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e********3
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来自主题: History版 - 二战盟军胜在保障交通
老牌帝国主义国家不是盖的,amateurs talk about strategy, professionals talk
about logistics.
C****g
发帖数: 2220
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其实Woz的水平,就是无线电爱好者而已
Jobs其实就一推销员,salesman
Jobs成功的主要原因是
在22岁的时候(1976),把Woz开发的Apple I卖出了200部
每部666美元,因此创收13万余美元(当时1美元可以顶现在好几美元)
这笔钱是其后续发展的原始资本
我比较神奇的是,他们做卖的第一部Apple I
其实除了那个木壳,其他所有的东西都是买来的
都是大公司开发的,他们只不过组装了一下而已
为什么,当时卖这些芯片的公司没有想到整一台电脑出来卖?
同一时间,Bill Gates也从无线电爱好者杂志上买来一台Altair电脑
并且开发出一些程序
为什么这些大机构
会给Gates、Woz这些无线电爱好者打败了?
BTW:原贴不少错误,包括提intel,未加查证,实在抱歉
l*****s
发帖数: 2109
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去读一下当年的byte杂志,从上面可以看到当时并非他们一家,当时是一堆人。
所谓站在巨人的肩膀上!
q*d
发帖数: 22178
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Jobs在这之前还干过一件事情,
就是制造了一种破解长途电话装置,
连上电话之后,可以免费打长途,
丫卖出去了一堆,我记得也是跟woz合作的吧.
D***e
发帖数: 48486
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号称给教皇打电话?
n*******4
发帖数: 2285
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PC先驱们不是CS科班,但绝对都是Nerds。PBS曾有个讲早期PC发展史的节目叫Triumph
of the Nerds,建议可以搞来看看。大公司搞创新往往是出奇的慢,主要靠技术壁垒吃
饭。microprocessor的出现使这个壁垒一下降得很低,业余爱好者也可进入。而搞开发
效率要比到大公司高很多。
IBM开发IBM PC时就没故意让公司里搞大型机,小型机的专家们参加,而是采用硅谷文
化建了一个专门小组,图快不用IBM自己的芯片而用off the shelf芯片原件和OS(也因
此成就了intel, microsoft)。IBM在1975年就出过5100 (IBM PC刚出来时还叫
IBM5150),
但是太贵, 卖$8000, 而PC的sweet spot价位是$2000. AppleII比5100好还便宜,你说
大家买谁的?
PaulAllen和Gates当时连Altiar 8800都没买(shipping order 60天,来不及)。
PaulAllen 用哈佛的PDP-10模拟的intel 8080芯片。开始Paul给MITS打电话时连BASIC
解释程序都没有编出一行,... 阅读全帖
r*y
发帖数: 706
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Apple I 你前一片说很难,现在又说搭起来就行。。
r*y
发帖数: 706
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IBM5100/5150? 以前还真不知道

Triumph
C****g
发帖数: 2220
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就是因为很难
所以他们并不是自己开发的
而是搭起来的
n*******w
发帖数: 6708
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APPLE这名起的真不错啊
比TOMATO,ORANGE, PEACH,PEAR强多了
s*****e
发帖数: 16824
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市场定位的问题,当时确实没有想到pc真能变成personal的,以为最多就是企业市场,
我觉得盖茨什么的当时应该也没有看到,就是当作一个小商机跳进去的,结果后来变成
大金矿了。
i*****s
发帖数: 4596
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市场是主动创造出来的,不是所谓预测出来的。
C****g
发帖数: 2220
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gates当时也就一作坊
据说IBM主动找他开发MS DOS
为什么IBM那么多科学家,PhD
要去找一个21-2 岁没读完大学的小作坊主
开发一个OS?
d*****0
发帖数: 68029
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你不看看盖茨的老妈是谁?
