l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 1 Dr. Rose Li
Career
Rose worked for almost 10 years at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)
for the National Institute on Aging (NIA) and the Eunice Kennedy Shriver
National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD).
She established Rose Li and Associates, Inc. in 2003 -- a professional
services company specializing in science management and research
administration. Throughout her professional career, Rose has worked with
colleagues from diverse disciplines to define the challenges or research
needs, evaluate the scientific evidence, and then help to develop sensible
solutions -- all skills that are transferable to serving as an effective
legislator. As a business owner and government contractor, Rose understands
quite well the government's effect on business owners.
http://www.voteroseli.com/
http://www.voteroseli.com/http://be...y-for-maryland-house-of-d
Disclaimer：
我没有见过她。更没有跟她谈过什么。大家有兴趣可以到她的网站上看看。无论如
何，没公民身份的赶紧申请，有公民身份的赶紧登记。：） | W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 2 那你为啥要把她贴上来？
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: Dr. Rose Li
: Career
: Rose worked for almost 10 years at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)
: for the National Institute on Aging (NIA) and the Eunice Kennedy Shriver
: National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD).
: She established Rose Li and Associates, Inc. in 2003 -- a professional
: services company specializing in science management and research
: administration. Throughout her professional career, Rose has worked with
: colleagues from diverse disciplines to define the challenges or research
: needs, evaluate the scientific evidence, and then help to develop sensible
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 3 主要是awareness
－ Rockville／Potomac／Gaithersburg这边在SCA5 petition上签名的有上百人。也许
会有朋友感兴趣。也许还有人有兴趣去接触一下。
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 那你为啥要把她贴上来？
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 4 为啥不把其它的候选人也让大家AWARE一下？也好让大家有机会全面的了解并做出对自
己最有利和符合自己政治理念的选择。
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: 主要是awareness
: － Rockville／Potomac／Gaithersburg这边在SCA5 petition上签名的有上百人。也许
: 会有朋友感兴趣。也许还有人有兴趣去接触一下。
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 5 As stated in my disclaimer, I am not involved in this. Moreover, I am not
in any position to promote her at this moment.
If people are interested, this thread is a starting point for them to dig in
.
Meanwhile, if you are interested, you can certainly approach her directly.
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 为啥不把其它的候选人也让大家AWARE一下？也好让大家有机会全面的了解并做出对自
: 己最有利和符合自己政治理念的选择。
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 6 Going back my 1st point, why is she so special to be introduced solely ? why
not anybody else?
in
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: As stated in my disclaimer, I am not involved in this. Moreover, I am not
: in any position to promote her at this moment.
: If people are interested, this thread is a starting point for them to dig in
: .
: Meanwhile, if you are interested, you can certainly approach her directly.
| s*******y
发帖数: 851 | 7 因为她是华人共和党?
why
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: Going back my 1st point, why is she so special to be introduced solely ? why
: not anybody else?
:
: in
:
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 8 The awareness of many detail related to the matter is not with me. If
people are interested, they can start to dig in.
In the past, I have also posted information on ONLY ONE student member of
board (SMOB) candidate out of many. So, I guess that I am consistent on my
end.
add one more point:
I am very interested in the answer of your other questions as well.
why
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: Going back my 1st point, why is she so special to be introduced solely ? why
: not anybody else?
:
: in
:
| c*******r
发帖数: 593 | 9 打破一党独大政治垄断是好事.
另外, 往多数党里掺砂子也是另一种办法, 参见 http://www.freestatedinos.com/ | W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 10 Introducing or Reaching out through media is a very effective way to gain
political support. Simply put one candidate here, even with no intention to
support her, it seems that you might have created certain advantage for
this
person.
my
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: The awareness of many detail related to the matter is not with me. If
: people are interested, they can start to dig in.
: In the past, I have also posted information on ONLY ONE student member of
: board (SMOB) candidate out of many. So, I guess that I am consistent on my
: end.
: add one more point:
: I am very interested in the answer of your other questions as well.
:
: why
| | | l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 11 :-)
Chinese only contributes 3-4% MoCo population. Among these Chinese, a tiny
little fraction visit here. Consequently, I am less optimistic on that any
candidate can gain noticeable/discernible advantage if there is any by
exposing himself/herself here.
My thought was that posting the information about this special candidate
here might stir up certain conversations or interests among us.
Here, conversations/interests may not even be confined within politics at
all. Example:
- who is she? where does she live?
- how is her family?
