k***e
发帖数: 1931 | 1 微软中国自从2009年那次经济危机之后，好项目基本上都被redmond拿回去了，慢慢ATC
都拆完了，张宏江变成光杆，于是跑了；接着ARD从MSR那条线摘下来，从report给克雷
格氓弟变成了挂在devdiv那个阿三骚马塞旮下面，且不说一个CVP汇报给另一个CVP，产
品上整个ARD和devdiv又不是上下级关系，只是行政上挂着，不伦不类，ARD内部张亚勤
又不管实际产品，仅仅是行政上管管做个样子处理一下对外事务，实际上归他管理的也
就只有operation，等于是个半退休状态，年富力强还没到退休的时候，他应该是早就
想走了，加上换了新老大萨提亚对印度肯定要倾斜，作为ARD的老大review一定吃亏，
眼看着手下张宏江，萧圣璇一个一个都跑了，他此时不走更待何时？ |
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p****e
发帖数: 3548 | 2 诺基亚中国市场渠道崩盘 代理商拒绝进货
http://money.163.com/11/0815/08/7BG0Q527002526O3.html
8月4日，权威市场研究公司IDC发布的最新数据给了诺基亚当头一棒：今年二季度，苹
果公司占据全球智能机市场19.1%的份额，完成了对传统手机霸主诺基亚(15.7%)的历史
性超越。
这份报告击溃了诺基亚股东的侥幸心理。此前几天，另一家名气较小的市场调研机构
Strategy Analytics已经宣布了更糟糕的消息：刚刚过去的今年二季度，诺基亚的智能
手机出货量只占据全球市场份额的15%，不仅落后于苹果的19%，甚至不如三星的18%。
虽然市场早已普遍认同一二名换位只是时间问题，谁也没有想到会这么快。
根据IDC的报告，今年一季度诺基亚智能手机还有24.3%的市场份额，但到二季度出货量
仅有1670万部，比去年同期下滑30.4%。伴随而来的是诺基亚两年来的第二次季度亏损
，当季净亏损3.68亿欧元(约合33.59亿人民币)。
更令人意外的是：导致诺基亚迅速“退位”的转折性因素，竟出自被诺基亚上下一致视
为“中流砥柱”的中国。7月20日诺基亚... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 3
The issue is not about Win8. It is about the right web platform for
future. DevDiv had it in SilverLight web plug-in but WinDiv pulled the
strings from behind to gut it in favor of the Javascript junk that even
Google - biggest JS supporter until lately - is now abandoning.
SilverLight as a rich web app solution is dead not b/c of lack of tech
merit but backstabbing from WinDev. MSFT is the last fool still taking
Javascript junk as the central piece of the cross-platform solution.
Btw C++ is se... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 4
If you go to the Build website you won't even find "SilverLight" in the
tag-list. I've got my SL knowledge 1st-hand from the Dev team so I know
the true state while what you guys are hearing is clearly PR.
You don't need to 吸引 JS developer by killing SL as a web plug-in, and
that's a disaster from day 1 and even more so now that Google is simply
vindicating what DevDiv has been saying about HTML/JS. |
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b*****y
发帖数: 44 | 7 她在上海的那段时间搞得上海devdiv都跑去美国了。 |
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n*w
发帖数: 3393 | 8 下面这段话是真的吗？
The new Windows API is unmanaged because the leaders in the Windows teams (
and Office team, whose former leader –Sinofsky- is now the president of the
Windows and Windows Live Division) had no part in the design and
distribution of .NET, never promoted it in any way, and its popularity is
actually a threat to their personal careers (imagine: if .NET became an even
bigger success, that could likely put its designers and contributors -like
Scott Guthrie- ahead of people like Steven Sin... 阅读全帖 |
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d*******n
发帖数: 263 | 9 上海主要是：SQL，Windows Server，DevDiv（不晓得在做什么），Commercial以及一
个CCIC云计算中心。 |
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e*********e
发帖数: 2175 | 10 还有cloud tools, 这次有没有被impact? 那块儿是Satya的亲军了。 |
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h*********n
发帖数: 1002 | 11 肯定告诉你也被影响，已知有dev和pm
还有cloud tools, 这次有没有被impact? 那块儿是Satya的亲军了。 |
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h*******e
发帖数: 125 | 13 八月份要去onsite VS组，看样子是不是没啥意思了。 |
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z******1
发帖数: 70 | 14 必然有影响，楼下C++组今天走了8个，我们组光我知道的走了5个 |
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d*******n
发帖数: 263 | 15 我看不出微软现有产品怎么搞，呼声最大的无非就是全功能的Office for iPad，除了
这个呢？Windows/Windows Phone for mac/iphone？不可能；C+E的那几个产品（
Server，System Center系列，DevDiv的各种开发工具和.NET，Azure），基本上都和
mac/iphone没什么太大关系，Skype/Lync？已经有了；Bing？也有了；剩下只能是MSR
弄点小软件在Mac/iPhone上玩玩了。 |
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 16 C+E是org，不是组，现在azure那边升的快？devdiv有些人卡很多年，一个是机会少，
一个是老板不待见。 |
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 17 不能理解3G终端的典型例证，是诺基亚对iPhone革命性的多点触控界面和App Store全
新商业模式的后知后觉。DevDiv移动开发者论坛创办人吴学友回忆说，直到触屏界面已
经成为主流的2010年，诺基亚还向开发者发了一封邮件称“调查显示，市场上有20%的
用户表示永远不会用触屏手机”。
另一位开发者回忆，2009年诺基亚S60 500手机发布前，诺基亚对前往参加培训的开发
者说，“等到今年冬天iPhone的投诉率会非常高，因为大家都戴手套，不能使用电容触
摸屏。我们预计明年它的销售量会因此迅速下降。” |
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s***o
发帖数: 2191 | 18 摘要：windows team won the political war. they would rather use crap than
anything from the devdiv.
你们公司招不招entry level java developer? 我要去应聘 |
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s***o
发帖数: 2191 | 22 It's true and it's part of the reason why Sinofsky hates .NET and DevDiv
so
much.
Now in Windows 8, the WinRT has a lot of .NET features, and the new C++/CX
has reflection, event, delegate, property, intellisense, ......, But they
are not .NET and C#, both are "native".
The Longhorn dream comes true, just with a different approach. |
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n*w
发帖数: 3393 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: nkw (非死非活), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 关于微软的winrt
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 21 17:51:40 2012, 美东)
下面这段话是真的吗？
The new Windows API is unmanaged because the leaders in the Windows teams (
and Office team, whose former leader –Sinofsky- is now the president of the
Windows and Windows Live Division) had no part in the design and
distribution of .NET, never promoted it in any way, and its popularity is
actually a threat to their personal careers (imagine: if .NET became an even
bigge... 阅读全帖 |
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