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s*********8
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KABUL (Reuters) - In Afghanistan, if NATO forces kill a member of your
family, it is better in terms of money if they come from Germany or Italy
than the United States or Britain.
In the cold calculation of how much to pay for victims of the decade-old war
, British forces have doled out as little as $210, while German forces have
paid as much as $25,000, according to a study by the human rights NGO CIVIC.
Civilian casualties caused by NATO forces hunting insurgents are a major
source of frictio... 阅读全帖
F1
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who cares about the truth, even if Trayvon is innocent, he will be a
collateral damage, or casualty of war (on thugs). his death may be
sympathized but Zimmerman should not be charged, period.
F1
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来自主题: Military版 - 有没有必要对zimmerman上刑?
who cares about the truth, even if Trayvon is innocent, he will be a
collateral damage, or casualty of war (on thugs). his death may be
sympathized but Zimmerman should not be charged, period.
M*****8
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http://structuralevolution.org/blog/2010/03/01/iatrogenic-death
It’s estimated that 100,000-200,000 Americans are killed each year by
hospitals, doctors and/or drugs. These deaths are labeled iatrogenic deaths
(doctor caused). These numbers are grossly understated and this chart above
breaks down all the different deaths and tallies the real number. Each study
is cited so double check for yourself. So the number of iatrogenic deaths
is more like 783,000 Americans. ... 阅读全帖
d******a
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grasswalker (饭后百步走) 于 (Sun Apr 1 00:29:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个很奇妙啊
一个月几千块钱的多了去了,别人都该抢银行去了?
别跟我说啥多少年教育,妈的街上要饭的还有发过science的呢
国内大学毕业,硕士毕业不如狗的多了去了,怎么医生们不拿高薪就可以昧着良心?
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ibmgoog (终极winner米帝万岁) 于 (Sun Apr 1 00:50:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
你也是民运老将了
你不明白么?
这个世界,各个行业都捏着把刀,每个行业的人都试图磨刀霍霍从别人那里砍下一块属
于自己的肉
医生,律师,法院,政府,都是要害
他们往这儿偏一偏,对过路人都是要命的事情
你想想,如果你要被开膛破肚了,你有胆对医生讨价还价么?你还想不想活了? 你是
想术后1年恢复呢?还是留个终身病根? 你跟医生打官司?你打得起么? 人体很复杂
的,有些人就可以1年恢复,有... 阅读全帖
s**********e
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来自主题: Military版 - 看看美国历史的上甘岭
official casualty numers:
UN: 9k
CCF: 11k -- 12k
y****i
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Re: Sino-Vietnam war in 1979
I think the main reason for Chinese did not continue from Lang Son was
casualties. Before main Chinese army came to Lang Son, all other force
already retreat back to form a last line of defense around Hanoi. However,
it took few days for Chinese main army to have complete control over Lang
Son due to population resistance there. There's a story on Wiki, i'm not
sure if that one is truth. One pregnant woman carried bomb and threw herself
at China tank when they came i... 阅读全帖
h*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - 驳反禁抢者谬论
The key here is carrying gun is not allowed in the theater. If some one
carried one, the casualties wouldn't be this high. Better yet, if gun is
allowed in the theater, the gunman would have thought twice before going in
there.
S*********y
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Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
By Jason Sickles, Yahoo! | The Lookout
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie house
early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had apparently
been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops, and
through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition," Aurora
Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
The suspect, 24-year-old former... 阅读全帖
j****0
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Ok, US side, killed + wounded + missed, is 10,000
chinese source 19000,
un source 30000
still 2 to 3 times casualties
a***e
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in a battle, it not matters what casualties is,
it only matters if you hold your ground.
it is a hard win. no question about it.
otherwise USSR lost WWII already, so is china.
r*****y
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there is difference between fight-soldiers and non-fighting soldiers, most
casualties happened on fight-soldiers. and the ratio of fight-soldiers is
surprisingly low comparing to the total, we had a debate on this topic for
soviet-german war.