- Did she force her kids to learn Chinese in Chinese schools?
- Do her kids play piano/violin?
to
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: Introducing or Reaching out through media is a very effective way to gain
: political support. Simply put one candidate here, even with no intention to
: support her, it seems that you might have created certain advantage for
: this
: person.
:
: my
| d*****1
发帖数: 1837 | 12 不知道你想说什么？
因为她是华人，支持华人参政
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 那你为啥要把她贴上来？
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 13 I give some credit to MITBBS for the success of the recent nationwide
protest on the statement of killing Chinese aired by NBC.
tiny
any
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: :-)
: Chinese only contributes 3-4% MoCo population. Among these Chinese, a tiny
: little fraction visit here. Consequently, I am less optimistic on that any
: candidate can gain noticeable/discernible advantage if there is any by
: exposing himself/herself here.
: My thought was that posting the information about this special candidate
: here might stir up certain conversations or interests among us.
: Here, conversations/interests may not even be confined within politics at
: all. Example:
: - who is she? where does she live?
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 14 I think that issues are different in nature.
The NBC issue as well as the recent SCA5 issue are clearly defined at the
national level. The opinions within all Chinese communities are pretty much
aligned.
As for local district elections, they are entangled with many pieces without
clear boundaries.
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: I give some credit to MITBBS for the success of the recent nationwide
: protest on the statement of killing Chinese aired by NBC.
:
: tiny
: any
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 15 In terms of using MITBBS as a media, I do not see differences.
our discussion is about:
Introducing or Reaching out through media is a very effective way to gain
political support. Simply put one candidate here, even with no intention
to support her, it seems that you might have created certain advantage for
this person.The NBC protest was an example of MIBBS as media can be
effective to gain support.
I also don’t think that what you have said about Chinese only contributes 3
-4% MoCo population is applicable in this case. Li is campaigning in
District 16 (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Glen Echo, Potomac, and Rockville). I
think that Chinese population contributes much more than 3-4% in District 16.
much
without
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I think that issues are different in nature.
: The NBC issue as well as the recent SCA5 issue are clearly defined at the
: national level. The opinions within all Chinese communities are pretty much
: aligned.
: As for local district elections, they are entangled with many pieces without
: clear boundaries.
| r*******n
发帖数: 310 | 16 Nice finding. My kid knew her daughter by chance, a senior at Walter Johnson
HS. As far as I know, nice family, strong Chinese tie and education. Here
is one of her "previous" job (hopefully, she can still have time to work on
it in the future):
http://www.lieducationalfoundation.org/index.htm
Let us support her!
(how about that?)
tiny
any
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I think that issues are different in nature.
: The NBC issue as well as the recent SCA5 issue are clearly defined at the
: national level. The opinions within all Chinese communities are pretty much
: aligned.
: As for local district elections, they are entangled with many pieces without
: clear boundaries.
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 17 if she is going to fight for us, why not!
Johnson
on
【在 r*******n 的大作中提到】
: Nice finding. My kid knew her daughter by chance, a senior at Walter Johnson
: HS. As far as I know, nice family, strong Chinese tie and education. Here
: is one of her "previous" job (hopefully, she can still have time to work on
: it in the future):
: http://www.lieducationalfoundation.org/index.htm
: Let us support her!
: (how about that?)
:
: tiny
: any
| r*******n
发帖数: 310 | 18 I believe she will, but I am not sure. Need to learn more about her.
Here is a short introduction of her:
http://www.chiamonline.com/People/LP/roseli.htm
and her Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosemariali
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: if she is going to fight for us, why not!
:
: Johnson
: on
| G*******9
发帖数: 4371 | 19 谢谢分享。
Johnson
on
【在 r*******n 的大作中提到】
: Nice finding. My kid knew her daughter by chance, a senior at Walter Johnson
: HS. As far as I know, nice family, strong Chinese tie and education. Here
: is one of her "previous" job (hopefully, she can still have time to work on
: it in the future):
: http://www.lieducationalfoundation.org/index.htm
: Let us support her!
: (how about that?)
:
: tiny
: any
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 20 As long as anyone (not only just Chinese) is willing to represent us, I will
support the person. I would not support one, simply just because he or she
has a Chinese face or name.
【在 r*******n 的大作中提到】
: I believe she will, but I am not sure. Need to learn more about her.
