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发帖数: 11281 | 1 你的M39多少钱处理，我想收一个shooter grade的
M39是.308bore的，可以找到便宜的M80 ball弹头，
自己装54R,不用操心钢头不能在这里打的麻烦 |
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发帖数: 11281 | 2 确实，223的蛋壳满地都是
54R的蛋壳，我只捡到40多个boxer铜壳，
远比308少见。 |
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发帖数: 11281 | 3 记得4831 IMR和H牌的燃速不一样的？
另外追问一句，这个火药还能用在什么口径，
我从来没用过这么慢的火药，没经验
能用在54R上不？ |
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发帖数: 11281 | 5 54R， 7.62 soviet都打过军剩
对于时间紧的懒人，锈管子的考验还是很大 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 7 都说要从mosin开始了，能连续打54R超过50发的
基本上，其他口径不怵 |
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发帖数: 11281 | 8 我想自己做一个枪托，给mosin nagant用的
口径54R
初步想法有几个特点：
1。可以快速拆装的buttstock，卡口式，还有调整长度
2。使用PSL或者VEPR弹匣供弹。
3。pistol grip，这个不难，装个MOE就行。
我没有金属加工经验，不知道CNC做这么大个东西，
花费多少，如果是自己做3D的文件的话,那些machine shop给
做吧? |
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d***8
发帖数: 2039 | 10 不知道是这个Vepr 54R准，还是Mosin Nagant M91/30 准？ |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 11 也对，308 用 Vepr,
54R 用 Mosin， 这样配置不吃亏 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 12 这个值得好好研究一下
需要有3把 Vepr,
7.62x39 经典版
308 or 54R 威力加强版
5.45x39 大容量 Magazine AK 74 版 |
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 13 手枪弹都好说，一般50cal的弹药箱一个能装下1000发，AK的也能装个500发。
步枪弹的话就比较麻烦了。像mosin的54r和mauser的7.92都很长很大。 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 16 在女同事面前一边show 54R子弹，乱吹一通测试参数，顺便编几个英勇的和鲨鱼或熊搏
斗的故事，
周末的 date 不就来了
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 17 借别人的枪打的，有镜子，毫无悬念放倒了 100 yard 的 target，
同时也被驴给踢了一脚。
把 shell 给捡了回来收藏，查了一下是.30-06 7.62x63 的，
比 308 和 54R 猛一圈，这下是爽到了一把。 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 18 63 比 54R 长一些？
那老美说比 308 要猛 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 19 哑弹 / delay fire, 好像有在 Mosin 中有一定比例，枪的问题还是弹药的问题？
对于 54R 这种威力的 rifle， 如果存在开火延迟还是有危险的 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 22 没有纠结， 一切在磨合之中。 一周内第二支 308 或 54R 的 Vepr 是毫无疑问的。
如果 M10 以后有74版，还是会考虑再要一个。 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 23 That's good news.
762 也是 double stack 的, 应该也可以。
308 和 54R 好像是 single stack, 如果装 double stack 弹夹，入口需要磨掉一些。 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 24 That's good news.
762 也是 double stack 的, 应该也可以。
308 和 54R 好像是 single stack, 如果装 double stack 弹夹，入口需要磨掉一些。 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 25 Vepr Sport 有两个版本,旧的那种扳机靠后, 比较传统难看
新版的 wood stock 有 grip，如果换 pistol grip, 应该不需要移动扳机组
不过那个 wood stock 已经够好了，以至于想象如果换成 pistol grip，除了变得更像
原版 AK，没有明显的提高。
而且stock 上那个 rubber 垫子，有效的降低 308 或 54R 对肩膀的冲击，是很赞的。 |
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发帖数: 15155 | 27 为啥，54r不是应该挺准么，出了这枪尺寸大点
［在 xs7 (超小7) 的大作中提到：］
:睡前100刀吧
:去BIG5最近有优惠，还可以挑
[发自未名空间iPhone版] |
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发帖数: 2410 | 28 炒肉干要用铸铁锅，整个就一个大铁盘，十几磅重，什么不粘锅涂料也没有。
刚从 Walmart 买了一个，
长得就像 Range 里用的金刚 Plate, 承受 7.62x39, 54R, 30-06 等等。 |
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发帖数: 160 | 30 BTW, if you buy a VEPR rifle, check the rifle carefully at your FFL store
before signing for the transfer. I am not having a good experience with the
importer at this time. I wish I had checked the rifle carefully
before the transfer.
