o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 1 Our city requires it.
I think it is stupid.
The three year vaccine has some risks. The one year kind is not risk free
but smaller risk.
Science has shown that vaccines last a long time, the one year one actually
lasts at least three years, if not longer.
Given yearly Rabies vaccines to cats have more risk than benefit IMO, given
that cats are mostly kept indoors.
Also the public heath concern makes no sense - there are at least 10 stray
cats in the neighbourhood but who is vaccinating them annually?
Thinking of breaking the law. |
m**u
发帖数: 6829 | 2 我们这里也要打，完全没道理嘛。我家猫好好的在家，哪来的rabies？ |
t*****u
发帖数: 8966 | 3 我也记得好像是药啊，rabies啊，实际时间比要求时间长
所以我家猫，不去医院不打针 |
t*****u
发帖数: 8966 | 4 但是
家里来朋友一定都会事先说明，或者把猫关进卧室
因为万一万一碰到猫咬了抓了的，要是碰到一个不易不闹的朋友，也会麻烦
先把好自己这关 |
a********a
发帖数: 3176 | 5 我们3年前打了个一年的, 前两天刚送去又打了个一年的. 打算过两年再打下一针.
我们完全INDOOR.
actually
given
【在 o**s 的大作中提到】
: Our city requires it.
: I think it is stupid.
: The three year vaccine has some risks. The one year kind is not risk free
: but smaller risk.
: Science has shown that vaccines last a long time, the one year one actually
: lasts at least three years, if not longer.
: Given yearly Rabies vaccines to cats have more risk than benefit IMO, given
: that cats are mostly kept indoors.
: Also the public heath concern makes no sense - there are at least 10 stray
: cats in the neighbourhood but who is vaccinating them annually?
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d********o
发帖数: 1436 | 6 我的公寓楼很大，偶尔我会放沫沫出去在我那一层的走廊里溜溜，走廊里铺的地毯，有
人定期清理地毯，一周2次的样子，这样算是严格indoor不？ |
r*****l
发帖数: 856 | 7 我们打的是三年的。。。
是这样的，我本来也不愿意打，但是把猫带过去做annual exam的时候（因为买了保险
必须要），我家喵很生气，把vet咬破皮了，结果就被观察14天，还说现在你们必须打
，不然他们就report animal control神马的，所以立马约了14天后过去打狂犬，我们
后来觉得他家charge太黑了，决定去别的地方打疫苗，打电话过去，又被前台威胁说你
们如果不出现我们就report! 于是又被迫过去他家打的T_T
前阵子版上不也有弄伤pet sitter，被report，然后还是被迫打的么？
我觉得啊。。如果猫不接触家人以外的人可以不打，不然，就怕出这种意外，讲都讲不
清，弄得人心慌慌的，怕惹上个强硬派让猫受罪或者put down （当时那个vet前台就是
这么吓我的，说狗咬人，他们有权力直接Put down如果没有狂犬疫苗的话，不知道真的
假的）。。。 |
p*****t
发帖数: 3693 | 8 这家vet太黑了。我的猫vaccine过期三年了，这中间看过好几次病，医生也没说啥。
当然她也没抓过人就是......
【在 r*****l 的大作中提到】
: 我们打的是三年的。。。
: 是这样的，我本来也不愿意打，但是把猫带过去做annual exam的时候（因为买了保险
: 必须要），我家喵很生气，把vet咬破皮了，结果就被观察14天，还说现在你们必须打
: ，不然他们就report animal control神马的，所以立马约了14天后过去打狂犬，我们
: 后来觉得他家charge太黑了，决定去别的地方打疫苗，打电话过去，又被前台威胁说你
: 们如果不出现我们就report! 于是又被迫过去他家打的T_T
: 前阵子版上不也有弄伤pet sitter，被report，然后还是被迫打的么？
: 我觉得啊。。如果猫不接触家人以外的人可以不打，不然，就怕出这种意外，讲都讲不
: 清，弄得人心慌慌的，怕惹上个强硬派让猫受罪或者put down （当时那个vet前台就是
: 这么吓我的，说狗咬人，他们有权力直接Put down如果没有狂犬疫苗的话，不知道真的
|
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 9 我们这里猫不需要打针
终于一年还是三年，其实瓶里的东西都是一模一样的。就是说无论你打三年还是一年都
一样。 这一点， 我的vet还特地帮我打电话问过药厂了，一年三年只是标签的不同而
已。
actually
given
【在 o**s 的大作中提到】
: Our city requires it.