know
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r*****y
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according to US military history, they didn't lose in the eastern battle,
but make pla suffered heavy casualties. 3 pla divisions disappeared after
the battle and the whole 9th army group lost combat capability.
o****y
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来自主题: Military版 - 北京这次很肯能死了不止37个
The local goverment should increase the casualty number to ask the central
government funding ah.
a****n
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One comment:
This is one of the more well-reasoned articles on the subject. The Diaoyu/
Senkaku islands are a relic of Japan's imperialist period. Unfortunately,
while there was closure to WWII in Europe, in the Far East the issue is far
from settled. Japan has never expressed sincerity in apologizing for its
brutal rampage thru China from 1937-1945 which resulted in an estimated 30
million Chinese casualties and tremendous suffering for the Chinese
civilians. After the war China repatriated t... 阅读全帖
s**********e
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苏军把生病跟战斗负伤放到一起统计。而被俘应该是跟阵亡一起列入不可弥补的损失一
栏。
苏联解体后出版的Soviet Casualties And Combat Losses(总编是Krivosheev上将)
,里面有大量苏联在各次战争和战役里面的详细伤亡数字,应该是最为权威的一本书。
这书已经翻译成英文了,可以买到。
德国方面的数字反倒比较混乱,有些战役到现在也没有比较统一的说法。
朱的书应该是国内最详尽的苏德战争的书了吧?

tag
b********n
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In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julian-assange/wikileaks-bradley-
Two Years of Cablegate as Bradley Manning Testifies for the First Time
Julian Assange.
Editor-in-Chief and Founder, WikiLeaks
Thursday, November 29th, Bradley Manning testified for the first time since
his arrest two and a half years ago in Baghdad. Today also marks the two-
year anniversary of the first front pages around the world from Cabl... 阅读全帖
D**S
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What is wrong with blaming the lousy construction quality of those school
buildings for the massive casualty?
Does it matter if it was U.S. media or Chinese media?
Your mindset is really seriously fucked up.
q*****l
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数据来源wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Iraq Body Count project 105,052–114,731 civilian deaths as a result of the
conflict. Over 162,000 civilian and combatant deaths[1][2]
The October 2004 Lancet study[188] done by public health experts from Johns
Hopkins University and published on October 29, 2004, in The Lancet medical
journal, estimated that 100,000 "excess" Iraqi deaths from all causes had
occurred since the U.S. invasion began. The study did not attempt to measu... 阅读全帖
W****g
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来自主题: Military版 - 警察真不是人当的
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Some of the police officers who responded to the
school shooting in Newtown are so traumatized they haven't been working, but
they have to use sick time and could soon be at risk of going without a
paycheck, a union official said Wednesday.
The union, Council 15 of the American Federation of State, County and
Municipal Employees, is seeking more generous assistance in talks with the
town's insurer. It is also reaching out to lawmakers and the governor's
office with proposa... 阅读全帖
R****a
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印巴开火中国一万大军开进克什米尔
发帖者:米坛老兵
发帖时间:2013-01-06 18:02
印巴互指对方越境袭击 美媒:事件性质近年罕见
据美联社1月6日报道,巴基斯坦与印度于当地时间5日互指对方越过双方军队在克什米
尔地区的边界线进行袭击。巴基斯坦称,印度对巴境内的一家边境哨所进行越境袭击,
导致一名士兵死亡。而印度方面则称印度军队之所以向巴开火是出于对巴向印度开火并
炸毁一所民居的回击。 米尔网 www.miercn.com
巴基斯坦军方公共关系办公室称,印度于5日发布的袭击还使另外一名巴基斯坦士兵严
重受伤。
巴军方称,在印度越过“实控线”对巴基斯坦的一个哨所进行袭击后,印巴双方军队仍
在交火。
www.miercn.com 爱国交流理性平台
资料图:克什米尔
www.miercn.com 爱国交流理性平台
资料图:巴基斯坦陆军
克什米尔区的印度军方发言人潘迪(Col. Brijesh Pandey)表示,巴基斯坦军队于5日
早间向印度哨所“无故先行开火”,并发射迫击炮和自动武器。他说,巴基斯坦的炮弹
袭击炸毁了印度境内的一所民居。
潘迪说:“我们只是使用了轻武器进行回击。我... 阅读全帖
d**********i
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来自主题: Military版 - 还是茉莉花们牛逼,六亲不认的
里面有鬼子。希拉里又该忙活了。
ALGIERS, Algeria The hostage situation in an Algerian natural gas complex
appeared to reach a dangerous crescendo Thursday, with Islamic militants
claiming that Algerian helicopter attacks left 35 hostages and 15 captors
dead, according to the Associated Press.
