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_Auto_Fans版 - Subaru要上1.6T了?
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t******k
发帖数: 5617
1
http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201406/817575.html
车托之家的文章,里面还有功率扭矩图。
碳大来说说这个发动机怎么样?
l**4
发帖数: 2989
2
subaru的T都要premium gas,sti上用好油可以理解,outback forester这种菜车
还要premium就有点过分了,纸面数据上油耗低点,实际上不省钱啊
希望目前的2.5L能再多用很多年

【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201406/817575.html
: 车托之家的文章,里面还有功率扭矩图。
: 碳大来说说这个发动机怎么样?

D***0
发帖数: 5214
3
日规levorg上已经用上的FB16 DIT
http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/1.6engine.html 点下面的“性能曲线”

【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201406/817575.html
: 车托之家的文章,里面还有功率扭矩图。
: 碳大来说说这个发动机怎么样?

D***0
发帖数: 5214
4
离题一下。虽然同样觉得subaru家的CVT不该跟sportscar组合,但是根据这里:
http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/2.0engine.html
levorg 2.0DIT+CVT(sport version)配合的是45:55的VTD-AWD系统,就是原来在5AT的3
.6R和tribecca上用的那个。一直以为只要是CVT都是60:40的Active AWD系统。根据
subaru美国自己的官方信息,forester XT和wrx的号称高扭矩cvt版本都是Active AWD
。这又是一个地域歧视事件??
http://goo.gl/ulKcKH
t******k
发帖数: 5617
5
我们这里油价4.1-4.3,现在premium和regular只差10个cent,加10gallon才差1刀,没
什么区别啊。

【在 l**4 的大作中提到】
: subaru的T都要premium gas,sti上用好油可以理解,outback forester这种菜车
: 还要premium就有点过分了,纸面数据上油耗低点,实际上不省钱啊
: 希望目前的2.5L能再多用很多年

t******k
发帖数: 5617
6
我怀疑明年2016 forester的小改款会上1.6T.有可能以后forester会两年升级engine两
年升级车体。

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 日规levorg上已经用上的FB16 DIT
: http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/1.6engine.html 点下面的“性能曲线”

t******k
发帖数: 5617
7
可能是技术还没有转化过来,现在levorg上试水

的3
AWD

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 离题一下。虽然同样觉得subaru家的CVT不该跟sportscar组合,但是根据这里:
: http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/2.0engine.html
: levorg 2.0DIT+CVT(sport version)配合的是45:55的VTD-AWD系统,就是原来在5AT的3
: .6R和tribecca上用的那个。一直以为只要是CVT都是60:40的Active AWD系统。根据
: subaru美国自己的官方信息,forester XT和wrx的号称高扭矩cvt版本都是Active AWD
: 。这又是一个地域歧视事件??
: http://goo.gl/ulKcKH

c*********r
发帖数: 19468
8
pretty impressive
DI turbo with an exceptionally high compression ratio of 11.0

【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201406/817575.html
: 车托之家的文章,里面还有功率扭矩图。
: 碳大来说说这个发动机怎么样?

c*********r
发帖数: 19468
9
not really, according to the official website, the FB16 DIT doesn't require
premium gas. regular gas would do...

【在 l**4 的大作中提到】
: subaru的T都要premium gas,sti上用好油可以理解,outback forester这种菜车
: 还要premium就有点过分了,纸面数据上油耗低点,实际上不省钱啊
: 希望目前的2.5L能再多用很多年

c*********r
发帖数: 19468
10
the wrx cvt has the same 45:55 vtd awd too

的3
AWD

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 离题一下。虽然同样觉得subaru家的CVT不该跟sportscar组合,但是根据这里:
: http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/2.0engine.html
: levorg 2.0DIT+CVT(sport version)配合的是45:55的VTD-AWD系统,就是原来在5AT的3
: .6R和tribecca上用的那个。一直以为只要是CVT都是60:40的Active AWD系统。根据
: subaru美国自己的官方信息,forester XT和wrx的号称高扭矩cvt版本都是Active AWD
: 。这又是一个地域歧视事件??
: http://goo.gl/ulKcKH