: Here is a short introduction of her:
: http://www.chiamonline.com/People/LP/roseli.htm
: and her Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosemariali
| | | l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 21 NBC protest is an example of MITBBS's capability as a whole. However, for
the DC board, I am afraid that the effectiveness is very limited.
Right now, there is absolutely no evidence that DC board audience is capable
of bringing noticeable/discernible advantage to any candidate for the
coming 16th district election.
Again, historically, I've posted information on a RMHS IB student's SMOB
campaign. He is the only candidate that I've mentioned.
Overall, I firmly believe that it is healthy for DC board audience to know
that there are some people pursuing a different way of life by actively
participating community efforts regardless of his/her political/social-
economical opinions.
At this moment, I sense that your direction seems to bring tangible goals
beyond awareness on the DC board.
- identifying all candidates
- interviewing them / studying their positions
- collectively deciding a DC board favorite
- promoting the chosen candidate
If so, maybe, there should be a different conversation.
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: In terms of using MITBBS as a media, I do not see differences.
: our discussion is about:
: Introducing or Reaching out through media is a very effective way to gain
: political support. Simply put one candidate here, even with no intention
: to support her, it seems that you might have created certain advantage for
: this person.The NBC protest was an example of MIBBS as media can be
: effective to gain support.
: I also don’t think that what you have said about Chinese only contributes 3
: -4% MoCo population is applicable in this case. Li is campaigning in
: District 16 (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Glen Echo, Potomac, and Rockville). I
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 22 Thank you for the link.
I think that I am interested in learning more about her. If she is the
right one, there is no reason for me not to support.
Meanwhile, personally, I am afraid that there is a huge hurdle for her to
get any sizable support in this area.
Johnson
on
【在 r*******n 的大作中提到】
: Nice finding. My kid knew her daughter by chance, a senior at Walter Johnson
: HS. As far as I know, nice family, strong Chinese tie and education. Here
: is one of her "previous" job (hopefully, she can still have time to work on
: it in the future):
: http://www.lieducationalfoundation.org/index.htm
: Let us support her!
: (how about that?)
:
: tiny
: any
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 23 You missed the point.
By posting her info here, you created certain advantage for her even such
advantage might be very small. Overall this DC board is a media. If you are
here to support her, that is perfectly fine. But, like you said, you are not.
Also, if you think DC board audience is not capable of bringing noticeable/
discernible advantage to any candidate, why bother to introduce her here?
To go back to my question, I still don't see why she is so special to be
posted by you. Why only her? Why not anybody else? You said you don't know
her, you are not in any position to support her, right? I sense you are
thinking far more than what we discussed here. Again, ver simple, why her?
Why not anybody else?
If she is willing to represent us, I think everyone here at DC board should
support her, even just a few votes and may be viewed as not enough to be
noticeable/discernible advantage.
capable
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: NBC protest is an example of MITBBS's capability as a whole. However, for
: the DC board, I am afraid that the effectiveness is very limited.
: Right now, there is absolutely no evidence that DC board audience is capable
: of bringing noticeable/discernible advantage to any candidate for the
: coming 16th district election.
: Again, historically, I've posted information on a RMHS IB student's SMOB
: campaign. He is the only candidate that I've mentioned.
: Overall, I firmly believe that it is healthy for DC board audience to know
: that there are some people pursuing a different way of life by actively
: participating community efforts regardless of his/her political/social-
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 24 That is it! :-)
You are talking about something really important but is far beyond the
awareness.
The valid questions are:
Would you characterize 华府华语 inappropriate if they only interview a
subset of candidates in any election, wouldn't you? How about given
different scale/level of coverage on candidates? Before answer these
questions, probably, it is worth while checking 华府华语's coverage on the
SMOB election that I've mentioned earlier. I do not think that 华府华 gave
the same exposure to any other candidate.
I do understand your feeling 100%. There is absolutely nothing wrong for
you to raise those questions at all. However, the scope of your concerns is
far beyond my knowledge at this moment.
Maybe, we can create a dedicated thread about the coming election. How do
you think?
not.
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: You missed the point.
: By posting her info here, you created certain advantage for her even such
: advantage might be very small. Overall this DC board is a media. If you are
: here to support her, that is perfectly fine. But, like you said, you are not.
: Also, if you think DC board audience is not capable of bringing noticeable/
: discernible advantage to any candidate, why bother to introduce her here?
: To go back to my question, I still don't see why she is so special to be
: posted by you. Why only her? Why not anybody else? You said you don't know
: her, you are not in any position to support her, right? I sense you are
: thinking far more than what we discussed here. Again, ver simple, why her?
