f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？ | L****n
发帖数: 490 | | k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 3 俺就117新币这么点家当了, 全捐了, 都给版面吧.
特别谢谢POKERYJJ和FRYKING, POKERYJJ最近打千人的经验贴子看了后受益良多!
打到最后PATIENCE 很重要. FRYKING看的时候也不断提醒.
死在第4名的明显有点崩溃了,BEFORE FLOP 她 A5 REAISE, 我的KK RERAISE CALL 她
ALL IN 后, 她居然CALL了. 其实她剩的钱那时应付10 轮BIG BLIND绰绰有余.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 4 这是从第二名跌到不知第几名的一手牌.
那时还有3~4桌人. 这把打下来后我就有ALL IN 骗
BLIND的冲动了. 不过还好忍住了. | q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 5 gxgx
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 俺就117新币这么点家当了, 全捐了, 都给版面吧.
: 特别谢谢POKERYJJ和FRYKING, POKERYJJ最近打千人的经验贴子看了后受益良多!
: 打到最后PATIENCE 很重要. FRYKING看的时候也不断提醒.
: 死在第4名的明显有点崩溃了,BEFORE FLOP 她 A5 REAISE, 我的KK RERAISE CALL 她
: ALL IN 后, 她居然CALL了. 其实她剩的钱那时应付10 轮BIG BLIND绰绰有余.
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 6 打到越后面越是要注意不要头脑发热, 还剩2桌人的时候 我是叫我LP帮忙打的, 我就在
一边看着, 哈哈.. 换换脑子, 不至于太紧张冲动. FINAL TABLE 刚开始的时候我是第
八名. SB/BB被吃了好几轮, 没有崩溃 ALL IN. 直到AQ RAISE 4XBB, 我AK ALL IN, 赢
了, 排到第五名. 这样CHIPS 比BIG BLIND 多好多, 就好打多了. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 haha,
gxgx.
Those days I ran badly. Entering Final table as chip leader, and coming out
as 8th, or 6th, just totally nonsense.
Yeah, you are right, playing tight on Final table is the correct way to play
it.
And even you have only 10bb, and do not win any pot and do not play any pot,
still can get 6th. Playing smart, you can get 1st.
And 9th can never be good, the payout structure is usually ridiculous.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 打到越后面越是要注意不要头脑发热, 还剩2桌人的时候 我是叫我LP帮忙打的, 我就在
: 一边看着, 哈哈.. 换换脑子, 不至于太紧张冲动. FINAL TABLE 刚开始的时候我是第
: 八名. SB/BB被吃了好几轮, 没有崩溃 ALL IN. 直到AQ RAISE 4XBB, 我AK ALL IN, 赢
: 了, 排到第五名. 这样CHIPS 比BIG BLIND 多好多, 就好打多了.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 8 kkrun runs hot. KO 4th, 3rd guy
baozi. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 你今天打得真是完美，牌也特合作，尽管俺从你100K的时候看就捏把汗，呵呵。
前天那回8000 guarantee $3 rebuy，ATo死在bubble挺可惜的，俺一遍JJWW就是怕有在
某把上演。
你FINAL TABLE太冷静了，尤其re-raise的那把，赞，熬到冠军真是实力尽现！
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 俺就117新币这么点家当了, 全捐了, 都给版面吧.
: 特别谢谢POKERYJJ和FRYKING, POKERYJJ最近打千人的经验贴子看了后受益良多!
: 打到最后PATIENCE 很重要. FRYKING看的时候也不断提醒.
: 死在第4名的明显有点崩溃了,BEFORE FLOP 她 A5 REAISE, 我的KK RERAISE CALL 她
: ALL IN 后, 她居然CALL了. 其实她剩的钱那时应付10 轮BIG BLIND绰绰有余.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 俺叫俺老丈人在一边看，说学习学习，不要在3.3的小比赛折腾了，提高水平。(另外，
求您不要再输急了又去糟蹋俺的$26 token了)。
结果他老人家点头称是，“看来要赢大钱得打人多的比赛...”
