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发帖数: 901 | 2 The Next Big Bailout: The US Postal Service
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/17/2010 13:56 -0500
Following the roughly two-year overdue rout of municipal securities, which
somehow has caught market "professionals" by surprise, there are increasing
calls that the Socialist States of America should bail out all the insolvent
cities and states that back these securities post haste. Judging by the
approach to risk (or lack thereof) so far by supreme chancellor Bernanke and
his impotent fiscal policy ... 阅读全帖 |
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y****z
发帖数: 1606 | 3 不来一次19国联军瓜分你就不错了,还指望bailout. |
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n****o
发帖数: 2339 | 4 中国要是倒闭，所有发达国家会排队来BAILOUT，连印度都会来拼命。不过得到好处最
大的，估计是日本和韩国 |
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 5 参照08后米国bailout金融体系的操作吧，这个将是中国翻版。 |
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发帖数: 10330 | 6 China’s $3.6 bn bailout insulates Turkey from US
Beijing’s biggest support package ever for President Erdogan arrives at a
critical time
http://www.asiatimes.com/2019/10/article/please-brer-trump-dont-throw-me-in-the-bamboo-patch/
Despite the US threat to “obliterate and destroy” Turkey’s economy, the
Turkish lira and Turkish interest rates barely have budged in the past week
(Turkish stocks, especially banks, are down sharply, in part due to the US
criminal charges against Halkbank for aiding I... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******u
发帖数: 2249 | 7 As Feds Draft Bailout, Obama Casts McCain as Free-Market Gambler
Saturday, September 20, 2008
Border
Barack Obama speaks at a rally in Daytona Beach, Fla., Saturday. (AP Photo)
As big government steps in to bail out Wall Street, Barack Obama is
ridiculing his rival as a free-market buccaneer who until this week was the
champion of the kind of deregulation blamed for the economic meltdown.
Obama’s argument is the latest attempt by the presidential candidates to
prove their economic chops are best |
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发帖数: 110 | 8 http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2008-09-25-poll-results_N.htm
Nearly eight out of 10 Americans — 78% — say Congress should approve a
historic bailout of the nation's financial markets, but most want lawmakers
to significantly modify the Bush administration's $700 billion plan,
according to a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll.
Only 11% in the poll taken Wednesday night say Congress should take no
action to ease the current credit crisis, which Bush has said could lead to
a panic. Fifty-six percent |
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发帖数: 2249 | 9 By Tom Raum, Associated Press Writer
Financial industry a big winner in bailout proposal, but not so troubled
homeowners
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The proposal to bail out U.S. financial markets to the
tune of up to $700 billion creates a lot of potential short-term winners, as
well as some losers.
Wall Street and the banking industry are perhaps the biggest winners. Scores
of banks and other financial institutions faced with going under stand to
gain a lifeline that should allow them to start making l |
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发帖数: 432 | 10 NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The fate of the Bush administration's $700
billion financial bailout plan was abruptly thrown in doubt Monday as a
House vote turned against the controversial measure.
The next steps were not immediately clear but supporters were scrambling to
put it up for another vote.
What was supposed to be a 15-minute vote stretched past the half-hour mark
as leadership scrambled for support. Investors who had been counting on the
rescue plan sent the Dow Jones industrial average |
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g*******6
发帖数: 1034 | 11 Today's defeat of Bailout bill features a major success of main street
American! It is a remarkable day for American democracy that the Congress
finally speak out for the people against the blackmail from Wall Street. By
the way, house republicans did great this time, they are hero. I wished that
McCain had more guts on his original standing to side with the house
republicans for the insurance plan, he will win the election just for doing
that.
To me, this bill is far from mature, and the democr |
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 12 节选
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aguOUred8Bjg&refer=home
If There Must Be a Bailout, Here's How to Do It: Jonathan Weil
...
If the government wants to save dying banks before they take others down
with them, it should choose the clean and direct path: Inject capital into
them. Take ownership stakes in return. And, where that's not feasible, seize
them and sell their assets in an orderly way, just as the Resolution Trust
Corp. did after the 1980s savings-and-loan crisis.
On |
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k*****y
发帖数: 2069 | 13 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
brihand (brihand) 于 (Thu Dec 11 23:13:30 2008) 提到:
auto bailout 被filibuster了
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makejian (马克坚) 于 (Thu Dec 11 23:18:48 2008) 提到:
GOP rocks!
本版开了博彩，只有一天时间，大家快押
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brihand (brihand) 于 (Thu Dec 11 23:31:07 2008) 提到:
10个GOP vote I.不过有几个DEM vote no.
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logic98 (logic) 于 (Fri Dec 12 00:21:52 2008) 提到:
UAW不愿让步。大概是想等教主上台帮忙过关。
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发帖数: 8363 | 14 GMAC Financial Services, the former financial arm of General Motors, is set
to receive yet more federal bailout funds as the year draws to a close.