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 25 News channels tend to have their own political view, and knowing or
unknowingly favor candidates who share similar political views by giving
more media coverage. For our discussion here, we don’t know this person at
all, simply bring her to here for awareness, to me, it might not be fair for
others in the run. This is the difference.
Both you and I are interested to promote interests and protect rights of
Chinese-American ( by saying that, I meant Chinese lives here everyday), I
think it would be a good idea to open up a dedicated thread about the coming
election. Overall, we need to fight for our rights as individual and group
within current political environment. We need find and support ones who are
willing to represent us.
gave
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: That is it! :-)
: You are talking about something really important but is far beyond the
: awareness.
: The valid questions are:
: Would you characterize 华府华语 inappropriate if they only interview a
: subset of candidates in any election, wouldn't you? How about given
: different scale/level of coverage on candidates? Before answer these
: questions, probably, it is worth while checking 华府华语's coverage on the
: SMOB election that I've mentioned earlier. I do not think that 华府华 gave
: the same exposure to any other candidate.
| m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 26 中左或中右，我都可以接受。看了看老LIN给的ROSE，感觉是温和派。我觉得只要大体
方向对了，应该先集中支持一下。然后，再试图影响其政治观点。一旦支持者抱团了，
他/她会倾听支持者的声音的。
老大爷，你有空也给SCREEN一下，看看还有没有其他的。多看几个，有益无害。。。
at
for
coming
group
are
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: News channels tend to have their own political view, and knowing or
: unknowingly favor candidates who share similar political views by giving
: more media coverage. For our discussion here, we don’t know this person at
: all, simply bring her to here for awareness, to me, it might not be fair for
: others in the run. This is the difference.
: Both you and I are interested to promote interests and protect rights of
: Chinese-American ( by saying that, I meant Chinese lives here everyday), I
: think it would be a good idea to open up a dedicated thread about the coming
: election. Overall, we need to fight for our rights as individual and group
: within current political environment. We need find and support ones who are
| c*******r
发帖数: 593 | 27 39选区delegate GOP华裔candidate: Xiangfei Cheng
http://votexiangfeicheng.com/
39选区delegate GOP华裔candidate: Gloria Chang
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: 中左或中右，我都可以接受。看了看老LIN给的ROSE，感觉是温和派。我觉得只要大体
: 方向对了，应该先集中支持一下。然后，再试图影响其政治观点。一旦支持者抱团了，
: 他/她会倾听支持者的声音的。
: 老大爷，你有空也给SCREEN一下，看看还有没有其他的。多看几个，有益无害。。。
:
: at
: for
: coming
: group
: are
| m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 28 谢谢！
Xiangfei Cheng的这个主张我喜欢。HOHO。。。
---
5) – Repeal Mobile Speed and Intersection Cameras: There is a continued
need for red light cameras to catch those drivers dangerously running red
lights at intersections. However, mobile speed cameras and multi-corner
intersection cameras have turned honest citizens into “common criminals”
through a cat and mouse game facilitated by our ticket revenue hungry
elected officials. Growing vandalism against these unnecessary “safety
devices” highlights citizen anger regarding these cameras.
---
Gloria Chang 有WEBSITE吗？
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 39选区delegate GOP华裔candidate: Xiangfei Cheng
: http://votexiangfeicheng.com/
: 39选区delegate GOP华裔candidate: Gloria Chang
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 29 I think that everyone is entitled to his/her own definition of fairness. It
is fine.
However, I am deeply puzzled now when you keep focusing on "fair" in your
post. Have you thought about that imposing unspecified "fairness" on this
online forum is equivalent to silence others?
At this stage, it would be nice to let others know the standard of fairness
before applying the invisible standard to make any judgement,
- Do we allow people to mention names of only a subset of candidates in a
post? How about only one?
- Do we want to enforce that equal frequency when citing all candidates in a
post?
- Can someone talk about only 1 issue on 1 candidate in 1 post?
....
I am not sure that this is tangible. :-(
at
for
coming
group
are
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: News channels tend to have their own political view, and knowing or
: unknowingly favor candidates who share similar political views by giving
: more media coverage. For our discussion here, we don’t know this person at
: all, simply bring her to here for awareness, to me, it might not be fair for
: others in the run. This is the difference.
