f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 $24+2, 90 ppl, 3000 chips.
played super tight for first 3 levels.
hand 1:
KsQs at late position, raised 3xBB for the first time. got pushed by on tilt
SB's short stack all-in (1200). called to see A7o, board came as KQxAx.
now got some extra gun powder, fired a raise each round in LP in gus hanson'
s style with suited connectors, nobody called, even more powder (~6000).
hand 2:
AcQc at SB, MP loose guy raised to 3xBB(600), SB went all-in (1500), no
other move, re-raised to 2700 to isolate MP out |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 2 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
AJ.
昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 Poker is a very simple and easy game. So much easier than chess or go and it
is almost ridiculous. I remember someone said on another board, "poker is
much more complicated than chess because it has more cards than the chess
pieces." I almost laughed at the computer screen. Anyone with a half brain
will not say something this stupid. Why is poker easy? It is simply
because of the decision tree. When we play any game, we need to make
decision with every move. The more option we have the more... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 $24+2, 90 ppl, 3000 chips.
played super tight for first 3 levels.
hand 1:
KsQs at late position, raised 3xBB for the first time. got pushed by on tilt
SB's short stack all-in (1200). called to see A7o, board came as KQxAx.
now got some extra gun powder, fired a raise each round in LP in gus hanson'
s style with suited connectors, nobody called, even more powder (~6000).
hand 2:
AcQc at SB, MP loose guy raised to 3xBB(600), SB went all-in (1500), no
other move, re-raised to 2700 to isolate MP out |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 5 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
AJ.
昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了. |
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l********e
发帖数: 755 | 6 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
我想卖的物品:
3Xbb 9800 @490 /ea obo
单张面值:
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
490/ea
物品新旧要求:
New, sealed, Black
邮寄方式要求:
Yl
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
付款方式说明:
BOA, or Chase quickpay
其他补充说明:
广告的有效期:
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我的联系方式:
Warranty期限:
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
state and zip:
CA |
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y********n
发帖数: 1669 | 7 Paypal or amazon giftcard
online wait |
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l********e
发帖数: 755 | 8 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
我想卖的物品:
3Xbb 9800 @490 /ea obo
单张面值:
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
490/ea
物品新旧要求:
New, sealed, Black
邮寄方式要求:
Yl
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
付款方式说明:
BOA, or Chase quickpay
其他补充说明:
广告的有效期:
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
ATT
我的联系方式:
Warranty期限:
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
state and zip:
CA |
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y********n
发帖数: 1669 | 9 Paypal or amazon giftcard
online wait |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 how many get paid? 70? if so, i tend to fold. you still got 15BB, not too
bad.
3xBB raise -> double-> all-in (3800+)... looks like a made hand for me,
hands like AJ/AT/KQ/99... are not likely.
) |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 11 I think that's because most wsop $10k entries are from satellites,so they
care cashing.If you play your normal bankroll like $24,$75 token tourment in
Fulltilt, it's totol nonsense to throw away As when you are in bubble
facing allins. You are making a couple bucks at bottom of the money for
hours of grinding. Forget about miracle, you basically got no chance for
winning if short-stacked going in. All people can call you 3xBBs allin and
check it down.
10K
they
dragon
most |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 FTP, $26 single table SNG, 9 players, 1500 chips.
early in tourney, 20/40 blinds, every one folded to me at cutoff with A4o.
sensed it might be early and ppl play in a tighter mode, raised 3xBB to 120.
only SB called.
flop: KJ4 rainbow. SB checked, i made a continuation bet of 200 for a 260
pot, hoped to finish here with position.
SB smooth called, well, i was almost done with this hand.
turn: A. SB checked again, hmm, interesting now. fired again with value this
time, 400 (pot 660).
SB took a w |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 觉得很多人都只看到了他的“粗”(aggressive, low starting hand standard)，俺倒
觉得他玩的是粗中有细，对position的真正理解利用很牛，还有你说的prefect read，
此外，他和dan harrington都是以前玩那个什么backgammon出家的，习惯性计算概率什
么的比一般人快。
pre-flop，他很多时候都在LP 3xBB，4xBB with trash (J6o, K7s, 33)，尽管名声在
外，live tournament反倒很少有人(包括不少pros) jump on top re-raise。经常最多
是plain call，然后在flop上weak check让他轻松的一个continuation bet收关，至多
到turn，而且到turn，明显gus的嗅觉很灵敏，要想disguise a monster to trap他很
难很需要勇气。太多即使是pro对手过于怕他，给了太多的credits than he deserves.
所以这么搞下来，他实际上赢了很多small pots(尤其是ante是他的最爱) w |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 and this time, UTG puts a 3xBB raise first.. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 1. it's more likely a probe bet than value. like if u bet pre-flop, he calls
. now there's an A on the flop, he's betting (size is the key) to see if you
really have an Ax hand or weaker hand like JJ, TT.
2. pretty standard, BB should not let SB in cheaply. with position over SB,
BB gets a lot of room to play post flop. or, if SB folds, win right here.
3. a call for 3xBB from SB is always a strong singal, unless he's really
donk.
