Y****e
发帖数: 68 | 1 一个经常往返中美两地的美国朋友写的关于藏独事件的思考，我觉得很中肯。可能有点
长，我分开贴，谢谢大家的耐心。稍后如果有时间，我也会写写自己的看法。
OK... so I have tried to stay away from the Tibet issue as much as possible
because, in general, I hate getting involved in political debate of any
nature, but after waking up this morning and seeing 30 <3 China's on my MSN,
I realize a time has come for a statement!
Before I begin... please realize that I am trying to be as objective as
possible in how I have looked at the situation. I have been born and raised
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Y****e
发帖数: 68 | 2 4) "Tibet Was, Is, and Always Will Be a Part of China"
Chinese friends, in your conquest of internet forums, please come up with a
more creative slogan than this. Westerners will laugh at it. This argument
is completely based on the Chinese thought process. In many Westerners'
minds, even if Tibet 'is' and 'was' a part of China, this does not
inherently imply it should be China's forever. In your debating, please
work harder on convincing people why Tibet should STAY a part of China and
what |
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 3 不知道你们注意到没有，竟然参与到debate当中，当场反驳罗姆尼的说法，让罗姆尼相
当尴尬。 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 193 | 4 The North Carolina debate, which would be hosted by CBS News and moderated
by Katie Couric and Bob Schieffer, is scheduled for April 19th. The location
has not been determined. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 327 | 5 Hillary has accepted ABC's invitation to debate Sen. Obama in Philadelphia
on April 16.
On Saturday, Hillary will march in St. Patrick's Day parades in Pittsburgh
and Scranton, Pennsylvania. |
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l****s
发帖数: 113 | 6 教授是民主党，这些天和我讨论大选问题来着。看debate的时候正好他来信提起大选，
就一边看一边回了。
Dear xxxx,
Thanks for sharing the Palin video. Yes, one thing on which I am suspicious
of Saran Palin, besides those of her cultural conservative ideas, is her
pale experience on foreign policy. However, I don't think she is worse, in
the sense of being more inexperienced, than Obama in that area. And maybe
she is even better than him - at least she has not yet showed any naivety
nor inconsistency, in spite of her inexperience, with regard to
i |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 7 And therein lies the justification for the AWOL WI Senate Democrats to be on
the lam in Illinois abandoning their constituents and thus not allowing any
debate in that chamber on the budget:
So much for the democratic process from the Democratic Party! This is simply
not going to end well for the government unions. Speaking of: Union Member
Writes "Obituary" for Unions |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 by Andrew
We could, after all, still pay interest on the debt if we don’t raise the
ceiling. Nick Gillespie for Reason Magazine gives the top three reasons this
whole debate is ridiculous: |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 9 这个分明是republican candidates debating with msm liberal hosts.
lol...
裁判员上场踢球,liberals最爱干的... |
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B******m
发帖数: 2643 | 10 第一个印象，那个主持人相当傻逼，自我感觉良好，最后讲一半直接打断perry说节目
没有时间了，perry讲了没有20秒，如果这样还不如不让他讲，而且多次提醒候选人没
有时间了，态度很蛮横。中间bachman要求补充关于虐待战俘的问题，似乎触怒了他，
以后基本不给bachman机会。然后说gingrich讲的不一样，一副小人得志的样子，ego巨
大，抢戏，很让人烦。
Cain基本是个外交白痴，被问到Pakistan是friend or foe，直接回答：I don't know
。弄得全场爆笑，这个问题Santorum回答的最好，我们必须跟巴基斯坦是friend，因为
