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z****g
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顶。
学生为了作文拿高分编造“名人名言”也是中国特色吧。
大家说说中小学作文都爱用什么谚语或名人名言?现在觉得羞愧么?
z****g
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教了这些你让铲党怎么忽悠自己的合法性?
铲党用中国近代100年历史来论证自己合法性的理论里大量使用逻辑谬误。教学生识别
逻辑谬误不是自己掌嘴么。

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有道理
d******n
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quote,xxxxxxx
这样的不要太多
z****g
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差远了。如果把美国文化在这方面换成中国的,但是语言和陈词滥调的知识不变,那所
有写美国和法律相关问题的文章都会以“第一件事是杀掉所有律师”开头或结尾。
a****i
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举反例证伪一般是用于批判另外一个人的文章用的,但是批判别人的论证,其实并不代
表就证明了自己的论点。
比喻或者类比除非完全一样,否则根本无法用来做论证,除非你对事件的概率有过统计
,否则你无法知道在比喻事件发生后的被比喻事件发生的条件概率到底改变了多少,因
此你无法得出“恰当使用的话至少能加强论点”这个结论。
比如鲁迅的“论费尔泼赖应该缓行”,他首先讽刺林语堂的“费尔泼赖应该实行”的论
证过程,但是就算推翻了林语堂的论证过程,也无法证明费尔泼赖应该缓行。
再比如鲁迅通篇论证“落水狗”怎么该打,但是落水狗和人是一样的吗?既然不一样,
那么他论证了半天落水狗怎么应该打,对论点的论证其实毫无意义。就算落水狗和人有
些相似之处,但是相关系数到底是多少,落水狗该打能让“人”该打的条件概率升高多
少?都是完全不可知的。
所谓议论文几乎就是一坨屎。至于你说中国文化出来的人半本能认为谚语有极高的价值
,你的论证过程似乎也是漏洞百出。
我把我自己的文章定义成“说明文”,因为我突然觉得所谓“议论文”很难写好。

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一篇中国经典论述文章都没读过就来这里丢人现眼,你是把论坛吵架当论据了吧。
z****g
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b****n
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来自主题: Military版 - 孟德斯鸠 说过
你犯错误了,你知不知道?菌斑这两天正在批判cliche.
z****g
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华人的问题是没有美感
http://www.weiming.info/zhuti/Military/43963429/
老中的第二大问题 -- Amoral Familism
https://www.gjczz.com/p/4SHcpDW3/lao-zhong-de-di-er-da-wen-ti-amoral-
familism/
垃圾中国人最大的问题
http://www.gjczz.com/p/YypvAr9L/la-ji-zhong-guo-ren-zui-da-de-wen-ti/
中国文化的问题是虚伪/装-新角度
https://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/47686765.html
中国文化的缺陷之一是把cliche当论证
https://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/47942319.html
比那本《丑陋的中国人》不差吧?

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cliche
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - (“Apple”
OPEN LETTER FROM JANA PARTNERS AND CALSTRS TO APPLE INC.
https://thinkdifferentlyaboutkids.com/
January 6, 2018
Board of Directors
Apple Inc.
1 Infinite Loop
Cupertino, California 95014
Ladies & Gentlemen,
JANA Partners LLC and the California State Teachers’ Retirement System (“
we” or “us”) collectively own approximately $2 billion in value of shares
of Apple Inc. (“Apple” or “you”). As shareholders, we recognize your
unique role in the history of innovation and the fact that Apple is one of
t... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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来自主题: Military版 - 这个排名还算公允
https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/ranking-the-united-states-of-america
-from-best-to-worst
Seeing how we’ve already danced with state rankings involving food/drink
and beer, we thought it was time to use the perfectly American cliche “go
big or go home” and rank the states based on everything. More specifically,
their contributions to America, so think inventions, food/drink, somewhat
productive famous people, unique physical beauty, etc.

