AR 发帖数: 436 | 1 We were not rushing. Actually, we were organized so well and moved on
so smoothly as it we were in the same guild and had fighted hundreds of
battles. If you consider helping the warriors in the range of an
elementalist or a ranger is 'rush', then there would be no meaning to
them there. Sometime you just heal and keep busy, if they were good,
they would do their job. if not, just find other team.
happened.
want. | st 发帖数: 1685 | 2 fight 8 minotaurs at the same times means RUSHING, period. you can go slow
most of the time, but if you lure too many, that means you didnt know how
to play that part and rushed.
this is the worst thing that happens in mission. everybody knows how to
slash and heal.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : We were not rushing. Actually, we were organized so well and moved on : so smoothly as it we were in the same guild and had fighted hundreds of : battles. If you consider helping the warriors in the range of an : elementalist or a ranger is 'rush', then there would be no meaning to : them there. Sometime you just heal and keep busy, if they were good, : they would do their job. if not, just find other team. : : happened. : want.
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 3 Oh well. I don't usually look at a guide or whatever to play a game and I
don't mind failing to learn a mission or whatever. Sometime you just
can't not predict for the new mission, because you don't know the
mobs' patrolling pattern before you actually have played it and
also even you know it is changing. You just can't always wait there
pull every enemy.
That by far not the worst thing that happens in the mission. Everybody
knows how slash and heal, but identifying the most important threat to
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : fight 8 minotaurs at the same times means RUSHING, period. you can go slow : most of the time, but if you lure too many, that means you didnt know how : to play that part and rushed. : this is the worst thing that happens in mission. everybody knows how to : slash and heal.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 4
that's the time to listen for what other people say and follow. :D
but I've done the elona reach with hench for the left side to steal skills
for more than a few times, each time I can safely avoid minotaur large group
and kill them all with my hench.
the MOST IMPORTANT thing is NOT TO RUSH, the ONLY IMPORTANT THING, PERIOD.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : Oh well. I don't usually look at a guide or whatever to play a game and I : don't mind failing to learn a mission or whatever. Sometime you just : can't not predict for the new mission, because you don't know the : mobs' patrolling pattern before you actually have played it and : also even you know it is changing. You just can't always wait there : pull every enemy. : That by far not the worst thing that happens in the mission. Everybody : knows how slash and heal, but identifying the most important threat to
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 5
I know not to rush. but just don't saying any playing style other than yours
is rushing. period.
slow
how
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : : that's the time to listen for what other people say and follow. :D : but I've done the elona reach with hench for the left side to steal skills : for more than a few times, each time I can safely avoid minotaur large group : and kill them all with my hench. : the MOST IMPORTANT thing is NOT TO RUSH, the ONLY IMPORTANT THING, PERIOD.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 6 I never say "any playing style other than yours is rushing", fighting 8
minotaurs is, period.
leaving team in the middle is very rude, even if some one said something
against you, he might have said that for a reason, a good one.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : : I know not to rush. but just don't saying any playing style other than yours : is rushing. period. : slow : how
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 7 There is 'randomness' in the game. If everything is arranged, that you
can never come into some challenging situations, then this game sucks.
And your second paragraph was totally off-topic. I just be rude to someone
that is rude. period. It might be rough for other people in the team, I owe
a sorry to them. But to those rude ppl without a clue how to respect someboby
that is trying to help, go hell. period.
skills
group
PERIOD.
yours
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : I never say "any playing style other than yours is rushing", fighting 8 : minotaurs is, period. : leaving team in the middle is very rude, even if some one said something : against you, he might have said that for a reason, a good one.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 8
I told you I've played that place for more than a few times, yes, there's
randomness, the minotaurs will move, some time some of them stand still,
BUT, as long as you dont RUSH and observer the pattern, get one to pull,
it's VERY VERY EASY to kill them in 3-4 groups, actually it's faster than
fighting against 8 of them.
you dont seem to be the HELPING TYPE, period.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : There is 'randomness' in the game. If everything is arranged, that you : can never come into some challenging situations, then this game sucks. : And your second paragraph was totally off-topic. I just be rude to someone : that is rude. period. It might be rough for other people in the team, I owe : a sorry to them. But to those rude ppl without a clue how to respect someboby : that is trying to help, go hell. period. : : skills : group : PERIOD.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 9 RUSH is very damaging to the whole team, that type is the least people want.
RUSH is actually being RUDE. leave team after been criticized for that, is
RUDER. without realizing that, well, sorry to say this, dont want to waste
my time in a team with such people.
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : : I told you I've played that place for more than a few times, yes, there's : randomness, the minotaurs will move, some time some of them stand still, : BUT, as long as you dont RUSH and observer the pattern, get one to pull, : it's VERY VERY EASY to kill them in 3-4 groups, actually it's faster than : fighting against 8 of them. : you dont seem to be the HELPING TYPE, period.