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本田/丰田为什么不舍得给CamCord上AWD?今天第一次见了fr-s
新WRX到60需要上第三档,所以0-60才慢的14 forester XT?
搞到一个Legacy的报价,就是想先试驾一下。subaru的那个levorg有可能以五门wrx/sti的面目来美国么?
p*********e
发帖数: 32207
11
我们这儿premium和reguar差40cent
大概是3.7 vs 4.1这样
高10%+了

【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: 我们这里油价4.1-4.3,现在premium和regular只差10个cent,加10gallon才差1刀,没
: 什么区别啊。

t******k
发帖数: 5617
12
差这么多!顺便羡慕嫉妒低油价~

【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】
: 我们这儿premium和reguar差40cent
: 大概是3.7 vs 4.1这样
: 高10%+了

t******k
发帖数: 5617
13
这样的话看来真的是要用来取代FB25的了

require

【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: not really, according to the official website, the FB16 DIT doesn't require
: premium gas. regular gas would do...

D***0
发帖数: 5214
14
之前放的官网链接太长mitbbs处理不了。这个短点
http://goo.gl/ulKcKH
Active Torque Split
Models that use it: All 2014 models, and the 2015 WRX, that are equipped
with the Lineartronic® continuously variable transmission (CVT).
不过确实查到有些新闻报道说是VTD AWD。

【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: the wrx cvt has the same 45:55 vtd awd too
:
: 的3
: AWD