Islamists with the Masked Brigade, who have been speaking through a
Mauritanian news outlet, said according to the AP that seven hostages were
still alive Thursday, including three Belgians, two Americans, a Briton and
a J... 阅读全帖
s***d
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也正因如此,现场发现的遇难者中多数是因为坠桥身亡而不是因为爆炸身亡。
the logic is consequence cause more casualty?
s**********w
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Q: Did you expect Chinese nationalists to attack your credibility?
This caught me totally by surprise. I thought maybe there would be some
negative grumblings, but I never expected anything like this.
Q: How do you explain the intensity of the attacks against you?
Forbes did an interview with me, and Forbes translated that interview in
Chinese. The translation had some errors in there. … But what really
happened is the Forbes article comes one day after The New York Times broke
the story about t... 阅读全帖
n*****8
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老方说过他不在乎副品是否受伤害,他的目的是和西方媒体叫板吗?
Fu Ping:"He even said in his second or third posting, he said, “I don’t
care about Ping being the casualty, what I’m going after is Western Media.
” So he mobilized a lot of people to assault every media outlet that’s
here.”
:)
s**i
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A shameless women who has succeed in business. The book does full of lies.
She lied many times in media. People have a reason to look down on her.
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Melissa M
People can have memory problem on some details that happened 20-40 years ago
, but it is... 阅读全帖
b********n
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2013/03/19/cnn-asks-if-
A CNN headline during Tuesday's 11 a.m. hour of Newsroom asked, "Should Bush
officials be tried for war crimes?" CNN legal analyst Lisa Bloom argued
that the U.S. should submit to the jurisdiction of the International
Criminal Court for the mass murder of Iraqis that far exceeded the 9/11
atrocities.
Bloom downplayed the 9/11 terror attacks in the face of the Iraq War. When
anchor Ashleigh Banfield noted that America responded to 9/... 阅读全帖
a******g
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来自主题: Military版 - 可能60~70人挂了,100多受伤
Fire officials fear that the number of casualties could rise much higher --
as many as 60 to 70 dead, said Dr. George Smith, the emergency management
system director of the city.
目前只确认死了2个。
G**L
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来自主题: Military版 - 搜狐说德州爆炸死了60-70个
casualty包括伤的不都是死。国内媒体英文也太差
d****o
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来自主题: Military版 - 搜狐说德州爆炸死了60-70个
我看评论好像老美也有以为casualty特指死亡人数的
可能是平时新闻里面这个词用得就有这样的倾向性?
l******t
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来自主题: Military版 - 美宣部的标题很含蓄啊
真相:
(CNN) -- A massive explosion at a fertilizer plant in the small Texas town
of West left at least two people dead, leveled several homes and prompted a
widescale evacuation in the community of 2,600 people.
Fire officials fear that the number of casualties could rise much higher --
as many as 60 to 70 dead, said Dr. George Smith, the emergency management
system director of the city.
r***n
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http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/grad-student-killed-in-blasts/
This story will be updated throughout the day.
One of the victims killed by blasts at the Boston Marathon on Monday has
been identified as a Boston University graduate student.