: Both you and I are interested to promote interests and protect rights of
: Chinese-American ( by saying that, I meant Chinese lives here everyday), I
: think it would be a good idea to open up a dedicated thread about the coming
: election. Overall, we need to fight for our rights as individual and group
: within current political environment. We need find and support ones who are
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 30 是这话
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: 中左或中右，我都可以接受。看了看老LIN给的ROSE，感觉是温和派。我觉得只要大体
: 方向对了，应该先集中支持一下。然后，再试图影响其政治观点。一旦支持者抱团了，
: 他/她会倾听支持者的声音的。
: 老大爷，你有空也给SCREEN一下，看看还有没有其他的。多看几个，有益无害。。。
:
: at
: for
: coming
: group
: are
| | | W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 31 Fairness is common sense.
Nobody is trying to stop anything here. However, this is a public discussion
forum, you post something, people may ask questions. Again and again, you
read into my question too much. My question is very simple: why is she so
special to be brought up? Why is it so hard to give a straight answer?
Let's just stop here: leave the question unanswered. Don't waste time on
this anymore.
It
fairness
a
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I think that everyone is entitled to his/her own definition of fairness. It
: is fine.
: However, I am deeply puzzled now when you keep focusing on "fair" in your
: post. Have you thought about that imposing unspecified "fairness" on this
: online forum is equivalent to silence others?
: At this stage, it would be nice to let others know the standard of fairness
: before applying the invisible standard to make any judgement,
: - Do we allow people to mention names of only a subset of candidates in a
: post? How about only one?
: - Do we want to enforce that equal frequency when citing all candidates in a
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 32 WangFatCat,
We know each other in person. However, I am totally confused now. 你的每个
回帖即使表面上是同意我的建议move on，也要带上我没回答你问题或是你觉得我的做
法不公平。这到底是怎么回事啊？
1) Fairness is NOT a common sense. If it is, there is no debate on SCA5 at
all.
2) My answers to your questions is very clear in the context of this thread.
I am not shy away from these, on court or facing any bigger audience.
Why her?
- As a resident of this area, "I am interested in learning more about her."
Why not support? Why not others?
- "The awareness of many detail related to the matter is not with me."
3) Now,
Will you make the same inquiry towards cqbplayer who posted two more
candidates in 39th district? Or is it only me?
Should I post information on other candidate here in the future when I know
more?
Why on earth do you want to censor this place? What you have done is simply
trying to scare people away from here. This is the opposite to your
statement on supporting Chinese-American people here.
I am totally speechless and confused now.
llin
a
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: Fairness is common sense.
: Nobody is trying to stop anything here. However, this is a public discussion
: forum, you post something, people may ask questions. Again and again, you
: read into my question too much. My question is very simple: why is she so
: special to be brought up? Why is it so hard to give a straight answer?
: Let's just stop here: leave the question unanswered. Don't waste time on
: this anymore.
:
: It
: fairness
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 33 LLIN,我应该叫你小林， 我和你认识这么久， 一直叫你老林以为你我同岁， 才知道你
比我小了好几岁
Let's keep working on this.
Yes, You and I know each other. We had a lot of discussion on different
issues in person. From these discussions, I know for sure that everything
you do is always well thought out, you do not things for no reason. this is
why I simply wanted to find out that why this person caught your attention
and post her info here.我和你平时交流了这末多， 我一向就很直率， 有什么就说
说什么，我想你肯定同意这一点。 我也很奇怪这一次你的每一个回帖都很denfensive
， 这是为什么呀？ 我以前有不同意的或是不满意的也是这么说的呀。
Fairness,
I believe it is a common sense. we all know what's fair, what's not. But I
respect your opinion that Fairness is NOT a common sense. Debating on SCA5,
different people view this issue from different angle, and result in
different opinions. They know what fairness is, but they want to protect
their interests. Therefore, I believe fairness a common sense
Why her?
- As a resident of this area, "I am interested in learning more about her."
Why not support? Why not others?
- "The awareness of many detail related to the matter is not with me."
说实话， 我还是没觉得你回答了我的问题， 我想问的是，你把她贴出来， 让大家知
道，这我不反对， 我想知道的是你为什么单独把她介绍给大家？ 她是有什么特出的地
方吸引了你？ 或是她有什么政见是你支持的？ 那么多候选人，你把她贴出来， 肯定
是有什么地方让你觉得感兴趣了，你才会贴。对吧？ 我就是想问问什么地方让你觉得
感兴趣了。 如果你只是随机的贴了一个， 我就觉得无形中给这个你不了解的候选人提
高了知名度。
cqbplayer posted two more candidates in 39th district? Or is it only me?
