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vvluo (vvluo) 于 (Tue Jan 26 16:16:31 2010, 美东) 提到:
http://www.popyard.com/cgi-mod/newspage.cgi?num=464593&r=0&v=0
我们Local的两所排名前十的高中都位于最坏的区（学区坏，房价低，不安全）， 而且
贫困学生比例，少数族裔比例都特别高。别的州也是这样吗？
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sissymom (sleepy......why!) 于 (Tue Jan 26 16:19:09 2010, 美东) 提到:
我们城里最好的高中据说排名８００多，嘿嘿
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vvluo (vvluo) 于 (Tue Jan 26 16:31:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
排名８００多是很好的学校了。我们买得算比较好的学区（十分的学校），可是高中根
本排不上号（1500名以后吧）。那两所好学校要考的， 那个所在区太恐怖了。
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sissymom (sleepy......why!) 于 (Tue Jan 26 16:35:00 2010, 美东) 提到:
地方和地方不一样，我们这里两个比较好的高中，都在好学区，相对房价低，比较安全
的镇上。
不过仅仅从硬件和升学的角度看，８００多和１０００多的高中，似乎也没什么明显区
别。
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:08:24 2010, 美东) 提到:
我们的高中榜上有名哈， 接近80%的老中和烙印， 少数族裔比例没法不高
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izze (唐外婆) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:13:51 2010, 美东) 提到:
我们州那个第10名高中，在西雅图东边最富区，且lottery 入学
ft
有时又我想，如果真的是纯lottery，那么每个学校都应该有潜力办的这么好
为什么办不好呢？
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vvluo (vvluo) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:16:32 2010, 美东) 提到:
住在那儿， 就可以进吗， 不用考试？
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:18:27 2010, 美东) 提到:
不用， 美国公立学校不都是按片区上学的吗？
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sing (CD) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:36:28 2010, 美东) 提到:
of course no
those super good high school, many has selective admission
I never heard of lottery in NJ/NYC
kids have to take academic tests and send in application to be considered,
of course u have to live in the place that public high school serves
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fanseadog (明太后) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:41:33 2010, 美东) 提到:
那个学校据说是bellevue一个老师对公立系统不满意，按照自己理念创办的。应该还是
和其他学校在教育方针上有一定差别吧。
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:47:43 2010, 美东) 提到:
ah, 貌似我们这个好像就是住那就上那， 不用再额外考试了， 擦把汗。。。
我一直以为额外考试的都是private high school
public的就是按片区+lottery
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Richella (家有超级乖宝) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:48:44 2010, 美东) 提到:
可是它还是属于公立学校系统里的啊？
那个学校据说特别注重academic，课外活动选择比较少。
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sing (CD) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:52:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
there are many magnet school in the list ah
magnet is public, but u have to take tests or they check your past academic
record to decide.
or like this:
http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/new-york-city-rivals-share-a-desire-to-be-tops.html
the Bronx High School of Science and Stuyvesant High School.
"Fewer than 10 percent of the more than 20,000 eighth and ninth graders
taking the annual admission test will score above the cutoff point"
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sing (CD) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:53:16 2010, 美东) 提到:
this one:
http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-top-open-enrollment-schools.html
Open enrollment schools educate any student who resides within their region
as long as those students meet minimum eligibility requirements.
academic
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 17:59:55 2010, 美东) 提到:
I see。 长知识了。
幸好我们的高中是这个open enrollment的， 我这个非推妈可以喘口气
region
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poolfish (没有) 于 (Tue Jan 26 19:00:59 2010, 美东) 提到:
我其实还是不明白，是不是住在那边就可能进去了？到底进这个magnet或者charter有
什么要求呢？
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 19:12:24 2010, 美东) 提到:
我的理解是这样的， 就public school而言， 有这么三种：
charter school：
Charter schools are public schools that have been released from some of the
regulations governing other public schools as long as they succeed in
meeting the criteria agreed upon in their original charter. Charter schools
tend to have limited enrollment and usually accept students through an
application process.
top charter schools在这里： http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-top-open-enrollment-schools.html
magnet school：
Magnet schools are public high schools that attract the most talented
students in a region using an application process that typically involves
test scores and grade-point averages.
top magnet schools在这里： http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-top-magnet-schools.html
open enrollment school：
Open enrollment schools educate any student who resides within their region
as long as those students meet minimum eligibility requirements.
top open enrollment schools在这里： http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-top-open-enrollment-schools.html
通俗一点讲， chart 和 magnet的入学都是有筛选过程的。 而open-enrollment
school基本上就是你住那你就可以上了。三种学校都有很好的。
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pixixi (yes，我不是推妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 19:15:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
从经济上来分析的话， top open enrollment school附近的区应该比较好， 房价应该
偏高
而charter school和magnet school附近的区却不一定这样，所以猜测楼主所说的那两所
高中应该是属于charter school或magnet school。
the
schools
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Playingcard (醒醒吧) 于 (Tue Jan 26 21:34:56 2010, 美东) 提到:
在Local排前十？没法比较啊
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FridayFriday (不抛弃，不放弃) 于 (Tue Jan 26 21:40:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
我们这里也很奇怪，现在这个top100都没有我们州的了，呵呵省心了
这个好像是公立私立合在一起的排名？
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thelishier (u r my angel) 于 (Tue Jan 26 22:26:02 2010, 美东) 提到:
asian不是minority啊
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littleice (两个宝的妈) 于 (Tue Jan 26 22:27:08 2010, 美东) 提到:
我们这里太落后，上次听一个朋友说，我们区最好的高中大概全国能排到1000，有可能
出了1000。隔壁很荒的镇有个国家实验室，据说那里的高中能排到300名。不过离孩子
上高中还有很多年呢，谁知道到时候在哪啊。
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vvluo (vvluo) 于 (Wed Jan 27 00:11:34 2010, 美东) 提到:
是Local的两所magnet school 排名全美前十。都要考试才能进。
问题是这两所magnet school 所在的ISD的其他学校（除了一个特别豪宅区）都特别滥
， 不太有中国人印度人买在那里。那两所super学校老黑，老墨比例很高。我猜小孩子
在那里排top10比在中国人印度人扎堆的排名全美一千的学校也许还容易些呢。
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poolfish (没有) 于 (Wed Jan 27 00:16:30 2010, 美东) 提到:
谢谢，谢谢，我们这里唯二上版的两所学校一个是charter一个是magnet.我不知道
magnet的考分标
准是怎么样，但是我确定的是charter是lottery进的。
the
schools
schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-top-open-enrollment-
schools.html
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kekeland (IMN) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:15:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
check this out.