: I think it is stupid.
: The three year vaccine has some risks. The one year kind is not risk free
: but smaller risk.
: Science has shown that vaccines last a long time, the one year one actually
: lasts at least three years, if not longer.
: Given yearly Rabies vaccines to cats have more risk than benefit IMO, given
: that cats are mostly kept indoors.
: Also the public heath concern makes no sense - there are at least 10 stray
: cats in the neighbourhood but who is vaccinating them annually?
|
o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 10 Thanks for the feedback everyone.
Our city requires every pet to be licensed, and license need to be renewed
every year, with proof of Rabies vaccination.
For those of you who vaccinate the three year one, my research says it is
not as safe as the one year vaccine because it uses chemical called adjuvant
to purposely cause inflammation.
The only "safe" one for cats is called "Purevax". Science suggests that it
is effective for at least three years or longer but legally it is only good
for a year.
I dun want to get in trouble, but I really dun want to give my cats a shot
every year because of the risks/side effects vs. benefits.
Here is one reference:
http://www.catinfo.org/?link=vaccines |
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o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 11 I think the dead viruses might be the same, but the 3 year one has additive?
I didnt do research on dogs, but for cats seems the only safe one is the one
year "purevax".
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 我们这里猫不需要打针
: 终于一年还是三年，其实瓶里的东西都是一模一样的。就是说无论你打三年还是一年都
: 一样。 这一点， 我的vet还特地帮我打电话问过药厂了，一年三年只是标签的不同而
: 已。
:
: actually
: given
|
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 12 我觉得疫苗值所以分三年一年的，是因为很多地方不承认三年期的疫苗。所以药厂就把
同样的产品贴上不同的标签，卖到不同的地区。
additive?
one
【在 o**s 的大作中提到】
: I think the dead viruses might be the same, but the 3 year one has additive?
: I didnt do research on dogs, but for cats seems the only safe one is the one
: year "purevax".
|
o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 13 Thanks all for the feedback on vaccination.
My other question is do you license your cats with the city, is it required
by your city?
Thanks! |
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 14 呵呵，我们这里猫想上证都没人理你。
狗上证是去村里的警察局，交八块钱。
required
【在 o**s 的大作中提到】
: Thanks all for the feedback on vaccination.
: My other question is do you license your cats with the city, is it required
: by your city?
: Thanks!
|
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 15 这个医生太黑了，去yelp上揭发吧。肯定吓跑一大堆顾客。
【在 r*****l 的大作中提到】
: 我们打的是三年的。。。
: 是这样的，我本来也不愿意打，但是把猫带过去做annual exam的时候（因为买了保险
: 必须要），我家喵很生气，把vet咬破皮了，结果就被观察14天，还说现在你们必须打
: ，不然他们就report animal control神马的，所以立马约了14天后过去打狂犬，我们
: 后来觉得他家charge太黑了，决定去别的地方打疫苗，打电话过去，又被前台威胁说你
: 们如果不出现我们就report! 于是又被迫过去他家打的T_T
: 前阵子版上不也有弄伤pet sitter，被report，然后还是被迫打的么？
: 我觉得啊。。如果猫不接触家人以外的人可以不打，不然，就怕出这种意外，讲都讲不
: 清，弄得人心慌慌的，怕惹上个强硬派让猫受罪或者put down （当时那个vet前台就是
: 这么吓我的，说狗咬人，他们有权力直接Put down如果没有狂犬疫苗的话，不知道真的
|
o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 16 You could be right.
