z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 1 精彩论述,不容错过。
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/08/evangelical_megachurch_begins_c
Evangelical megachurch begins closing branches after pastor calls women “
penis homes”
Washington-based Mars Hill Church will close 15 branches following
controversy over founder Mark Driscoll
TOPICS: MARK DRISCOLL, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY, MARS HILL CHURCH,
MEGACHURCH, SEXISM, HOMOPHOBIA, ANTI-LGBT BIGOTS, MISOGYNY, PATRIARCHY, LIFE
Evangelical megachurch begins closing branches after pastor calls women "
penis homes"
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The Washington-based evangelical megachurch Mars Hill is shutting (some of)
its doors. Following controversy over founder Mark Driscoll’s well-
documented homophobic and sexist remarks, church officials announced over
the weekend that they would be closing several of Mars Hills 15 Pacific
Northwest branches, citing financial difficulties caused by “negative media
attention.” Several staff and clergy members have also been laid off. At
the end of last month, Driscoll himself announced that he would be taking a
six-week-long leave of absence.
According to Pastor Mark Dunford, who was recently laid off from Mars Hill’
s Portland branch, his dismissal comes in the wake of calls for Driscoll’s
resignation, as well as Dunford’s denouncement of the founder for
instilling a “lack of transparency” and “culture of fear” within the
church ranks. A recent New York Times profile of Driscoll also reports
accusations of “plagiarizing, of inappropriately using church funds and of
consolidating power to such a degree that it has become difficult for anyone
to challenge or even question him.”
For some time the tide has been turning against Driscoll, who has made a
spectacle of himself over the years with his anti-LGBT, anti-woman remarks,
many of which he has espoused as key elements of his theology. Preaching
theological “complementarianism,” in which women are considered men’s
followers and subordinates, Driscoll has expressed a belief that women
should always be submissive. According to one report, the pastor once
instructed a female congregant to get on her knees and apologize to her
husband for failing to bend to his will, then give him a blow job.
The advice fits in with Driscoll’s long-apparent, disturbing view of women,
examples of which Wenatchee the Hatchet unearthed and posted last month. In
a 2001 blog post under the pen name William Wallace II, Driscoll blatantly
asserts his patriarchal understanding of women’s role in the world,
essentially calling them “penis homes”:
The first thing to know about your penis is, that despite the way it may
seem, it is not your penis. Ultimately, God created you and it is his penis.
You are simply borrowing it for a while.
While His penis is onLOAN you must admit that it is sort of just hanging out
there very lonely as if it needed a home, sort of like a man wondering the
streets looking for a house to live in. Knowing that His penis would need a
home, God created a woman to be your wife and when you marry her and look
down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes
a very nice home.
Oh, and in case you’re a dude who finds yourself thinking that your hand or
maybe another dude would make for a good home, here’s some Driscoll-
authored homophobia to counter that thought:
Therefore, if you are single you must remember that your penis is homeless
and needs a home. But, though you may believe your hand is shaped like a
home, it is not. And, though women other than your wife may look like a home
, to rest there would be breaking into another man’s home. And, if you look
at a man it is quite obvious that what a homeless man does not need is
another man without a home.
Driscoll’s rise to fame and success at Mars Hill came as a result of such
inflammatory comments, which were once seen as revolutionary for their
boldness. But, as it seems many people are coming to realize, calling women
“penis homes” isn’t revolutionary. It’s a ludicrous articulation of
sexist, patriarchal ideals that have been dominant for centuries, and worthy
of widespread public scorn. | D****2 发帖数: 2656 | 2 Wow. What a nice bedtime story. | k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 3 Sweet dreams, Penis Home!
【在 D****2 的大作中提到】 : Wow. What a nice bedtime story.
| z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 4 摘录精彩内容:
Preaching
theological “complementarianism,” in which women are considered men’s
followers and subordinates, Driscoll has expressed a belief that women
should always be submissive. According to one report, the pastor once
instructed a female congregant to get on her knees and apologize to her
husband for failing to bend to his will, then give him a blow job. | z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 5 摘录精彩内容:
The first thing to know about your penis is, that despite the way it may
seem, it is not your penis. Ultimately, God created you and it is his penis.
You are simply borrowing it for a while.
While His penis is onLOAN you must admit that it is sort of just hanging out
there very lonely as if it needed a home, sort of like a man wondering the
streets looking for a house to live in. Knowing that His penis would need a
home, God created a woman to be your wife and when you marry her and look
down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes
a very nice home.
Oh, and in case you’re a dude who finds yourself thinking that your hand or
maybe another dude would make for a good home, here’s some Driscoll-
authored homophobia to counter that thought:
Therefore, if you are single you must remember that your penis is homeless
and needs a home. But, though you may believe your hand is shaped like a
home, it is not. And, though women other than your wife may look like a home
, to rest there would be breaking into another man’s home. And, if you look
at a man it is quite obvious that what a homeless man does not need is
another man without a home. | k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 6 I am pretty sure you are a homeless gay, hahahahah...
LIFE
【在 z********o 的大作中提到】 : 精彩论述,不容错过。 : http://www.salon.com/2014/09/08/evangelical_megachurch_begins_c : Evangelical megachurch begins closing branches after pastor calls women “ : penis homes” : Washington-based Mars Hill Church will close 15 branches following : controversy over founder Mark Driscoll : TOPICS: MARK DRISCOLL, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY, MARS HILL CHURCH, : MEGACHURCH, SEXISM, HOMOPHOBIA, ANTI-LGBT BIGOTS, MISOGYNY, PATRIARCHY, LIFE : Evangelical megachurch begins closing branches after pastor calls women " : penis homes"
| D****2 发帖数: 2656 | 7 *ROFL*
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】 : Sweet dreams, Penis Home!
| s***y 发帖数: 12419 | | d*b 发帖数: 4184 | 9 gay's home is sweet asshole.