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来自主题: Military版 - 这是我以前的帖子
我终于开始接触并认识一些菌斑的真人。。
那个tsd太让我失望了。。。。
他的问题是:
1)太多cliche了。。
2)很固执
3)很冷血
4)完全是fixed mindset..
今天我和凤歌把tsd slaughter了。。

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来自主题: Military版 - 这是我以前的帖子
在哪里撕逼?
[在 CornucopiaX (VE  RI  TAS) 的大作中提到:]
:我终于开始接触并认识一些菌斑的真人。。
:那个tsd太让我失望了。。。。
:他的问题是:
:1)太多cliche了。。
:今天我和凤歌把tsd slaughter了。。
t**x
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来自主题: Military版 - “Blue Line”
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from
media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and
have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are
saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you
knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified
by the LAPD and the media. Unfor... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 孩子们都那么守规矩又有出息
我上个星期对着黑人说: there is a cliche in Chinese community: black are
lazy....
我现在还活得好好的,没有bullet in my head。。。哈哈哈。。我厉害吧。
l**a
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看起来他现在还是比18年前强不少
18年前,他也是车轱辘一样说那些Humanrights的cliche
人权发展不足限制消费增长。。。干脆说人权不足影响身体健康算了

have

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你这套是用烂了的低级趣味cliché,这种带回家让老妈看到会高兴得合不拢嘴的漂亮
体贴空姐肯定听粗俗乘客这样hit on her听出老茧了
s******r
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What Happens if a Navy Aircraft Carrier Is Sunk?
Are carriers too big to fail?
by Henry Holst
Are carriers too big to fail? If so, U.S. policymakers need to break
themselves from the assumption that carriers are the end product of the
evolution of naval technology. The United States must maintain its
leadership role in military innovation; not fall into the age-old trap of
other great powers by absconding modernization and relying instead on time-
tested dogma and tradition. In the future our ca... 阅读全帖
M******a
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http://cn.nytimes.com/opinion/20181203/china-rise-series-declining-economy/dual/
The Real China Challenge: Managing Its Decline
BRET STEPHENS
2018年12月3日
中国杭州,阿里巴巴集团园区内的雕塑。
Bryan Denton for The New York Times
In 2009, The Economist wrote about an up-and-coming global power: Brazil.
Its economy, the magazine suggested, would soon overtake that of France or
the U.K. as the world’s fifth largest. Sao Paulo would be the world’s
fifth-richest city. Vast new reserves of offshore oil would provide an ad... 阅读全帖
z****g
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在美国受教育的都知道,写文章不鼓励引用名人名言,尤其是不鼓励引用已经是cliche
的名人名言。
跟老中的教育截然相反,老中的文章恨不得开头结尾都是名人名言。
所以美国人能思考,老中不行。
L**********g
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老中教授作报告也喜欢搞段名人名言