很多人问来着:
Why High Schools Move in and out of the Rankings
December 11, 2009 02:14 PM ET | Robert Morse | Permanent Link | Print
Since the release of our new 2010 America's Best High Schools listings, a
frequent question has been why schools rise or fall in the rankings. There
are three main reasons a school changed its place or lost its place entirely
in the 2010 America's Best High Schools rankings.
1. Changes in relative performance on state tests
Some schools fell off the list altogether because they are no longer among
the best-performing schools on their statewide tests—meaning that their
overall student performance on state tests did not exceed statistical
expectations (step 1) or the performance of their least advantaged students
was not as good as the state average (step 2). Without successfully meeting
both of these two state-test-focused steps, schools are not eligible for any
medal recognition, although they are still evaluated independently on their
college readiness to determine whether they merit honorable mention. In
some cases, schools that earned medals last year but had a lower performance
on state tests earned honorable mention status this year. Read the America'
s Best High Schools ranking methodology for more details.
According to Paul Gazzerro, the lead analyst at Standard & Poor's who worked
in partnership with U.S. News, this is what happened to three Maryland high
schools that went from gold medal status in the 2009 ranking to honorable
mention in the 2010 rankings.
"In Maryland, the High School Assessment (HSA) results for 2007-08 (used for
the 2010 list of America's Best High Schools) were marked by improvements
in performance from the prior year for most schools across the state,"
Gazzerro said, "This improvement, which for most schools was significant,
was nonetheless uneven—some schools improved more than others. The three
schools in the Bethesda area-Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, and Winston
Churchill-all experienced an improvement in their students' performance on
the HSA reading and math subject tests, but not as much as that achieved by
schools with similar levels of student poverty. As a result, these schools
went from exceeding statistical expectations in 2006-07 (i.e., meeting step
1 of our criteria) to meeting expectations in 2007-08 (i.e., failing to meet
step 1). This is not to say that their performance was bad, simply that it
was not quite good enough. As to honorable mention status, their step 3
performance ( their College Readiness Index, which measures the percentage
of students both taking and passing at least one AP or IB exam during high
school) was among the top 100 schools in the country; had they met step 1,
they would have again been gold medal schools."
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FridayFriday (不抛弃，不放弃) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:27:01 2010, 美东) 提到:
那三所学校附近的学区我们也买不起，所以就算了，不想了，呵呵
entirely
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EnjoyMyLife (实心团子实心人) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:29:44 2010, 美东) 提到:
看了一下，CA,TX的几所高中排名都非常非常靠前啊
为啥CA人说学校不好非上私立不可呢？
求解惑
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FridayFriday (不抛弃，不放弃) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:33:23 2010, 美东) 提到:
可能那些好学校压力太大了吧？
其实好学校也不合算，这里要算percentage，不象以前国内是全国统考，上了重点自然
考分就高。这里也不是就看一个SAT的
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EnjoyMyLife (实心团子实心人) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:35:46 2010, 美东) 提到:
我第一个RM的儿子，今年要上大学了
好像就是那个no 1 高中
人说还是很累，而且显不出优势来，小孩对自己的自信不够强
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FridayFriday (不抛弃，不放弃) 于 (Wed Jan 27 10:39:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
我前老板的儿子是那个学校出来的，没考上MIT去了Duke，不是一般的郁闷，:(
压力是很大，不过他成绩很好，所以信心爆棚，竟然在申请MIT的时候没有要求面试，
直接导致被拒，:(((
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springwinter (summer) 于 (Wed Jan 27 11:09:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
咦，
前几年不都是有top1000的排名数据嘛，今年咋只有top100了？
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cheerios (早饭要吃好) 于 (Wed Jan 27 11:24:07 2010, 美东) 提到:
chart school 和magnet school很多都是要抽签的，因为要上的人太多了
the
schools
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dumble (你快乐所以我快乐) 于 (Wed Jan 27 13:35:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
NOD，NOD，我们同事孩子就在那个学校，本来想去UVA的，最后没去成。
每个学校去高中招人好象都有QUOTE的，据说UVA每年在TJ招２００个人左右，这两年经
济不好，很多本来可能去私立的都去了公立的，所以他就没戏了，其实如果呆在HOME
SCHOOL到是有可能去。我们邻居的孩子今年要考了，他就呆在HOME SCHOOL，不愿意去
TJ，看看他怎么样了
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Playingcard (醒醒吧) 于 (Wed Jan 27 15:09:11 2010, 美东) 提到:
生源有限，academic 也不难，这两个学校还能排名那么好？
完全困惑了
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tomjerry (Tom) 于 (Wed Jan 27 15:32:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
好学区的房子贵买不起啊.
而且我们是高中还好, 小学不好, 所以以后多半高中要回来上公立, 小学还得上私立. |
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