T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 1 cdc， whitehouse专家们可以不用再纠结要不要每人口罩。
Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks
We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and
rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute
respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of
influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols,
with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory
droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent
transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic
individuals.
http://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2 | a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 2 你贴东西之前自己读吗？呼吸道传染病人带口罩从来没有争议啊？
acute
of
aerosols,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: cdc， whitehouse专家们可以不用再纠结要不要每人口罩。
: Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks
: We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and
: rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute
: respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of
: influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols,
: with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory
: droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent
: transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic
: individuals.
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 3
当然有，WHO CDC到现在还不推荐普通人戴。
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: 你贴东西之前自己读吗？呼吸道传染病人带口罩从来没有争议啊？
:
: acute
: of
: aerosols,
| a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 4 CDC不推荐病人戴口罩？
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 当然有，WHO CDC到现在还不推荐普通人戴。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 5 cdc不推荐非病人戴，但一半以上携带者无症状，所以必须人人戴，可是cdc反对人人戴
，可以说cdc的逻辑是狗咬住自己尾巴了。
: CDC不推荐病人戴口罩？
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: CDC不推荐病人戴口罩？
| a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 6 人群里“携带者无症状”的比例是多少？
3亿人里多少是“携带者无症状”？1亿，1千万？1百万？
全民口罩一天上亿只口罩你供应？
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: cdc不推荐非病人戴，但一半以上携带者无症状，所以必须人人戴，可是cdc反对人人戴
: ，可以说cdc的逻辑是狗咬住自己尾巴了。
:
:
: CDC不推荐病人戴口罩？
:
| i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 7 这种会引起呼吸困难的病，难道不是病人带比较危险吗？
戴，可以说cdc的逻辑是狗咬住自己尾巴了。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: cdc不推荐非病人戴，但一半以上携带者无症状，所以必须人人戴，可是cdc反对人人戴
: ，可以说cdc的逻辑是狗咬住自己尾巴了。
:
:
: CDC不推荐病人戴口罩？
:
| l***x
发帖数: 1761 | 8 台湾都能生产出来。。。
：
：人群里“携带者无症状”的比例是多少？ | a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 9 30多年全球化的结果，美国生产不出来。
【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: 台湾都能生产出来。。。
:
: ：
: ：人群里“携带者无症状”的比例是多少？
| l***x
发帖数: 1761 | 10 还是政府想不想号召戴口罩，没有口罩，现在就是在号召戴围巾了不是，自己还有缝口
罩的。
然后就是3M这个事，这不是在千方百计搞他，让他在美国国内卖口罩，还跑到国外抢。
不能生产不出来，就躺倒啊。
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: 30多年全球化的结果，美国生产不出来。
| | | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 11
找件旧衣服剪开，5分钟做个口罩，油管都有指导，高层不作为，白宫发布会台上
台下都戴口罩宣传最管用。
【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: 还是政府想不想号召戴口罩，没有口罩，现在就是在号召戴围巾了不是，自己还有缝口
: 罩的。
: 然后就是3M这个事，这不是在千方百计搞他，让他在美国国内卖口罩，还跑到国外抢。
: 不能生产不出来，就躺倒啊。
| W*******n
发帖数: 4140 | 12 呵呵，听说过中国成语 自相矛盾 的故事没有？现在我是自由人了，妈的，想说什么就
说什么。听得明白吗？自相矛盾的成语怎么套在这个“专家”口罩争议上？
acute
of
aerosols,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: cdc， whitehouse专家们可以不用再纠结要不要每人口罩。
: Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks
: We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and
: rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute
: respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of
: influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols,
: with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory
: droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent
: transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic
: individuals.
