D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 1 Sorry for not using Chinese. no chinese input here.
My co-worker writes weird code. For example, we are doing .net development,
he normally creates a blank aspx page without any controls and everything
was done in page behind; Change control properties at run time without
conditions. no comments in code either.
but recntly my boss is asking me to get involved to the project too. part of
the job is to modify his code. Seriously i feel depressed when I read his
code. It is very hard to follow his |
l*****4
发帖数: 25 | 2 Seems like a very common issue between different coders.
What I like to go about, if you ask me, is a more passive approach,
considering you are buddies.
Two things you can do to show him. 1. Keep bugging him, when it comes to his
codes. 2. Show him a good example of coding style in, e.g. indentation,
whitespace, commenting and OO structure etc., if you are going to work on a
shared code base. |
G******y
发帖数: 1831 | 3 很简单，这个是避免被layoff的好方法，公司里不少人都是
1.把简单东西复杂化 2.可以简化，系统处理的东西就是不动它
如此别人不好接手,他的位置就不容易更换，
特别是IT, 在这种大环境不好的情况下这么基本可以明哲保身了
我们大家也都要学着点，随时能找到好工作的大牛基本可以除外
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【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: Sorry for not using Chinese. no chinese input here.
: My co-worker writes weird code. For example, we are doing .net development,
: he normally creates a blank aspx page without any controls and everything
: was done in page behind; Change control properties at run time without
: conditions. no comments in code either.
: but recntly my boss is asking me to get involved to the project too. part of
: the job is to modify his code. Seriously i feel depressed when I read his
: code. It is very hard to follow his
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h**k
发帖数: 662 | 4 这样的人很多，写的code只有自己能用。最好别闹，常识开会的是时候随便提出来让你
boss给他一个project,就是document everything he has done.小心处理这中事情。 |
B*****g
发帖数: 34098 | 5 你干你的，别人干别人的。
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of
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: Sorry for not using Chinese. no chinese input here.
: My co-worker writes weird code. For example, we are doing .net development,
: he normally creates a blank aspx page without any controls and everything
: was done in page behind; Change control properties at run time without
: conditions. no comments in code either.
: but recntly my boss is asking me to get involved to the project too. part of
: the job is to modify his code. Seriously i feel depressed when I read his
: code. It is very hard to follow his
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s**m
发帖数: 1564 | 6 use neither of you or his coding standard. instead, follow the company's IT
department coding standard which you may find on company/department intranet
site. his habits are just different from yours, thus you need to
communicate with him. i am not defending him though, just want to say "
understanding each other".
by the way, I don't think some of his coding style is wrong. for example, my
work place request none or minimum comments. instead we require names to be
self-descriptive and use refac |
h**k
发帖数: 662 | 7 不要试图说服别人，这个压根没用。maybe find a way to avoid it is the best u
can do. |
D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 8 Thanks slim.
I agree with what you said.
Let me use a small example:
there is a radio button list. The page need do different thing based on
which option use selects. Boss asked me to add more options and re-arrange
the orders of the options. The page was created by him. I went to the design
mode and I realized the list items are populated in Page_Load one by one
although the items are static. Then the code will check the INDEX of the
selected items to perform different actions.
I feel depresse
【在 s**m 的大作中提到】
: use neither of you or his coding standard. instead, follow the company's IT
: department coding standard which you may find on company/department intranet
: site. his habits are just different from yours, thus you need to
: communicate with him. i am not defending him though, just want to say "
: understanding each other".
: by the way, I don't think some of his coding style is wrong. for example, my
: work place request none or minimum comments. instead we require names to be
: self-descriptive and use refac
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 9 Thanks Beijing.
I have to mention another problem.
My boss thinks we should learn from each other so anyone can be replaced at
any time. So he will ask me to do my buddy's task when he thinks necessary (
while i thinks not). it is like, my buddy designed and coded the whole
project, then some day my boss said OK donkey you start to work on this too.
but not completely handled to me. one day is worked by me, the other is
worked by him.
Guys, what will you do under such situation?
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你干你的，别人干别人的。
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 10 Not a .net developer but I think you may need to stay keen on
new techologies. Web development certainly advances quickly and
re-do the frameworks wouldn't be surprising. Maybe you should check
out to see if his way is the standard way in the indurstry.
course
since
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: Thanks Beijing.
: I have to mention another problem.
: My boss thinks we should learn from each other so anyone can be replaced at
: any time. So he will ask me to do my buddy's task when he thinks necessary (
: while i thinks not). it is like, my buddy designed and coded the whole
: project, then some day my boss said OK donkey you start to work on this too.
: but not completely handled to me. one day is worked by me, the other is
: worked by him.
: Guys, what will you do under such situation?
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 11 hehe, absolutely his way is standard. as i said i didn't do it this way
because of less time. and new design would have introduced new bugs.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Not a .net developer but I think you may need to stay keen on
: new techologies. Web development certainly advances quickly and
: re-do the frameworks wouldn't be surprising. Maybe you should check
: out to see if his way is the standard way in the indurstry.
:
: course
: since
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Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 12 I would just follow his coding convention for the time being, even if only
to avoid potential conflict. If I take over the whole project in the future,
I'll probably rewrite that code in my style. If not, that's fine.
