expectancy of about 25 years.
India endured many famines under Brtish rulers who often showed less concern
about mass deaths than even Indian feudal rulers had shown in the past.
About 25 million Indians are estimated to have perished in British famines
in India in the nineteenth century.
When the British established control of Bengal so frenzied was ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Tintin vs. Walter Duranty, Stalin Stooge
By Arnold Cusmariu
Steven Spielberg's just-released 3D animated feature combining stories in
three Tintin books had me clapping with delight as the credits rolled. I
won't spill what happens; you can read on without fear of spoilers.
The Tintin books began in 1929 as a comic strip under the skillful pen of
Belgian artist Georges Remi (1907-1983), aka Hergé -- reverse his initials
and say them in French. The strip first appeared on 10 January 1929 in a
children's supplement of the conservative ... 阅读全帖
O******D
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Oh man, you are not serious, or are you?
The only distinction between murder and manslaughter is whether it's
premeditated or not. One can not argue that Mao was "premeditated" to
push China to colonization, famine, or any of the disasters. But, as so
called "the leader of Chinese democracy movement", saying "China needs
300 years of colonization" in an interview on publicly broadcast media
could be just taken a mistake, or Kou3 Wu4??? REALLY? If it is, then he
is definitely not smart enough to... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - The Darker Side Of God
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: Belief版 - The Darker Side Of God (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 仔细读圣经 灾荒到底几年?
我们知道你们的任务是污蔑基督教。但也没必要拿这种烂大街的东西冒充新发现。
至少google一下嘛。
Study Bible上写的很清楚。很多译本用的也是三年。
ESV Study Bible上这样写的。
Although the Hebrew reads “seven years of famine”(see esv footnote), the
text here follows the Septuagint and 1 Chron. 21:12, three years of famine,
which makes good sense. If the Masoretic text is original, then “seven” is
possibly used symbolically, since that time frame was a common theme in the
ancient Near East (see Gen. 41:30; 2 Kings 8:1). Chronicles, then, would
give the nonfigurative pe... 阅读全帖
n*******1
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港大教授经4年调查 指“大跃进害死4500万人”(图)

文章来源: 明报 于 2010-11-10 20:02:27
港大教授经4年调查 指“大跃进害死4500万人”(图) 明报
香港大学人文学院讲座教授冯客(Frank Dikotter)指遍查内地多个省份的文献,
他估计在大跃进期间不正常死亡的人数多达4500万人,远比一般外界认为的3000万人多
。他今天会就其新书Mao's Great Famine在外国记者会举行讲座。(朱永伦摄)
1958年,毛泽东到天津试验密集栽种的农地考察。(摘自Mao's Great Famine)
【明报专讯】上世纪50年代末以「大炼钢铁」、「15年内超越英国」为目标的大跃
进运动,最终导致全国大饥荒。虽然官方归咎「三年自然灾害」,但香港大学人文学院
讲座教授冯客(Frank Dikotter),用了4年遍阅内地解封档案,指这场人祸中不正常
死亡人数多达4500万,远比一般认为的3000万为多,其中数百万人是饿死、自杀或被打
死,他形容大跃进是中国历史的「大污点」。
冯客今年9月出版Mao's Great Famine,聚焦1958年至1962... 阅读全帖
g*****e
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: ganbade (干吧爹), 信区: Military
标 题: 港大教授经4年调查 指“大跃进害死4500万人”(图)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 12 01:28:34 2010, 美东)
明报
香港大学人文学院讲座教授冯客(Frank Dikotter)指遍查内地多个省份的文献,
他估计在大跃进期间不正常死亡的人数多达4500万人,远比一般外界认为的3000万人多
。他今天会就其新书Mao's Great Famine在外国记者会举行讲座。(朱永伦摄)
http://space.wenxuecity.com/_gallery/201011/news/s=bzernzndmmld3xt32bz9jl3ld4xpt8yapm27zb1nn2byxsc33b91d2f9whk84cnr02bn2fwhjm2rd4yob6y8yl0s79yniixgq2b0lz9kkijjdbonoi7wn3iu2fxonp7blaaru8uh3b6k
1958年,毛泽东到天津试验密集栽种的农地考察。(摘自Mao's Gr... 阅读全帖
H****g
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那再来看看这个棒子Andrew S. Natsios 写的书?