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】 : I am pretty sure you are a homeless gay, hahahahah... : : LIFE
| g******s 发帖数: 3056 | 10 同性恋婚姻受阻,他受了刺激,定期到这里释放一下情绪,大家一定要理解他。
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】 : I am pretty sure you are a homeless gay, hahahahah... : : LIFE
| | | n*u 发帖数: 373 | 11 typical male chauvinism.
男的也可以是。 | D******r 发帖数: 5237 | | z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 13
你当基督徒一定要造谣吗?
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】 : 同性恋婚姻受阻,他受了刺激,定期到这里释放一下情绪,大家一定要理解他。
| O*******o 发帖数: 7091 | | k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 15 hehe, good one!
【在 O*******o 的大作中提到】 : 房奴感叹房价上涨
| z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 16
“Home”的价格为什么涨?这都是因为基督徒们不遵守“圣经”的教导造成的!按照基
们“全知全能”的主子的规定,女人的价格其实真的不贵!
请看旧帖:
男人女人老人小孩各值多少钱?“圣经”作了明确的规定:
利未记27:
1 耶和华对摩西说,
2 你晓谕以色列人说,人还特许的愿,被许的人要按你所估的价值归给耶和华。
3 你估定的,从二十岁到六十岁的男人,要按圣所的平,估定价银五十舍客勒。
4 若是女人,你要估定三十舍客勒。
5 若是从五岁到二十岁,男子你要估定二十舍客勒,女子估定十舍客勒。
6 若是从一月到五岁,男子你要估定五舍客勒,女子估定三舍客勒。
7 若是从六十岁以上,男人你要估定十五舍客勒,女人估定十舍客勒。
到底一个“客舍勒”价值现在的多少钱已经很难考证了。但是,相对的价格却是很清楚
的。根据“圣经”:
a)从二十岁到六十岁的女人使这个年龄段的男人的价格的60%。
b)从五岁到二十岁,这个年龄段的女人的价格是男人的一半。
c)从一月到五岁,这个年龄段的女人的价格是男性的60%。
d)六十岁以上,这个年龄段的女人是男性的价格2/3。
除了五岁到二十岁的女性是男性价格的一半之外,其余年龄段的女性的价格基本都是男
性的价格的2/3。
【在 O*******o 的大作中提到】 : 房奴感叹房价上涨
| j****i 发帖数: 68152 | | g******s 发帖数: 3056 | | a***a 发帖数: 1879 | | P**5 发帖数: 7467 | 20 外F只能算penis container,连home都不能算 | | | z********o 发帖数: 18304 | | k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 22 This minister has been expelled from the church.
You should not use an extreme individual case to generate
to the whole Christian community.
【在 z********o 的大作中提到】 : 本版的基们赞成这个牧师的这些言论吗?
| z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 23
哈哈哈!开除牧师不能说明任何问题。
关键是:牧师的言论完全符合“圣经”!
歌林多前书
11:8 起初,男人不是由女人而出。女人乃是由男人而出。
11:9 并且男人不是为女人造的。女人乃是为男人造的。
这里明确了女人是为了男人而造的,所以按照基督教的教义,女人就该是男人的附属品
。
再看:
罗马书
1:27 男人也是如此,弃了女人顺性的用处,欲火攻心,彼此贪恋,男和男行可羞耻的
事,就在自己身上受这妄为当得的报应。
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were
inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other
men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
女人“顺性”的用处到底是什么?上面引的NIV版“圣经”还不是十分清楚。再查New
King James版的“圣经”就清楚了:
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and
receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
可见,“圣经”“新约”所谓的女人“顺性”的用处就是给男人发现性欲用的。
综上所述,根据“圣经”“新约”的教导:女人是男人的附属品,并且女人的用处就是
给男人发现性欲用的。
补充:根据“圣经”“新约”的教导,女人绝对不可以管辖男人。这是显然的,因为女
人是男人的附属品。“圣经”“新约”明明白白地严正指出:
提摩太前书
2:12 我不许女人讲道,也不许她辖管男人,只要沉静。
这一句对应的英文是“I do not permit a woman ... to have authority over a man
”,也就是女人绝对不能管辖男人,不管是在工作中还是在家中!!!
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】 : This minister has been expelled from the church. : You should not use an extreme individual case to generate : to the whole Christian community.
| k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 24 the Bible is right, look at these fucking chinese women today.
【在 z********o 的大作中提到】 : : 哈哈哈!开除牧师不能说明任何问题。 : 关键是:牧师的言论完全符合“圣经”! : 歌林多前书 : 11:8 起初,男人不是由女人而出。女人乃是由男人而出。 : 11:9 并且男人不是为女人造的。女人乃是为男人造的。 : 这里明确了女人是为了男人而造的,所以按照基督教的教义,女人就该是男人的附属品 : 。 : 再看: : 罗马书
| z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 25
你承认我的论点就行。
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】 : the Bible is right, look at these fucking chinese women today.
| g******s 发帖数: 3056 | | z********o 发帖数: 18304 | 27
真不愧是基督徒。造谣撒谎如同家常便饭。
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】 : 同性恋为何如此仇视基督教呢?
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