| f*********1
发帖数: 2518 | 13 看看纽约的时间线，一个城市的爆发可能就取决于一个毫无防护的人，遮住口鼻，无论
用什么方式都比敞开了传染强。美国中部的大农村，好几麦开出去见不到一个人的地方
就算了，大城市全民口罩比停工停产，大量买呼吸机，大量ICU病人便宜多了。
March 1 saw the first confirmed case of COVID-19 in New York, a 39-year-old
woman health care worker who lived in Manhattan.[8] She had returned from
Iran on February 25 and had no symptoms at the time. She went into home
isolation with her husband.[9] On March 3, a second case was confirmed, a
lawyer in his 50s who lives in New Rochelle, Westchester County, immediately
north of New York City, and works in Midtown Manhattan.[10] He had traveled
to Miami in February and regularly visited Israel, but had not visited
areas known to have widespread transmission of the coronavirus. Two of his
four children had recently returned from Israel. After first feeling ill on
February 22, he was admitted to a hospital in Westchester on February 27 and
diagnosed with pneumonia, and released from isolation after testing
negative for the flu.[1][11] Instances of panic buying in New York were
reported after this case was confirmed.[12]
On March 4, the number of cases in New York increased to 11 as nine people
linked to the lawyer tested as positive, including his wife, a son, a
daughter, a neighbor, and a friend and his family.[13] On March 5, Mayor de
Blasio said that coronavirus fears should not keep New Yorkers off the
subway, riding from Fulton Street to High Street in a public press attempt
to demonstrate the subway's safety.[14] On March 6, eleven new cases were
reported bringing the state caseload to 33.[15] All the new cases were tied
to the first community transmission case, the lawyer.[16] At the end of the
day, an additional 11 new cases were reported by the governor, bringing the
total caseload to 44, with 8 of the new cases in Westchester County, and 3
in Nassau County on Long Island.[17] Also on March 6, an article appeared in
the New York Post stating that while Mayor de Blasio assigned
responsibility for the lack of N95 masks and other personal protective
equipment to the federal government, the city never ordered the supplies
until that date.[18]
Location of the New Rochelle Containment Area within Westchester County, New
York
National Guard personnel disinfect the dais of New Rochelle City Hall.
On March 7, Governor Andrew Cuomo declared a state of emergency in New York
after 89 cases had been confirmed in the state, 70 of them in Westchester
County, 12 in New York City and 7 elsewhere.[19] On March 8, the state
reported 16 new confirmed cases and a total of 106 cases statewide.[20] New
York City issued new commuter guidelines amid the current outbreak, asking
sick individuals to stay off public transit, encouraging citizens to avoid
densely packed buses, subways, or trains.[21]
On March 9, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio announced that there were 16
confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New York City.[22] On March 10, Governor
Cuomo announced a containment zone in the city of New Rochelle from March 12
to 25.[23]
On March 11, Cuomo announced that the City University of New York and State
University of New York schools would be closed for the following week, from
March 12 to 19. These college systems would move most classes to an online-
based system starting March 19 and continuing through the rest of the spring
semester. Dormitories will remain open for students "who cannot return home
for hardship reasons."[24]
On March 11, a man in Monroe County tested positive, making it the first
county in Western New York to have a COVID-19 case.[25] Officials say he
flew into JFK from Italy, traveled on a Greyhound bus from Manhattan to
Rochester, and arrived locally the morning of March 10. The bus continued on
to Buffalo and Toronto.[26] On March 12, the first two cases were confirmed
in Albany County, leading Albany mayor Kathy Sheehan to suspend the annual