The Great North Korean Famine [Paperback]
Andrew S. Natsios (Author)
很不幸,读者这么说:"Much of this book is built on such half-truths."
As a professional colleague once said about another author, he got the story
right but the facts wrong.
This is a difficult book to evaluate. It basically gets the story of the
North Korean famine right, but it is misleading or wrong in many of the
specifics, starting with the first sentence of the book "In September 1995
the North Korea... 阅读全帖
D*****i
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中国国家广播电台并没有在自己的网站上宣布所谓“辞退造谣者”。所以这个所谓“辞
退造谣者”可能是造谣。
另外下面这个外国网站登了有名有姓的文章说米帝饿死700百万。
The researcher, Boris Borisov, in his article titled “The American Famine”
estimated the victims of the financial crisis in the US at over seven
million people. The researcher also directly compared the US events of 1932-
1933 with Holodomor, or Famine, in the USSR during 1932-1933.
http://www.infowars.com/researcher-famine-killed-7-million-in-us-during-great-depression/
我前面好几次给了这篇文章的link,你都避而不谈。没有狗粮党说上面这个文章也是造
谣的?
w****2
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I listed the famines above (the bidu data).
Not every famine was reported by the foreigners. I agree that more solid
sources are required to confirm the bidu data. But we cannot say that only
the famines reported by foreigners are real, while the others are fake.

内由大公报报道,被当局封杀,美国记者白修德(Theodore H. White )打破蒋政府新
闻封锁,将新闻直接发到纽约,在 Times 发布新闻,搞得当时在美的宋美龄很没面
子,使灾情得到了重视,避免了更大损失,即便如此,白修德估计死亡人数仍然有200-
300万。
China, William Sloane Associates, New York, 1946, pp. 166-178.
本朝是最大的区别],所以找到依据并不是那么困难[跟58年比],12.9死
t*******y
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国死于大饥荒人数高达4500万
http://www.amazon.com/Maos-Great-Famine-Devastating-Catastrophe
Amazon上读者对冯书的荒谬结论驳斥:
China's mortality during the GLF was the same as India's, Pakistan's, and
Indonesia's at the time. Dikotter's figures imply this. Consider the
following:
* Dikotter adopts 10/1000 as a 'normal' yearly death rate for China, and
claims this as the figure for China just before the leap in 1957. Deaths
above this are regarded as 'excess' deaths.
* 10/1000 was the mortality in advanced industrialised West in 1960.
* ... 阅读全帖
x******g
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来自主题: Military版 - 外发张戎:睁眼的瞎子
这个女人从身体到灵魂都外发了。
这个下贱外发跟她的外国老公写书(Mao the Unknown Story)说毛泽东在和平时期饿
死了七千万人,其中大跃进时饿死了三千七百万人。让西方的轮子们high死了。她干脆
说是饿死2亿好了。
看来这些都是信口开河的轮子啊:
June Chang
Jon Halliday,
Stuart Schram,
Yang Jisheng
Hu Yaobang
Frank Dikötter
R. J. Rummel
Judith Banister
Number of deaths under Mao
The book opens with the sentence "Mao Tse-tung, who for decades held
absolute power over the lives of one-quarter of the world's population, was
responsible for well over 70 million deaths in peacetime, more than any
other twent... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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这是伟大的休战时间。所有国家都庄严承诺自己不与任何其他国家打仗。俄罗斯,德国
,奥地利,意大利,希腊和土耳其的军队开始逐步动员,第一波行动开始。力量集结后
开始向东移动。所有铁路上都充斥着到亚洲的部队的列车。中国是这一切行动的最终目
标。过了一段时间后,庞大的海上行动。来自各个国家的远洋军舰远征而出,舰队随后
,一直到中国沿海。国家清空了他们的海军码头。他们派出了预算官,工兵,和灯塔守
护者,他们派出了过去陈旧的巡洋舰和战舰。同时他们开始招募商船加入。统计表明,
共有58640艏商船,配备探照灯和速射火炮,由各国开往中国。
中国在微笑地等待着。在她的土地边,沿着她的国界,驻扎了以百万计的欧洲战士。她
动员了五倍于此的民兵等待入侵。这次看来与上次一样。但中国突然感到困惑。因为这
支庞大的队伍并没有开始入侵。她无法理解这一现象。广大的西伯利亚边境一切都归于
平静。她的海岸城镇和村庄甚至没有遭到炮轰。在世界历史上,从来没有过如此强大的
战争舰队的聚集。世界上所有的船队,百万吨的战舰聚集在她的海岸线上,却什么都没
有发生。没有任何尝试。他们想使她离开她的地盘吗?中国笑了。他们以为能够厌倦死
她... 阅读全帖
S**********b
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介个解释
你自己有没觉得有点弱?
