k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 1 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 返璞归真 从conceal佩枪角度说, 同样4寸多点枪管长度的M&P full size比glock 19要好conceal
一些, 套管尾巴那里不会凸得很明显
但是呢, 格洛克又有baby glock, 比m&p compact又要小一些
所以总的来说,两个model半斤八两吧
Glock那样需要适应。 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 3 你说的没错，不过那是练习，有没有conceal garment随你，我是穿着上班衣服去的。
还有IDPA classification也不需要conceal garment。
正式比赛还是要有正式的"shoot me" vest:) |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 4 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 请推荐枪套 先要想好准备如何佩枪。
最最常用的是strong side，佩戴方式一般为OWB(outside waist band)和IWB(inside
waist band)，OWB舒服，IWB更隐蔽。佩戴位置一般为3点到4点半为止，肚脐正前方作
为12点位置。
OWB可以有belt loop, clip, Tek-lok, paddle等挂在皮带上的方式。IWB可以有belt
loop, C-clip, J-clip, V (Velcro) clip等，各有带上脱下容易程度和隐蔽程度不同
等优缺点。
还有一种使用较多的是appendix carry，也就是在1点半到2点的位置，好处是更隐蔽，
坐着时也舒适，出枪更快，但有一个严重缺点就是收枪时万一走火自己就基本交待了。
虽然这样，很多那枪干活的还是愿意采用这种佩枪方式，就是为了出枪快。appendix
carry几乎全是IWB。
其它佩戴方式如weak side，shoulder holster, small of back等现在使用的非常少，
也没有比上面两种佩枪方式有明显的优势。
除了佩戴方式，接下来就是枪套材料，无非就是真皮和Kydex... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 5 楼主装备不错啊，打不好会有压力的哦，这也是我建议新手先上IDPA的另一个原因，省
钱:)
IDPA是以concealed carry为出发点的，枪套，弹闸套都要适合concealed carry。你买
回来了不去比赛作为CCW也可以，或者反过来，拿着现成CCW的一套就可以参加IDPA。
IDPA允许的在USPSA基本都没问题(IDPA CDP的点四五枪不一定能上USPSA的single
stack)，反过来完全不是。IDPA的一套再加几个弹闸套去USPSA产品组不算很吃亏。
IDPA的创立就是因为看不惯USPSA/IPSC过分追求器材而自立门派，不过我倒不这么认为
，两个都喜欢，两者实际上都是体育项目，对于熟练操枪和射击绝对有用，但都不能照
搬到实战。 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 6 是的，不止一个州这样。这下不下车也可以搞些名堂，还有嘛就是一些州open carry进
了车自动算concealed carry，另一些州则不算。美国各州的枪支法烦着呢。
不过中文同样是学校，school和college是有区别的。school gun free zone是联邦定
的，college里各州说了算。
还有搞笑的，有的州school不让concealed carry(坐车里不算)，但有CCW的人可以在
school open carry。不过我看也没人敢，不是给自己找不痛快嘛，谁想接了孩子出来
给警察几十条枪指着。
possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle
operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other
person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the
vehicle is on... 阅读全帖 |
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y*****n
发帖数: 11251 | 7 最后这个是没办法的。听上个月一个talk show说的。中部某些州宪法规定人本州内有
carry 枪的权力。
然后出了个法禁止在school zone conceal carry。但是不能把open carry和conceal都
禁了，因为违反宪法。
the |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 8 回了，查收。
这个算magpul手枪DVD里用的raven concealment套子的山寨版，不过这套子材料和厚度
完全一样，成型好的话比raven concealment的便宜多了，等的时间应该也短。 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 9 Guns And Ammo杂志总结了3个主要原因：
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/02/13/why-gun-sales-are-on-the-
Shooting’s New Positive Media Image
Popular mainstream television programs about guns and shooting, such as Top
Shot, are sparking viewer interest in the sport. While the competitive and
informational aspects of these shows are entertaining, the programs also
disprove many of the negative stereotypes surrounding gun ownership. As a
result, many first-time shooters are making their way to the range.