I never had any discussion with cqbplayer, I do not have any interest to
know why he posted them。（更正一下， 如果这位是那位打了好几只鹿的大牛，我
们可能见过一次）
还有呢， 你的回帖里， 不是说我有其他的目的， 要不就是说我阻止发言，我只好再不
停的重复我自己。我希望我这次回帖解释清楚了。我真的很奇怪你为什么花了这么多时
间把这么简单的一件事引申到这么复杂的程度，从我的角度， 我就是问问问题，说说
看法， 就事论事而已， 网上贴政治贴， 肯定会有争论，希望你不要TAKE PERSONAL，
别生气别上火。 这些东西再重要也没有老婆孩子热炕头重要
WANGFATCAT
at
thread.
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: WangFatCat,
: We know each other in person. However, I am totally confused now. 你的每个
: 回帖即使表面上是同意我的建议move on，也要带上我没回答你问题或是你觉得我的做
: 法不公平。这到底是怎么回事啊？
: 1) Fairness is NOT a common sense. If it is, there is no debate on SCA5 at
: all.
: 2) My answers to your questions is very clear in the context of this thread.
: I am not shy away from these, on court or facing any bigger audience.
: Why her?
: - As a resident of this area, "I am interested in learning more about her."
| q*******p
发帖数: 39 | 34 男人的更年期综合症
求同存异，要团结
一盘散沙让外人笑话 | l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 35 I have my real name and identity exposed on MITBBS and bbsmit.org on day one
. My age is 44 and I am from Beijing. I have no interest in getting under
other people's skin to scare them. Their age/income/address/occupation is
irrelevant to me. Have you noticed that I have never participated "DC
poverty line" or hardly shown up on other privacy related conversations?
We know each other in person. However, I am afraid that we do not know each
other that much as implied in you message. Otherwise, this conversation
will not happen at all.
Come back to our conversation. From my first post to this one, I have NOT
made any assertion on your personality. All my focus is on the matter
itself and the way that you are handling the matter instead of your
personality, which I do not want to make any assessment. In fact, I do not
think that I am capable of making any assessment with our very limited
communications.
Quite the opposite, you have made very strong statements on my personality
by
- second-guessing my motive;
- saying I "well thought out" on everything;
Well, I am very grateful for any person as intelligent as you thinking that
I may be special even though I know that I am not. In fact, llin is a very
impulsive person. Have you seen my posts on Yao Beina (the lady singer) on
ChineseTV board? I even wrote a sentimental essay to praise her. LOL
Good Nite.
is
denfensive
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: LLIN,我应该叫你小林， 我和你认识这么久， 一直叫你老林以为你我同岁， 才知道你
: 比我小了好几岁
: Let's keep working on this.
: Yes, You and I know each other. We had a lot of discussion on different
: issues in person. From these discussions, I know for sure that everything
: you do is always well thought out, you do not things for no reason. this is
: why I simply wanted to find out that why this person caught your attention
: and post her info here.我和你平时交流了这末多， 我一向就很直率， 有什么就说
: 说什么，我想你肯定同意这一点。 我也很奇怪这一次你的每一个回帖都很denfensive
: ， 这是为什么呀？ 我以前有不同意的或是不满意的也是这么说的呀。
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 36 Wow, you stayed this late to reply?! You are taking things on web too
seriously. But I am glad that you are now more relaxed with softer tone.
I think that I know where you come from and why reacted so strongly. You
felt that all of these discussion were attacking you. Again, like I said,
you know this as well, don’t take personal especially with so called “
political discussion”. Let me make some observations and comments here:”
I have my real name and identity exposed on MITBBS and bbsmit.org on day one
. My age is 44 and I am from Beijing. I have no interest in getting under
other people's skin to scare them. Their age/income/address/occupation is
irrelevant to me. Have you noticed that I have never participated "DC
poverty line" or hardly shown up on other privacy related conversations?
( 1st, let me call you LAO LIN again, apparently, what I recently heard
about your age was wrong. As far as noticing you participated "DC poverty
line" or hardly shown up on other privacy related conversations, yes, from
what I have seen so far, yes, it is true. On other hand, I also have
intentionally stayed away from certain people on this discussion board to
not get into type of finding age/income/address/occupation. Many people here
know that too. )
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We know each other in person. However, I am afraid that we do not know each
other that much as implied in you message. Otherwise, this conversation
will not happen at all.