Also you shoudn't blame the other programmer for anything. It's really the
manager who tries to make everyone replaceable. But then again the manager
has his perspective and concerns.
,
of
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: Sorry for not using Chinese. no chinese input here.
: My co-worker writes weird code. For example, we are doing .net development,
: he normally creates a blank aspx page without any controls and everything
: was done in page behind; Change control properties at run time without
: conditions. no comments in code either.
: but recntly my boss is asking me to get involved to the project too. part of
: the job is to modify his code. Seriously i feel depressed when I read his
: code. It is very hard to follow his
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 13 Thanks Zeratul.
You are right. I am trying to make myself cooled down. it is very hard to do
so though.
future,
【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】
: I would just follow his coding convention for the time being, even if only
: to avoid potential conflict. If I take over the whole project in the future,
: I'll probably rewrite that code in my style. If not, that's fine.
: Also you shoudn't blame the other programmer for anything. It's really the
: manager who tries to make everyone replaceable. But then again the manager
: has his perspective and concerns.
:
: ,
: of
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Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 14 Man, you sound like a 50-year-old programmer. Now this turns out to be a perfect chance to update yourself.
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, absolutely his way is standard. as i said i didn't do it this way
: because of less time. and new design would have introduced new bugs.
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 15 hehe, you didn't know the exact situation.
our jrun server license was about the expire and we had a lot of small forms
in jsp. I had to convert them to .NET before the license expired. I didn't
have enough time to re-create the forms in webform.
for the new project, we all use web forms ah.
【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】
: Man, you sound like a 50-year-old programmer. Now this turns out to be a perfect chance to update yourself.
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 16 i removed that post. hehe, after i read it again i feel i am too small-heart
-eye le. forget it.
【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】
: Man, you sound like a 50-year-old programmer. Now this turns out to be a perfect chance to update yourself.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 damn, typed a long one and system killed it...
well, in short, you shouldn't be mad at all.
you feel uncomfortable because he touched your "baby", but this baby is a 怪
胎 anyway in the first place.
you didn't have time to do it and now he has, and he's doing in a more .NET
standard way, then just "happily" let him go ahead (and do all the dirty
work) since he's your buddy.
tell boss this is such a great chance to improve the legacy system.
heart
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: i removed that post. hehe, after i read it again i feel i am too small-heart
: -eye le. forget it.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 FT, that's why i got "wrong re article #" error and lost my reply, FT, hehe.
heart
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: i removed that post. hehe, after i read it again i feel i am too small-heart
: -eye le. forget it.
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 19 lol. sorry about that, zhixin jiejie
hehe.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: FT, that's why i got "wrong re article #" error and lost my reply, FT, hehe.
:
: heart
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 20 en, very zhixin.
you should have a column on a newspaper or something
NET
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: damn, typed a long one and system killed it...
: well, in short, you shouldn't be mad at all.
: you feel uncomfortable because he touched your "baby", but this baby is a 怪
: 胎 anyway in the first place.
: you didn't have time to do it and now he has, and he's doing in a more .NET
: standard way, then just "happily" let him go ahead (and do all the dirty
: work) since he's your buddy.
: tell boss this is such a great chance to improve the legacy system.
:
: heart
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 please don't give me a transgender surgery...
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: en, very zhixin.
: you should have a column on a newspaper or something
:
: NET
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 22 hehe, just kidding.
any advice for my original post?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: please don't give me a transgender surgery...
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 23 JRun was never popular, but you can always pick up Tomcat or JBoss as your
free JSP container. If cost's an issue, .net wasn't really the direction
you looked at.
forms
't
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, you didn't know the exact situation.
: our jrun server license was about the expire and we had a lot of small forms
: in jsp. I had to convert them to .NET before the license expired. I didn't
: have enough time to re-create the forms in webform.
: for the new project, we all use web forms ah.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 ask for his explanation, he may have some reasons you don't know/understand;
be open minded;
at the proper time, tell him how you solved similar issues before with what
design, what your normal approach is, ... discuss with him and find
agreements on general structure, convention, etc. seek for his opinions more
in ways like "how do you feel if we use XXX here?...", "are you familiar
with YYY control?"... "i heard using ZZZ is the new trend, should we try try
?", "my concern is if we XX in this
【在 D******y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, just kidding.
: any advice for my original post?
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 25 boss doesn't like java. that is why he decided not to renew the license.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: JRun was never popular, but you can always pick up Tomcat or JBoss as your
: free JSP container. If cost's an issue, .net wasn't really the direction
: you looked at.
:
: forms
: 't
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D******y
发帖数: 3780 | 26 thanks fryking. will try this from now on.
understand;
what
more
try
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: ask for his explanation, he may have some reasons you don't know/understand;
: be open minded;
: at the proper time, tell him how you solved similar issues before with what
: design, what your normal approach is, ... discuss with him and find
: agreements on general structure, convention, etc. seek for his opinions more
: in ways like "how do you feel if we use XXX here?...", "are you familiar
: with YYY control?"... "i heard using ZZZ is the new trend, should we try try
: ?", "my concern is if we XX in this
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