f******u
发帖数: 767 | 1 07年民主党参议员的AWB提案中，俗称为“poor man's carbine”，"beatiful ugly"
hi-point步枪名列在其中。是一款物美价廉，可靠实用的plinking，small game
hunting用枪，使用9mm or .40 手枪弹, 厂家提供no-questions-asked, lifetime
guarantee。年初进时才花了150两银子，大概是整个名单中价格最低的。感觉值得向不
打算花大钱，但又手痒的朋友推荐。目前好像价格并没有涨很多，但很难讲是不是有价
无市。另外担心的是新法实施后这生产的小企业还能不能继续生存下去？
按说这hi-point是在90年代AWB实施后设计生产的，已经避开了许多AW的限制。大概仅
仅是因为多年前科伦拜高中血案中的凶犯作案用枪，因此被硬是归入了AW一类实在是有
些非理性。难道说因为维州理工杀人的疯子赵承熙用的是glock就该把glock通通禁了不
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发帖数: 11154 | 2 今天在俺们这里的枪店里看到一把Colt AR-15, $980.
还看到一把Bushmaster 9mm Carbine, $960. |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 3 他们的email newsletter里面：
P7依然是欧洲警察trade-in，酒红色套筒，带一个弹匣，才499啊！
HK P7PSP · 9mm · Plum Slide · 1-8rd Mag · Box ·
Like New Condition
#HKPA $499.99
谁要下手，赶紧啊！！！
还有一个很有意思的，FN FS2000，价钱还和前两年刚进来的时候一样，
不到2k刀——还是带原厂枪瞄的型号。
这个只在枪展上摸过，非常非常顺手；反正无托的东西重心都很爽，结果就是完全体会
不出来是8磅的东西，像传统步枪7磅甚至更轻的感觉。
他原厂瞄具我没有开照明点，所以没啥评价。
FN FS2000 Bullpup Carbine · 223 · 17.4" Barrel · Black Stock ·
1.6X Optical Sight Module · 1-30 AR Mag · New
#FN3835980240 $1972.10
在AR价钱疯长的今天，这些以前觉得贵的东西
（比如SIG 556、XCR、STG-556等等）
现在看起来也不是那么遥远喽…… |
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 5 就是军大衣吧？
“In Korea, all versions of the carbine soon acquired a poor reputation for
jamming in extreme cold weather conditions,[15] eventually traced to
inadequate recoil impulse and weak return springs.[16] A 1951 official U.S.
Army evaluation of scores of individual after-action combat reports noted
the weapon's cold-weather shortcomings, and recorded complaints by troops
for failure to stop heavily-clothed or gear-laden North Korean and Chinese
troops at close range after multiple hits.[16]”
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 6 有可能，因为美军用的.30 carbine FMJ不膨胀不变形。 |
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l*****t
发帖数: 60 | 7
啊，看到了，标签上是carbine。仔细看，这个枪好像连瞄准具都没有，果然是用来扫
射用的。不过好像不是
很贵，如果有钱我也想收藏一把。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 9 nice semi, carbine
要是擦成这样就更牛了 |
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z****c
发帖数: 602 | 11 说得我都要掏钱了，可是我在wisconsin要交税而且想要得是carbine。挣扎中... |
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 12 那就再等等bcm的carbine upper，这个月应该会再放一次货。 |
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x****n
发帖数: 560 | 14 我早就说了，3、40码打hog，买把.40的 Hi-Point carbine就够了 |
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A****r
发帖数: 2746 | 15 I ordered a complete mid length carbine with them a few days ago, was told
it might take 3-6 months. I do not know if I will still have passion for it
by that time. |
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f******u
发帖数: 767 | 22 You may try a ATI replacement stock which will make your "beautiful urgly" a
totally different gun. It costs only 50-60 bucks and easy to install. |
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O**e
发帖数: 246 | 23 I bought the gun with ATI stock in my mind. But after getting it, the
factory look grows on me. I like the way it is now.
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f******u
发帖数: 767 | 24 It is not only for appearence.