俺咣当，昏迷不醒。
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: kkrun runs hot. KO 4th, 3rd guy
: baozi.
| | | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | | p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 12 牛，贺喜。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 13 cong~
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 14
out
When i was in final table and looked at the payout structure, i told myself
that i must end in the first 3 positions. The rewards for the 4th, 5th and
the others are just way off balance.
play
pot,
Yes, waiting for others to die also pushes you up on payout structure.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: haha,
: gxgx.
: Those days I ran badly. Entering Final table as chip leader, and coming out
: as 8th, or 6th, just totally nonsense.
: Yeah, you are right, playing tight on Final table is the correct way to play
: it.
: And even you have only 10bb, and do not win any pot and do not play any pot,
: still can get 6th. Playing smart, you can get 1st.
: And 9th can never be good, the payout structure is usually ridiculous.
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 15 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
AJ.
昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你今天打得真是完美，牌也特合作，尽管俺从你100K的时候看就捏把汗，呵呵。
: 前天那回8000 guarantee $3 rebuy，ATo死在bubble挺可惜的，俺一遍JJWW就是怕有在
: 某把上演。
: 你FINAL TABLE太冷静了，尤其re-raise的那把，赞，熬到冠军真是实力尽现！
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 16 哈哈.. 我大概半年多一直都喜欢打 90人 24+2的, 因为打11+1的人有时候很CRAZY, 什
么牌都敢打敢跟, 24+2的不会那么CRAZY, 让我比较适应. 还有就是我打多了90人的,
就对这种90人的节奏和CHIPS 把握的好一点, 就一直没敢玩千人的.
后来看POKERYJJ打千人的打的很好, 才试着玩千人的, 哈哈. POKERRYY说的没错, 90人
的人少有好处, 但也有个坏处: 从剩2桌人开始, BIG BLIND太大. 除非你CHIPS第一多,
轮几圈你可能就没了. 所以比较BLOODY, 逼着你ALL IN 骗BLINDS. RASIE 3XBB 跟ALL
IN 差不多, 没什么意义.
千人的BB对CHIP的影响会小很多.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺叫俺老丈人在一边看，说学习学习，不要在3.3的小比赛折腾了，提高水平。(另外，
: 求您不要再输急了又去糟蹋俺的$26 token了)。
: 结果他老人家点头称是，“看来要赢大钱得打人多的比赛...”
: 俺咣当，昏迷不醒。
| l**********t
发帖数: 269 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 也难说，那小子挺精的，也是big chip leader, 没准就装傻call，flop K 继续trap，
可能最后会搞得你很难受，起码1/3的stack得让他搞进去...唯一可能就是能够不严重
受伤，能熬个6，7名啥的。
..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
,
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
: 最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
: 他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
: 总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
: AJ.
: 昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
: 的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 呵呵，偷偷观摩你打$26 90SNG很多次，觉得你打得很不错，想学习学习。
千人的比赛就是很熬时间耐心，玩一把基本上一天的时间进去了，最后搞个10-20名左
右，挣钱很少，最后的ladder太陡，final table第一和第九差10几倍的收入，final
table以外和100来名的差距可以忽略不计，最多百来块，和投入比极不协调。
KO倒是不错，至少打死一堆人，把本给捞回来。
多,
ALL
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈.. 我大概半年多一直都喜欢打 90人 24+2的, 因为打11+1的人有时候很CRAZY, 什
: 么牌都敢打敢跟, 24+2的不会那么CRAZY, 让我比较适应. 还有就是我打多了90人的,
: 就对这种90人的节奏和CHIPS 把握的好一点, 就一直没敢玩千人的.
: 后来看POKERYJJ打千人的打的很好, 才试着玩千人的, 哈哈. POKERRYY说的没错, 90人
: 的人少有好处, 但也有个坏处: 从剩2桌人开始, BIG BLIND太大. 除非你CHIPS第一多,
: 轮几圈你可能就没了. 所以比较BLOODY, 逼着你ALL IN 骗BLINDS. RASIE 3XBB 跟ALL
: IN 差不多, 没什么意义.
