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c***z
发帖数: 6348
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是幼稚和ego的问题。
摘自http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/05/
Most of the time, when a group of people is disproportionately successful,
the cause isn’t any superiority of the average individual, but a trait of
the group: they help each other out. People tend to call these formations “
Mafia” where X might be an ethnicity, a school, or a company. Y
Combinator is an explicit, pre-planned attempt to create a similar network;
time will tell if it succeeds. True professions have it. Doctors look out
for the profession. With programmers, we don’t see this. There isn’t a
collective spirit: just long email flamewars about tabs versus spaces. We
don’t look out for each other. We beat each other down. We sell each other
out to non-technical management (outsiders) for a shockingly low bounty, or
for no reason at all.
In many investment banks, there’s an established status hierarchy in which
traders and soft-skills operators (“true bankers”) are at the top, quants
are in the middle, and programmers (non-quant programmers are called “IT”)
are even lower. I asked a high-ranking quant why it was this way, and he
explained it in terms of the “360 degree” performance reviews. Bankers and
traders all gave each other top ratings, and wrote glowing feedback for
minor favors. They were savvy enough to figure out that it was best for them
to give great reviews up, down, and sideways, regardless of their actual
opinions. Quants tended to give above-average ratings and occasionally wrote
positive feedback. IT gave average ratings for average work and plenty of
negative feedback. The programmers were being the most honest, but hurting
each other in the process. The bankers and traders were being political, and
that’s a good thing. They were savvy enough to know that it didn’t
benefit them to sell each other out to HR and upper management. Instead,
they arranged it so they all got good ratings and the business had to, at
baseline, appreciate and reward all of them. While it might seem that this
hurt top performers, it had the opposite effect. If everyone got a 50
percent bonus and 20% raise, management had to give the top people (and, in
trading, it’s pretty obvious who those are) even more.
c***z
发帖数: 6348
2
Let’s say that an investment bank tried to impose tech-company stack
ranking on its employees, associate level and higher. (Analyst programs are
another matter, not to be discussed here.) Realizing the mutual benefit in
protecting each other, the bankers would find a way to sabotage the process
by giving everyone top ratings, ranking the worst employees highly, or
simply refusing to do the paperwork. And good for them! Far from being
unethical, this is what they should do: collectively work The Business to
get what they’re actually worth. Only a programmer would be clueless enough
to go along with that nonsense.
c***z
发帖数: 6348
3
类似的智慧是
Never criticize your county on foreign soil.
自己人之间怎么闹都行,和老外抱怨中国就是缺心眼。
c***z
发帖数: 6348
4
Change "programmers" to "Chinese", and "Business" to "mainstream culture",
it still applies.
It’s that our weird ideology of “never get political” is actually
intensely political and renders us easy to abuse. Business naturally seems
to be at risk of anti-intellectual tendencies and, rather than fight back
against this process, we’ve amplified it just to enjoy the illusion of
being on the inside, among the “cool kids”, part of The Business.
c***z
发帖数: 6348
5
振聋发聩
The truth is, however, that most of white-collar work isn’t about
performing necessary tasks or about producing anything. It’s about managing
perceptions, helping one parochial warlord beat out another, and appearing
subordinate enough to (a) please one’s immediate manager, and (b) present a
positive image of that manager to his superiors. Most white-collar office
workers have to be present for 8 (or more) hours each day not because there
’s that much work (there usually isn’t) but because working fewer hours
would present the image that their bosses can’t control their charges. For
the white-collar worker, most of one’s “work” time is spent supporting
authority through sacrifice (most visibly, of time) rather than producing
anything real. Most of the stress doesn’t come from the tasks to be
performed, but from the chronic job of presenting oneself in a way that one
can acquire and maintain permission to do meaningful work。
s*********y
发帖数: 6151
6
给懒得看的人,总结起来就是要讲政治,不要闷着头干活。 完了
e**p
发帖数: 4259
7
一个被定格为'programmer'的人,想要鲤鱼跳龙门做‘trader’或'quant',没有那么
容易,即使他觉得自己有能力做

【在 s*********y 的大作中提到】
: 给懒得看的人,总结起来就是要讲政治,不要闷着头干活。 完了
T*****u
发帖数: 7103
8
我国管这个叫圈子。
M*********6
发帖数: 263
9
Thanks and mark.
h*******e
发帖数: 6167
10
这道理谁都懂,只不过有人不会做。
类似的例子:女人不要跟男人(除非是你爸)抱怨另一个女人不好;外地人不要跟北京
人抱怨另一个外地人不好;北大的不要跟清华的抱怨另一个北大的不好。。。
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o**********e
发帖数: 18403
11
赞! 求合集!
愿帮转。
c***z
发帖数: 6348
12
http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com
:)

【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】
: 赞! 求合集!
: 愿帮转。

e********3
发帖数: 18578
13
振聋发聩,我发现烙印和老中一个很大的区别就是,很多中国人不论男女老少一提中国
就是negativity,在老外面前讲的更带劲;我接触过的烙印以打计,一个这样的都没有
,偶尔提到印度的阴暗面也就是一带而过,或者顾左右而言他。

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【在 c***z 的大作中提到】
: 是幼稚和ego的问题。
: 摘自http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/05/
: Most of the time, when a group of people is disproportionately successful,
: the cause isn’t any superiority of the average individual, but a trait of
: the group: they help each other out. People tend to call these formations “
: Mafia” where X might be an ethnicity, a school, or a company. Y
: Combinator is an explicit, pre-planned attempt to create a similar network;
: time will tell if it succeeds. True professions have it. Doctors look out
: for the profession. With programmers, we don’t see this. There isn’t a
: collective spirit: just long email flamewars about tabs versus spaces. We

e********3
发帖数: 18578
14
烙印还有一条比较我佩服他们的就是不取anglo-saxon的名字,这里的烙印大家见过几
个取了mike,joe,jason这样名字的?所以我的名字很难读但是我就是没有anglo-
saxon的名字,大丈夫坐不改名行不改姓。

;

【在 c***z 的大作中提到】
: 是幼稚和ego的问题。
: 摘自http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/05/
: Most of the time, when a group of people is disproportionately successful,
: the cause isn’t any superiority of the average individual, but a trait of
: the group: they help each other out. People tend to call these formations “
: Mafia” where X might be an ethnicity, a school, or a company. Y
: Combinator is an explicit, pre-planned attempt to create a similar network;
: time will tell if it succeeds. True professions have it. Doctors look out
: for the profession. With programmers, we don’t see this. There isn’t a
: collective spirit: just long email flamewars about tabs versus spaces. We

y******r
发帖数: 634
15
这一段说的太真实了。天天都觉得一大半时间都没有做任何实在的事,真为自己感到悲哀

managing
appearing
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there
For

【在 c***z 的大作中提到】
: 振聋发聩
: The truth is, however, that most of white-collar work isn’t about
: performing necessary tasks or about producing anything. It’s about managing
: perceptions, helping one parochial warlord beat out another, and appearing
: subordinate enough to (a) please one’s immediate manager, and (b) present a
: positive image of that manager to his superiors. Most white-collar office
: workers have to be present for 8 (or more) hours each day not because there
: ’s that much work (there usually isn’t) but because working fewer hours
: would present the image that their bosses can’t control their charges. For
: the white-collar worker, most of one’s “work” time is spent supporting

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