c*********r
发帖数: 19468
15
How about the official press release?
2015 SUBARU WRX® MAKES WORLD DEBUT AT LOS ANGELES AUTO SHOW
New platform offers a stiffer, more agile chassis for Subaru global
performance icon
New torque-vectoring system reduces understeer
New 268-hp 2.0-liter direct-injection turbo BOXER engine
New standard 6-speed manual transmission
New Sport Lineartronic® CVT with manual modes
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 20, 2013 – Subaru of America, Inc. today introduced the
2015 WRX, a more powerful and better handling version of the brand's iconic
high-performance model, at the Los Angeles Auto Show. Powered by a new 268-
horsepower 2.0-liter direct-injection turbo BOXER engine, the 2015 WRX
debuts the model's first six-speed manual transmission and a new, optional
performance automatic transmission, the Sport Lineartronic CVT with two
manual modes.
With its bold new wide-body sedan design and expanded performance envelope,
the 2015 WRX marks a major evolutionary step for the rally-bred performance
car that has become a global automotive legend. For 2015, the Subaru WRX
employs a new torque-vectoring system that supplements the standard
Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive system. Torque vectoring allows for improved
cornering speeds and handling. The new and stiffer chassis, larger brakes,
performance-tuned suspension and a driver-focused interior remain integral
to the WRX performance character. The new powertrain also yields higher fuel
efficiency than the previous model.
At the same time, a roomier interior, upgraded cabin comfort and materials
and a wide array of new user technologies give the new WRX a more refined
feel. A harman/kardon® premium audio system is offered for the first
time in a WRX.
The 2015 WRX design deftly blends an aggressive stance with a sophisticated
sport sedan theme. The new WRX features a much bolder front design with a
deep front spoiler and unique grille. The wide-body stance seen on the
previous model is enhanced with new, standard 17-inch wheels. The hood,
front fenders, rear doors and quarters, bumpers, headlights and taillight
clusters are all unique to the 2015 WRX.
Specially designed for the 2015 WRX, the rear doors and fenders continue the
model's wide-body stance in a rakish new profile. The Subaru hexagonal
grille is flanked by narrower headlights designed to evoke a raptor's stare.
The functional hood scoop, which supplies the intercooler with fresh air,
is now set more deeply into the hood to provide better forward visibility.
Other new performance-oriented details include foglight surrounds with a
carbon fiber-like pattern and vertical front fender vents that feature a
bright garnish and a mesh screen. Higher-grade models use new LED low-beam
headlights; halogen lights are used on other models. The side sill spoilers
that help to visually lower the car also help protect the doors from rock
chips.
New standard 17-inch wheels feature a more aerodynamic design. At the rear,
LED taillights, a diffuser, LED center high-mount stoplight (CHMS) and an
available lip spoiler leave a distinctive signature.
The new WRX body structure makes greater use of high-tensile strength steel
than the previous model and features special stiffening elements at key
locations. Combined with the new Electronic Power Steering system, specially
tuned suspension and 235/45 R17 94W Dunlop SP Sport Maxx RT tires, the
stiffer chassis yields steering response that was benchmarked against top-
handling sports cars.
The new WRX 2.0-liter, 4-cylinder BOXER engine uses a combination of direct
fuel injection, high compression (10.6:1), Subaru Dual Active Valve Control
System (D-AVCS), a twin-scroll turbocharger and an intercooler to achieve
outstanding performance and high efficiency. The engine produces 268
horsepower at 5,600 rpm, accompanied by a broad torque curve that peaks at
258 lb.-ft. over a 2,000-5,200 rpm engine speed range.
Based on the engine used in the new 2014 Forester 2.0 XT, the WRX version
uses different cams and higher-rate valve springs, among other enhancements,
to extend the performance envelope. The new 6-speed manual transmission
provides a wider ratio spread than the previous 5-speed and incorporates
several performance and durability improvements for this high-performance
application, including carbon synchronizers on first and second gears.
New Sport Lineartronic CVT
The 2015 WRX introduces the option of a new automatic transmission
engineered to enrich the performance-driving experience. The new Sport
Lineartronic CVT combines the benefits of a continuously variable
transmission (high fuel efficiency, ultra-smooth driving character) with the
choice of stepped automatic shifting eight pre-selected ratios (when in
Sport Sharp mode) and also 6-speed and 8-speed manual shifting modes using
steering wheel paddle switches.
Models with the Sport Lineartronic CVT also feature Subaru Intelligent Drive
(SI-DRIVE), a powertrain performance management system that allows the
driver to tailor the vehicle's driving characteristics by choosing from
among three selectable modes – "Intelligent," "Sport" and "Sport Sharp" –
using a switch on the flat-bottom steering wheel.
Two Versions of Symmetrical AWD
When equipped with the 6-speed manual transmission, the 2015 Subaru WRX uses
the brand's Continuous AWD version of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive. A
viscous coupling locking center differential nominally distributes torque 50
:50 front to rear, and Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) provides stability and
traction control. Should slippage occur, this system transfers more power
to the wheels with the best traction.
The new Sport Lineartronic CVT is teamed exclusively with the Variable
Torque Distribution (VTD) version of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive. A
planetary gear-type center differential and an electronically controlled
hydraulic transfer clutch control torque distribution between the front and
rear wheels. Under most conditions, VTD splits the torque 45:55, with the
rearward torque bias contributing to handling agility. The VTD system
continually optimizes torque distribution in response to driving conditions
and input from steering wheel angle, yaw and lateral g-force sensors.
Premium Cabin
A one-inch longer wheelbase than the previous WRX is a factor in providing a
markedly roomier cabin in the new model. The windshield is more raked than
before, with the A-pillar pulled forward nearly eight inches at the base for
better forward visibility, aided by a lower dashboard and narrower A-
pillars. Higher seating hip points, lower side sills and wider-opening doors
make ingress/egress easier. Rear seat passengers gain nearly two inches of
legroom, and trunk capacity is increased. A standard 60/40-split fold-down
rear seat extends the WRX sedan's versatility.
The high-performance feel starts as soon as the driver enters the 2015 WRX
and grips the new flat-bottom, leather-wrapped steering wheel, which offers
tilt and telescoping adjustments. The wheel integrates switches for audio
and Bluetooth® control.
Rich-looking appointments and details abound, including soft-touch materials
for the dashboard, door trim and center console armrest. Numerous
compartments located in and around the center console hold all manner of
personal items, such as phones, USB drives and MP3 players. The available
power sunroof opens one inch farther than on the previous WRX.
The dual gauge instrument layout features a 3.5-in. LCD central screen to
display various functions, including oil level, remaining washer fluid and
selected gear ratio. A new multi-information central display with 4.3-in.
LCD screen provides a multitude of vehicle system functions, including a
rear camera display, a boost gauge display, audio, Bluetooth and climate
control settings, and a VDC screen showing traction control operation. The
display can provide a vehicle self-check and maintenance reminder.
Whiplash-reducing front sport seats, covered in a new high-grip fabric,
feature separate tilt- and height-adjustable head restraints, a change from
the seats with integrated head restraints used before. Leather is available,
as is an 8-way power driver's seat.
Amenities that reflect the 2015 WRX's refined sport sedan positioning
include standard automatic climate control and available Keyless Access with
Push-button Start, heated front seats, power driver's seat, and a 440-watt,
9-speaker harman/kardon premium audio system and navigation with Aha®
smartphone integration.
Subaru Safety
Subaru's renowned safety package uses the brand's proven Ring Shaped Frame
Reinforcement body structure, which has been shown to excel in the new small
overlap test by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). In the
cabin, a driver's knee airbag is added to the roster of safety features that
includes front side pelvis/torso airbags and side curtain airbags that
offer front and rear outboard seat coverage.