cliche

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cliche这个词没有信达雅对应的中文词
W*****B
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这个是纯粹的cliche。就是用来骗人的一套说辞。
c***r
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cliche
a***a
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来自主题: Olympics版 - 我们为啥要支持刘翔
Re这个...
当然我也不能说是"无所谓", 不过我大概没有那么爱之深责之切吧 LOL
只是觉得有些人应该想想自己有什么立场在这judge得满口唾沫乱飞的.
不过这话题真该歇了,其实有正经观点的大家解释半天依然是谁也说服不了谁,说也白说
.倒是有些人挺享受借机露脸的, 用一两句恶骂扣两个帽子就能挑拨得硝烟四起.这么搞
下去没完啦.
总之至少一段时间内支持刘翔的还是会支持(比如我), 不爽刘翔的还是会不爽, 可能只
好cliche一把,说留待历史评说吧.
D**S
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"When it comes to fighting for what's right, New Yorkers wrote the book,"
This is very well said. I hope NY state will again live up to its own
standards. It is not a cliche when the governor said NY state has been on
the right side of history but it is now high time to make this claim even
more true. In contrast, many states of this nation probably can never say
with decency that they have been on the "right side of history" as far as
civil rights are concerned. Some states are historically jus... 阅读全帖
D**S
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 纽约今夜无人入睡
Wish I was there!
I know this sounds a cliche, but it is THE HISTORIC MOMENT!
D**S
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - GOProud demands apology from Santorum
Santorum claimed that the repeal of DADT is a "social experimentation" that
the military should not be engaged in. What a smart way of saying the same
old cliche!
D**S
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Is being heterosexual a life style and hence a choice, too?
Cliche like yours is so old and lacking basic logic that you cannot convince
anybody,even the homophobes.
erdos (大宗师) 的大作中提到: 】
: is a life style choice - a gay is a gay because he chooses to
D**S
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It is a cliche for Americans to call their country "the beacon of the free
world". In fact, I suspect that as far as LGBT issues are concerned, the U.S
. is nearly backwards when compared with many other industrialized countries
. There are simply too many people whose minds are basically not much better
than nuts.
V****t
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来自主题: RuralChina版 - 大家贴贴家乡的环境污染吧
楼上朋友的Q友说"最近几年比以前好多了,而且欧洲美洲也是经历过疯狂污染的阶段",挺有意思。这种辩词太常见了太便宜了(现在据说更贬至五分了)也是很悲哀的事。由此,较真去争论其中许多逻辑谬误(例如"thought-terminating cliché", "incomplete comparison", "two wrongs make a right","red herring", 不一而足),或者感叹政府obscurantism宣传以致人民普遍乡愿,大概都不会有什么用了。
如果更多的人能够参与调查证据收集数据广为周知,或者有望促使改变早日发生。
a**********s
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来自主题: USANews版 - Bill v. Barack on Banks
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122282635048992995.html
Bill v. Barack on Banks
Clinton instructs Obama on finance and Phil Gramm.
A running cliché of the political left and the press corps these days is
that our current financial problems all flow from Congress's 1999 decision
to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 that separated commercial and
investment banking. Barack Obama has been selling this line every day. Bill
Clinton signed that "deregulation" bill into law, and he knows better.
In
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - STOPPING THE OBAMA SURGE
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Published on DickMorris.com
on January 24, 2011
All the public opinion polls now confirm that President Obama has moved up
sharply and significantly in popularity and job approval since he began to
tack toward the center after the November election. Rasmussen and Zogby
both have him over 50% job approval for the first time in almost a year.
The key event was his high-minded speech in the aftermath of the Tucson
shootings and his clear separation from the blame-or... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Mary Beth White
In 1977, newly married and certain that my new spouse could do no wrong, I
willingly followed him into an adventure of Tennessee farming. I was a city
girl, but my new husband said we were going to raise sheep, cattle, and
horses, make tons of money, and live happily ever after. Because of the
politics of the day, the Farmers Home Administration had taken on several
newly developed loan projects and low-income families like us were given a
rosy scenario of cheap money for ch... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - The Great Charade
The spenders are negotiating among themselves how much debt they’re going
to burden you with.
There is something surreal and unnerving about the so-called “debt ceiling
” negotiations staggering on in Washington. In the real world, negotiations
on an increase in one’s debt limit are conducted between the borrower and
the lender. Only in Washington is a debt increase negotiated between two
groups of borrowers.
Actually, it’s more accurate to call them two groups of spenders. On the
one side are O... 阅读全帖
l******a
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A cliche, but:
What do we expect from a Kenyan crook?
d*****u
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看来Romney不是很靠谱,就知道重复些cliche讨好美国无脑阶层
Bachmann还是照旧说些火星话
Gingrich说2015(?)年中国沿海地区的制造成本将高于美国阿拉巴马等地
不知是否有根据
B**W
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ANKENY, Iowa — It was four years ago that Ross Witt, a soft-spoken
electrical engineer at John Deere, overcame his natural discomfort with
knocking on hundreds of his neighbors’ doors during dinnertime as a
precinct coordinator for Ron Paul’s campaign.