他们有核武器，即使巴基斯坦里面有人反对我们 ，我们也得fight against adversity
，就像虽然拉登是沙特人，我们也得跟沙特合作一样。
Perry回答最搞笑，对每个国家的aid直接从0 dollar起步，如果不按照我们的要求办就
不给了。结果twitter上的观众很尖锐，那以色列也从0开始么？他犹豫了一下说：也是
，当然我们相信像以色列这么特殊的朋友肯定可以每年得到一大笔钱。基本上他就是一
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发帖数: 1697 | 11 Bachman 前几场下来就已经没戏了。这场连主持人都欺负她，可见她的地位。
Cain 的真正职业是motivational speaker. 所以他也就是在这里搞PR，为自己将来出
书，上电视，搞专场讲演积累资本。他自己也知道没戏。不过他最近的SEXUAL
HARRASSMENT 把民主党的攻击点吸引到自己身上，让ROMNEY可以安心搞ＴＯＷＮ ＨＡ
ＬＬ，算是为GOP牺牲一把，做出了一点真正的贡献吧。
HUNTSMAN的强项就是外交。他说的确实靠谱，不过他也知道赢不了初选，也算是赔站为
党效力吧。
ＲＯＮPAUL是职业陪选员，说的比唱得都好听。谁要真押宝在他身上就输面可就大了。
PERRY横空出世，爆了一个大大的德州风格的烟花，在空中画出了一宏伟的S和一个B。
然后，就没有然后了。腹黑一下，虽然我知道政客的口音都是故意做出来的，但我真的
不太喜欢他的 口音。
Speaker G 是最聪明最有辩才的 政客，听他debate是一种享受。可惜他老兄也是能说
不能做的人，以至于几十年的政治生涯下来baggage多于成绩。到大选的时候随便挑一
个出来都够GOP喝一壶的。（比如 GOP说OBA... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 76 | 12 有可能，他肯定是有顾虑的。不过也表现得太不自信了。Perry被攻击illegal
immigration in-state tuition的时候，其实民调没受影响。他是屡次表现欠佳（我一
开始以为他没有为debate准备而已，后来发现他的确是反应慢，语速慢，在重大问题上
欠考虑），积累下来的印象太差了，民调下降的。
Perry的poll掉下来，应该是从他抢Romney的话那次开始的。 |
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l******x
发帖数: 1697 | 14 haha. good point
but the only good debator on dem's side is H cliton, and he is making her
running around working hard like a chicken. |
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l*****g
发帖数: 2731 | 15 这个他无所谓,他的铁票是吃福利的,debate对这些人没有影响. |
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d****n
发帖数: 10034 | 16 Sarah Palin was very good actually when debating with Biden. |
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t*******f
发帖数: 795 | 17 Romney debate is extremely BAD! Romney has Bad Behavior. |
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t*******f
发帖数: 795 | 18 Debate Poll: Obama 68%, Romney 32% |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 19 by Jeff Graham
Mitt Romney staunched the bleeding and got some big mo, while the
President stumbled and mumbled through 90 minutes at the first Presidential
Debate held in Denver.
There were no zingers, but Mr. Romney was on point, aggressive and
engaged...President Obama held back to the point of seeming annoyed at being
on stage with the challenger some thought was destined for defeat....
There is a lot of campaigning in the next five weeks but it is clear
the pendulum has mov... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 22 Ryan wins 3/4 post-debate polls and the media pronounces Biden the winner.
Seems about right. |
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t****v
发帖数: 9235 | 23 黄茶袋为什么不贴这段
Overall the poll, conducted for CBS 5 by the firm SurveyUSA, found 48%
believed Biden clearly won the debate, 41% felt Ryan won and 10% said
neither won. In addition, 53% said Biden is ready to be president, if needed
, while 46% thought Ryan is ready.You need to download the latest version of
flash player to use this playerNeed Help?Looking just at the reaction of
independent voters, Biden and Ryan battled to an effective draw: 44% Biden,
42% Ryan. Looking just at moderates, Biden wa... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 24 By Patrick Goodenough
October 12, 2012
(CNSNews.com) – When it comes to foreign policy portions of Thursday night
’s debate, both Vice President Joe Biden and Republican challenger Rep.
Paul Ryan made assertions that were not strictly accurate. Among them:
IRAN
Biden: “Iran is more isolated today than when we took office. It was on the
ascendancy when we took office. It is totally isolated.”
