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_Stockcafeteria版 - 美国股民如何大幅减税 (ZT)
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839
1
报税的日子来了,如果你是美国纳税人,且在去年做了200笔交易以上不管你是亏还是
挣的,介绍的方法可能可以给你省一大笔美国税。IRS在1997-98 年为DTers定了新的
Rules。不详细说了,要点如下:
1. 如果你是比较频繁的炒股者,就可以把炒股当成一个生意来报税;
2. 大概要200笔以上才比较好,笔数越多越好;
3. 即使你有别的FULL TIME工作也没关系,就好比你有工作但是又开了一个公司一样;
4. 你可以在SCHEDULE C里面填上公司名字为“TRADER IN SECURITIES”,IRS就知到你
是炒股的了;
5. 你可以把家里的长途电话费,cell phone, 网费,CABLE TV买电脑,电视机,家具
等办公用品,电费水电费,你的房贷保险,汽车MILEAGE,和朋友吃饭讨论股票.....都
在SCHEDULE C里报成公司成本减税。但是UTILITIES和房子-HOME OFFICE要和你的
OFFICE面积/房子总面积成比例,你还能报房子的折旧费用,你参加炒股学费, Travel
等.....
6. 如果你亏的比较大而且有别的收入,正常报税一年只能抵3
S******t
发帖数: 8388
2
即使自己没有注册公司也可以?
我还在想要注册一个公司呢。
w*******r
发帖数: 1699
3
这个我以前也看到过, 但是觉得h1b, f1之类的算full time工作,不可以有别的工作的,
俺们HR在我来的第一天就说了.
T*********s
发帖数: 17839
4
i never tried it
maybe somebody can make it more clear
and any drawbacks?

【在 S******t 的大作中提到】
: 即使自己没有注册公司也可以?
: 我还在想要注册一个公司呢。

S******t
发帖数: 8388
5
这几天报税报得我眼都直了,正在考虑以后少交易呢。
有谁试过这个?这个文章从哪里转来的?
T*********s
发帖数: 17839
6
check with qiuyueshifu etc
see how he deal with tax

【在 S******t 的大作中提到】
: 这几天报税报得我眼都直了,正在考虑以后少交易呢。
: 有谁试过这个?这个文章从哪里转来的?

d**o
发帖数: 113
7
1. 最少需要绿卡吧.参照公司成立流程.
2. 记得DTER 不是你自己说是就是的.好象要什么程序.大牛解释下?
N*******s
发帖数: 563
8
古板精华区就有

【在 S******t 的大作中提到】
: 这几天报税报得我眼都直了,正在考虑以后少交易呢。
: 有谁试过这个?这个文章从哪里转来的?

L****8
发帖数: 79
9
这个要好好学习了,mark一下。
c**t
发帖数: 9197
10
you do not need to register a company to do so.
you can just use schedule C like mentioned before.
The trick is all your lost/expense is on schedule C. all your profit is on
schedule D as capital gain.
The only draw back of not register company is that your health insurance
premium is not tax deductible. And you can not start an 401K account on this
business to defer/shelter Tax on your profit.
Everything else is the same.
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o******e
发帖数: 525
11
那还有谁会受3000 loss的限制呢,这么做是不是有啥不好的影响?

this

【在 c**t 的大作中提到】
: you do not need to register a company to do so.
: you can just use schedule C like mentioned before.
: The trick is all your lost/expense is on schedule C. all your profit is on
: schedule D as capital gain.
: The only draw back of not register company is that your health insurance
: premium is not tax deductible. And you can not start an 401K account on this
: business to defer/shelter Tax on your profit.
: Everything else is the same.

S******t
发帖数: 8388
12
要是我已经有了TAX SHELTERED ANNUITY account 怎么办呀?
这到底和算不合算?

this

【在 c**t 的大作中提到】
: you do not need to register a company to do so.
: you can just use schedule C like mentioned before.
: The trick is all your lost/expense is on schedule C. all your profit is on
: schedule D as capital gain.
: The only draw back of not register company is that your health insurance
: premium is not tax deductible. And you can not start an 401K account on this
: business to defer/shelter Tax on your profit.
: Everything else is the same.

k*****h
发帖数: 135
13
Is this ZT from HT? it was pretty old post, back to 2008(??)
Anyway, be careful, "TRADER IN SECURITIES”might trigger AMT, and get
attention from IRS auditor.
Here's IRS Topic 429 link, in regarding of trader in securities.
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc429.html
c**t
发帖数: 9197
14
It is a lot harder to claim "trader" status with IRS.
most people can not do that.
Most Pro traders make money. so either 3K limit or MM accounting
are not attractive to them.
They just need to write off expenses so the profit get less taxed.
As for tax defer account, it is the one attached to this business.
not other business or your personal account.
Also, you will be more likely to get IRS audit if claim as trader.
so be prepared too.
S******t
发帖数: 8388
15
注册公司就会好些了吧?比如说可以有tax defer account?
c**t
发帖数: 9197
16
Yes, most CPA suggest that so you can show IRS that
you are serious about making it a business.
But if you register as corporation. you need to file separate
tax for that and costing is higher.
you should consult a CPA for more info.
And do not use business as a way to recoup loss, but as a way to minimize
tax on your profit.
S******t
发帖数: 8388
17
谢谢。:-)
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