But when Mr. Paul dropped out of the national race in June 2008, Mr. Witt
did not stop, because, in a sense, neither did Mr. Paul: Mr. Witt and many
other supporters here joined the Iowa branch of an independent political
group Mr. Paul establishe... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - The Sinking of the West
Abe Greenwald of Commentary magazine tweets:
Is there any chance that Mark Steyn won’t use the Italian captain
fleeing the sinking ship as the lead metaphor in a column on EU collapse?
Oh, dear. You’ve got to get up early in the morning to beat me to
civilizational-collapse metaphors. Been there, done that. See page 185 of my
most recent book, where I contrast the orderly, dignified, and moving
behavior of those on the Titanic (the ship, not the mendacious Hollywood
blockbuster) with that ma... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Robert Weissberg
How are we to understand the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement? Is it, as
many on the left insist, a commendable reaction to "obscene" inequalities in
wealth? Or is it, as according to the right, a union-financed, thinly
disguised Obama-supported ruse to stir up egalitarian envy? Both
interpretations are partially valid, but let me offer a different take, and
one that links OWS to countless similar political outcroppings that have
flourished since the 1960s.
My descriptor ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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May 4, 2012 by Michael Laprarie
It’s been a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week for the beleaguered
Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren. So naturally it’s time
for me to beat up on her some more.
First off, Warren’s recently-released tax returns inadvertently revealed
how she really feels about taxes. Warren and incumbent Scott Brown both
released four years of tax returns in response to a request from the Boston
Globe. For most of the period, the earnings of Warren and h... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Killing Them Softly
By Jed Babbin on 6.4.12 @ 6:08AM
Obama's "kill list" tactic is assuredly doing nothing to win the war on
terror.
Between December 7, 1941, and September 2, 1945, a clarity of thought and
purpose pervaded America. We understood who our enemies were and undertook
as a nation to bring about their utter defeat. After September 1945, that
clarity was dulled in Korea and by the midpoint of the Vietnam War it had
disappeared altogether.
We never had that clarity after the war that was brought to our ho... 阅读全帖
l****z
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The Rise of One-Party States
States are increasingly dominated by one side or the other, so voters’
choices will be clear.
By Michael Barone
In Washington, Americans have two-party government, with a Democratic
president and Senate and a Republican House. We had it before November’s
election and will have it again for the next two years.
Looking back from 2014, we will have had two-party government for most of
the preceding two decades: for six years of Bill Clinton’s presidency,
three-and-a-hal... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - The Politics of Gun Control
by Jed Babbin
The Newtown, Connecticut massacre of children has changed the gun control
debate to an extent no other event has in decades. One of the reasons it has
had such an effect is that it came at the time when liberals are at the
height of their power and conservatives — and Republicans — are at their
lowest ebb. It also came at a time when the maneuvers between House Speaker
John Boehner and President Obama over solving the “fiscal cliff” crisis
fell apart, leaving Boehner severely weake... 阅读全帖
S*********g
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From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from
media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and
have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are
saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you
knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified
by the LAPD and the media. Unfor... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - What’s to Like? by Ben Stein
Tuesday I try very hard to like Barack Obama. And sometimes he helps me out
. For example, at the beginning of his State of the Union address yesterday,
he made what seemed to me to be some sense about the budget. And he offered
excellent free advice to the GOP. Why, he asked, should we hamstring all of
our other attempts to work on the budget crisis because some of the GOP are
trying to protect the tax breaks of the very richest among us? Why is the
GOP going to the mat to defend the richest p... 阅读全帖
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - 说没通货膨胀真是不要脸
“决策”? 不就是price control么? 有必要这么羞羞答答的涂脂抹粉么?
“你要质疑别人的数据又没有自己的算法,这就叫胡扯”
有必要扯这种老掉牙的cliche么?不会做菜,就不能当美食家质疑厨子?不会写作,就
不能当评论家质疑作家?
t**********3
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Louisiana State Senator Elbert Gullory — formerly a Democra — made a
surprising and enthusiastic announcement. The African-American Senator is
walking away from the Democrats to join the GOP. After making the
announcement, Sen. Gullory released this video explaining his unique
decision.
“I’m Elbert Lee Guillory, the senator for the 24th district right here in
beautiful Louisiana. Recently I made what many are referring to as a bold
decision to switch my party affiliation to the Republican Party... 阅读全帖
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