4. depends on board texture (flush/straight draw?), it could be 50 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 昨天13500KO有两把关键手打得极臭。
QJo at SB，MP guy (loose aggressive, all-in with bottom pair, but has big
stack) raises 3xBB, one short stack shoves with 2BB，i think for a min and
fold, BB calls.
board: JJT-7-2, BB bets on turn and kicks MP out. BB has 33 and shove guy
got J3o.
这把也就算了，毕竟俺stack还不错。
另一把，也是QJo，UTG limps，i limp(有点怕后面一小子), SB and BB in too.
flop: Q7s5s，UTG bets 2/3 pot，i put him on a weaker Q and raise double, he
hesitates but calls. turn is 9s, he shoves last 2000, i barely cover him
and call.. |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 17 AC 打过一次$200BUY IN 的TOURNAMENT, AA PREFLOP RAISE 3XBB, 被33搞死掉, 从此
就被伤到了, 之后就再没去玩过了.
Satellite BUY IN 是多少? 我也想去啊. 哈哈.
on
on |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 18 哈哈.. 我大概半年多一直都喜欢打 90人 24+2的, 因为打11+1的人有时候很CRAZY, 什
么牌都敢打敢跟, 24+2的不会那么CRAZY, 让我比较适应. 还有就是我打多了90人的,
就对这种90人的节奏和CHIPS 把握的好一点, 就一直没敢玩千人的.
后来看POKERYJJ打千人的打的很好, 才试着玩千人的, 哈哈. POKERRYY说的没错, 90人
的人少有好处, 但也有个坏处: 从剩2桌人开始, BIG BLIND太大. 除非你CHIPS第一多,
轮几圈你可能就没了. 所以比较BLOODY, 逼着你ALL IN 骗BLINDS. RASIE 3XBB 跟ALL
IN 差不多, 没什么意义.
千人的BB对CHIP的影响会小很多. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 也难说，那小子挺精的，也是big chip leader, 没准就装傻call，flop K 继续trap，
可能最后会搞得你很难受，起码1/3的stack得让他搞进去...唯一可能就是能够不严重
受伤，能熬个6，7名啥的。
..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
, |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 20 JQ is not worthy for 3xbb? I have position as well..
i think the best way is to fold after he raised you 3x before flop.
Because you did not reraise him on turn, it is no way to tell what he had.
It could be pocket paris or AK, AQ, AJ.
only if he has pocket pairs smaller than 9 you would win.
No |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 21 哈哈
故事很曲折：
第一把在turn拿到straight, 被一个拿两对的raise了， 我call, river我又来了同花
， 结果两对的来了full house, 输了40bb。
然后很郁闷， 后来在button拿到AK, 前面两个4bb， 我剩40bb就all了， 被一个疑是
中国人的家伙用66 call 了， 我在turn有2 high card+flush draw， 但是没来， 输
了。
后来又放入80bb, UTG拿到AA, 3xbb, 被这个仇人和另外一个call 了， flop Jc7c6d,
check 到仇人， 他bet 8bb, 另外一个call, 我raise 到28bb, 仇人call, 另外一个
all in 80 bb, 我想了半天， 不服， call 了，仇人也call了， 大家亮牌， 仇人67s
, 两对， 另外一个QTs flush draw, 我想， 又tmd的玩完了。
借个turn, 8, river 8, 被俺赢了， 哈哈哈。 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 22 not long after another tourney exit with KK @ button to SB w/ Td-8d, flop 7d
-9d-Qs,
bet pot got check-raise all in. had to call and outdrawn. pre 3xbb. ftp own
me two. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 23 in $50k madness, got a decent stack, but lose a few all-in pots to short
stacks
during bubble time: AJ v.s. AQ, AKs v.s. 9-9, then hit a run of card drought
, and
eventually busted at around 300th.
The AJ vs AQ really made me wonder whether I had made some mistake. at mid
position
2, I open raise 3xbb with AJ, stack size about 30bb, blinds level 400/800
ante 100.
button shove with 12bb, both blinds folded, pot odd looks good, but I did
feel huge
underdog calling the all in, tough decision there. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 24 starting hand of sng final table
dealt AKs at UTG, M=7, open raise 3xbb,
UTG+1 shove all in instantly (m=6.5), table M is from 2 to 7.
everyone else folded.
does not have a read on utg+1, should I fold or call? |
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l*********l
发帖数: 15 | 25 前不久打的一次NL500 cash game, me BB with 58spades, UTG+1 3x bets, one
caller before me, i called. flop: Qs6c7c, UTG+1 3xBB bet, one fold, I bet
9xBB testing whether he has a Q or sets(QcXc or something or a pair of 6 or
7). He thinks and calls. Got me thinking he has tptk with a flush draw. Turn
a 6s. I bet 10xBB to keep my draw live, he calls. Rivered a 4h, I hit my
draw to have a straght now and so sure I am ahead. I checked, he bet another
10xBB, i raised 20xBB. He thinks long and then calls. At th... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 26 call me weak nor not. How can you play 67s at UTG+1 and open up with a 3xBB
in NL500? I guess that is why I don't play NL500. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 i guess it's ok to mix up in some cases, it's better than limping and
getting popped IF we plan to play this hand from this position.