Biden: “The ayatollah … [presumably supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei]
sees the world for the first t... 阅读全帖 |
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j*********d
发帖数: 1137 | 25 debate的观感：奥巴马的话，不管对不对行不行的通，比如新能源我觉得远水解不了近
渴，但至少他说的是自己信的。
Romney这厮人说话人前一套人后一套。怎么能忽悠怎么说，丝毫不顾及being
consistent。我肯定很多话他自己都不信。
简单说几个例子。
Romeny: On day one, I will label China a currency manipulator
一个商人，能不明白“label China a currency manipulator”引爆中美trade war的
后果。先不管，能骗多少红脖子算多少。
Romney: I care 100%. 前天关门跟自己的精英朋友掏心窝粪土47%，今天一脸诚恳当要
让世界充满爱的狼外婆。其实有担当一点承认自己相信社会达尔文，更值得尊重些。
Romney: The top 5% of taxpayers will continue to pay 60% of the income tax
the nation collects. And meanwhile reduce tax on middle class. 这... 阅读全帖 |
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n****l
发帖数: 15 | 26 Some suggestions for Romney after watching last night’s debate:
1. President Bush’s legacy: will only be judged by history, stand up for
his character (like not blaming problems for previous president, engaging
the wars at time most people approved on, not kicking the crisis down the
road) Never bad mouth the former boss (interview 101).
2. Fairness of 14% tax rate: election is not about who pays higher tax
rate, is about who has better chance to lead the country for meaningful
recovery. P... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********p
发帖数: 272 | 27 from a post
Obama's 10 Point Debate Highlights:
1. Blame Bush.
2. Call Romney a liar.
3. Plead and pander to women.
4. Call Romney a liar
5. Eyeball Candy Crowley for help.
6. Continue to lie.
7. Call Romney a liar
8. Call on Candy Crowley for help.
9. Plead and pander to women
10. Attack and lie in closing remarks. |
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发帖数: 48111 | 29 这个不好说。 但是评价一下， 最后的主题被拉到mitten的表述了。
辩论转成为，mitten的个人表述， 成功与否取决于支持他的选民更多或者反对他的选
民更多。
08ma主要是在PA, 对自己的表述不够， 即使少量表述， 也都被用过去4年没有进步，
加州太阳能公司的default, mitten在麻州的教育成功经历所牵扯。
debate的成败在于赞同mitten的人多还是反对他的人多。 08马今晚基本就是酱油了。
点评几点， 08ma应该是想mitten to war来frighten老美。 不过mitten在外交上虽然
tough但是还是claim要peace. 08ma在强调mitten要增加军费上比较着重和成功， 但是
被mitten充分阐述， 他的horses & bayonet反例虽然比较浅薄但是应该比较能讨好无
脑小年轻。 mitten的军费增加必要性阐述不清楚。
在教师， 教师工会， medicare交给state上面， mitten的阐述比较合理， 虽然很多
话没说清楚， 但是更合理。 08ma只有一点， 更多老师， 更小size class有助于提高
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 30 我觉得这样子已经是Romney胜利了，Foreign Policy Debate对没有执政经验和内幕的
很不利 |
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G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 31 I found a secret about the debate.
There is NO topic about the police system.
Isn't this an important topic? |
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K********y
发帖数: 5068 | 32 看看如下一些有智慧网友的评论也很赞
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: Trump今晚的战斗力太强了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 17 00:48:04 2015, 美东)
Trump - Natural,
Cruz - motivated
Carly - very boring, over scripted
Rubio - Used car salesman
Christie - Bada Bing
Carson - Doctor with syringe
Huckabee - from Fox show Huckabee
Paul - King from Colorado
Jeb - Go and apologize to my wife , what a moron !!
Kaisch - Already sat on Airforce One, - Retire him also.
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发信人: be... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 33 Hillary did a great job. But Sanders won the debate. |
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f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 34 trust me, you are wrong.
I dont even need to debate with you on this.
tonight |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 35 尤其bush会带头，这家伙已经desperate，cruz会添油加醋，trump只要站住了，就不会
失大分。
对cruz，只要他birther被问到，基本就输了，无论trump或其他人怎么回答，因为会有
更多的人知道他是在canada生的，知道最近才denounce，就看他如何自救，要是能把自
己变成受害者，变成是民主党的阴谋，也许会少失分。
在trump是不是保守，是不是内奸的问题，估计不会影响太大，因为只要指明，只有
trump现在在打老太太，而且一打就打到七寸了。
debate应该很好看。 |
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C******e
发帖数: 905 | 36 请问Debate几点开始，在哪个频道能看到？Basic cable可以吗？ |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 37 TRUMP一个最近的采访，TRUMP还在那里卖外交政策的关子。讲不可预测性。诚恳地说我
不能告诉你。告诉你敌人也就知道了。
这个不去debate也太bold了。 |
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l******r
发帖数: 544 | 38 Chris 应该是被 trump 赢过来的左营一员， 从debate interview, 后来拍 citizen
trump 可以看出来。 |
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发帖数: 4150 | 39 I've watched all 6 in the past, and I've witnessed Trump winning all of them.