: 千人的BB对CHIP的影响会小很多.
| d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 20 真乃牛人也
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| | | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 21 Yeah, you are super right.
if you get 10th-18th, that sucks. If 9th, or 8th, that really really sucks.
However, however, if you can win one 1st, that is awesome.
KO is good, partially because of the bounty, and partially because the game is a little bit easier, from my experience.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，偷偷观摩你打$26 90SNG很多次，觉得你打得很不错，想学习学习。
: 千人的比赛就是很熬时间耐心，玩一把基本上一天的时间进去了，最后搞个10-20名左
: 右，挣钱很少，最后的ladder太陡，final table第一和第九差10几倍的收入，final
: table以外和100来名的差距可以忽略不计，最多百来块，和投入比极不协调。
: KO倒是不错，至少打死一堆人，把本给捞回来。
:
: 多,
: ALL
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 Do not know how many blinds you have, if 12bb or less, I guess it is ok to
allin there.
If you have 7th chips, I guess you have around 12BB, it is an OK move.
Since he can 3bet light, or call you light and out flop you. Since he is chip leader, he might call you very light, and out flop u.
All in bet can maximize your fold equity, it is just unfortune that he
picked up a hand dominating u. He may fold KJ , K10, QJ there, after flop it
is really really hard to play AT.
..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
: 最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
: 他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
: 总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
: AJ.
: 昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
: 的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 23 My 1st hand against Michael Craig. Sometimes re-reraise does not mean much.
Really depends on how many blinds do you have. If I have 10BB, if I get
reraised by big stack, I will go all way with A10, especially short table. However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
If I really want to go all the way with A10, then I will shove for sure.
Full Tilt Poker Game #10701495905: Midnight Madness! (79712939), Table 26 -
5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:40:34 ET - 2009/02/18
Seat 2: pok
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 前天那把AT 我是DEALER POSITION, 是想骗BLINDS的. SB (SMALL BLIND,别误会HAHA..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用ALL IN 的方式来骗确实很脑残.
: 最好的打法是PRE-FLOP我RAISE 3XBB, 他再RERAISE 我3X, 我就FOLD 给他. HAHA.., 那时候还有10个人, 我CHIP第7~8名, 损失3XBB对我影响不大.
: 他有KK, FLOP 是AKX.
: 总的来说AT可玩性不高, 桌子上有A, 别人BF能CALL你的RAISE, 那就还可能是AK, AQ,
: AJ.
: 昨天那把AT FLOP的时候桌子上也是AKX, 但TURN的时候又来T, 那时候我知道我是最大
: 的了,RAISE他CALL IN. 结果RIVER 来K, 他AJ 还是赢了.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 24 90人: 的人少有好处, 但也有个坏处: 从剩2桌人开始, BIG BLIND太大. 除非你CHIPS
第一多,
ALL
around 5-8bb., MTT can have around 8-18BB for everybody.
but MTT's payout structure usually crazy. If you manage to get down to 18PPL
left, the money is still trivial. However, 90PPL game, the top 4's payout
is very good as usual.
Chip up and survive are always contradict each other. I can not balance it
very well.
千人的BB对CHIP的影响会小很多.----yeah, it is.
But still around 15BB or so
for most of ppl. If you raise 3BB, and continuation bet 4- | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 25 When I first play big MTT, I usually can go very deep, because I just allin
when I have some sort of hands. At that time, I just played Freeroll, allin is my way to play freeroll. However, when I know payout, and a little about game, I become cautious, and never goes deep.