According to a Reuters report, GMAC will get roughly $3.5 billion in
additional federal government money to help cover losses on the mortgage
market. Mortgage-related assets, considered the key to GMAC’s return to
profitability, comprise roughly a third of GMAC’s total $178 billion
balance sheet.
The bank has already received about $12.5 billion in b |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 15 这下好了,彻底变成小秘密了...
八年...
SEC agreed with AIG to keep some bailout terms sealed
SEC granted "confidential treatment" last May
Secrecy order stays in place until November 2018
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1116982020100111
useful idiots,
this is what obama administration do to you. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 17 印呀，印呀，印钞票。。。
Four governors and a leading national economist urged Congress on Wednesday
to send an additional $24 billion bailout to the states, saying cash-
strapped governments face deep budget cuts and thousands of lost jobs
without the aid.
The money would flow through Medicaid, the health insurance program for the
poor jointly financed by state and federal governments. Congress picked up a
larger share of Medicaid costs through the 2009 stimulus bill, but that aid
will expire in December. |
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发帖数: 4321 | 19 Former Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling has made harsh comments about
government bailouts while playing up personal responsibility in the past.
Now he's singing a different tune because his video game company 38 Studios
is struggling and Rhode Island taxpayers could be on the hook for over $112
million dollars. The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur explains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRxxd74yCk |
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l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 20
That'
almost
Odumba just wanted to put that on his list of "success", wait a minute...
If there is a success story, then he has to "blame" Bush who started bailout
before his exit from WhiteHouse which later became community center that
traps Muchel while the main queer all out golfing. |
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w******g
发帖数: 2047 | 21 i think all the US car companies will still survive without the bailout,
maybe in differrent names,maybe even stronger than they are now, at least
they can get rid of the UAW union crap |
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d***p
发帖数: 937 | 22 如果不Bailout，三大就会Out Of Business。Romney所谓的通过Private Sector来破产
保护再重新开始根本行不通。那时从Bank根本弄不到钱，因为银行也要垮了，也需要
Baiout。
不要拿Ford说事。Ford是在金融危机爆发前已经缺乏现金，就把能抵押的全都抵押了来
借钱，包括Ford Logo。那时还能接到钱。等金融危机来了，GM Chrysler没钱时，已经
借不到钱了。如果政府不注入资金，就会倒闭。他们如果倒闭，就会有连锁效应，上千
家Suppliers跟着倒闭。而Ford因得不到所需的零件，也会停产，有倒闭的危险。整个
行业会有一百多万失业。这一百万人已经陷入危机的美国经济更是雪上加霜。一百多万
人的失业救济金就有几十亿美元。
GM Chrysler倒闭了，政府就会不得不接管工会Pension，又是几十亿美元。
当时日本汽车公司受影响要小一些，如果美国三大到了，得便宜的就是日本跟韩国公司
了。 |
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t**8
发帖数: 4527 | 23 没想到 川普 三年就把 美国 破产了
2 T. bailout |
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d***y
发帖数: 8536 | 24 我们这用Bailout的钱，猛修了几条断头路。破烂的downtown express一个子都没花。 |
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l********k
发帖数: 219 | 25 俺觉着有可能：
所有钱都没到银行手里，全在鲍尔森手里。
现在市场上最大空头搞不好就是美国政府。
术语叫做对冲。
中间利用消息赚点差价。
等到最后关头才cover. 弄个几万亿再真正来bailout.
所以这些钱都不知道哪里去了。市场上也没有美元泛滥。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 Is there anyway that people with discipline and responsibility in
money management to deliberately do something to take advantage of
the bailouts that is going on and/or will be going on?
Some questions and assumptions:
1) The credit score will get hit for sure, and may not recover in 7-10
years.
2) How much is the cost of 1)? i.e., how much the benefit should be,
in order for a 800 credit score guy to deliberately destroy his credit?
3) Seems credit score is less important for people who do not |
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f****r
发帖数: 5118 | 28 US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told top lawmakers Friday that much-
criticized bailout programs in response to the 2008 economic meltdown will
cost no more than 87 billion dollars. |
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t*****n
发帖数: 225 | 29 可能军费不太够用了吧，要把bailout的钱挪去充军饷 |
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i*****d
发帖数: 178 | 30 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aHb.TmEACU5A&refer=home
By John Hughes and Lorraine Woellert
Dec. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Congressional approval of a $15 billion U.S. automaker
bailout is stalled over disputes including whether the companies should be
required to drop lawsuits challenging environmental rules.
The lawsuits are “one of the issues we’re talking about,” House Financial
Services Chairman Barney Frank told reporters. The disagreements don’t
appear to be “of a sufficient n |
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l*******r
发帖数: 3799 | 31 That is the reason the market rebounce today.