An Attit... 阅读全帖 |
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H******S
发帖数: 6011 | 10 因为电影里拍的都上警察或罪犯,一般不conceal,我们要conceal,木有办法. |
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 11 能conceal的左轮也就是2吋左右的，4吋6吋的都不太好conceal. 要是你只放在家，那
倒没关系。可以试试四吋管的。 |
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n****u
发帖数: 1200 | 12 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 小白求指导 The concealed handgun manual : how to choose, carry, and shoot a gun in self
defense
Author: Bird Chris
Title: The concealed handgun manual : how to choose, carry, and shoot a
gun in self defense / Chris Bird.
Edition: 5th ed.
Publisher, Date: San Antonio, Tex. : Privateer Publications, c2008.
Description: xiv, 522 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
Subject: Pistols. Pistol shooting. Self-defense. Gun control -- United
States. Includes bibliographical references (p. 509-511) and index.
ISBN:... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 13 很长的一篇文章，探讨了一些拥枪方面的话题:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0311/Gun-nation-Insid
......
"Around kids, guns are scary, but jogging on the greenway at night? That's a
different story," says Ms. Frickman.
In that way, the two women represent a new, largely pro-gun demographic. A
majority of married women support the right to carry a concealed weapon in
America, while single women, on the whole, do not. Overall, 85 percent of
Americans support the right to keep and bear arms, according to a sur... 阅读全帖 |
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n****e
发帖数: 6292 | 14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_Handgun_License
A No-Issue jurisdiction is one that--with very limited exceptions--does not
allow any private citizen to carry a concealed handgun in public. The term
refers to the fact that no concealed carry permits will be issued (or
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 15 查到P2000的几种枪机：
P2000:
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the hammer and centrally located decocking lever for firing in the DA/SA mode.
P2000 V1:
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the hammer, with a constant trigger pull (Combat Defense Action/LEM trigger of 20 Newtons) from the first shot to the last, without decocking.
P2000 V2:
Like P2000 V1, however LEM/CDA trigger pull 7.3 pounds (32.5 Newtons).
P2000 V3:
Conventional... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 16 concealed cocking piece应该就是LEM/CDA，上膛时里面张开外面击锤不动，扣扳机时
再轻松张开外击锤释放那个concealed cocking piece去带动击锤。
LEM理论上和decock及外保险都不冲突，也有人用LEM+外保险，但LEM+decok好像没见过
。LEM decock后第一枪相当于传统的重双动。 |
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b***u
发帖数: 12010 | 17 我研究的结论是，只有公民能把手枪锁车的盒子里。
http://www.vrolyk.org/guns/alien-laws.html
California:
With a few exceptions, California forbids having a "concealable" firearm in
a vehicle. One of the most signifigant exceptions, however, does not apply
to non-citizens! The exception is that it's legal to have a handgun in
vehicle if it's locked in the trunk or is in some other locked container.