( well, what I said was: “You and I know each other. We had a lot of
discussion on different issues in person”. You and I had some very lengthy
discussions in person I mean face to face and over phone. I think you would
agree. I also said that I know for sure that everything you do is always
well thought out, you do not things for no reason. You have to accept that
when interacting with people, like or not, you present certain image,
granted, it may not be the true image of you, but that is how it is. Like me
I have been very frank and a straight shooter with in our previous and
current conversation. It seems to me you took me very differently this time)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
Come back to our conversation. From my first post to this one, I have NOT
made any assertion on your personality. All my focus is on the matter
itself and the way that you are handling the matter instead of your
personality, which I do not want to make any assessment. In fact, I do not
think that I am capable of making any assessment with our very limited
communications.
(nobody is making no assumption here, I will explain more late)
Quite the opposite, you have made very strong statements on my personality
by
- second-guessing my motive;
- saying I "well thought out" on everything;
( This is where I now notice why you were so reactive for my question and
thoughts. It is not your personality at all. Let's look at it again:
second-guessing my motive;
(Let me quote: 说实话， 我还是没觉得你回答了我的问题， 我想问的是，你把她贴
出来， 让大家知
道，这我不反对， 我想知道的是你为什么单独把她介绍给大家？ 她是有什么特出的地
方吸引了你？ 或是她有什么政见是你支持的？ 那么多候选人，你把她贴出来， 肯定
是有什么地方让你觉得感兴趣了，你才会贴.
You see, my interest is on her, not you. Again, don’t take things
personally. On contrast, allow me to quote what you have said: “At this
moment, I sense that your direction seems to bring tangible goals beyond
awareness on the DC board. - identifying all candidates - interviewing them
/ studying their positions - collectively deciding a DC board favorite -
promoting the chosen candidate. To me, what I just quoted you seems fit the
accusation of second-guessing my motive better? I did not want to react to
what you were sensing, this is also why I kept bringing our discussion back
to
my question and thoughts.)
saying I "well thought out" on everything;
(this is not your personality, it is my preception how you do things, There
is a big difference here.)
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--------
Well, I am very grateful for any person as intelligent as you thinking that
I may be special even though I know that I am not. In fact, llin is a very
impulsive person. Have you seen my posts on Yao Beina (the lady singer) on
ChineseTV board? I even wrote a sentimental essay to praise her. LOL
( now I know that you are an impulsive person, this is good. And if you paid
attention to what I said in one of early post, let me quote: 如果你只是随机
的贴了一个， 我就觉得无形中给这个你不了解的候选人提高了知名度。Again, it is
about a way of doing things. I know you have said that you have been
focusing on the matter of the issue, somehow, to me, you took it very
personal. Again, don’t do that. You have interests in political issues such
as voting, education, etc, you will be questioned when you say or post
something, don't let this kind of thing gets on your nerve.
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另外，我这儿用中文问您问题，您直接就给我回英文了，不是说不能用英文，而是说，
想我这样的，一般都是不得已才嘬着牙花子写英文，费劲！还有呢，万一用英文，你误
会了我，我误会了你，这多不好。当然，要是您觉得英文更顺手儿，那也没关系。您这
儿跟写博士论文是的，说了半天我才明白。要是您觉得我的提问冒犯了您，直接一句中
文，你丫给我倒什么乱，一边儿呆着去。这不就全齐活儿了。实在不行，您给我跩一电
话。您说是不是这个理儿？
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one
under
each
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: I have my real name and identity exposed on MITBBS and bbsmit.org on day one
: . My age is 44 and I am from Beijing. I have no interest in getting under
: other people's skin to scare them. Their age/income/address/occupation is
: irrelevant to me. Have you noticed that I have never participated "DC
: poverty line" or hardly shown up on other privacy related conversations?
: We know each other in person. However, I am afraid that we do not know each
: other that much as implied in you message. Otherwise, this conversation
: will not happen at all.