爱尔兰famine那是几百年前的事了
Ukraine famine 被认为是stalin forced famine
记得那个著名的russian scientist?里深刻什么的
b********n
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Study: Junk Food more Deadly than War, Famine, Genocide
Researchers reveal disturbing numbers
http://naturalsociety.com/study-junk-food-deadly-war-famine-gen
Food in the end, in our tradition, is something holy. It’s not about
nutrients and calories. It’s about sharing. It’s about honesty. It’s
about identity. ~ Louise Fresco
You may already know that junk food is bad for your health, but you may not
realize how bad it can be. A new study from the School of Medical Sciences
at Australia’s Univer... 阅读全帖
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Just as some have speculated that the experience of slavery lingers in the
psyche of the descendants of slaves, the Irish Famine, the result of the
British genocidal policy against the Irish, has affected the generations of
the Irish that followed, and Jews are suffering from post-traumatic stress
as a result of the Holocaust. Dissolving into Whiteness has provided both
with an escape chute. It was when James Baldwin wrote in Dan Watt’s The
Liberator that Jews had become White Christians that h... 阅读全帖
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日本的史学界对二战中的日军伤亡也说法不一。服部卓四郎的《大东亚战争全史》记载
,日本在整个二战中伤亡261万人,其中陆军152.4万,海军42.8万,民众65.8万。此数
据出自日本复原局和经济安定局,相对比较可靠。
那中国伤亡多少人呢?根据不完全统计,二战期间,中国死亡人数高达1200万,受伤人
数在2300万左右,也就是军民合计伤亡总数达3500万,多么触目惊心的一个数字!这个
数字记录的是日军在我国犯下的滔天罪行,这个数字值得警醒我们每个中国人。
三年大饥荒死了3600万,少生了4000万,还是老毛厉害鸭
Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia
The Great Chinese Famine (Chinese: 三年大饑荒)
Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng concluded there were 36 million deaths due
to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that "
China's total p... 阅读全帖
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轮子懂英文吗?来看看你洋爹说的数字:

Death toll
It is not known exactly how many people died during the period of the famine
, although it is believed that more died from disease than from starvation。
State registration of births, marriages, or deaths had not yet begun, and
records kept by the Roman Catholic Church are incomplete. One possible
estimate has been reached by comparing the expected population with the
eventual numbers in the 1850s. A census taken in 1841 recorded a population
of 8,175,124. A census ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 回应饿死三千万
How did Mao manage to kill ~78 million people?
Janus Dongye Qimeng
Janus Dongye Qimeng, Research Scientist at Dark Matter (2019-present)
Updated Jul 26, 2019
Firstly let us think about an interesting question:
How many Chinese people were killed during Xi Jinping’s term?
The answer is: 59.6 million
Can you believe it? Yes it is true!