The original stock has a pretty rough surface and could "bite" you during
firing. |
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d******e
发帖数: 2541 | 26 TODAY IS FRIDAY 4 / 24 / 2009
LOOK WHAT JUST CAME IN!!!!!
D.P.M.S. AR- 15 SPORTICAL RIFLE
D.P.M.S. AR-15 FLATOP CARBINE. THESE SELL OUT QUICKLY EVERY TIME WE GET A
SMALL BATCH IN. CONSIDERED THE BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR SPENT OF ANY AR
VARIATION RIFLE IN THE COUNTRY. WE JUST RECEIVED 4 AND THEY WILL GO FAST.
COMES WITH EVERYTHING YOU SEE ABOVE.
DPMS-PANTHER-CAR............................................$799.95
DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ONLY HAVE A FEW OF THESE THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR
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w***z
发帖数: 398 | 27 online from AIM, $1549.00 no shipping.
Daniel Defense only have one M4 so far, it is a new gun came out this
year.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Daniel_Defense_.223_5.56_M4_Rifle.htm
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Item#DD-M4
Daniel Defense is proud to announce the unveiling of their long
anticipated M4 Carbine. This Rifle was engineered with the tactical
professional and shooting enthusiast in mind. Built to redefine the
benchmark in small arms performance, this precision-crafted firearm will
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f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 29 最近半年，股市套牢，子弹涨价，去打一次枪都要合计半天，现在店里的子弹都被红脖
子买光了，周末只好在家奔奔枪，来个gun porn YY一下。
第一只枪是RRA LOWER配BCM UPPER和BCM BCG，16 inch chrome lined 1/7 twist, 整
枪较轻，枪管比我的DPMS CARBINE短一点，仍在法律允许的长度内，CMMG的枪管也短一
些，枪还没用过，是我最近装的一只枪，很喜欢这只枪，等试射之后再汇报。
第二只枪是DPMS16寸卡宾，16 inch chrome lined 1/9 twist,这是我的第一只AR15，
当时为了赶时髦，换了很多东西，导致重量增加很多，比第一只枪重很多，现在看来，
已经美学疲劳了，其实只要装个 EOTECH就行了，用EOTECH，５０码有依托，可以达到
２英寸。
第三只枪是RRA lower with 2 stage trigger, bushmaster upper 20'' chrome lined
1/7 twist government profile, BCM bolt carrier group,这只枪我是尽量 |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 30 看来的确现在AR货源足，价钱回归正常了：
WEEKLY GUN SPECIAL!
CALL 800-588-9500 TO ORDER
SPECIAL EXPIRES TUESDAY MAY 26TH @ 7:00PM CST!
Bushmaster A3 Carbine · 16" Heavy Barrel · Retractable Stock ·
Detachable Carry Handle · New
#BUSBCWA3F16 $1099.99
CMMG 4SA · .223 · 16" Heavy Barrel · Mid-Length Fore End ·
Retractable Stock · Carry Handle · Muzzle Brake · New
#CMMG1605LE $899.99
CMMG A3 · .223 · 16.5" Bull Barrel · NO Carry Handle · 6-Postition
Collapsible Stock · Mid-Length Quad Rail · Semi-Auto · New
#CMMGFWASPB |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 31 我记得网上有好多对比的，
midlength vs carbine
就能搜到不少
不是应该ORDER MID-LENGTH的UPPER。请前辈们指点一下二者的优劣吧。谢谢！ |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 32 WEEKLY GUN SPECIAL!
CALL 800-588-9500 TO ORDER
SPECIAL EXPIRES THURSDAY JUNE 11TH @ 7:00PM CST!
AR-15'S
FREE BLACKHAWK SLING #BLA04922 WITH THE PURCHASE OF ANY BUSHMASTER!
Bushmaster M4A1 · 223 · 16" Carbine · 1-30rd Mag · Collapsible Stock ·
Bayo Lug · Fixed Carry Handle
#BUSBCWA1F16M4 $899.99
3 FREE GI 30RD MAGS #$CPRGI30SSB WITH THE PURCHASE OF ANY CMMG
CMMG 4SA · .223 · 16" Heavy Barrel w/Bird Cage · Mid-Length Fore End ·
Retractable Stock · Removable Carry Handle · 1-30rd Mag · Muzzle Brake |
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f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 33 Buy a bullpup stock for sks and install the paratrooper sks.
