i********r
发帖数: 139 | 1 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
难不成是饮食？环境？
Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
'This Virus Is Real'
"Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
JASON DUAINE HAHN
A Texas mother and father who "didn't trust" the COVID-19 vaccine have died
of the disease, according to multiple reports and a GoFundMe campaign set up
to support the four children they've left behind.
In July, Lawrence and Lydia Rodriquez were admitted into a University of
Texas Medical Branch hospital, where they were both diagnosed with COVID-19,
Lydia's cousin, Dottie Jones, detailed on the donation page.
Lydia was immediately placed on a ventilator while Lawrence was placed on
oxygen, Jones explained. But Lawrence's condition quickly worsened, and soon
he joined his wife on a ventilator in the ICU.
As Lydia remained in the ICU, Lawrence succumbed to complications of the
disease on Aug. 2, and 14 days later on Aug. 16, Lydia followed, the
campaign organizer wrote.
"Our hearts are broken," Jones said of Lydia's death on GoFundMe.
The couple shared four children, per the campaign and Galveston County's
Daily News: 18-year-old twins Nathan and Ethan; son Adam, 16; and daughter
Synphonia, 11.
Jones told ABC news station KTRK that Lydia's final wish before being
intubated was to get her children vaccinated against the virus.
"Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
Please make sure my children get vaccinated,'" she said. "She would be there
for her kids right now if she had been vaccinated."
RELATED: Georgia Couple Dies of COVID-19 Within Hours of Each Other, Leaving
2 Teenage Children Behind
Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
due to misinformation, Jones said.
"You try to talk to them, and she just didn't like that," Jones told KTRK. "
Didn't trust it, I guess."
"It just breaks my heart that people are believing the misinformation that's
out there," she added. "The misinformation is killing people, and we need
to get the truth out there," she told the news station.
According to a New York Times database, Texas has seen a 44 percent increase
in COVID-19 cases over the last two weeks. The state is averaging about 15,
577 cases a day.
"This is really happening in our family, and it is the true story of what
can happen. I am not trying to scare people. I just want people to
understand this virus is real, and this Delta variant is more brutal than
anything we've seen," Jones told KTRK.
"Our hearts are just broken," she added. "We hurt for the kids."
As information about the coronavirus pandemic rapidly changes, PEOPLE is
committed to providing the most recent data in our coverage. Some of the
information in this story may have changed after publication. For the latest
on COVID-19, readers are encouraged to use online resources from the CDC,
WHO and local public health departments. PEOPLE has partnered with GoFundMe
to raise money for the COVID-19 Relief Fund, a GoFundMe.org fundraiser to
support everything from frontline responders to families in need, as well as
organizations helping communities. For more information or to donate, click
here.
The best of People
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Visit PEOPLE.com | l****z
发帖数: 29846 | | g****y
发帖数: 72 | 3 有可能饮食和生活习惯造成夫妻同样肥胖，同样高风险。 | p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 4 Names and even a cousin's name are given, if it is fake, it will be found
easily.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 好像说这个故事不是真的.
| i********r
发帖数: 139 | 5 中国的老年人中肥胖的非常少，特别是南方包括武汉。
【在 g****y 的大作中提到】
: 有可能饮食和生活习惯造成夫妻同样肥胖，同样高风险。
| M******A
发帖数: 338 | 6 是同一种变异，
这个变异病毒到底是什么
没人知道
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
: 完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
: 也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
: 难不成是饮食？环境？
: Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
: 'This Virus Is Real'
: "Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
: Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
: Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
: JASON DUAINE HAHN
| d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 7 又是jb爷和贺经理得血债，这两人公开说了如果是聚聚开发得疫苗你们不要打
Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
due to misinformation, Jones said.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
: 完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
: 也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
: 难不成是饮食？环境？
: Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
: 'This Virus Is Real'
: "Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
: Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
: Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
: JASON DUAINE HAHN
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 8 How to write shameless in Chinese?
提到: 】
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 又是jb爷和贺经理得血债，这两人公开说了如果是聚聚开发得疫苗你们不要打
: Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
: due to misinformation, Jones said.
| g****y
发帖数: 72 | 9 具体病人信息很难统计公开。我们州去年疫情高峰有一个家族死了四个的，都比较胖。
也有一个50多岁男的，挺健康的，只是略有福态，在美国人中根本不算胖的很快死了。
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 中国的老年人中肥胖的非常少，特别是南方包括武汉。
| l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 10 yeah, you google that name, there are thousands of them. just like that
Swiss scientist.