Consider the death rate of current Chinese population is 7.1‰, one could
easily calculate this number: 1.4billion * 7.1‰ * 6 years = 59.6 million,
which is even gre... 阅读全帖
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Climate Change: The Single Greatest Misinformation Campaign in World History
April 24, 2015 - 11:16 AM
By Stephen Moore
Wednesday was Earth Day and to hear the experts like Usher and Al Gore tell
the story, the planet is in a miserable state. We’re running out of our
natural resources, we’re overpopulating the globe and running out of room,
the air that we breathe is becoming toxic, the oceans are rising and soon
major coastal cities will be underwater, and the Earth is, of course,
heating up, e... 阅读全帖
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swjtuer (swjtuer) 于 (Tue Mar 30 23:56:30 2010, 美东) 提到:
星期一
早餐 牛奶,煮鸡蛋,玉米馒头,榨菜
早点 芦柑
午餐 中大:绿豆饭,木须肉,海米冬瓜,棒骨菠菜汤
小婴:绿豆饭,三叶瓜炒肉,海米冬瓜,棒骨菠菜汤
午点 冰糖山楂水,蔬菜饼
晚餐 棒骨冬苋菜瘦肉粥,卤肉秋叶夹馍

星期二
早餐 牛奶,蒸鸡蛋,枣泥糕
早点 香蕉
午餐 中大:胡萝卜饭,芹菜炒牛肉,珊瑚豆腐,棒骨凤尾汤
小婴:胡萝卜饭,芹菜炒肉,珊瑚豆腐,棒骨凤尾汤
午点 果汁,卤猪肝
晚餐 豌豆肉末焖饭,番茄虾皮紫菜汤
星期三
早餐 南瓜粥,卤蛋,如意肉卷
早点 脐橙
午餐 中大:金银饭,咸烧白,海米儿菜,棒骨冬苋菜汤
小婴:金银饭,樱桃肉,海米儿菜,棒骨冬苋菜汤
午点 牛奶,蛋卷
晚餐 米饭,蒜苔炒肉,芙蓉蒸蛋,棒骨海带萝卜汤
星期四
早餐 牛奶,蒸鸡蛋,奶香馒头
早点 苹果
午餐 中大:南瓜饭,什锦鱼丸,韭菜炒豆干,番茄菌类鱼汤
... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 问基督徒一个问题
And the famine was over all the face of the earth: and Joseph opened all the
storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine waxed sore in the
land of Egypt.
And all countries came into Egypt to Joseph for to buy corn; because that
the famine was so sore in all lands.
你认为当时哪位诺亚的后代从华夏到埃及找约瑟买玉米?
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张晓波,男,1966年出生,现任北京大学国家发展研究院国家“千人计划”讲座教授,
国际SSCI期刊《China Economic Review》主编之一,主要研究发展经济学、农业经济
学和中国经济等领域。近五年来先后在《Journal of Political Economy》、《
Journal ofDevelopment Economics》、《Journal of International Economics》等
权威英文期刊和《管理世界》、《经济学季刊》等国内权威期刊发表论文数十篇;出版
《中国产业集群的演化与发展》、《Narratives of ChineseEconomic Reforms: How
Does China Cross the River?》、《Regional Inequality inChina: Trends,
Explanations and Policy Responses》、《Governing Rapid Growth inChina:
Equity and Institutions》等学术专著多部(含合著)。在国际知名经济学家网站(
IDEA... 阅读全帖
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张晓波,男,1966年出生,现任北京大学国家发展研究院国家“千人计划”讲座教授,
国际SSCI期刊《China Economic Review》主编之一,主要研究发展经济学、农业经济
学和中国经济等领域。近五年来先后在《Journal of Political Economy》、《
Journal ofDevelopment Economics》、《Journal of International Economics》等
权威英文期刊和《管理世界》、《经济学季刊》等国内权威期刊发表论文数十篇;出版
《中国产业集群的演化与发展》、《Narratives of ChineseEconomic Reforms: How
Does China Cross the River?》、《Regional Inequality inChina: Trends,
Explanations and Policy Responses》、《Governing Rapid Growth inChina:
Equity and Institutions》等学术专著多部(含合著)。在国际知名经济学家网站(
IDEA... 阅读全帖
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My hometown in southern HeNan, bordering AnHui, alone had thousdands of
people died of famine. Dead bodies were dug out to be eaten. Hungry mobs
ambush the weak. Trees were bare (bark were peeled off for food). Grass
gone. Father wouldn't share food with son. Grandma cooked grandson for food
. Flour like white powdery soil were eaten and caused hundreds to die of
indigestion.