Let's see the ratings of Foxnews debate, this time without Trump. |
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发帖数: 1 | 40 我也不看. Trump不在，就不接地气。
更何况Fox News 和 Google邀请了一个仇恨Trump的穆斯林。
Fox News and Google have invited three YouTube personalities to ask
questions at the Jan. 28 GOP debate — including a Muslim advocate who
describes Donald Trump as a bigot and who visually portrayed him as being in
agreement with national socialist Adolf Hitler.
“We have a presidential candidate whose loudest message reeks of hatred and
Islamophobia… turning on the news now is scary, and oftentimes,
humiliating,” the Muslim woman, Nabela... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******o
发帖数: 608 | 41 剩下这帮职业政客，确实没兴趣再看debate了。Fox真是丧心病狂 |
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m********g
发帖数: 10469 | 42 CNN's Jeffrey Lord Praises Trump Skipping Fox Debate Comparing Him To Reagan
Leaving Negotiations With Soviets
JOHN BERMAN (HOST): Jeffrey, what about that? There are going to be
these other people on stage, I guess seven other candidates on stage. Won't
they just be taking pot shots for two hours at Donald Trump, and Donald
Trump not giving any response?
JEFFREY LORD: They're, you know, pygmies here at this stage. You know I'
ll tell you, John, exactly what this reminds me of is when Ro... 阅读全帖 |
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m********g
发帖数: 10469 | 43 咱还是要等明晚看，不死心哈。TRUMP这么多场合都没被搞倒，实际上次他回答梅根回
答得很妙，一片掌声。我不相信他会怕回答梅根问题。克露子都被揍变形了，更不用提
。FOX另外两个主持都是他BUDDY更不是问题。TRUMP气场很足，上次有记者搞他被他压
得.实际上弄回子上台完全是给TRUMP送分
咱知道每到一段关键时刻，他就要调动媒体替他免费宣传，这点这次又成功了。但不去
DEBATE对IOWA选民的任何负面反应，他真这么捏的住？输一票他就是输,克露子这POLL
又开始上来. 我希望不是那么简单. |
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s********t
发帖数: 4150 | 44 What is the debate site? |
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m********g
发帖数: 10469 | 45 可能不只是debate.卢比欧的票是传统温和派的票，几个城市区，这要是到了东北部投
票，床铺会有很强力的挑战。 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 46 对。他出现在debate,最大好处就是其他人都要围着他转，很难出彩。他不出席，让
rubio一马当先，跳出来了。rubio一旦出来，就很难打压下去了。 |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 47 如果megyn kelly又主持的话？
megyn出场的可能性很大。她上次准备了一堆trump的录像，没用上。
下次trump要是憋不住，再去参加fox主持的debate，要准备好应付一些让自己无言以对
的录像了。 |
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M**********n
发帖数: 4964 | 48 有link吗？
是不是我记错了，找不到。
FEB. 6, 2016
Republican debate – ABC News/IJReview |
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n*****e
发帖数: 473 | 49 It was hard for me to imagine that Trump being a leader of this country due
to his character and temperament. Last night's debate, he locked everyone
into the metal cage, rip off everyone's clothes and reveal their true colors
. It was interesting and painful at same time to watch, I was actually
amazed by the fact that he has the guts to say the truth, got even stronger
when facing challenges. DC is desperately needing some serious changes.
Though i am still undecided, but no longer rule out Tr... 阅读全帖 |
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r****p
发帖数: 480 | 50 In an interview with "Face the Nation" after the debate, Trump said, "I am
not blaming [President Bush], although...the CIA said there was a lot of
information that something like that was going to happen. I'm not blaming
anybody. It's a tragedy." He called it "worse than Pearl Harbor because you'
re talking about civilians.
"Now, could he have done something about it? His CIA knew about things
happening... but when Jeb gets up and says, we were safe under his brother,
we weren't safe," Trump ad... 阅读全帖 |
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