But, as I said, this exception only applies to citizens. Non-citizens can't
transport their handguns in their cars unless the... 阅读全帖 |
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k****i
发帖数: 838 | 18 材料都寄出了两个星期了，还是这个状态，正常吗？
License Status: Application processed online. Concealed Handgun Licensing is
waiting on the receipt of required materials. Once the application and
materials have been received by Concealed Handgun Licensing and processing
has begun, a more detailed status will appear on this page. |
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p**********6
发帖数: 19 | 19 自从买了枪以后一直是自己戳靶纸，打水瓶。感觉没有进步，最近看到在佛吉尼亚的
Culpeper有手枪家防培训课。这个课安排在周末两天，头半天上课讲解，后面一天半都
在靶场上实践。我打算去学习一次，有愿意同去的没有？
下面是网址：版上有去过的没有？
http://www.fpftraining.com/ccsd.html
Course Purpose:
CCSD is designed to prepare average citizens to apply lethal force to
protect themselves and others from criminal violence. I emphasize mental
preparation around the principles of awareness, conflict avoidance, and de-
escalation and post-incident actions. Students will learn weapon
manipulation and acquire practical sho... 阅读全帖 |
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b***u
发帖数: 12010 | 20 查了下精华区和相关法规，总结下有几点：
1. h1有猎证可以买枪
2. 有handgun certificate可以买手枪
3. 非公民在加州不能在车里放concealed firearm，就是不能锁盒里。
恶心的就是第三点，车里不能放就意味着基本没法拿去枪场了，只能在家里防身。精华
区买到手枪几个不知道是怎么操作。
那个法律写的挺奇怪，直说concealed gun怎么怎么非法。有个law firm网站解释说，
没有藏起来就不能定罪。当然我是不敢冒险把枪挂挡风玻璃上之类的。
谁了解？h1能弄手枪么？ |
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b***u
发帖数: 12010 | 21 http://www.vrolyk.org/guns/alien-laws.html
California:
With a few exceptions, California forbids having a "concealable" firearm in
a vehicle. One of the most signifigant exceptions, however, does not apply
to non-citizens! The exception is that it's legal to have a handgun in
vehicle if it's locked in the trunk or is in some other locked container.
But, as I said, this exception only applies to citizens. Non-citizens can't
transport their handguns in their cars unless they fall under one of the
... 阅读全帖 |
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k*****u
发帖数: 578 | 22 It is very easy to get a conceal carry permit at Indiana, just go to the
police department neighboring to the post office on N. Salisbury Street at
West Lafayette and tell them that you want to get a life-time conceal carry
permit for personal protection. You need to bring your green card. |
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 23 my lc9 hasn't had any failure so far.
the accuracy you got is sufficient. this gun is for concealed carry or
backup. it's not designed to shoot someone from far away.
why did you buy this gun, if not for concealed carry? |
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D*****t
发帖数: 1303 | 25
哦，简单查了一下，多数情况在国家公园似乎可以open carry，当然有外州的CCW的话
也可以concealed carry。。。
比如yellowstone:
http://www.nps.gov/yell/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm
WYOMING:
Open Carry Allowed
Handgun = Yes
Rifle = Yes
In Vehicle = Yes
Age Requirement = None
Concealed Carry Allowed - Permit Required for Non-Residents
Person = Yes
Vehicle = Yes
State Reciprocity = 23 states
Age Requirement = 21 years of age |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 26 CCW在不少州有两个作用，一个是conceal carry，一个是取代背景调查。
一般来说，认同外州的CCW，仅仅是认同conceal carry，并不认同取代所在州法定的背
景调查。 |
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O*******e
发帖数: 6055 | 27 古狗了一下，很多不推荐17c。。。唯一减少的是枪口上跳，后坐力没有变化，据说会
影响夜间射击的视线，burn front sight，还会降低子弹的威力，因为漏气，对于9mm
本来威力就不怎么大的枪，据说不值。。。。而且如果用靠近身体姿势射击，会烧伤自
己。
结论是17c只适合rangge，不适合self defense。咋整。。。。
不过适合你，因为你打比赛，因为唯一的好处是下一发射击比较容易控制，因为枪口上
跳小。
“Definition of the Models
According to Glock, the model 17 is the most widely used law enforcement
pistol in the world. It is a double-action, polymer framed pistol that holds
up to 17 rounds, a large amount for a pistol. The 17c model incorporates a
compensated barrel, which is the main... 阅读全帖 |
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s****r
发帖数: 31686 | 28 State California allows for concealed carry of the folding knives and there
is no limit to the blade length. As long as the knife is not banned by PC
16100-17360 or in Part 6/Title 3/Division 5, it is legal. Division 6 of the
same title bans knuckles, division 7 bans nunchakus and so on. 17235 does
not make Assisted Openers(AO) illegal. However, depending on the particular
AO mechanism and other details some AOs may fall under switchblade category.
