c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 1 之前Passat、Mazda6、Sonata、Fusion都换了吧,现在还有双叉臂前悬挂的买菜车吗? |
p********e 发帖数: 16048 | 2 link?
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 之前Passat、Mazda6、Sonata、Fusion都换了吧,现在还有双叉臂前悬挂的买菜车吗?
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 3 Honda的press release,自己找吧
【在 p********e 的大作中提到】 : link?
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 4 Chassis
Literally every aspect of the Accord's chassis was reviewed or redesigned to
create the best possible driving experience. Altogether, the highly rigid
unit-body, refined suspension technology and advanced electronics define the
2013 Accord chassis as the most capable in model history. The new Accord is
quieter and more responsive on city streets, smoother and more composed on
the highway, and even more faithful to the driver's wishes on winding roads.
New features for Accord include a MacPherson strut front suspension, a steel
and aluminum front subframe and electric power steering (EPS). Standard
Active Noise Control (ANC) and Active Sound Control (ASC) on both 4-cylinder
and V-6 models counteract engine noise, particularly at high rpm.
The lightweight MacPherson strut front suspension improves ride and handling
qualities while also reducing interior noise, vibration and harshness (NVH)
. The new aluminum and steel front subframe reduces weight and, in
conjunction with the new independent multi-link rear suspension, further
reduces NVH. Careful aerodynamic tailoring of the underbody and suspension
systems provides additional noise reductions.
The new EPS setup uses an electric motor to assist the rack-and-pinion
steering rather than the hydraulic assist of the previous Accord. The result
is reduced steering effort and fuel consumption, with improved precision,
feel and stability.
Alloy wheels are now standard across the Accord model range, and range in
size from 16 to 18 inches. Four-wheel disc brakes are also standard, as is
Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) with Brake Assist, a 4-channel Anti-lock
Braking System (ABS), Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) with
Traction Control, and a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS). Hill start
assist is also now standard on the Accord.
【在 p********e 的大作中提到】 : link?
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 7 一后驱,一前驱
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】 : 应该算是进步,宝马3不也用这玩意儿吗
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 9 我是说这个MacPherson并不太差,还能让车头轻点儿
【在 D*****I 的大作中提到】 : 一后驱,一前驱
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T*****g 发帖数: 1306 | 10 原来以前的菜车都是双叉臂的。。。
Mazda6的高配还是双叉臂吧?
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 之前Passat、Mazda6、Sonata、Fusion都换了吧,现在还有双叉臂前悬挂的买菜车吗?
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 11 现款Mazda6小改后就都是MacPherson了吧……
以前midsize买菜车还颇有些有双叉臂的,现在貌似绝种了
90年代连Civic这样的compact还有用双叉臂的呢
【在 T*****g 的大作中提到】 : 原来以前的菜车都是双叉臂的。。。 : Mazda6的高配还是双叉臂吧?
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 12 进步看怎么说,从厂家省成本的角度的确是进步了,从操控的潜力就是退步了
5系、7系、X5都是这代从MacPherson换到了双叉臂啦
其实,这对BMW倒不算什么,FWD比RWD更迫切的需要双叉臂
如果单讲操控潜力,操控最好的FWD大多数都还是双叉臂前悬挂
一是比MacPherson的torque steer小(RWD没这个问题)
二是比MacPherson悬挂几何精确,操控容易调校(FWD前轴负荷重,这个问题也更突出)
不过说白了,买菜车追求这些个都没什么用啦,厂家抛弃双叉臂也可以理解
就算我是负责买菜车的总工,我也会这么做啦
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】 : 应该算是进步,宝马3不也用这玩意儿吗
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T*****g 发帖数: 1306 | 13 哈哈,碳大的真实身份是负责什么的总工?
offroad division的?
还是高性能组老大?
出)
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 进步看怎么说,从厂家省成本的角度的确是进步了,从操控的潜力就是退步了 : 5系、7系、X5都是这代从MacPherson换到了双叉臂啦 : 其实,这对BMW倒不算什么,FWD比RWD更迫切的需要双叉臂 : 如果单讲操控潜力,操控最好的FWD大多数都还是双叉臂前悬挂 : 一是比MacPherson的torque steer小(RWD没这个问题) : 二是比MacPherson悬挂几何精确,操控容易调校(FWD前轴负荷重,这个问题也更突出) : 不过说白了,买菜车追求这些个都没什么用啦,厂家抛弃双叉臂也可以理解 : 就算我是负责买菜车的总工,我也会这么做啦
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 14 咣当……我只是打个比方而已……
【在 T*****g 的大作中提到】 : 哈哈,碳大的真实身份是负责什么的总工? : offroad division的? : 还是高性能组老大? : : 出)
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T*****g 发帖数: 1306 | 15 感觉我的saab 93操控也不错。。。
不过它也就是一MacPherson前悬挂。。。
没开过好车,不知道跟bmw和honda比是个什么水平。
出)
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 进步看怎么说,从厂家省成本的角度的确是进步了,从操控的潜力就是退步了 : 5系、7系、X5都是这代从MacPherson换到了双叉臂啦 : 其实,这对BMW倒不算什么,FWD比RWD更迫切的需要双叉臂 : 如果单讲操控潜力,操控最好的FWD大多数都还是双叉臂前悬挂 : 一是比MacPherson的torque steer小(RWD没这个问题) : 二是比MacPherson悬挂几何精确,操控容易调校(FWD前轴负荷重,这个问题也更突出) : 不过说白了,买菜车追求这些个都没什么用啦,厂家抛弃双叉臂也可以理解 : 就算我是负责买菜车的总工,我也会这么做啦
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p********e 发帖数: 16048 | 16 还有alloy变标配
听上去变化不大
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【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : Chassis : Literally every aspect of the Accord's chassis was reviewed or redesigned to : create the best possible driving experience. Altogether, the highly rigid : unit-body, refined suspension technology and advanced electronics define the : 2013 Accord chassis as the most capable in model history. The new Accord is : quieter and more responsive on city streets, smoother and more composed on : the highway, and even more faithful to the driver's wishes on winding roads. : New features for Accord include a MacPherson strut front suspension, a steel : and aluminum front subframe and electric power steering (EPS). Standard : Active Noise Control (ANC) and Active Sound Control (ASC) on both 4-cylinder
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