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 10 Oh well, you're successfully convinced yourself that I was a rushing ppl.
That's fine with me, although the truth was I was just standing
there and federo suddenly went with a hot-tempter personal attack
in front of all ppl. If you want to leave, fine too. I think there
are little things that we have in common. And that is required for
teamplay. GL elsewhere.
someone
owe
someboby
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : RUSH is very damaging to the whole team, that type is the least people want. : RUSH is actually being RUDE. leave team after been criticized for that, is : RUDER. without realizing that, well, sorry to say this, dont want to waste : my time in a team with such people.
| | | st 发帖数: 1685 | 11 dont need to convince. RUDE people are usually the type who rush.
we did the mission successfully without you, that's for returning the favor
of Arthur. after you left, we had good luck and I never expect GL with you
in team any way.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : Oh well, you're successfully convinced yourself that I was a rushing ppl. : That's fine with me, although the truth was I was just standing : there and federo suddenly went with a hot-tempter personal attack : in front of all ppl. If you want to leave, fine too. I think there : are little things that we have in common. And that is required for : teamplay. GL elsewhere. : : someone : owe : someboby
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 12 well, it is what it is. Like I said I was standing there and
then a personal attack came with nowhere from fedoro. Oh yeah,
I was sure you guys could finish the mission.
want.
is
waste
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : dont need to convince. RUDE people are usually the type who rush. : we did the mission successfully without you, that's for returning the favor : of Arthur. after you left, we had good luck and I never expect GL with you : in team any way.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 13 well, I dont see him attacking other people in the whole mission, why only
you? maybe you were not rushing. but you just left game like that, well, that's
enough for me NOT to want to play with you.
I've taken PAs from some suckers befoer, but I dont punish the whole team
for that sake, I just dont heal him and I even revive him a few times. :D
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : well, it is what it is. Like I said I was standing there and : then a personal attack came with nowhere from fedoro. Oh yeah, : I was sure you guys could finish the mission. : : want. : is : waste
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 14
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~~~~~~
I have no clue just as you do.
Oh yeah, enough is enough. Like I said I owe a sorry to whom I left with.
favor
you
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : well, I dont see him attacking other people in the whole mission, why only : you? maybe you were not rushing. but you just left game like that, well, that's : enough for me NOT to want to play with you. : I've taken PAs from some suckers befoer, but I dont punish the whole team : for that sake, I just dont heal him and I even revive him a few times. :D
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 15 btw, there's definitely a way to avoid fighting 8 minotaurs at the same
time. some time it's harder to avoid that with human group, as people always
say, desert missions are moron traps, some people just have to rush. so
when you fought 8 minotaurs, it might not be you that lured all of them.
but, I can show you how to avoid them with hench, 100% sure.
I think you did something, left behind, got some enemies lured, not 100% sure
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : : ~~~~~~~~ : ~~~~~~ : I have no clue just as you do. : Oh yeah, enough is enough. Like I said I owe a sorry to whom I left with. : favor : you
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 16 Winning 8 minotaurs in a fight or luring every one of them out and killing
them one by one doesn't make big difference for me, a win is a win.
It is just ppl's style. My basic point was even it would be my teammate's
fault, I just wouldn't confront him. I prolly would be unhappy, but not
as much as when confronted with some personal remarks. Because it's a team
to just have fun nothing more. When it fails, just let's give it a shot
one more time, if everybody would enjoy playing with each other.
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : btw, there's definitely a way to avoid fighting 8 minotaurs at the same : time. some time it's harder to avoid that with human group, as people always : say, desert missions are moron traps, some people just have to rush. so : when you fought 8 minotaurs, it might not be you that lured all of them. : but, I can show you how to avoid them with hench, 100% sure. : : I think you did something, left behind, got some enemies lured, not 100% sure
| c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 17 ... dear monk and elementalist pls don't fight...
if warrior has some skill like "taunt" in WoW, maybe the team is
easier to organize...
i got very sad experience with random team... like monk leading run
and rushing... elementailst just in dating with rangers and i got
left behind with tons of mobs... At least this can not happen in
an all high level team... otherwise they can not go this far
just enjoy the game and the style... i guess it is not that indispensible
to keep high success rate in
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : Winning 8 minotaurs in a fight or luring every one of them out and killing : them one by one doesn't make big difference for me, a win is a win. : It is just ppl's style. My basic point was even it would be my teammate's : fault, I just wouldn't confront him. I prolly would be unhappy, but not : as much as when confronted with some personal remarks. Because it's a team : to just have fun nothing more. When it fails, just let's give it a shot : one more time, if everybody would enjoy playing with each other.