Kershaw Speed Safe is not one of them, it is pe... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 29 防弹衣基本两种用途：conceal carry以及战斗
1. Conceal carry. 主要目的是防手枪弹，一般Level II或者III-A。比较流行的材料
有两种：
1a. 100% "WOVEN" p-aramid, 可以是kevlar，也可以是twaron，这些材料久经考验，
虽然号称有保质期，实际如果不是天天揉来揉去，只是偶尔穿穿，寿命几乎无限
1b. "LAMINATED" aramid，比如gold flex, 一般更轻薄，但是耐用性差，可以晒坏，
接触射击靠枪口高温可以击穿。
考虑到用途，我觉着level II更适合CCW，更容易穿出去，被击中虽然可能会受伤，最
重要的是不会挂掉。当然，这东西穿上巨热，一年只有冬天几个月可以穿出去，而且
进入室内很尴尬。
2. 战斗防弹衣. 主要目的是可以预知枪战的时候穿上，可以level III或者IV(这两个
标准不是IV绝对比III好，各有不同)。这种比较适合固定地点家防，买可以装防弹板的
战术背心(carrier)，需要的时候可以快速往身上一挂，所有弹夹和备用手枪都穿戴整
齐了。主要材料有陶瓷，钢板，塑料板等等，五花八门，总... 阅读全帖 |
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o**d
发帖数: 3080 | 30 我上课的那家，现在有3周年的deal。
如果有兴趣的可以考虑：
Hi Everybody!
I hope that you have received your concealed handgun license from DPS or you
are in the process of applying for your license through DPS. We are
celebrating our 3 year anniversary at San Jac CHL and we are extending a
special for your friends and family, so please forward this to anyone who
you think would take advantage of this special!
New Licenses: $60!
Renewal Licenses: $50!
Free Gun Rental!
Free Coffee All Day!
Free Snacks All Day!
Help us celeb... 阅读全帖 |
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c****x
发帖数: 1270 | 31 Possibly the only topic to generate more arguments than politics is the
never-ending discussion of what qualifies as the “best” home-defense gun.
The truth of the matter is, no single shooting solution meets the needs of
every individual or household. Every firearm is an exercise in compromise.
Each platform has limitations to be considered carefully when making a
choice.
Many firearms can be useful for a variety of applications, such as target
shooting, hunting and concealed carry, as well as p... 阅读全帖 |
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P*****J
发帖数: 1745 | 32 CZ还是太小众了，holster不太好找，找到几个厂家说是能用的，但是用户review说也
不太合适。版上用SP-01 Tactical的大虾给推荐个枪套吧。我就是为了concealed
carry，concealment,retension和舒适性是最主要的。谢谢啦！ |
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O**e
发帖数: 246 | 33 Concealed carry 被 pull over 以后正确的做法是跟警察先打招呼，然后告诉他/她自
己有concealed carry permit并且carrying. 等警察进一步指示后出示证件等等。不要
一看到警察就急火火得掏东西...