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 之前放的官网链接太长mitbbs处理不了。这个短点
: http://goo.gl/ulKcKH
: Active Torque Split
: Models that use it: All 2014 models, and the 2015 WRX, that are equipped
: with the Lineartronic® continuously variable transmission (CVT).
: 不过确实查到有些新闻报道说是VTD AWD。

e**n
发帖数: 1326
16
nothing new here....when the regular subbies come to U.S. they will lose all
their VTD-AWD goodies and go with the simpler AWD.

的3
AWD

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 离题一下。虽然同样觉得subaru家的CVT不该跟sportscar组合,但是根据这里:
: http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/driving/2.0engine.html
: levorg 2.0DIT+CVT(sport version)配合的是45:55的VTD-AWD系统,就是原来在5AT的3
: .6R和tribecca上用的那个。一直以为只要是CVT都是60:40的Active AWD系统。根据
: subaru美国自己的官方信息,forester XT和wrx的号称高扭矩cvt版本都是Active AWD
: 。这又是一个地域歧视事件??
: http://goo.gl/ulKcKH

B*Z
发帖数: 7062
17
问几个小问题
1. 文章里面的惰轮是做什么用的?
2. 这个发动机的timing chain用什么驱动?我在图上没看到。
3. 这个水泵的链条在最外面,是否说明换water pump比较容易?这个pump是不是就在这
个pulley下面?
4. water pump pulley旁边的空管子是coolant去radiator的管子?dipstick旁边的是回
去的管子?
多谢了。

【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201406/817575.html
: 车托之家的文章,里面还有功率扭矩图。
: 碳大来说说这个发动机怎么样?

t******k
发帖数: 5617
18
@碳大 @胖搭

在这
是回

【在 B*Z 的大作中提到】
: 问几个小问题
: 1. 文章里面的惰轮是做什么用的?
: 2. 这个发动机的timing chain用什么驱动?我在图上没看到。
: 3. 这个水泵的链条在最外面,是否说明换water pump比较容易?这个pump是不是就在这
: 个pulley下面?
: 4. water pump pulley旁边的空管子是coolant去radiator的管子?dipstick旁边的是回
: 去的管子?
: 多谢了。

D*****I
发帖数: 8268
19
惰轮就是idler pulley,改变皮带角度而已
timing chain当然用链轮驱动。不暴露在外
pump说白了是个被皮带驱动的螺旋桨

在这
是回

【在 B*Z 的大作中提到】
: 问几个小问题
: 1. 文章里面的惰轮是做什么用的?
: 2. 这个发动机的timing chain用什么驱动?我在图上没看到。
: 3. 这个水泵的链条在最外面,是否说明换water pump比较容易?这个pump是不是就在这
: 个pulley下面?
: 4. water pump pulley旁边的空管子是coolant去radiator的管子?dipstick旁边的是回
: 去的管子?
: 多谢了。

B*Z
发帖数: 7062
20
多谢了。这么看H4如果head gasket不坏,保养起来还比较容易。把air box去掉就都可
以摸到了。有没有人注意到那个oil filter的地方?太贴心了。

【在 D*****I 的大作中提到】
: 惰轮就是idler pulley,改变皮带角度而已
: timing chain当然用链轮驱动。不暴露在外
: pump说白了是个被皮带驱动的螺旋桨
:
: 在这
: 是回

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