Therefore, maybe your 老丈人 can win one big MTT. Not joking. Just like
Jerry Yang can win Wsop, apparently he is not the best in the field. :)
But in the long run, the skills dominate.---You should mention it to your 老
丈人 also
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺叫俺老丈人在一边看，说学习学习，不要在3.3的小比赛折腾了，提高水平。(另外，
: 求您不要再输急了又去糟蹋俺的$26 token了)。
: 结果他老人家点头称是，“看来要赢大钱得打人多的比赛...”
: 俺咣当，昏迷不醒。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 Usually only top 3 get big award.
And be careful about the bully also. Sometimes, chip leader always pick on
2nd chip leader, because he knows that 2nd guy does not want to get out as
3rd or 4th.
Days ago, I watched 5200$ buy-in Final table on FTP
4 guy left
roothlus 1.6M chips button
netherland guy 800k chips BB
Russian buddy 240k chips
US guy 410k chips SB
roothlus raise button about 3bb 36k
netherland guy repop 100k
roothl | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 没记错的话，当时KKRUN大概还有500K chips，20+BB，前5左右的样子，还剩10来人，
SB刚赢了个大pot，1000K出头，chip leader。
比较难受的一把，SB re-shove倒还是好的，KKRUN有一定的可能fold，flop了以后更难
决定。
chip leader, he might call you very light, and out flop u.
it
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Do not know how many blinds you have, if 12bb or less, I guess it is ok to
: allin there.
: If you have 7th chips, I guess you have around 12BB, it is an OK move.
: Since he can 3bet light, or call you light and out flop you. Since he is chip leader, he might call you very light, and out flop u.
: All in bet can maximize your fold equity, it is just unfortune that he
: picked up a hand dominating u. He may fold KJ , K10, QJ there, after flop it
: is really really hard to play AT.
:
: ..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 没错，一pro就写了他如何4-bet with air when blinds are small-medium。扑克真是
个斗智斗勇的游戏，研究对手状态太重要。
.
However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: My 1st hand against Michael Craig. Sometimes re-reraise does not mean much.
: Really depends on how many blinds do you have. If I have 10BB, if I get
: reraised by big stack, I will go all way with A10, especially short table. However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
: If I really want to go all the way with A10, then I will shove for sure.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #10701495905: Midnight Madness! (79712939), Table 26 -
: 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:40:34 ET - 2009/02/18
: Seat 2: pok
| A**U
发帖数: 1116 | | k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 30 哈哈.. 学习说不上, 我也常打烂牌. 今天凌晨你也看到了, $10+2 DAILY DOUBLE 剩
16人, 我第10名, 在SB position before flop 用8Ts ALL IN 骗 BB的BLIND... 够脑
残吧. 那时候凌晨两点了, 脑子发沉发热, 没耐心也没状态了.
我打牌就是泥腿子出身, 没看过书,没系统学习过,所以才会象上面那样时不时出昏招.
如果按照一定策略打.. 象最后2桌就 TIGHT AND AGGRESSIVE, 就不会用8T ALL IN
骗BB了. 这也是打完后才想明白的. HAHA..
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，偷偷观摩你打$26 90SNG很多次，觉得你打得很不错，想学习学习。
: 千人的比赛就是很熬时间耐心，玩一把基本上一天的时间进去了，最后搞个10-20名左
: 右，挣钱很少，最后的ladder太陡，final table第一和第九差10几倍的收入，final
: table以外和100来名的差距可以忽略不计，最多百来块，和投入比极不协调。
: KO倒是不错，至少打死一堆人，把本给捞回来。
:
: 多,
: ALL
| | | k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 31 他是小赌你没大牌, 你是大赌他在BLUFFING, 虽然赢了, 但还是很危险啊.
.
However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: My 1st hand against Michael Craig. Sometimes re-reraise does not mean much.
: Really depends on how many blinds do you have. If I have 10BB, if I get
: reraised by big stack, I will go all way with A10, especially short table. However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
: If I really want to go all the way with A10, then I will shove for sure.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #10701495905: Midnight Madness! (79712939), Table 26 -
: 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:40:34 ET - 2009/02/18
: Seat 2: pok
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 32 If I fold this time, next time he will raise again. So, I need put a stand
and telling him do not raise. And you can not always wait, and sometimes you
need put some advertisement, raise and fold. And in this way, you will get
paid with your strong hands.