3xBB |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 how many get paid? 70? if so, i tend to fold. you still got 15BB, not too
bad.
3xBB raise -> double-> all-in (3800+)... looks like a made hand for me,
hands like AJ/AT/KQ/99... are not likely.
) |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 29 I think that's because most wsop $10k entries are from satellites,so they
care cashing.If you play your normal bankroll like $24,$75 token tourment in
Fulltilt, it's totol nonsense to throw away As when you are in bubble
facing allins. You are making a couple bucks at bottom of the money for
hours of grinding. Forget about miracle, you basically got no chance for
winning if short-stacked going in. All people can call you 3xBBs allin and
check it down.
10K
they
dragon
most |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 30 FTP, $26 single table SNG, 9 players, 1500 chips.
early in tourney, 20/40 blinds, every one folded to me at cutoff with A4o.
sensed it might be early and ppl play in a tighter mode, raised 3xBB to 120.
only SB called.
flop: KJ4 rainbow. SB checked, i made a continuation bet of 200 for a 260
pot, hoped to finish here with position.
SB smooth called, well, i was almost done with this hand.
turn: A. SB checked again, hmm, interesting now. fired again with value this
time, 400 (pot 660).
SB took a w |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 觉得很多人都只看到了他的“粗”(aggressive, low starting hand standard)，俺倒
觉得他玩的是粗中有细，对position的真正理解利用很牛，还有你说的prefect read，
此外，他和dan harrington都是以前玩那个什么backgammon出家的，习惯性计算概率什
么的比一般人快。
pre-flop，他很多时候都在LP 3xBB，4xBB with trash (J6o, K7s, 33)，尽管名声在
外，live tournament反倒很少有人(包括不少pros) jump on top re-raise。经常最多
是plain call，然后在flop上weak check让他轻松的一个continuation bet收关，至多
到turn，而且到turn，明显gus的嗅觉很灵敏，要想disguise a monster to trap他很
难很需要勇气。太多即使是pro对手过于怕他，给了太多的credits than he deserves.
所以这么搞下来，他实际上赢了很多small pots(尤其是ante是他的最爱) w |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 and this time, UTG puts a 3xBB raise first.. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 1. it's more likely a probe bet than value. like if u bet pre-flop, he calls
. now there's an A on the flop, he's betting (size is the key) to see if you
really have an Ax hand or weaker hand like JJ, TT.
2. pretty standard, BB should not let SB in cheaply. with position over SB,
BB gets a lot of room to play post flop. or, if SB folds, win right here.
3. a call for 3xBB from SB is always a strong singal, unless he's really
donk.
4. depends on board texture (flush/straight draw?), it could be 50 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 34 昨天13500KO有两把关键手打得极臭。
QJo at SB，MP guy (loose aggressive, all-in with bottom pair, but has big
stack) raises 3xBB, one short stack shoves with 2BB，i think for a min and
fold, BB calls.
board: JJT-7-2, BB bets on turn and kicks MP out. BB has 33 and shove guy
got J3o.
这把也就算了，毕竟俺stack还不错。
另一把，也是QJo，UTG limps，i limp(有点怕后面一小子), SB and BB in too.
flop: Q7s5s，UTG bets 2/3 pot，i put him on a weaker Q and raise double, he
hesitates but calls. turn is 9s, he shoves last 2000, i barely cover him
and call.. |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 35 AC 打过一次$200BUY IN 的TOURNAMENT, AA PREFLOP RAISE 3XBB, 被33搞死掉, 从此
就被伤到了, 之后就再没去玩过了.
Satellite BUY IN 是多少? 我也想去啊. 哈哈.
on
on |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 36 哈哈.. 我大概半年多一直都喜欢打 90人 24+2的, 因为打11+1的人有时候很CRAZY, 什
么牌都敢打敢跟, 24+2的不会那么CRAZY, 让我比较适应. 还有就是我打多了90人的,
就对这种90人的节奏和CHIPS 把握的好一点, 就一直没敢玩千人的.
后来看POKERYJJ打千人的打的很好, 才试着玩千人的, 哈哈. POKERRYY说的没错, 90人
的人少有好处, 但也有个坏处: 从剩2桌人开始, BIG BLIND太大. 除非你CHIPS第一多,
轮几圈你可能就没了. 所以比较BLOODY, 逼着你ALL IN 骗BLINDS. RASIE 3XBB 跟ALL
IN 差不多, 没什么意义.
千人的BB对CHIP的影响会小很多. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 也难说，那小子挺精的，也是big chip leader, 没准就装傻call，flop K 继续trap，
可能最后会搞得你很难受，起码1/3的stack得让他搞进去...唯一可能就是能够不严重
受伤，能熬个6，7名啥的。
..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
, |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 38 JQ is not worthy for 3xbb? I have position as well..
i think the best way is to fold after he raised you 3x before flop.
Because you did not reraise him on turn, it is no way to tell what he had.
It could be pocket paris or AK, AQ, AJ.
only if he has pocket pairs smaller than 9 you would win.
No |
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