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 18 Yeah, we have stopped fighting already. lol
always
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】 : ... dear monk and elementalist pls don't fight... : if warrior has some skill like "taunt" in WoW, maybe the team is : easier to organize... : i got very sad experience with random team... like monk leading run : and rushing... elementailst just in dating with rangers and i got : left behind with tons of mobs... At least this can not happen in : an all high level team... otherwise they can not go this far : just enjoy the game and the style... i guess it is not that indispensible : to keep high success rate in
| c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 19 yeah... i guess it was frustrated last time you accompany my
cute Fiona to that place... you died in tons of lv5-8 scorpions...
with your powerful lv19 mage.. :P
then i got an idea... too many ants will kill elephant ;)
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : Yeah, we have stopped fighting already. lol : : always
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 20
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I have experienced this also. sometime I tried multiple times and
finally got a good team. Then I would be so happy to say that "omg,
I finally met a team I wanted". I usually would try to invite co-opperative
ppl to our guild but most of them are with capes already.
always
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】 : ... dear monk and elementalist pls don't fight... : if warrior has some skill like "taunt" in WoW, maybe the team is : easier to organize... : i got very sad experience with random team... like monk leading run : and rushing... elementailst just in dating with rangers and i got : left behind with tons of mobs... At least this can not happen in : an all high level team... otherwise they can not go this far : just enjoy the game and the style... i guess it is not that indispensible : to keep high success rate in
| | | AR 发帖数: 436 | 21 LOL. that was not frustrated. that just put me in embrassment. :-|
indispensible
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】 : yeah... i guess it was frustrated last time you accompany my : cute Fiona to that place... you died in tons of lv5-8 scorpions... : with your powerful lv19 mage.. :P : then i got an idea... too many ants will kill elephant ;)
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 22
luring a huge group might cause the group to be eliminated, cause the mission
to fail, or some people got killed and take penalty. wasting other people's
time is very RUDE.
well, not passing the same mission again and again is not fun.
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : Winning 8 minotaurs in a fight or luring every one of them out and killing : them one by one doesn't make big difference for me, a win is a win. : It is just ppl's style. My basic point was even it would be my teammate's : fault, I just wouldn't confront him. I prolly would be unhappy, but not : as much as when confronted with some personal remarks. Because it's a team : to just have fun nothing more. When it fails, just let's give it a shot : one more time, if everybody would enjoy playing with each other.
| c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 23
be more patient, more torlerate, more fun :)
don't mind to do it again and again, when feel bored, i will quit and
play the 2nd day. we are not hardcore player or game tester or addictor
just enjoy every minutes wasted in game ;)
good luck :)
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : : luring a huge group might cause the group to be eliminated, cause the mission : to fail, or some people got killed and take penalty. wasting other people's : time is very RUDE. : well, not passing the same mission again and again is not fun.
| AR 发帖数: 436 | 24 But it's a crude requirement for not making any errors.
I believe no one is trying to mass up the team's
game, guild-wise. You must admit that everybody's experience
and skill lvl are different, let along their playstyles.
ppl have different sense for 'danger'. Unless there're ppl
deliberately doing something harmful to the team,
it's should be somewhat tolorated. Sure this can be
negotiated and agreed upon different missions.
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : : luring a huge group might cause the group to be eliminated, cause the mission : to fail, or some people got killed and take penalty. wasting other people's : time is very RUDE. : well, not passing the same mission again and again is not fun.
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 25 you should ask for his apology first, if no apology, state that you are leaving
first, then leave.
I've seen many ppl just for aggro, rush into enemies and ruine the mission,
claim it's "more fun". :(
【在 AR 的大作中提到】 : But it's a crude requirement for not making any errors. : I believe no one is trying to mass up the team's : game, guild-wise. You must admit that everybody's experience : and skill lvl are different, let along their playstyles. : ppl have different sense for 'danger'. Unless there're ppl : deliberately doing something harmful to the team, : it's should be somewhat tolorated. Sure this can be : negotiated and agreed upon different missions.
| c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 26 hummmmmmm... don't refer the phrase i just used "more fun" at this
critical situation ba... feel freeze :P
btw... just passed elona reach with random group and only 1 monk...
very very dangerous... i died for protecting the carrier...
but finally ppl send the crystal to the ghost :)
wow :)
dropped a gold staff, energy+10 dmg 11-22 for monk divine...
but it is still not mine!!! :(
【在 st 的大作中提到】 : you should ask for his apology first, if no apology, state that you are leaving : first, then leave. : I've seen many ppl just for aggro, rush into enemies and ruine the mission, : claim it's "more fun". :(
| st 发帖数: 1685 | 27 two hand staff? not that great, I can get one from a collector, I think.
will try that later.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】 : hummmmmmm... don't refer the phrase i just used "more fun" at this : critical situation ba... feel freeze :P : btw... just passed elona reach with random group and only 1 monk... : very very dangerous... i died for protecting the carrier... : but finally ppl send the crystal to the ghost :) : wow :) : dropped a gold staff, energy+10 dmg 11-22 for monk divine... : but it is still not mine!!! :(
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