My rifle arrived with a rusty bolt head, damaged finishes, a sling screw
with damaged head, and a badly misaligned/bent stock. The worst part is that
the rifle fails to eject for about every 15 to 20 rounds. When the gun does
eject, the shells hit everywhere of th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2410 | 31 我是在 Centerfire System 买的时候遇到了不愉快。
本来考虑到子弹价格，想最后添置一把 545，但订单被无故取消，没有任何说法。
对于这种大选后前，生意好坏 two face 的态度，不能接受。
以后还会考虑 Vepr， 但对于做事不地道有“潜规则”的商家，还是不联系购买为好。
the
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发帖数: 160 | 32 If you want to buy it, check the rifle carefully before you sign for the
transfer. It's better to field stip it since there may be rusty parts as in
my case. In addition, the quality of the two original Molot magazines is of
the lowest quality of a magazine I have ever seen: all parts are plastic
except for the spring and it wobbles badly in the gun. My 7 dollar tapco
beats its quality easily.
My VEPR is actually now at the importer TGI/Wolf, not at the reseller/
distributor. They do not really ... 阅读全帖 |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 33 那个不是Molt Vepr 的原装军品铁弹夹， 为了这批 Vepr 符合Sports Gun, 是TGI
找人代工设计的，好像是 Promag 造的，自然不如 Tapco
我的 762 打了不到 100 发，有些地方已经磨掉了
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发帖数: 160 | 34 But why are there Russian letters on the magazines, which was the reason I
thought there were made by Molot? Are they made in Russia anyway? They are
really flimsy. |
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发帖数: 567 | 35 我有这个，在刚晒过的家底里。到现在打了有6，700发，还没有发现任何问题，也从来
没有FTF，FTE等。难道是我运气好？ |
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发帖数: 21328 | 36 有点像over gassed
你是不是用了180gr的机枪弹
有gas port可以调吗？
按道理vepr吃heavy balls应该没有问题呀
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发帖数: 160 | 37 I cleaned the magazine too but it didn't solve the FTE problem.
Did you check the wear from used cases on the ejector of your VEPR? Mine has
significant wear on both the front side and the right side (looking toward
the barrel) after fewer than 200 rounds.
In addition, when the mag with ammo is inserted into the gun, the tip of the
ejector is out of the small slot designed for the ejector on the bolt head
when the bolt head moves back through the ejector, which I think is the
reaon of FTE and th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 160 | 38 I checked your pics and found that you got the Hunter version instead of the
basic version. The hunder vesion is supposed to be better. Of course not
every VEPR has problems. I might have got a lemon for so many defects found.
BTW, can you check the wear from used cases on the ejector of your VEPR? Is
the wear significant only on the front side of the ejector or on both the
front and the right side of the ejector (looking toward the barrel)? In
addition, when the mag with ammo is in the rifle an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 160 | 39 My experience is Saiga's quality is more consistent than VEPR's, although
VEPR has a thicker barrel and receiver.
I did use surlpus ammo but those ammo look new and their cases are perfect. |
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d*******6
发帖数: 160 | 40 There are no gas ports to adjust. In addition, it looks not a gas port
problem, since some ejected cases are far and some are just inches away. I
think that the bolt hits some of the abnormally ejected cases and so they go
everywhere. I used the 148 grain surplus ammo and they look new actually. |
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X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 41 有明显划痕但无变形, 不过下结论有些为时过早,
怎么也得打上 500 发的
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d*******6
发帖数: 160 | 42 My rifle is still at the importer. I'll see if I can find one online. |
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d*******6
发帖数: 160 | 43 Here is a picture of one with a broken extractor, which broke after fewer
than 500 rounds. |
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发帖数: 160 | 44 Here is another pic of the same bolt head. |
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发帖数: 16240 | 45 这张图是普通AK的枪机头：
十点半方向是抓壳钩。
我以前照的见附件，注意saiga 308的抓壳钩，背面加强那条棱。
可惜我卖掉以前没有在拆抓壳钩的时候仔细拍过销钉孔。
从断抓壳钩那张照片上，不像AR典型故障那样抓壳钩本身断掉（AK的整个就是个钢柱，
钩体怎么都不会断），而是在最薄弱的地方，销钉孔。
第二张，左边saiga 308的。注意多出来的一个凸笋。对应在上面那张枪机头图的十二
点方向。 |
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d*******6
发帖数: 160 | 47 My rifle is at the importer for repair and these pics are from online
sources. |
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d*******6
发帖数: 160 | 49 Here is pic 1 of the 5 FTEs out of 120 shots I test fired the rifle after
they returned it to me.
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