Should say I play very cautiously against him. But he is very aggressive,
very hard to play with.
That is the reason I said in my post, I regreted to play a pot against him
with 77, and I should fold pre.
Later on, I played a huge pot with him,
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 他是小赌你没大牌, 你是大赌他在BLUFFING, 虽然赢了, 但还是很危险啊.
:
: .
: However, if I have 15bb, I might fold to re-raise.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 不觉得，呵呵，那把你好像还剩11BB，button，SB剩7BB。而且你已经几乎fold了2圈了。
唯一的“疑点”就是你好像很少用all-in(即使BB不多)来代表强牌。多数都是3，4x，
然后call。又偏巧在众目睽睽的button，比你还short的SB，也正好拿了Ax。即使是这
样，8Ts也不是大落后，对付两张over cards，40%：60%，这种时候赌一把也没什么。
倒是你们桌特搞笑，那个最后的chip leader频频steal，让一桌人re-steal揍得鼻青脸
肿，可是架不住人家后来连来4，5把monster，大家顿时晕掉，呵呵，AK vs. QQ那把，
QQ在xAK-K-x的turn上shove 18BB，呵呵。
.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈.. 学习说不上, 我也常打烂牌. 今天凌晨你也看到了, $10+2 DAILY DOUBLE 剩
: 16人, 我第10名, 在SB position before flop 用8Ts ALL IN 骗 BB的BLIND... 够脑
: 残吧. 那时候凌晨两点了, 脑子发沉发热, 没耐心也没状态了.
: 我打牌就是泥腿子出身, 没看过书,没系统学习过,所以才会象上面那样时不时出昏招.
: 如果按照一定策略打.. 象最后2桌就 TIGHT AND AGGRESSIVE, 就不会用8T ALL IN
: 骗BB了. 这也是打完后才想明白的. HAHA..
| d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 34 very nice
you
get
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: If I fold this time, next time he will raise again. So, I need put a stand
: and telling him do not raise. And you can not always wait, and sometimes you
: need put some advertisement, raise and fold. And in this way, you will get
: paid with your strong hands.
: Should say I play very cautiously against him. But he is very aggressive,
: very hard to play with.
: That is the reason I said in my post, I regreted to play a pot against him
: with 77, and I should fold pre.
: Later on, I played a huge pot with him,
| k********g
发帖数: 2534 | 35 wow
恭喜恭喜
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 36 狂顶啊！发现这里有不少tournament大牛啊（比如还有pokeryjj)，期待你们的文章。
你们在ring game里是不是也很牛？
fryking：我就是happyness，那个id不用了，帮我在置顶名单里改一下吧，谢谢。最近
实在太忙，看到这么好的战绩，很鸡动啊，咔咔。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1528人，冠军，$6570.40外带斩人无数($4/each)， 精彩，发包子吧？
| p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 37 你一直观战啊？能方便地自动跟踪某id么？准备下次现场助威，呵呵。
了。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 不觉得，呵呵，那把你好像还剩11BB，button，SB剩7BB。而且你已经几乎fold了2圈了。
: 唯一的“疑点”就是你好像很少用all-in(即使BB不多)来代表强牌。多数都是3，4x，
: 然后call。又偏巧在众目睽睽的button，比你还short的SB，也正好拿了Ax。即使是这
: 样，8Ts也不是大落后，对付两张over cards，40%：60%，这种时候赌一把也没什么。
: 倒是你们桌特搞笑，那个最后的chip leader频频steal，让一桌人re-steal揍得鼻青脸
: 肿，可是架不住人家后来连来4，5把monster，大家顿时晕掉，呵呵，AK vs. QQ那把，
: QQ在xAK-K-x的turn上shove 18BB，呵呵。
:
: .