Lu Lingzi (GRS’15), a graduate student in mathematics and statistics, was
one of three friends who watched the race near the finish line. Another of
the three students, Danling Zhou (MET’14), was injured, and is in stable
condition at Boston Medical Center.
Rober... 阅读全帖
j***d
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而这个成功,之所以没有能够在后来的几十年在中国以及世界得到复制,也是有一些原
因的。简单的说呢,就是三条。
Totally bullsh!t
There were at least two bigger quakes in 1976 (Tangshan & Songpan) when Mao
was still in charge and culture revolution prevailed.So they should be held
responsible for the heavy casualties?
g**1
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来自主题: Military版 - 今天7名美军士兵被打死ZT美联社
刚又死了一个,今天8个。
But with the Taliban’s spring offensive now under way, military officials
say they are expecting the militants to increase the use of the tactic.
The eighth casualty occurred in an attack in northern Afghanistan, Captain
Einert said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/world/asia/blast-kills-7-sold
o****y
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North Korea also had a lot of casualties.
w********t
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来自主题: Military版 - 美国媒体说埃及是massacre了么?

Cairo massacre: Scores killed and hundreds more injured as Egyptian
government declares war on the country's Islamists
As machine gun fire crackled around the besieged Islamist encampment in
eastern Cairo today, a 12 year-old boy called Omar was sat on a mattress
drinking from his carton of orange juice. Just a few yards away, the bodies
of 31 protesters lay on the grubby, blood-caked floor.
Many had been shot through the head and chest with high velocity bullets;
some bore gnarled lips betrayi... 阅读全帖
A**4
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来自主题: Military版 - 埃及这事儿已经死了525人了
WTF? This was a peaceful protest, wasn't it? It hasn't got into military
conflict yet, isn't it? Compare this with the casualty of civil war is
either ignorant or stupid, though this looks quite like a trigger of one.
d*********2
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来自主题: Military版 - 又一黑孩子惨遭警杀
所以餐馆不好做, 在很多区做餐馆的, casualty比去伊拉克的比例还要高。
防弹玻璃, 下面柜橱里还要藏一把私枪。 这还是做老板的。 送外卖的那就是刀头舔
血。
D*********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 美国华人是条龙? 还是条虫?
Do you really believe these thugs/mobs can kill the Chinese in China???
The Answer is NO!
All these thugs/Mobs can do is to kill all the Chinese Americans in the
streets in USA
The other Asian Americans will suffer a lot because of similarities.
The Chinese Americans and the Asian Americans will be the real casualties of
these genncide/Nazi propaganda. It is extremely dangerous to let the kids,
Americans know that it is OK to kill the Chinese!!!
t*****e
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The train to the Statue of Liberty
On a peaceful morning, I was walking to the train station on Broadway.  
;Blocks away, swift current flows in the Hudson river.  At the end of
the Hudson River,  stands the Statue of Liberty.
On 125st Station, several teachers with tons of children boarded the train.
During chaotic scene, several words could be heard over and over again, "
kill "and ,"Jimmy Kimmel".
When the racket started to dissipate, A black boy who sat beside a
white pass... 阅读全帖
D*********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 被喝咖啡的几个人开始...
Do you really believe these thugs/mobs can kill the Chinese in China???
The Answer is NO!
All these thugs/Mobs can do is to kill the Chinese Americans in the
streets in the USA. The other Asian Americans will suffer a lot because of
similarities.
The Chinese Americans and the Asian Americans will be the real casualties of
these genocide/Nazi propaganda. It is extremely dangerous to let the child/
adult Americans think that it is interesting to kill the Chinese!!!
We must take actions on and blo... 阅读全帖
D*********n
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Do you really believe these thugs/mobs can kill the Chinese in China???
The Answer is NO!
All these thugs/Mobs can do is to kill the Chinese Americans in the
streets in the USA. The other Asian Americans will suffer a lot because of
similarities.