St. Patrick's Day parade.[27] The same day, a staff member at Union College
tested positive for coronavirus in Schenectady County, marking the county's
first case.[28]
On March 13, Herkimer County saw its first confirmed case but declined to
disclose the patient's location. The patient later was revealed to have been
from the Mohawk/Ilion area, just south of Herkimer, the county seat.[29] On
March 14, the first two fatalities in the state occurred. An 82-year-old
woman in Brooklyn with pre-existing emphysema died in the hospital.[30] A 65
-year-old person with other significant health problems who had not
previously been tested for COVID-19 died at their home in Suffern, Rockland
County.[31] It was also announced that three people in Erie County tested
positive for COVID-19.[32]
On March 15, the third fatality in the state was announced. A 79-year-old
woman with underlying health issues, who had been admitted to a New York
City hospital, died.[33] On March 16, Clinton County reported its first case
, at CVPH Medical Center in Plattsburgh. No further information has been
revealed about the patient.[34] As of March 23, 2020, there were 125 deaths
in NYC, and 157 statewide.[35] Three of those deaths were of persons under
44 years of age.[36] The number of confirmed cases increased by 4,000
between March 22 and 23, which brought the total number of confirmed cases
statewide to nearly 21,000.[37] 12,305 of these are in NYC.[38] On March 24,
Cuomo stated that "The apex is higher than we thought and the apex is
sooner than we thought." He warned there was not enough assistance from the
federal government and that the state had 25,000 cases and at least 210
deaths.[39] 211 NYPD officers and civilian employees have tested positive
for Covid-19. In total, 2,774 NYPD employees, 7.6 percent of the workforce,
are sick.[40]
On March 26, Cuomo announced that the state would allow two patients to
share one ventilator using a technique he called "splitting" where a second
set of tubes would be added to the ventilator. COVID-19 patients need
ventilators for between 11 and 21 days, while under normal circumstances
patients usually only require them for three to four days. He also said the
state was considering converting anesthesia machines to use as ventilators.[
41] Between March 25 and March 26, there were 100 deaths statewide, with the
number of hospitalized patients increasing by 40 percent in NYC.[42]
: 人群里“携带者无症状”的比例是多少？
: 3亿人里多少是“携带者无症状”？1亿，1千万？1百万？
: 全民口罩一天上亿只口罩你供应？
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: 30多年全球化的结果，美国生产不出来。
| a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 14 那因该是de Blasio, Cuomo下令NYC或者NYS强制戴口罩，联帮政府下令了就是全国强制
带口罩了。
美国中部的大农村，好几麦开出去见不到一个人的地方
【在 f*********1 的大作中提到】
: 看看纽约的时间线，一个城市的爆发可能就取决于一个毫无防护的人，遮住口鼻，无论
: 用什么方式都比敞开了传染强。美国中部的大农村，好几麦开出去见不到一个人的地方
: 就算了，大城市全民口罩比停工停产，大量买呼吸机，大量ICU病人便宜多了。
: March 1 saw the first confirmed case of COVID-19 in New York, a 39-year-old
: woman health care worker who lived in Manhattan.[8] She had returned from
: Iran on February 25 and had no symptoms at the time. She went into home
: isolation with her husband.[9] On March 3, a second case was confirmed, a
: lawyer in his 50s who lives in New Rochelle, Westchester County, immediately
: north of New York City, and works in Midtown Manhattan.[10] He had traveled
: to Miami in February and regularly visited Israel, but had not visited
| f*********1
发帖数: 2518 | 15 当然应该下令全国强制戴口罩了！纽约就是一个反面典型，难道要把全国都闹成纽约才
能戴口罩吗？
要推翻不戴口罩的法令实际上背后牵扯出巨大的利益集团，美国这么多年以来一直强调
洗手和打流感疫苗来预防流感，效果怎么样呢？CDC官网上都贴着，病的病，死的死，
明知道流感疫苗没用还是得大力提倡，呼吸道传染病洗手有个P用！这一次只要CDC一松
口，老百姓戴上口罩，疫情好转，明年的疫苗还怎么往下推？以后百姓不再相信流感疫
苗了怎么办？这就是为什么证据这么明显了，CDC死也不松口的缘故！老百姓就别跟着
瞎起哄了，都是给人卖了还帮着数钱的主。
: 那因该是de Blasio, Cuomo下令NYC或者NYS强制戴口罩，联帮政府下令了就是全
国强制
: 带口罩了。
: 美国中部的大农村，好几麦开出去见不到一个人的地方
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: 那因该是de Blasio, Cuomo下令NYC或者NYS强制戴口罩，联帮政府下令了就是全国强制
: 带口罩了。
:
: 美国中部的大农村，好几麦开出去见不到一个人的地方
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