Market expected EU will (announce to) bailout Greece. If not, we may see
another crash on Monday ... |
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g*****u
发帖数: 14294 | 32 greece肯定bailout呀。他们总统的英语不错，美国口音。 |
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g8
发帖数: 3784 | 35 Austrian Parliament Rejects Increasing European Bailout Fund |
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t**u
发帖数: 1572 | 36 shao: Slovakia Poised to Block Bailout's Expansion |
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d*****d
发帖数: 10658 | 37 By David B. Wilkerson CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Lawmakers in Slovakia have
opted to delay their vote on an expanded bailout fund intended to help
resolve the euro zone's debt crisis, The Wall Street Journal reported in its
digital edition Tuesday afternoon. Slovakia is the last of the euro-zone's
17 countries to vote on the 40 billion ($600 billion) European Financial
Stability Facility. It was unclear when the Slovakian parliament would vote
on the measure. |
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d******8
发帖数: 1972 | 38 Concern about an effective European bailout has decimated U.S. investor
sentiment, causing them to ignore an earnings season that shows stocks offer
a great value right now, some traders and strategists are starting to say.
Photo: Oliver P. Quilla for CNBC.com
The worst-case scenario right now is “waking up to news that European
policymakers have run out of time to develop a rescue plan for their
financial system,” said Nicholas Colas, chief market strategist for
ConvergEx Group, in a note. “Sto... 阅读全帖 |
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 39 BREAKING NEWS
Greece's Vote on Bailout Plan Is "Basically Dead': Report (Story developing) |
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g8
发帖数: 3784 | 40 Greece Hasn't Made a Decision Yet on Bailout Referendum, Contrary to Finance
Minster's Earlier Statement |
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发帖数: 48111 | 41 基本原则是没有错的。
基本面没有改善， 每次债务的roll over都是more debt.
bailout is not free, without ECB printing press.
it increases debt other where else.
so the debt trap will be deeper and deeper.
those leaders and 1% know that but they can't evade that. |
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发帖数: 901 | 42 What would you expect government-owned mortgage giants Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac to do after receiving nearly $200 billion in taxpayer bailouts?
Pay huge executive bonuses, of course. Since accepting government money,
Fannie and Freddie spent nearly $100 million for top executive compensation.
The top five executives at Fannie received a combined $33.3 million in 2009
and 2010. The top five at Freddie received $28.1 million.
Fannie CEO Michael Williams and Freddie CEO Charles Halderman each rec... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 932 | 43 Stocks Pare Losses After Draft of Summit Statement Shows EU Leaders Pledge
to Strengthen Bailout Mechanisms
不知道明天会有转机吗？ santa rally在哪里？ |
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i*******e
发帖数: 1904 | 44 希腊default了后会做什么呢？
1. 用现有的欧元做储备货币。
2. 印刷新钞bailout国内银行，提高信贷，支持国内企业。
3. 印刷新钞来增加政府财政支出。也就是大建基础设施（学习中国的4万亿）。
4. 通过通货膨胀来调整价格体系。让没有竞争力的行业收入下降，有竞争力的上升。
5. 通过通货膨胀来财富转移，稀释富人所拥有的财富。
6. 通过通货膨胀来使工会的最低工资条款失效。
只有这样才能把高达20%的失业率打下来。大家想想二战前的德国：没有魏玛共和国时
期的高通胀，怎么会有希特勒时期的高就业率呢？描述通胀和失业率的负相关性的
philips曲线大家都听说过了吧。 |
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发帖数: 7948 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (88), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 穷鬼拿几百块的食品券，富人拿几百万的bailout
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 18 23:29:11 2012, 美东)
然后这些吸血鬼百万富翁还要骂穷鬼不交税。
还有一些没拿到食品券的穷鬼，也加入吸血鬼百万富翁的行列，一起骂拿到食品券的穷
鬼。
这世界是怎么啦？ |
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B*******n
发帖数: 20645 | 46 With Argentine politicians explaining that "Argentina is not in default" and
ISDA set to decide if last night's default is an 'official' trigger event
for CDS, it appears Kirchner, Kicillof, and their (k)omrades may have found
an angel. The initial 'bailout' plan, by which Argentine banks bought the
holdouts defaulted debt (then promptly acquiesced to Argentina's old debt-
swap agreement), failed last night; but, as WSJ reports, JPMorgan is in
discussions to buy the defaulted bonds of Argentina'... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******2
发帖数: 3202 | 47 每天的bailout费用是50委比。
如果是攻击他人的，把委比转给被攻击的人
如果是因为违反骨板其他规定的，委比充公。
泡泡觉得猴哥这个建议怎么样？ |
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b*******2
发帖数: 3202 | 48 bailout 期间如果再犯，则单日费用加倍。 |
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C*****8
发帖数: 5758 | 49 其实应该规定像“尼玛”等这种口头禅不能算骂人， 否则真没法说话了。还有bailout
可以减到20威逼，50还是太贵了，穷人付不起啊。 |
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