d*****n
发帖数: 3084
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就是叫SHITT,以其成就现在也会觉得名字酷。
k**o
发帖数: 15334
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第一代MS DOS不是gates开发的,是他拿到IBM订单后,出去花$75k收购回来的。
gates之所以能拿到订单,因为他妈认识IBM老总。
IBM当时不重视PC,而且大公司效率低,如果自己写操作系统,恐怕得20
人team写个一年才能搞定,不如outsource给其他公司节约成本。但是IBM
犯了一个致命错误,就是outsource之后,没有把版权也买了,而只是选择
按unit支付版税,因为最初PC销售量很小很小,可能IBM觉着按unit支付版税
比较划算。结果gates拿IBM的钱,开发了一代又一代的DOS,最后成为最流
行的操作系统。IBM发现不对头的时候,已经晚了,后来IBM亡羊补牢搞了个
自主版权的OS/2系统与DOS竞争,结果惨败。那个年代的IBM确实是昏招迭出,
差点就嗝屁了,幸亏louis gerstner这个大牛来IBM当CEO,果断让IBM迅速
转型成为IT服务公司,避免了IBM破产的命运。
O****X
发帖数: 24292
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体制问题,大公司的生存模式和小公司不一样
有一个著名的段子,HP的创始人有次把手下一个工程师搞的便宜而又简单的替代产品当
众拿锤子砸烂,号称这是垃圾

Triumph
O****X
发帖数: 24292
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当时的问题其实是没有什么应用是真正个人需要用的,打个字啥的都有更好的产品,甚
至游戏都不是强项,PC纯粹是一个奢侈品
f*****g
发帖数: 3086
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说实话,进入互联网时代之前,微型机确实对个人没有用。
geek当玩具,或者宅男打仙剑
v**n
发帖数: 951
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我上小本的时候读Byte,不知道现在在哪里还可以看到? 图书馆里的缩微胶片?
n*******4
发帖数: 2285
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放狗搜了一把,youtube上有:
Triumph of the Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFL9IyJ_qHk
1996年拍的,internet革命还没到来。

Triumph
m*****u
发帖数: 15526
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这个太扯了。办公软件还是很有用的。当年学电脑都学wps文字处理,lotus图表。打字
机被完全取代了
e********3
发帖数: 18578
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Amateurs talk about strategies while professionals talk about logistics.
e********3
发帖数: 18578
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来自主题: Military版 - 看到一个15军的帖子,不知真假
Amateurs talk about strategy while professionals talk about logistics.
w*******q
发帖数: 1764
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来自主题: Military版 - 私人营救小组可能是生财机会
中美俄都扯淡,这种事情最有经验record也最好的是英国和以色列,元首时期的德国也
很猛。其他国家跟这几位比都是amateur. 美国那什么delta force吹的上天,比弹丸小
国以色列和破落户英国可差远了。
c****3
发帖数: 51
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萨卡什维利真是amateur level的代理人,还要老美盯着,擦屁股。
f***s
发帖数: 799
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来自主题: Military版 - Paypal也把wikileaks封了
PayPal cuts WikiLeaks from money flow
BERLIN (AP) -- The online payment service provider PayPal has cut off the
account used by WikiLeaks to collect donations, serving another blow to the
organization just as it was struggling to keep its website accessible after
an American company stopped directing traffic to it.
PayPal said in a blog posting that the move was prompted by a violation of
its policy, "which states that our payment service cannot be used for any
activities that encourage, promote... 阅读全帖
L*********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 蓝翔技校在菏泽么?又出大事了
据说macfee说菏泽(山东?)的中国黑客攻克西方石油大亨登的数据库
偷窃了大量数据
McAfee said it identified an individual in the eastern Chinese city of Heze
in Shandong province who provided servers that hosted an application that
controlled computers at the victim companies. The report did not identify
the person and said he was not believed to be the scheme's mastermind.
McAfee said extraction of information occurred from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Beijing
time on weekdays. It said that suggested the attackers were "company men"
on a regula... 阅读全帖
t*******h
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来自主题: Military版 - 解放广场上的中国天气
大意:
世界粮农组织警告,中国干旱将迫使世界最大小麦生产者(中国)大量进口谷物,使得
市场价格创纪录的攀升。
埃及起义的根本原因,是中国:亚洲的繁荣造成了对谷物的空前需求。
40%的埃及人每天生活费低于2刀--甚至比加沙地带的人害穷。
食品的上涨加重了埃及人对现政权的不满。
埃及不能像中国在1949年一样搞土改,一切已经太晚了。
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MB10Ak02.html
Chinese weather on Tahrir Square
By Spengler
The late novelist James Clavell had a tiresome habit of driving the plots of
his potboilers into cul-de-sacs, whence he would extricate them with a
natural disaster.
Egypt had its Clavell moment on February 8 when the Food and Agricul... 阅读全帖
n******n
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not surprising. all amateurs.