: Come back to our conversation. From my first post to this one, I have NOT
: made any assertion on your personality. All my focus is on the matter
| T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 37 看两个北京人用蹩脚的英文吵架，真TM蛋碎一地。
林胖子要提谁，不提谁，是他的言论自由吧，他也没有义务解释为什么，就好像你有人
问我why do you need an AR15? 我有权懒得回答。王大爷的回帖本意是想问说“你
zkss为什么说她好呀？”而不是“你鸭怎么光提她不提别人，必有奸情！” 到后来都
是江湖误会。值得庆幸的是，两位成熟男士实在拉不下脸国骂。
这个故事告诉我们，上网一定要实名制，枪一定要禁，英文不好，一定要慎用。 | m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 38 越来越喜欢你了，虽然我还是支持禁枪。。。 HOHO。。。
老猫和老林的满篇英文，我已经跟不动了。。。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 看两个北京人用蹩脚的英文吵架，真TM蛋碎一地。
: 林胖子要提谁，不提谁，是他的言论自由吧，他也没有义务解释为什么，就好像你有人
: 问我why do you need an AR15? 我有权懒得回答。王大爷的回帖本意是想问说“你
: zkss为什么说她好呀？”而不是“你鸭怎么光提她不提别人，必有奸情！” 到后来都
: 是江湖误会。值得庆幸的是，两位成熟男士实在拉不下脸国骂。
: 这个故事告诉我们，上网一定要实名制，枪一定要禁，英文不好，一定要慎用。
| c*******r
发帖数: 593 | | T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 40 最多本版十大到头了。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 介似上10大的节奏?
| | | m*s
发帖数: 612 | 41 RE
授英文装B不好
就象在北京王副井
两洋人光吵架不动手
围观的听不懂在吵什么
这不急死吗
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: 越来越喜欢你了，虽然我还是支持禁枪。。。 HOHO。。。
: 老猫和老林的满篇英文，我已经跟不动了。。。
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 42 你丫一有机会就跳出来！ 好久没吃饭了，挑个日子吧
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 看两个北京人用蹩脚的英文吵架，真TM蛋碎一地。
: 林胖子要提谁，不提谁，是他的言论自由吧，他也没有义务解释为什么，就好像你有人
: 问我why do you need an AR15? 我有权懒得回答。王大爷的回帖本意是想问说“你
: zkss为什么说她好呀？”而不是“你鸭怎么光提她不提别人，必有奸情！” 到后来都
: 是江湖误会。值得庆幸的是，两位成熟男士实在拉不下脸国骂。
: 这个故事告诉我们，上网一定要实名制，枪一定要禁，英文不好，一定要慎用。
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 43 对英文这个问题，我已经说过了。
【在 m*s 的大作中提到】
: RE
: 授英文装B不好
: 就象在北京王副井
: 两洋人光吵架不动手
: 围观的听不懂在吵什么
: 这不急死吗
| T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 44 下礼拜二？
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 你丫一有机会就跳出来！ 好久没吃饭了，挑个日子吧
| l**n
发帖数: 7272 | 45 TMR, Thanks for coming in.
Based on his own PERSONAL doubts, WangFatCat has cast many non-positive
questions/comments on my character. My character is my bottom line and
where I stand in this community as well as in other communities.
I started to use English in order to make sure that I have an option to file
a formal complain against WangFatCat. Also, with my English messages,
people in other communities where I serve will see who I am.
So far, I hope that all of us can get together and be prudent in future.
There is no expert in politics here.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 看两个北京人用蹩脚的英文吵架，真TM蛋碎一地。
: 林胖子要提谁，不提谁，是他的言论自由吧，他也没有义务解释为什么，就好像你有人
: 问我why do you need an AR15? 我有权懒得回答。王大爷的回帖本意是想问说“你
: zkss为什么说她好呀？”而不是“你鸭怎么光提她不提别人，必有奸情！” 到后来都
: 是江湖误会。值得庆幸的是，两位成熟男士实在拉不下脸国骂。
: 这个故事告诉我们，上网一定要实名制，枪一定要禁，英文不好，一定要慎用。
| W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 46 老林，我该说的都说了，（36楼）。
加一句，你要实在要formal complaint ，我也没办法。
file
【在 l**n 的大作中提到】
: TMR, Thanks for coming in.
: Based on his own PERSONAL doubts, WangFatCat has cast many non-positive
: questions/comments on my character. My character is my bottom line and
: where I stand in this community as well as in other communities.
: I started to use English in order to make sure that I have an option to file
: a formal complain against WangFatCat. Also, with my English messages,
: people in other communities where I serve will see who I am.
: So far, I hope that all of us can get together and be prudent in future.
: There is no expert in politics here.
| T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 47 娇鸡还不出来管管你手下这俩小喽罗？都快要去砍旗了。 | g********0
发帖数: 15010 | 48 俩北京大老爷,就个Local选举问题论战300回合,在此握手言和,欢迎下周餐桌上观摩. |
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