CHL |
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P****D
发帖数: 11146 | 34 这个问题太大了，如果你按理工科Ph.D分析问题的思路去想，“落入坏人之手”是指被
偶然入室的小偷碰巧偷走？被强人抢走？被从靶场跟踪到你家的大盗偷走？被无知孩子
拿出去玩然后被坏人骗走？……那这题你可以写一篇论文了。CCW考试并不是这个目的。
你就简单地写，在家里对枪支弹药要妥为保管在隐秘可靠处，在carry时，concealed就
是要concealed，要穿合适的衣物以免在无意中露出枪，更不能故意拿出来瞎招摇，就
得了。 |
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f***a
发帖数: 1434 | 35 当年在FL没有搞一个utah的CCW，因为FL不承认非utah居民的CCW。
现在搬到utah来了，CCW不发给F1了。
极度后悔中。
++++++++++++++++++++++++
update: F1 也可以申CCW。
没有报希望地发了个信问问，结果大出意料，居然可以。
k***********[email protected]; on behalf of; dpsfirearms dps
Yes if, you pass a background check. The permit will not be valid for the
normal five years that we issue but will only be valid until the expiration
date of your visa if it expires in less than five years.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:16 AM, "Me" wrote:
Hello,
I have a question about ... 阅读全帖 |
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f***a
发帖数: 1434 | 36 没有报希望地发了个信问问，结果大出意料，居然可以。
k***********[email protected]; on behalf of; dpsfirearms dps
Yes if, you pass a background check. The permit will not be valid for the
normal five years that we issue but will only be valid until the expiration
date of your visa if it expires in less than five years.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:16 AM, "Me" wrote:
Hello,
I have a question about the concealed firearm permit. Can an international
student in Utah (holding F1 visa) get a concealed firearm perm... 阅读全帖 |
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d**********g
发帖数: 2014 | 37 我喜欢9mm，用开花弹力量也够了。
Glock G26 Sub-Compact: Haggle Price $500-$530
Polymer frame. Weight: 19.8 oz., Barrel: 3.50", Magazine: 10 rounds
The Glock 26 was specially developed for concealed carry. The G26 is a good
backup companion pistol for those that carry the full size 9mm Glock. There
are tons of accessories and holster choices for the Glock 26. The most
popular police backup pistol of all time.
Diamondback DB9: Haggle Price $350-$380
Polymer frame. Weight: 11.0 oz., Barrel: 3.00", Magazine: 6 rou... 阅读全帖 |
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d****d
发帖数: 699 | 38 http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=812c9186a81db6434329bda16&i
Joseph Fernandez thankful CGF was there to help, considers legal options
against Los Angeles County Sheriff
On October 8, 2012, Joseph Fernandez was driving normally down Hawthorn Blvd
. when a Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy pulled him over, alleging that he
stopped to warn Fernandez that there was an unknown object hanging from the
rear view mirror and that the vehicle was allegedly straddling lanes, both
violations of the Vehic... 阅读全帖 |
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S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 39 Since i can't CCW here in california I never thought about pocket guns or
even compact guns. Maybe one day I can, so I began to look for something
easy to conceal and easy to shoot.
My dream pocket gun would be a Chiappa Rhino 20DS in 357 magnum.
Why? there is no muzzle flip. The grip and the frame are exactly the same as
the full size model's. This snub nose simply does not compromise
controlability for concealability. And the fact that all .357 mag revolvers
can chamber the cheap .38 spl is an... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 40 Teachers flock to gun courses as gun-violence debate heats up
Free gun courses aimed at teachers and school administrators in Utah, Texas,
North Carolina and Ohio have attracted hundreds of applicants in the wake
of the shootings at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
The classes provide gun training and a concealed carry license for those who
qualify. Gerard Valentino, a co-founder of the Buckeye Firearms advocacy
group in Ohio, said more than 900 teachers and administrators have signed up
t... 阅读全帖 |
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t****t
发帖数: 610 | 41 According to http://www.texasgunlaws.org/
Pistols must be concealed; loaded or unloaded does not matter.
Long guns do not need to be concealed. They can be loaded or unloaded.
Pistols and long guns can be placed within reach.
However, the person may not be engaged in criminal activity, and also may
not be a member of “Criminal Street Gang.”
I read related gun laws from government website and what listed on this
website seems to be correct.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.... 阅读全帖 |
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 42 版大，这个可以发吗？如果不和版规，请删贴。
Virginia: Senate and House Committees Take Action on Several Firearm-Related
Bills
The Senate Courts of Justice Committee and the House Militia, Police
and Public Safety Subcommittee recently held meetings on several bills of
importance to Virginia gun owners, sportsmen and supporters of the Second
Amendment.At 8:00 a.m. on Friday, January 18 the Senate Courts of
Justice Committee heard many bills of interest to the NRA.