f****y
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据英国《每日邮报》3月1日报道,英国政府为举办2012年伦敦奥运会而耗资500万
英镑(约合人民币5341.70万元)建造的游泳馆日前被查出重大失误,其泳道长度竟然
比奥运会标准泳道短了近61厘米,因此无法在明年的比赛中使用。
负责该场馆建设的一个官方委员会解释说,这座位于汉普郡朴茨茅斯市蒙巴顿中心
的游泳馆完全是按照奥运会专用场馆的“规模和标准”设计并建造的,该游泳馆内共有
8条泳道,每条泳道都是50米。但是,按照奥运会游泳比赛的相关要求,每条泳道的两
端都要加装计时用的触摸板,两块触摸板的厚度大约为61 厘米,因此原本50米的标准
泳道被“不可避免地缩短了”。
这个官方委员会共掌握2000万英镑的奥运会场馆建设投资,建设新游泳馆共花费了
其中的1/4。他们否认这是一个重大失误,称在不需要加装触摸板的情况下,新游泳馆
完全可以用来进行训练或者举行一些“非职业赛事”,计时方式可以改用秒表。目前,
该游泳馆已经获得了英国业余游泳协会(Amateur Swimming Association)和一个国际
游泳机构的认可,它们表示泳道的缺陷在“可以容忍的范围之内”。
英国工党议员吉姆?弗莱明... 阅读全帖
r*******1
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目前,该游泳馆已经获得了英国业余游泳协会(Amateur Swimming Association)和一
个国际游泳机构的认可,它们表示泳道的缺陷在“可以容忍的范围之内”。
哈哈,这个真喜感
f**k
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你说的不对
辞源上讲,这个词来自希腊语
本义是表演,过火的演示.
hypo是在.....下
krites是票友,或者业余演员
hypo+krites, 是amateur play-acting的意思
翻成汉语,是巧言令色
的确是虚伪的意思.
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - 埃及军政府昨天晚上清场了
Cairo (CNN) -- Pre-dawn gunfire and clashes from a violent military
crackdown on protesters in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Saturday left Egyptians
feeling shocked, confused and angered in the hours that followed.
Long bursts of machine gun-fire erupted overnight starting around 3 a.m.,
when scores of soldiers backed by armored personnel carriers launched a raid
on the square.
Amateur video posted on YouTube showed troops storming the square's central
round-about amid rattling gunfire.
Hundreds of p... 阅读全帖
t******r
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Rumsfeld went to Baker Demonstration School, a private middle school, and
later graduated[6] from New Trier High School. He attended Princeton
University on academic and NROTC partial scholarships (A.B., 1954). In
extracurricular activities he was an accomplished amateur wrestler and a
member of the Lightweight Football team playing defensive back, and at
Princeton he became captain of both the varsity wrestling team and the
lightweight football team.

1957, as a naval aviator and flight instruc... 阅读全帖
e********3
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1.有两个基地组织的人招供出来拉登信任的一个信使的名字,然后这哥们去年跟一个被
监听的人打了一个电话,中情局就能定位到他具体在哪里,然后再跟踪他的行迹,找到
了这个房子。
2.为什么等了半年多?因为先要排查,确定是拉登,不然杀进去发现杀错了不是天大的
丑闻?第二Team Six还要准备,不是说今天知道本拉登在哪里,明天就一票人吗冲进去
拿人,为了准备进攻这个房子,专门修了一栋一模一样的房子,让被选中的20多个Team
Six的成员反复操练,以保证万无一失。杀个本拉登容易,杀本拉登之前的寻找,计划
,训练,那才是天量的工作量,无数的人力物力。
要做到不被巴基斯坦军方在行动以前发现,不要拉登逃脱或者引爆炸弹,而且还要把所
有的人员带回来,把俘虏和档案,材料,硬盘都打包带回来,这个计划,准备和训练,
起码要1,2个月的时间。加上前面的排查,侦查,还有军方层层上报,到最后奥巴马拍
板批准行动这些行政手续,以及调好时间,现在是春天,要是冬天气候不好,不利于行
动,或者当天暴雨狂风,也不行,最后要等个半年才出动杀人很正常。
想起了一句二战里面美国将军Omar Bradley说过的一句名言,Amat... 阅读全帖
c*******o
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来自主题: Military版 - 大家给程序大师排个名么
他们都是amateur,说也听不懂。
D****u
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【 以下文字转载自 Military2 讨论区 】
发信人: DrLiYu (婆婆------蓝), 信区: Military2
标 题: Re: (组图)解放军占领华盛顿!美国广告太给力了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 21 14:10:38 2011, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFsqkI5gg84
Very poorly made video, worse than amateur level.
s*******u
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你能不能拍一段你和你妈做的片断给大家欣赏一下,我想那一定不boring.
t*s
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all computer-based game players use heuristic fuctions, unless the game can
be solved using brute force
i said, it's a NAIVE heuristic function. it's an example. nevertheless, such
a naive algorithm, if running on deep blue, can still beat many amateurs.
you need a better algorithm to beat the pros

your
s********n
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veterans today issues a scathing report on this propagandist ploy. Good
report. Another sign veterans aren't buying the ploy of deception.
“Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murderered to Keep Them Quiet. Some Possibly
Killed in Abbottabad Helicopter Crash Months Before
Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden
operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
The chances of this story being true is almost nil. The chances of this
being a staged coveru... 阅读全帖
s********n
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veterans today issues a scathing report on this propagandist ploy. Good
report. Another sign veterans aren't buying the ploy of deception.
“Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murderered to Keep Them Quiet. Some Possibly
Killed in Abbottabad Helicopter Crash Months Before
Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden
operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
The chances of this story being true is almost nil. The chances of this
being a staged coveru... 阅读全帖
c**i
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BBC Chinese, Aug 14, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp
/world/2011/08/110814_us_china_vietnam_carriers.shtml
("分析人士认为,美国周六邀请越南代表团参观核动力航母 [USS George Washington]
的举动,是在鼓励越南等与中国有海域主权之争的亚洲小国的信心和勇气")
-----------------------------Separately
(1) 日本欲加入核事故公约防外国索偿. BBC Chinese, Aug 14, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp
/world/2011/08/110814_japan_nuclear.shtml
("5月份《朝日新闻》报道,政府认为周边国家可能根据海洋污染的受害情况向日本要
求巨额赔偿")
Note: 核损害补充赔偿公约 Convention on Supplementary Compensation for
Nuclear Damage
(2) 骆家辉正式... 阅读全帖
K******S
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LOL, no one expects CNN to do such things. Or at least pretend to be
objective. All CNN hints is that's Chinese player's fault.
"
An amateur video on YouTube shows a Chinese player pushing a U.S. player to
the ground and punching him repeatedly. CNN could not independently verify
the authenticity of the video.
Many comments criticize Bayi Rocket players. "(The players') Basketball
skills are not very hot but their temper is hot," says @alesfu on Tencent
Weibo, China's second-largest social media... 阅读全帖
i**i
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来自主题: Military版 - 芮成钢的98年演讲
和native speakers 写出来的还是有很大差距的. 也就糊弄糊弄国内人而已...
Honorable judges, ladies and gentlemen:
Kipling said:" East is east, and West is West, and never the twain shall
meet!" But now, a century later, they have met.
They have met in business. They have met in education. They have met in
the arts.
Some would argue that these meetings leave us with a choice between East
and West ,but I believe the best future lies in the creative combination of
both worlds. We can make Western ideas, customs and technology... 阅读全帖
x****u
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eliminate all government agencies directly overseeing football, stop
spending any government money on adult football, then put all that money
into improving elementary school, middle school, high school athletics
equipments and fields, encourage local amateur football programs. Then
after 20 years, we will see much improvements.
h*****9
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没听说过是你自己无知。这只能说明你是个很容易被骗的无知之徒, 你又要凭你自己的无知骂人,你又无耻了。
揭露 BIG-BANG 是披着科学外衣的宗教,这在10年前就有很多文章了。
THE "BIG BANG" IS JUST RELIGION DISGUISED AS SCIENCE
by Michael Rivero
Once upon a time, a long time ago, there was this guy named Aristotle.
Pretty sharp fellow; he thought up a lot of good things. But, occasionally
he made a mistake.
One mistake he made was to toss an orange up in the air and watch it come
straight back down to his hand. Aristotle reasoned that if he was moving,
the orange would have flown... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Caroline Muir 1 day ago
As a patriotic Englishwoman, I usually find American derogatory comments
about my country infuriating, but on this occasion I can only agree with
them.
Last night’s opening ceremony was a egregiously embarrassing display of
nauseating leftie tosh; amateur night perpetuated by a smug metropolitan
elite who are not in touch with the feelings of most people of the UK.
I am no conservative, but I am so heartily sick of our public life being hi-
jacked by so-called libertarian... 阅读全帖
m******e
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来自主题: Military版 - 米帝doping领先全球啊 (转载)
世界十大兴奋剂丑闻,美国独占其六,包括世界最大丑闻制造者美国的琼斯。看来美国
的吞服兴奋剂的广度和深度不让人佩服不行啊!
The Top 10 Running Doping Scandals of All Time
By Erin Beresini
Published May. 25, 2011
Updated May. 26, 2011 at 9:40 AM UTC
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Justin Gatlin courtesy of PhotoRun.net
Rashid Ramzi courtesy of PhotoRun.net
Marion Jones courtesy of PhotoRun.net
1 of 4
In light of the recent news that (just about) every cyclist on the planet
has ... 阅读全帖
s*********8
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来自主题: Military版 - IRS to tax US medalists, 30%?
When Olympic medalists return to the United States, they're in high demand.
Everyone, from Michael Phelps to a bronze medalist in judo will be sitting
for television interviews, talking to newspapers, going to assemblies at
local schools and celebrating with friends, family and young athletes. They'
ll also draw some unwanted interest from everyone's favorite bureaucrats:
the IRS.
Medalists will have to pay hefty taxes for standing on the podium in London.
It's not the value of the medal itself ... 阅读全帖
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