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USANews版 - 这个国家不是通过宪法建立的基督教国家。 (转载)
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b*********5
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren5 (吃喝), 信区: Military
标 题: 这个国家不是通过宪法建立的基督教国家。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 11 21:18:14 2020, 美东)
This nation was NOT founded via the Constitution as a Christian nation.
It is a sin to say otherwise! Furthermore, there is no correlation between
moral standards and religion. Look at the Trump movement for an example.
The Founding Fathers were mostly deists and/or Masons.
Does that make one "anti-Christian?" Of course not. It provides freedom "of"
,"for' or "from" any religion that one prefers.
This is just a bit of the thinking of the Founding Fathers.
"The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God, like another Cerberus, with one body and
three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and
thousands of martyrs".
Source: Thomas Jefferson, Works, Vol. IV, p. 360.
"The whole history of these books (i.e. the Gospels) is so defective and
doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such
tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books
relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much
doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal
evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and
that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to
separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills."
Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, January 24, 1814.
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of
the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "
Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus
Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the
great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of
its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the
Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
-Thomas Jefferson,
Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every
noble enterprise.... During almost fifteen centuries has the legal
establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More
or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and
servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
James Madison
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
James Madison
m********s
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精人连个宪法都没有读过一遍的人
到处引用这种文章
这笑死个人
天天鼓吹美帝是majority democracy
LOL
b*********5
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“I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country
telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe
in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do
they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I
am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote
on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them
every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all
Americans in the name of "conservatism.”
Barry Goldwater

【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 精人连个宪法都没有读过一遍的人
: 到处引用这种文章
: 这笑死个人
: 天天鼓吹美帝是majority democracy
: LOL

b*********5
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It leaves out the most important lesson. Private concentrations of wealth
are more dangerous than government because they are unaccountable (witness
Facebook, Twitter, and Google). We must move away of Republican celebration
of big business and learn that big means bad. This means we should apply "
big means bad" anti-trust rules to break up big business, and we should
embrace steep wealth taxes to break up private unaccountable wealth.
m********s
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立个strawman
然后攻击
尼玛谁说美帝是christian nation
没错,美帝的建国期间绝大多数是christian
但是宪法特别写政教分离,但是宗教自由。
读一遍宪法,这些都清清楚楚
a****e
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NND,厉害国根本沒宪法.,
ccp 尼马250国家.
b*********5
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There's nothing wrong with wealth.
From a purely secular, point of view, sure.
But if you want to speak to a "Christian" or "religious" perspective, then
yes, there is something wrong with wealth. Christian Fathers, Mothers and
thinkers of all types have incessantly decried the private accumulation of
excessive wealth for two thousand years.
Which is something the modern, prosperity-gospel-believing Christian Right
definitively doesn't do.
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