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: Names and even a cousin's name are given, if it is fake, it will be found
: easily.
| r***k
发帖数: 13586 | 11 这个主要取决于他们那个病毒的变种是否厉害，比如李文亮和同科室的医生都因为新冠
去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。 | i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 12 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
【在 r***k 的大作中提到】
: 这个主要取决于他们那个病毒的变种是否厉害，比如李文亮和同科室的医生都因为新冠
: 去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 13 What's the chance that some couple's names are exactly the same as another
couple's? And then one of the cousin's?
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: yeah, you google that name, there are thousands of them. just like that
: Swiss scientist.
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 14 You are so wrong. If you look at the total case fatality rates at the end
of last spring, many European countries had more than 7-8%, a few even
higher than 10%. Here are the rates on 5/1/20 per worldometer. Spain 11.1%
(25728/232272), France 20.3% (24570/121316), Italy 13.6% (28306/207415),
and UK 17.1% (27373/160410).
【在 i*****9 的大作中提到】
: 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
:
: 冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| Y**M
发帖数: 2315 | 15 早期的高死亡率是因为轻症几乎都没有被统计在内，主要是因为技术原因，而不是
故意的。
后来武汉进行过的局部筛查，感染率是5%，按一千万人口为基数，就是50万。
这个数字是公布患病数字的10倍。
这还是已经查出来的。感染过的人，也未必一定能查出来。（不管是因为他自身的
原因，还是检查手段的局限性。）
【在 i*****9 的大作中提到】
: 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
:
: 冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| Y**M
发帖数: 2315 | 16 根据对狂犬病的研究。（我过去看过的。）
动物的免疫似乎是一个竞争过程，即“免疫的速度”和“致死的速度”相竞争。
这种情况下，低浓度的感染就很少会致死，反而可能会获得免疫。当然，这主要是
针对野生动物的，对人类很难做这种实验或观察。
反之，高浓度的感染，尤其是头面部的感染，即便注射狂犬病疫苗，也可能致死。
根据这个原理，就比较容易解释为什么医护人员会有较高的死亡率，以及夫妻一起
死。
其它情况的传染，往往是低浓度的，而这些人所受的传染，则可能是高浓度的。 | i********r
发帖数: 139 | 17 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
难不成是饮食？环境？
Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
'This Virus Is Real'
"Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
JASON DUAINE HAHN
A Texas mother and father who "didn't trust" the COVID-19 vaccine have died
of the disease, according to multiple reports and a GoFundMe campaign set up
to support the four children they've left behind.
In July, Lawrence and Lydia Rodriquez were admitted into a University of
Texas Medical Branch hospital, where they were both diagnosed with COVID-19,
Lydia's cousin, Dottie Jones, detailed on the donation page.
Lydia was immediately placed on a ventilator while Lawrence was placed on
oxygen, Jones explained. But Lawrence's condition quickly worsened, and soon
he joined his wife on a ventilator in the ICU.
As Lydia remained in the ICU, Lawrence succumbed to complications of the
disease on Aug. 2, and 14 days later on Aug. 16, Lydia followed, the
campaign organizer wrote.
"Our hearts are broken," Jones said of Lydia's death on GoFundMe.
The couple shared four children, per the campaign and Galveston County's
Daily News: 18-year-old twins Nathan and Ethan; son Adam, 16; and daughter
Synphonia, 11.
Jones told ABC news station KTRK that Lydia's final wish before being
intubated was to get her children vaccinated against the virus.
"Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
Please make sure my children get vaccinated,'" she said. "She would be there
for her kids right now if she had been vaccinated."
RELATED: Georgia Couple Dies of COVID-19 Within Hours of Each Other, Leaving
2 Teenage Children Behind
Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
due to misinformation, Jones said.
"You try to talk to them, and she just didn't like that," Jones told KTRK. "
Didn't trust it, I guess."
"It just breaks my heart that people are believing the misinformation that's
out there," she added. "The misinformation is killing people, and we need
to get the truth out there," she told the news station.
According to a New York Times database, Texas has seen a 44 percent increase
in COVID-19 cases over the last two weeks. The state is averaging about 15,
577 cases a day.
"This is really happening in our family, and it is the true story of what
can happen. I am not trying to scare people. I just want people to
understand this virus is real, and this Delta variant is more brutal than
anything we've seen," Jones told KTRK.
"Our hearts are just broken," she added. "We hurt for the kids."
As information about the coronavirus pandemic rapidly changes, PEOPLE is
committed to providing the most recent data in our coverage. Some of the
information in this story may have changed after publication. For the latest
on COVID-19, readers are encouraged to use online resources from the CDC,
WHO and local public health departments. PEOPLE has partnered with GoFundMe
to raise money for the COVID-19 Relief Fund, a GoFundMe.org fundraiser to
support everything from frontline responders to families in need, as well as
organizations helping communities. For more information or to donate, click
here.