This is quoted from the reference i gave above:
"There is only one suitable rabies vaccine and that is Merial's PureVax
rabies vaccine. This is a NON-adjuvanted vaccine.
DO NOT ALLOW AN ADJUVANTED RABIES VACCINE TO BE USED.
Unfortunately, the PureVax rabies vaccine only carries a 1-year rating even
though 2 studies have shown that it protects cats for much longer. This is
in contrast to the more dangerous adjuvanted rabies vaccines that carry a 3-
year rating.
Merial conducted 2 well-run studies showing that their PureVax rabies
vaccine protected all study participants from a challenge with the rabies
virus 3 years later. However 1 'control' (non-vaccinated) cat in each study
did not die from the rabies challenge. Therefore, Meriel was not granted a
3-year license for this vaccine. Good science shows that this vaccine is
protective for at least 3 years but legally, it is only labeled for 1 year
protection."
"As counter-intuitive as it may sound, it is much safer to administer a
PureVax vaccine yearly than it is to inject an adjuvanted rabies vaccine
every 3 years."
"If your cat has health issues and you live in an area where rabies
vaccination for cats is mandatory, ask your vet for a health waiver. Keep
in mind that only healthy cats are to receive vaccines and it states as such
on every bottle of every vaccine."
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得疫苗值所以分三年一年的，是因为很多地方不承认三年期的疫苗。所以药厂就把
: 同样的产品贴上不同的标签，卖到不同的地区。
:
: additive?
: one
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s*****d
发帖数: 2451 | 17 我是每年都按时打的。因为怕哪天万一不注意这傻孩子溜出去跟浣熊狐狸的打个招呼，
或者家里有蝙蝠飞进来……
另外说一句，如果家里有蝙蝠飞进来，不知道国内，在北美，百分之九十以上带狂犬。
如果有臭鼬大白天出来在你院子里溜达，百分之九十带狂犬。所以，千万别自己处理，
找control！ |
m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 18 臭鼬蝙蝠得了狂犬也没事？
【在 s*****d 的大作中提到】
: 我是每年都按时打的。因为怕哪天万一不注意这傻孩子溜出去跟浣熊狐狸的打个招呼，
: 或者家里有蝙蝠飞进来……
: 另外说一句，如果家里有蝙蝠飞进来，不知道国内，在北美，百分之九十以上带狂犬。
: 如果有臭鼬大白天出来在你院子里溜达，百分之九十带狂犬。所以，千万别自己处理，
: 找control！
|
s*******j
发帖数: 342 | 19 蝙蝠好像就是携带，不发病
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 臭鼬蝙蝠得了狂犬也没事？
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x********u
发帖数: 15396 | 20 狗的疫苗1年和3年的是一模一样的东西,就是标签不同
猫的有两种，一种和狗的一样
一种猫专用，1年和3年的不一样 |
s*****d
发帖数: 2451 | 21 他们都携带了也没事。会传染，但是感染率不是必然。但是有的时候stress了也会发病
。这个时候就非常危险了。比如毛彭起来，失去方向，神经系统问题。出现在不该出现
的时间地点，万一看见，揪住狗，赶紧跑。
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 臭鼬蝙蝠得了狂犬也没事？
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o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 22 I do believe that cats and dogs need to be vaccinated because this is such a
serious disease. Question is how often is necessary, considering benefit vs
. risks.
The other consideration is the incidence of rabies in cats/dogs in each
states compare to the chances bats get indoors or indoor cats escapes.
I know in our neighborhood there are more stray cats than indoor pet cats.
These cats are obviously not vaccinated and much more dangerous to public
health.
【在 s*****d 的大作中提到】
: 我是每年都按时打的。因为怕哪天万一不注意这傻孩子溜出去跟浣熊狐狸的打个招呼，
: 或者家里有蝙蝠飞进来……
: 另外说一句，如果家里有蝙蝠飞进来，不知道国内，在北美，百分之九十以上带狂犬。
: 如果有臭鼬大白天出来在你院子里溜达，百分之九十带狂犬。所以，千万别自己处理，
: 找control！
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