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 38 俺一般就看看最后阶段，那个牛人又靠近大钱了，呵呵。
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 你一直观战啊？能方便地自动跟踪某id么？准备下次现场助威，呵呵。
:
: 了。
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 39 In that situation there is no way to fold 1010.
To my experience QK is always a bad hand for all in. If someone calls, most
likely he has better hands, like AK, AQ, or pairs.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Usually only top 3 get big award.
: And be careful about the bully also. Sometimes, chip leader always pick on
: 2nd chip leader, because he knows that 2nd guy does not want to get out as
: 3rd or 4th.
: Days ago, I watched 5200$ buy-in Final table on FTP
: 4 guy left
: roothlus 1.6M chips button
: netherland guy 800k chips BB
: Russian buddy 240k chips
: US guy 410k chips SB
| k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 40 That is really what I should build into my blood - Play cautiously, never go
deep.
I know the principle but sometime my bad habbit still takes over me.
This week my most painful experience is that I accumulated the big stakes by
playing strong hands cautiously, never going all in before flop, then lost
all by going all in with a lousy hand against a conservative guy. And my
chips sent the guy to 3rd place with the reward >$5000. With my chips in
hands, he was able to keep folding and folding un
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: When I first play big MTT, I usually can go very deep, because I just allin
: when I have some sort of hands. At that time, I just played Freeroll, allin is my way to play freeroll. However, when I know payout, and a little about game, I become cautious, and never goes deep.
: Therefore, maybe your 老丈人 can win one big MTT. Not joking. Just like
: Jerry Yang can win Wsop, apparently he is not the best in the field. :)
: But in the long run, the skills dominate.---You should mention it to your 老
: 丈人 also
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 41 hehe, your self control/discipline is way much better than me...
yeah, it'll be a long game and have to be focused all the way, crucial hands
are just a few.
go
by
lost
to
QQ, and AK.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: That is really what I should build into my blood - Play cautiously, never go
: deep.
: I know the principle but sometime my bad habbit still takes over me.
: This week my most painful experience is that I accumulated the big stakes by
: playing strong hands cautiously, never going all in before flop, then lost
: all by going all in with a lousy hand against a conservative guy. And my
: chips sent the guy to 3rd place with the reward >$5000. With my chips in
: hands, he was able to keep folding and folding un
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 42 Oh.
You did not pay attention to the stack size, and payout structure.
QK is bullying here, not because of his hand value. He can call or fold.
If 1010 loses, it is a 200k$ call.
Anyway, 1010 calls, and after 1 hour, he wins the champ, 620K$
ruthless(QK guy, very famous online player) gets 2nd, 380K$
I do not know, should be a tough call for 1010.
Similar situation, on sunday 500k garantee because of the FTOP.
final 3 left.
SB 3.5Million
BB 0.9Million
Button 3Million
Blinds around 40k
Button rai
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: In that situation there is no way to fold 1010.
: To my experience QK is always a bad hand for all in. If someone calls, most
: likely he has better hands, like AK, AQ, or pairs.
| p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 43 if we should never/seldom go deep, does that mean we should not play knock
out tournament? that effectively dilutes the money if we do not knocking out
enough people. | p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 44 Do you mean the 3rd's pay is too less compared the first two positions?
===
I guess even button has AK or JJ, he can not call there. Because of the
payout structure.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Oh.
: You did not pay attention to the stack size, and payout structure.
: QK is bullying here, not because of his hand value. He can call or fold.
: If 1010 loses, it is a 200k$ call.
: Anyway, 1010 calls, and after 1 hour, he wins the champ, 620K$
: ruthless(QK guy, very famous online player) gets 2nd, 380K$
: I do not know, should be a tough call for 1010.
: Similar situation, on sunday 500k garantee because of the FTOP.
: final 3 left.
: SB 3.5Million
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 45 20k+ different
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: Do you mean the 3rd's pay is too less compared the first two positions?
: ===
: I guess even button has AK or JJ, he can not call there. Because of the
: payout structure.
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