The best of People
Get celebrity and royals news plus human interest stories delivered straight
to your in-box
Visit PEOPLE.com | l****z
发帖数: 29846 | | g****y
发帖数: 72 | 19 有可能饮食和生活习惯造成夫妻同样肥胖，同样高风险。 | p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 20 Names and even a cousin's name are given, if it is fake, it will be found
easily.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 好像说这个故事不是真的.
| i********r
发帖数: 139 | 21 中国的老年人中肥胖的非常少，特别是南方包括武汉。
【在 g****y 的大作中提到】
: 有可能饮食和生活习惯造成夫妻同样肥胖，同样高风险。
| M******A
发帖数: 338 | 22 是同一种变异，
这个变异病毒到底是什么
没人知道
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
: 完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
: 也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
: 难不成是饮食？环境？
: Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
: 'This Virus Is Real'
: "Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
: Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
: Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
: JASON DUAINE HAHN
| d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 23 又是jb爷和贺经理得血债，这两人公开说了如果是聚聚开发得疫苗你们不要打
Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
due to misinformation, Jones said.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 最早武汉也是这样，一家一家的死。现在，美国欧洲也经常听说。夫妻两一起死。
: 完全没有道理啊？两个完全不同的个体，基因、身体状况都不一样，对病毒的免疫反应
: 也不一样。为什么感染后能一起死？
: 难不成是饮食？环境？
: Texas Couple Who 'Didn't Trust' COVID Vaccine Die, Leave Behind 4 Children:
: 'This Virus Is Real'
: "Before she got intubated, one of the last things she told her sister was '
: Please make sure my children get vaccinated,' " a family member said of
: Lydia Rodriguez, who died of COVID-19 on Monday
: JASON DUAINE HAHN
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 24 How to write shameless in Chinese?
提到: 】
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 又是jb爷和贺经理得血债，这两人公开说了如果是聚聚开发得疫苗你们不要打
: Lydia and Lawrence did not get vaccinated because they distrusted vaccines
: due to misinformation, Jones said.
| g****y
发帖数: 72 | 25 具体病人信息很难统计公开。我们州去年疫情高峰有一个家族死了四个的，都比较胖。
也有一个50多岁男的，挺健康的，只是略有福态，在美国人中根本不算胖的很快死了。
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 中国的老年人中肥胖的非常少，特别是南方包括武汉。
| l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 26 yeah, you google that name, there are thousands of them. just like that
Swiss scientist.
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: Names and even a cousin's name are given, if it is fake, it will be found
: easily.
| r***k
发帖数: 13586 | 27 这个主要取决于他们那个病毒的变种是否厉害，比如李文亮和同科室的医生都因为新冠
去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。 | i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 28 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
【在 r***k 的大作中提到】
: 这个主要取决于他们那个病毒的变种是否厉害，比如李文亮和同科室的医生都因为新冠
: 去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 29 What's the chance that some couple's names are exactly the same as another
couple's? And then one of the cousin's?
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: yeah, you google that name, there are thousands of them. just like that
: Swiss scientist.
| p**********t
发帖数: 50 | 30 You are so wrong. If you look at the total case fatality rates at the end
of last spring, many European countries had more than 7-8%, a few even
higher than 10%. Here are the rates on 5/1/20 per worldometer. Spain 11.1%
(25728/232272), France 20.3% (24570/121316), Italy 13.6% (28306/207415),
and UK 17.1% (27373/160410).
【在 i*****9 的大作中提到】
: 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
:
: 冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| Y**M
发帖数: 2315 | 31 早期的高死亡率是因为轻症几乎都没有被统计在内，主要是因为技术原因，而不是
故意的。
后来武汉进行过的局部筛查，感染率是5%，按一千万人口为基数，就是50万。
这个数字是公布患病数字的10倍。
这还是已经查出来的。感染过的人，也未必一定能查出来。（不管是因为他自身的
原因，还是检查手段的局限性。）
【在 i*****9 的大作中提到】
: 早期武汉死亡率18%，出了武汉就没有死亡率超过5%的变种了。
:
: 冠去世，就是因为他们接触的那个早期的变种非常厉害。
| Y**M
发帖数: 2315 | 32 根据对狂犬病的研究。（我过去看过的。）
动物的免疫似乎是一个竞争过程，即“免疫的速度”和“致死的速度”相竞争。
这种情况下，低浓度的感染就很少会致死，反而可能会获得免疫。当然，这主要是
针对野生动物的，对人类很难做这种实验或观察。
反之，高浓度的感染，尤其是头面部的感染，即便注射狂犬病疫苗，也可能致死。
根据这个原理，就比较容易解释为什么医护人员会有较高的死亡率，以及夫妻一起
死。
其它情况的传染，往往是低浓度的，而这些人所受的传染，则可能是高浓度的。 |
|