The harvest was not bad. In fact before the massive starvation, harvest were
best ever since the country was libera... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: znprc (znprc), 信区: Military
标 题: 关于59-61大饥荒的最新研究,含文献综述
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 16 01:48:23 2011, 美东)
http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/index.php/index/research/downl
林毅夫就是研究这个成的名
Studies have found that weather can only explain 30-50% of the fall (Kueh,
1994; Li and Yang,
2005). Past works have hypothesized that the fall in production was
associated with Great Leap Forward
(GLF) era policies such as labor and acreage reductions in grain production
(e.g., Peng, 1987;... 阅读全帖
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Stephan Haggard and Marcus Noland这两个棒子的英文不错,连名字都改了。
Famine in North Korea: Markets, Aid, and Reform
Stephan Haggard and Marcus Noland
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Paper, 368 pages, 59 illus.
ISBN: 978-0-231-14001-0
$24.50 / £17.00
February, 2007
Cloth, 368 pages, 59 illus.
ISBN: 978-0-231-14000-3
$70.00 / £48.50
In the mid-1990s, as many as one million North Koreans died in one of the
worst famines of the twentieth century.
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已经有人批过了。
It is not a comprehensive account of the famine; it is
dismissive of academic work on the topic; it is weak on context and
unreliable with data; and it fails to note that many of the horrors it
describes were recurrent features of Chinese history during the previous
century or so.
Grada, C. O. 2011. Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most
Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962. Population and Development Review, 37(1)
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先fire香港大学的校长和历史系主任。
再kick冯客(Frank Dikötter)这鬼子out.
在中国的土地上决不容许反中国的洋鬼子发音。
Frank Dikötter is a Dutch historian and author of Mao's Great Famine.
The book won the 2011 Samuel Johnson Prize.[3] Dikötter is Chair
Professor of Humanities at the University of Hong Kong, where he teaches
courses on both Mao and the Great Chinese Famine,[4] and Professor of the
Modern History of China from the School of Oriental and African Studies at
the University of London.

1962
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周末买了本旧书,1965年版的A History of Modern World, edited by R.R. Palmer
and Joel Colton, 3rd edition,该书858页写了大跃进,提到作物歉收,粮食供应不
足。原文如下
With successive years of crop failures and deficiencies, some of which were
caused by natural disasters, the government abandoned the communal program,
at least temporarily. 原文里没有提到任何大饥荒(famine),更没有提到任何大规
模饿死若干万人。
事实上,改革开放之前的任何严肃一点的国外历史书籍,应该都没有提到所谓饿死3000
万或者上千万人的。当然,如果有人看到有1978年前出版的历史书提到中国饿死3000万
,也可以贴出来。
以前我也找了一些1960年代美国中情局的机密文件,当然现在都解密了,同样也只字未
提中国有大饥荒(famine)或者饿死数百万人。用的... 阅读全帖
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该书对大饥荒的描述既不详实,也不学术;叙事天马行空,数据难觅出处。过度渲染饥
荒恐怖,却不顾这些事情曾在中国历史上多次重复。
It is not a comprehensive account of the famine; it is
dismissive of academic work on the topic; it is weak on context and
unreliable with data; and it fails to note that many of the horrors it
describes were recurrent features of Chinese history during the previous
century or so.
Grada, C. O. 2011. Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most
Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962. Population and Development Review, 37(1)
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