The Chinese Americans and the Asian Americans will be the real casualties of
these genncide/Nazi propaganda. It is extremely dangerous to let the child/
adult Americans think that it is interesting to kill the Chinese!!!
We must take actions on and blo... 阅读全帖
c**e
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根本原因是死的是中国人,所以她只是casualty,而不是victim,美国人民可以很冷静
地讨论这种事情在概率上是合理的。如果死的是美国小姑娘,媒体就可以大肆宣扬受害
人家庭的悲痛,采访她的邻居、老师、幼儿园到高中的同学、家里的猫猫狗狗,议员要
出来讲话、抨击除自己以外的其他“责任人”,然后律师抢着代理官司,家属成立基金
会接受捐款...
从最普世的角度,一个外国黄种小姑娘对美国人来说,也就是比外国动物更像人一点而
已。考虑到她现在已经不会说话了,那就是dead body,和动物彻底没区别了。
t***h
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http://sana.sy/eng/21/2014/01/21/523329.htm
Jan 21, 2014
Damascus, (SANA)-President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to Agence
France Presse. Following is the full text of the interview:
AFP: Mr. President, what do you expect from the Geneva conference?
President Assad: The most basic element, which we continuously refer to, is
that the Geneva Conference should produce clear results with regard to the
fight against terrorism in Syria. In particular, it needs to put pressure on
countries that ar... 阅读全帖
b********n
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"Hillary Clinton, if elected, will take America to war. She will attack
Syria and Iran. This will likely cause casualties among Russian weapons
operators, as Russia sends technicians along with their missile systems.
Thus war with Russia is possible on a sort of tit for tat basis. I tell you
now, and I really believe this, the Clinton Bitch is a crazed war monger,
and she is an Israeli agent. By that I mean she acts with Israels interests
in mind first and only later considers the interests of t... 阅读全帖
H*******s
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r*****y
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你看wiki上的韩国平民伤亡,数据来源是韩国国防部。
"Casualties of Korean War" (in Korean). Ministry of National Defense of
Republic of Korea. Archived from the original on 2013-01-20. Retrieved 14
February 2007.
South Korea: 990,968
373,599 killed[11]
229,625 wounded[11]
387,744 abducted/missing[11]
North Korea: 1,550,000 (est.)[11]
再看看纪念碑上的UN伤亡数字:
Dead — United States: 54,246,[7] United Nations: 628,833[8]
Wounded — United States: 103,284, United Nations: 1,064,453.
Captured — United States: 7,140, United Nations: 92,... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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很多啊。这里是一个当时法国的报道。西方类似的报道很多。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HknrQc231Yk
This conflict in my personal opinion looking like Vietnam (With Russian
Assistance) vs China (With partial US diplomatic support) the causalities in
this conflicts are totally unclear according with the Russians 62,500
Chinese soldiers were killed and Vietnamese causalities were less than 10,
000. According with pro Chinese Internet sites Chinese casualties at about
20,000 to 30,000 while Vietnamese loss at about 40,000 to 60... 阅读全帖
G**Y
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he President of Russia met with media representatives to answer a number of
their questions, in particular with regard to the situation in Ukraine.
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA VLADIMIR PUTIN: Good afternoon, colleagues,
How shall we do this? This is what I’d like to suggest: let’s have a
conversation, rather than an interview. Therefore, I would ask you to begin
by stating all your questions, I will jot them down and try to answer them,
and then we will have a more detailed discussion of the specifics t... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 真要打局部战争
Almost any conflict fought as force on force, conventional warfare, between
NATO and Russia, will be a modernized version of EarthOrbit-Air-Land-Sea-
UnderSea-Battle with networked information centric warfare mixed in.
The key strategic objective would be for return to antebellum_status_quo.
Return to how it was before conflict. That is before Putin invaded Crimea.
It would vital for both sides, to preserve a way for NATO and Russian
leaders/diplomats to communicate with each other, so that host... 阅读全帖
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