Action occurred on the f... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 43 On April 27, 1995, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) spoke at the US Senate
hearing on terrorism shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing.
During the hearing, she referenced her concealed carry permit and how she
carried a gun with her in the 1970's, citing the urge to arm yourself for
protection- in her case from threats.
She stated:
"I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm
yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I walked to
the hospital when m... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 44 【 以下文字转载自 Arizona 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: Arizona
标 题: Arizona: House Committee Votes to Advance Two NRA-Backed Bills
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 21 17:48:34 2013, 美东)
The Arizona House Public Safety, Military and Regulatory Affairs Committee
passed two NRA-backed reforms yesterday afternoon. In a 6 to 1 vote
, this committee approved House Bill 2234
, introduced by Representative David Stevens (R-14), which would revise the
definition of “firearm” to conform to federal law.
Also, House Bill 2... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 45 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - CCW 你那老师有木有看帖不仔细，呵呵。没带枪时不需要说。
An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol who is stopped by a
police officer (traffic stop or otherwise) while in possession of a pistol
shall immediately disclose to the police officer that he or she is carrying
a concealed pistol either on their person or in their motor vehicle.
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10941-- |
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b*******y
发帖数: 4304 | 46 Beyond guilt or innocence, the case against Florida murder suspect George
Zimmerman will undoubtedly leave him broke.
The controversial concealed handgun license holder made headlines last
spring when he claimed he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in self-defense
during a violent scuffle. Zimmerman hasn’t worked in the year since the
shooting and faces a mountain of debt to avoid a possible 25 years to life
in prison.
“He’s going through $1 million of costs, and his life is being destroyed
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r*******1
发帖数: 4394 | 47 赞！
我稍微补充一下田纳西的吧 （主要是我关心的一些条款），可能有理解不对的地方，
具体要参考这个文件：http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf （updated 12-14-2012）
1. TN 承认所有其它州的permit
2. 有 ccw 也不能去的地方：任何属于学校的地方：教学楼，停车场，操场 （如果只
是接送小朋友可以放在车里; 如果你自己是学生，即便有ccw也不可以放在车上），市
政拥有的地方（比如playground，civic center）。business building （比如电影院
，上班的公司）上贴着“no gun”sign 并且标注“AS AUTHORIZED BY T.C.A. §39-17
-1359, POSSESSION OF A WEAPON ON POSTED PROPERTY OR IN A POSTED BUILDING IS
PROHIBITED AND IS A CRIMINAL OFFEN SE.”
3. 有ccw可以去提供酒精饮料的餐馆，但是不能喝酒。
4. 没有ccw，在车里不能... 阅读全帖 |
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k**o
发帖数: 85 | 48 就我自己来讲，
1）打猎
2）家防
第一种情况，本州的规定是只要city limit以外，打猎时concealed carry无需任何
permit
第二种情况，更加没必要，不解释
那么平时ccw的目的？带枪去shopping mall？当英雄？还是为了显得manly一些(，不过
是conceal呀,OPEN CARRY明显更MANLY,本人也不喜行为艺术，自己喜欢枪但从不在不玩
枪的面前谈枪的事
下面说说坏处
申请CCW那一刻，就等于在警局注了册，任何时候被pullover，条子一调你的档案，立
刻警报音加大红旗出现在屏幕上
本人一向不惮以最坏的恶意来预测美国警察的行为，这种情况你被无辜打死的几率大大
增加了，条子杀人是不需要借口的 |
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 49 德州法律说的必须是'intentionally fail to conceal'才算违法
如果print，形状明显，算fail to conceal，但是要被起诉定罪，控方必须有证据"
intentionally" |
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 50 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm#46.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally
, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the
handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
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(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and
Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242
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