You will have a nice bullpup carbine. This is the benefit of a paratrooper
sks. |
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k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 35 * Rock River Arms Lower
* National Match Trigger
* 6-position Collapsible Buttstock
* DPMS A3 Low Profile Flattop upper receiver /w T-numbered rail
* DPMS AR15 complete Bolt assembly
* DPMS 16" 1:9 twist 5.56 NATO .93" Steel Bull Chrome-moly Barrel /w M4 Feed ramps
* DPMS .93 Low Profile Picatinny Gas Block
* Full Floating, Carbine Length, Aluminum UTG Quad Rail /w sling mount and
extra rubber UTG rail covers
* 6-9" Extendable and Foldable Rail mount Bipod
* 3-9x50 Barska Scope on High rise Weav |
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 36 嗯，大至几个选择：
罗马尼亚AK74
保加尼亚AK74
Polish Tantal
SAIGA sports carbine
SAIGA 无疑是性价比最高的 |
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k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 37 Smith & Wesson M&P M15 AR15 customized rifle for 799 + tax (TX)+shipping+FFL
16' chrome lined M4 contour barrel
T-dot refelx optical sight
Tatical carbine quad rail handguard
1:9 twist
weighs 6.5 lbs
Plus you'll get 5 PMAG 30rd magazines Free after rebate from Smith & Wesson
Call in to order 800-588-9500 |
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L*******r
发帖数: 8961 | 38 Ruger 10/22.
The American Classis, but based on WWII design, not the cowboy style. Most
places do not charge background check on rifles. Go to Walmart, the cheapest
Ruger 10 22 Carbine. If you take a look around, you can not find a used
Ruger 10 22 for sale. This tells that all the owners are satisfied. |
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L*******r
发帖数: 8961 | 39 Does not matter how high your rifles are, you will need at least one .22LR
rifle if you want to shoot a lot.
I am buying a Ruger 10/22 carbine. Some people say bolt actions are better,
but I feel Ruger is good enough for me, and I like its look and the
traditional wood stock. |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 43 我是对AR 57感兴趣
一则携弹量奇大还不臃肿
二则弹药也不贵，虽说没法和9mm比，但和普通.223 FMJ差不多 |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 46 AR不是可以买个upper，直接装在已有的lower上么 |
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h*******m
发帖数: 253 | 48 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 到货，到货 各位，
小店新近到货：
LMT deferder 2000 cqb mrp
Colt pre ban A2 carbine
xd-9
xd-9 sub
xd-40
xd-45
我们的knight's armament sr-15e3会在本周到货。
有需求请来电话：
703－435－4222
谢谢 |
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M******n
发帖数: 499 | 49 最近大家一片末世情结,备荒备战，搞得俺晚上翻来覆去睡不着，觉得没有一杆步枪如
何能够抵挡暴民/僵尸的袭击？？？！！！
在此恳请诸位老大指点一二！
俺的想法基本如下：
1。不想要老枪（摸心拿肝），知道这些老枪都是传奇，但是俺的目的不是狙击，而是
实用。
2。预算有限（$500。。。），上千的老婆不批。邀请老婆看帖“灾难后的无政府状态
”，老婆不但没有被打动，反倒嘲笑洒家。。。
3。结实抗造，维护简单（像手枪里的Glock一样），不娇气。这一点非常重要，俺是个
粗心人。
4。威力大，射程远，射击精度不差。这一点非常重要，万一僵尸们围上来，枪的威力
不大不行。
5。子弹的口径通用好找（7.62 或 5.56），别太贵。
（自己在瞎找的时候发现了hi-point和kel-tec的carbine很便宜，还可以用手枪弹和弹
匣，刚开始挺激动，结果一查review，不行啊，可靠性差，威力弱，仅适合打靶。。。） |
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